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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    I'm trying to figure out what makes backup exec so great.

    It just like

    makes backups on a schedule and dumps them into media/directories, right?

    It's cheap.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    I'm trying to figure out what makes backup exec so great.

    It just like

    makes backups on a schedule and dumps them into media/directories, right?

    It's cheap.

    is it even that cheap?

    it's like $600+ right?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    I'm trying to figure out what makes backup exec so great.

    It just like

    makes backups on a schedule and dumps them into media/directories, right?

    it's a combination of cheap, and the fact that in like 2005 it was the only/best game in town for that kind of thing, and just by sheer inertia a lot of places have stayed on it.

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Check out what we found in our warehouse today

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    Fucking thing works and everything.

    I'll bet that thing doesn't even come with install guides. That was back in the day when you had to write the program and then create your own install guide!

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    KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Code fondler Helping the 1% get richerRegistered User regular
    Like the original Cray, where the story goes that Seymour Cray toggled in the initial OS and boot loader through the front panel.

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    SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    Check out what we found in our warehouse today

    EVCAgJD.jpg

    Fucking thing works and everything.

    I'll bet that thing doesn't even come with install guides. That was back in the day when you had to write the program and then create your own install guide!

    10 GOTO COUPON

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    We put it on the bench and told the newest engineer that one of our clients brought it in and needed it running by the end of the day and it was all his, and let him freak and sputter for about a half an hour before we aborted his mounting aneurysm.

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    We put it on the bench and told the newest engineer that one of our clients brought it in and needed it running by the end of the day and it was all his, and let him freak and sputter for about a half an hour before we aborted his mounting aneurysm.

    That's the best/worst thing I've read today.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    I'm trying to figure out what makes backup exec so great.

    It just like

    makes backups on a schedule and dumps them into media/directories, right?

    it's a combination of cheap, and the fact that in like 2005 it was the only/best game in town for that kind of thing, and just by sheer inertia a lot of places have stayed on it.

    Yeah, it was best in class about 10 years ago when your only realistic options for backups were tape or hard drive.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    Aioua wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    it takes all of like

    half a second to add in another extension to a list of extensions

    see this is why you powershell everything you can
    since devs will never go back and fix even the easiest things :P

    copy *.tif *.tiff

    suck it, powershell

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Echo wrote: »
    Aioua wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    it takes all of like

    half a second to add in another extension to a list of extensions

    see this is why you powershell everything you can
    since devs will never go back and fix even the easiest things :P

    copy *.tif *.tiff

    suck it, powershell

    you just doubled everything

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    yeah but you can't look at the fileinfo object of each of those tif files in a batch script echo

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    fine

    move *.tif *.tiff

    suck it again, powershell

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    I just unboxed an HP all-in-one PC that was bent.

    Box wasn't crushed, wasn't a shipping thing.

    Fucker was just straight up not straight. The right vertical side bowed forward almost half an inch. I could pop open the optical drive and see the bend in the frame.

    This was a replacement for one they shipped us that was DoA.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    did they give you a coupon or send you a manual on how to fix it

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    twmjrtwmjr Registered User regular
    coupons only come with the servers bowen

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    "hilariously" that's one of the few batch commands you can't just drag and drop into powershell, since copy/move/ren are aliased to powershell cmdlets

    but I would probably make the whole script into a generic extension renaming script anyway, with parameters for folder, old extension, and new extension

    that way it's reusable!

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    have you considered maybe you are a failed programmer vowels

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    have you considered maybe you are a failed programmer vowels

    I mean pretty much yes.

    If my parents had understood computers better and hadn't been dealing with a messy divorce in my late teens I probably would have been properly shepherded into a CS degree and learned how to do shit, popped out of college into a cushy dev job and been making more than I am now for the last decade.

    I also probably would have ended up as an insufferable libertarian as well so I think it's a wash.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    you are basically doing programming right now

    you should look into c#

    visual studio 2017 is free man

    you'd like it

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    twmjrtwmjr Registered User regular
    vs 2017 is really free?

    man...I have absolutely 0 professional use for programming at the moment, but I always kind of miss it in the back of my head. I never got too deep in it; it was mostly my dad making me try and do something productive with all of my computer time (apparently IRC wasn't productive WHO KNEW)

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    you are basically doing programming right now

    you should look into c#

    visual studio 2017 is free man

    you'd like it

    I've done these things!

    As it gets more complicated I start losing the plot and my understanding of what I'm looking at and writing drains out of my head.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    twmjr wrote: »
    vs 2017 is really free?

    man...I have absolutely 0 professional use for programming at the moment, but I always kind of miss it in the back of my head. I never got too deep in it; it was mostly my dad making me try and do something productive with all of my computer time (apparently IRC wasn't productive WHO KNEW)

    https://www.visualstudio.com/vs/whatsnew/

    community edition! (it's the free edition of professional -- it's free for small business and personal use)

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    donavannjdonavannj Registered User regular
    wait visual studio 2017 is free? I should download that then never use it on my home PC.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    you are basically doing programming right now

    you should look into c#

    visual studio 2017 is free man

    you'd like it

    I've done these things!

    As it gets more complicated I start losing the plot and my understanding of what I'm looking at and writing drains out of my head.

    you're already doing it in power shell though!

    and we have a programming thread

    and I'm basically the resident c# guy with @echo picking it up and there's like 2-3 duders who do it professionally in chat (Reiman and dk have both dabbled in it)

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    yeah this shit's been free since the tail end of 2014 (when they started community edition), almost immediately after they dropped 2015 into the community edition. Then just a few weeks ago 2017 dropped.

    Make sure you snag the productivity power tools, you can hold control and click on variables names and it'll show you where you created them, easily the best feature of it.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    twmjrtwmjr Registered User regular
    donavannj wrote: »
    wait visual studio 2017 is free? I should download that then never use it on my home PC.

    :bro: doing this right now

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    uuuerugh

    changing career paths is also terrifying

    I know a lot of shit and have near a decade being an IT guy

    going back to noob is unappealing

    not to mention the job market doesn't seem too hot anyway

    sure lots of positions open for every company's hyper-specific role

    but seems real hard to actually land a job, going by my programmer friends

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    yeah IT is better than software right now

    I've contemplated making the switch to full on IT because it's less hassle and less frustrating

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    it's actually funny because about 5 years ago a lot of people thought that pure IT roles were going to go away becuase everything was in the cloud, but all that ended up happening was that IT actually became more needed as even if you moved everything to the cloud you still needed people to manage that.

    And really 99% of the time people ended up on hybrid solutions which are actually harder to manage than either full in house or full cloud anyway.

    Personally where i see IT going is more towards BA/project management stuff. IT will only become more integrated, not less, and those who can do more BA type work and integrate with other business units, etc, will end up being the most useful/successful long term.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Yeah Business IT is more about managing contracts and integration solutions rather than maintaining hardware.

    There will still be actual IT at the bigger companies that actually do that kind of work still, though. But a lot of it is less innovation or anything and more break/fix kind of work since there's lots of failover and redundancy. It's the job of the software to handle the issues, not the IT guy to jerry-rig something together.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    yeah IT roles will go away as soon as every vendor implements their solutions with perfect interoperability (no) or we invent hard AI (followed by the robocalypse)

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    ThawmusThawmus +Jackface Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »

    I've told all my friends that only programmers get this shit wrong, and I hope you guys don't let me down.

    Twitch: Thawmus83
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »

    listen I can't help it that vowels is pretending to be a programmer in the system admin thread!

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    It was 75 yesterday.

    Snowed