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  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    lol @ when programs store configuration data in the registry

    Let's send an envelope full of glitter to the guy who wrote PuTTY

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
    jungleroomxbowen
  • bowenbowen ayyyyyyyy Registered User regular
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  • bowenbowen ayyyyyyyy Registered User regular
    @Aioua

    https://github.com/KasperDeng/putty/blob/master/putty-src/windows/winstore.c

    there ya go!

    Theoretically you could make it a json file or something and store it in the directory

    actually this would be a good fork

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  • RandomHajileRandomHajile Not actually a Snatcher The New KremlinRegistered User regular
    I think the PortableApps version of PuTTY stores all of that in a text file. I may be thinking of something else, though.

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  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    lol @ when programs store configuration data in the registry

    I played a video game where character data and the entire persistent world was saved in the registry.

    Also, re. .tiff vs .tif: Neither. Fuck that format.

  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    hrm, yes, 338GB of .dmp files in the trend micro folder on this PC will definitely be why the 500GB hard drive has 200kb of free space on it.

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  • FeralFeral That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. Location: ByakkoyaRegistered User regular
    We have a Sophos web filter. It sucks. It's agent-based, there's a service on the workstation that intercepts all traffic on ports 80 and 443.

    In order to do any real troubleshooting, you have to turn diagnostic logging on. Doing so requires a regkey to be flipped and the service to be restarted.

    The logs aren't shipped anywhere, they're just stored as text files on the local filesystem. There are multiple logs, some in the user's Appdata and some in C:\Windows\Temp. There's no feature to do any kind of circular logging or set any kind of maximum log size.

    Normal web browsing activity results in about 50-ish GB of logs per day, all written to the same files. So to do anything with them, I hope you have a third-party text editor that can handle 300+ GB text files. Notepad++ doesn't cut it. We use UltraEdit.

    After of course you transfer the 300+ GB text files from the user's workstation to your local workstation.

    Which you're probably doing because you have a ticket now for zero free space on a workstation hard drive.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • FeralFeral That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. Location: ByakkoyaRegistered User regular
    Those are only a few of the many, many reasons it sucks.

    We're migrating away from it this year, thank god.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • ThawmusThawmus Registered User regular
    You had me at "web filter"

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  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    what

    no limiting to log files that can only be stored on the local machine

    this is a product people charge money for?

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
    Feral
  • RandomHajileRandomHajile Not actually a Snatcher The New KremlinRegistered User regular
    Man, that sucks. Our web filter uses a login exe and then in intercepts via a mirrored port just before the firewall. It has a SQL DB and a bunch of reports. Luckily, I don't have to run reports on it very often, and then explain why it looks like someone is surfing all day long when really they just left ESPN open all day.

  • FeralFeral That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. Location: ByakkoyaRegistered User regular
    Thawmus wrote: »
    You had me at "web filter"

    Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.

    Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Thawmus wrote: »
    You had me at "web filter"

    Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.

    Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.

    I had to do that with one of my clients until we got them fiber. I want people to be able to watch youtube videos and radio. I would be bored to tears some days without it.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Thawmus wrote: »
    You had me at "web filter"

    Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.

    Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.

    I could not disagree with this more.

    If a user is spending all day watching youtube videos or browsing facebook that's a management/HR problem, not an IT problem. You don't artificially restrict a tool because of improper use.

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  • FeralFeral That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. Location: ByakkoyaRegistered User regular
    edited March 21
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Thawmus wrote: »
    You had me at "web filter"

    Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.

    Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.

    I had to do that with one of my clients until we got them fiber. I want people to be able to watch youtube videos and radio. I would be bored to tears some days without it.

    Oh, we have fiber. We don't block streaming video or audio. We throttle them.

    We do block the high-risk stuff: porn, malware, hacking, gambling, etc.


    wunderbar wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Thawmus wrote: »
    You had me at "web filter"

    Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.

    Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.

    I could not disagree with this more.

    If a user is spending all day watching youtube videos or browsing facebook that's a management/HR problem, not an IT problem. You don't artificially restrict a tool because of improper use.

    It isn't really an HR or management issue, though. Listening to music or news while you work isn't a disciplinary problem. It's just that when multiple people are doing it (edit: and using streaming video rather than audio), that adds up to a lot of bandwidth.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
    Aioua
  • FeralFeral That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. Location: ByakkoyaRegistered User regular
    Web filters also protect against a lot honest mistakes, like somebody misspells a URL and accidentally goes to a porn site. They also block a lot of exploit kits. They're a pretty crucial layer to network security IMO, though modern application-layer firewalls include plenty of web-filtering functionality out of the box.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
    Shadowfirejungleroomx
  • GdiguyGdiguy San Diego, CARegistered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Thawmus wrote: »
    You had me at "web filter"

    Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.

    Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.

    I had to do that with one of my clients until we got them fiber. I want people to be able to watch youtube videos and radio. I would be bored to tears some days without it.

    Oh, we have fiber. We don't block streaming video or audio. We throttle them.

    We do block the high-risk stuff: porn, malware, hacking, gambling, etc.


    wunderbar wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Thawmus wrote: »
    You had me at "web filter"

    Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.

    Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.

    I could not disagree with this more.

    If a user is spending all day watching youtube videos or browsing facebook that's a management/HR problem, not an IT problem. You don't artificially restrict a tool because of improper use.

    It isn't really an HR or management issue, though. Listening to music or news while you work isn't a disciplinary problem. It's just that when multiple people are doing it (edit: and using streaming video rather than audio), that adds up to a lot of bandwidth.

    I have no idea why they're so big, either - we actually hit our monthly data cap on cell phone playing some 'white noise' youtube videos for our newborns in the hospital for 3 days, somehow they used like 8 gb of data from maybe 10 hours of basically audio

  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Thawmus wrote: »
    You had me at "web filter"

    Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.

    Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.

    I had to do that with one of my clients until we got them fiber. I want people to be able to watch youtube videos and radio. I would be bored to tears some days without it.

    Oh, we have fiber. We don't block streaming video or audio. We throttle them.

    We do block the high-risk stuff: porn, malware, hacking, gambling, etc.


    wunderbar wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Thawmus wrote: »
    You had me at "web filter"

    Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.

    Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.

    I could not disagree with this more.

    If a user is spending all day watching youtube videos or browsing facebook that's a management/HR problem, not an IT problem. You don't artificially restrict a tool because of improper use.

    It isn't really an HR or management issue, though. Listening to music or news while you work isn't a disciplinary problem. It's just that when multiple people are doing it (edit: and using streaming video rather than audio), that adds up to a lot of bandwidth.

    Sure it is. you just write in that people can't do that on a work machine, and enforce it if it becomes a problem. Then it's an HR issue. We tell our users that they can use their phones to stream all they want. Our wifi is on a separate physical connection from our network, so if we have 50 people streaming spotify on their phones killing the wifi that doesn't impact people's ability to work so we don't care.

    I mean, yes, we block illegal things, and things that are an absolute no like porn, but where i work the people are treated like adults and are trusted to actually do their jobs and not screw around on the internet all day. If they're not capable of that it isn't IT's fault.

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    EntaruThawmus
  • RandomHajileRandomHajile Not actually a Snatcher The New KremlinRegistered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Thawmus wrote: »
    You had me at "web filter"

    Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.

    Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.

    I had to do that with one of my clients until we got them fiber. I want people to be able to watch youtube videos and radio. I would be bored to tears some days without it.

    Oh, we have fiber. We don't block streaming video or audio. We throttle them.

    We do block the high-risk stuff: porn, malware, hacking, gambling, etc.


    wunderbar wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Thawmus wrote: »
    You had me at "web filter"

    Having a web filter (or at least a firewall that can do category-based URL filtering & throttling) is super important IMO.

    Unless you like having 50% or more of your bandwidth eaten up by people using YouTube as their personal office radio station.

    I could not disagree with this more.

    If a user is spending all day watching youtube videos or browsing facebook that's a management/HR problem, not an IT problem. You don't artificially restrict a tool because of improper use.

    It isn't really an HR or management issue, though. Listening to music or news while you work isn't a disciplinary problem. It's just that when multiple people are doing it (edit: and using streaming video rather than audio), that adds up to a lot of bandwidth.

    Sure it is. you just write in that people can't do that on a work machine, and enforce it if it becomes a problem. Then it's an HR issue. We tell our users that they can use their phones to stream all they want. Our wifi is on a separate physical connection from our network, so if we have 50 people streaming spotify on their phones killing the wifi that doesn't impact people's ability to work so we don't care.

    I mean, yes, we block illegal things, and things that are an absolute no like porn, but where i work the people are treated like adults and are trusted to actually do their jobs and not screw around on the internet all day. If they're not capable of that it isn't IT's fault.
    Our web filter is pretty open, with the caveat that it can be an issue between you and your supervisor. I mean, look, there's literally nothing stopping someone from bringing in an iPad or a portable DVD player or a magazine or a stack of Polaroids or a pen and paper or whatever. Goofing off is goofing off.

    wunderbarThawmusFeral
  • RandomHajileRandomHajile Not actually a Snatcher The New KremlinRegistered User regular
    ...he says, while posting on forums at work.

    EntaruThawmusThat_Guyjungleroomx
  • CogCog Registered User regular
    Guess who's ass deep in Backup Exec problems today??

    jungleroomx
  • InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    I've been away from sys admin type duties (mostly) for years now.

    Still feel good about not having to deal with Backup Exec any longer.

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  • bowenbowen ayyyyyyyy Registered User regular
    there needs to be better backup software tbh

    Warning: I am a programmer/sysop. IANAL/IANAD, seek actual advice from certified people in their respective fields if you are actually in need of it.
    Entaru
  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    there needs to be better backup software tbh

    I had brief experience with Vaeem before I left my last job, I found it to be pretty ok.

    I'm back to backup exec now though and every time it breaks I want to kick a puppy. I have to babysit the damned thing nearly every day. Seems every time I leave it alone for more than a couple days the backups stop running for some reason.

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  • CogCog Registered User regular
    BE 2010 too. Come on people. You're better than that.

  • CogCog Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    there needs to be better backup software tbh

    I'd rather they just fucking got Mozy or Carbonite.

  • bowenbowen ayyyyyyyy Registered User regular
    Carbonite is fine for remote backups. It annoys me that that's all we have here for backups, but I just don't have the time to set up and babysit shit.

    Warning: I am a programmer/sysop. IANAL/IANAD, seek actual advice from certified people in their respective fields if you are actually in need of it.
    EntaruFeral
  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    my ideal backup solution is both file level and then vhd level backups to disk, and then push an offsite copy on a schedule to something like azure or AWS

    I had something close to that very briefly with Vaeem and a storage array. a 20TB array for disk backups, and then we made a tape copy of a full backup once a week that went offsite. I wasn't there long enough to know how long but it was estimated that 20TB would have held about 6 months worth of backups, and we did still have the tape copy if the shit hit the fan.

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  • EntaruEntaru Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Carbonite is fine for remote backups. It annoys me that that's all we have here for backups, but I just don't have the time to set up and babysit shit.

    I did the same. I have remote and a raid for hardware failure.

    Nothing local and it bothers me but I also can't clone myself so it is what it is.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
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  • CogCog Registered User regular
    edited March 21
    Check out what we found in our warehouse today

    EVCAgJD.jpg

    Fucking thing works and everything.

    Cog on
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  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    dang that thing is in good shape, too
    plastic still beige instead of yellow!

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
    bowenjungleroomxTheRoadVirusShadowfireAuralynxOghulk
  • bowenbowen ayyyyyyyy Registered User regular
    that thing would probably sell for a few grand

    Warning: I am a programmer/sysop. IANAL/IANAD, seek actual advice from certified people in their respective fields if you are actually in need of it.
  • bowenbowen ayyyyyyyy Registered User regular
    I vastly overestimated that I guess, looks like it sells for $200-300 on ebay.

    Warning: I am a programmer/sysop. IANAL/IANAD, seek actual advice from certified people in their respective fields if you are actually in need of it.
  • SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Check out what we found in our warehouse today

    EVCAgJD.jpg

    Fucking thing works and everything.

    Is that part of a plumbus in the lower left corner above the keyboard?

  • CogCog Registered User regular
    SeñorAmor wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    Check out what we found in our warehouse today

    EVCAgJD.jpg

    Fucking thing works and everything.

    Is that part of a plumbus in the lower left corner above the keyboard?

    I GIS'd plumbus.

    I have questions.

  • jungleroomxjungleroomx Patently RidiculousRegistered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    SeñorAmor wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    Check out what we found in our warehouse today

    EVCAgJD.jpg

    Fucking thing works and everything.

    Is that part of a plumbus in the lower left corner above the keyboard?

    I GIS'd plumbus.

    I have questions.

    Plumb bob.

    Bama wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    complacency sucks.
    It's not so bad once you get used to it.
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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx Patently RidiculousRegistered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    BE 2010 too. Come on people. You're better than that.

    *raises hand*

    Been that way since DST.

    I've had to rebuild about 10 jobs because of that shiz.

    Bama wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    complacency sucks.
    It's not so bad once you get used to it.
  • FeralFeral That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. Location: ByakkoyaRegistered User regular
    Ewwww backup exec. :P

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
    bowen
  • donavannjdonavannj Registered User regular
    There are better solutions than Backup Exec. Most of them aren't cheaper, though. We're moving to some Rapid Recovery software with a dedicated server at each site because it's so much more stable and capable than our current solution, but its cost is a few arms and legs.

  • bowenbowen ayyyyyyyy Registered User regular
    I'm trying to figure out what makes backup exec so great.

    It just like

    makes backups on a schedule and dumps them into media/directories, right?

    Warning: I am a programmer/sysop. IANAL/IANAD, seek actual advice from certified people in their respective fields if you are actually in need of it.
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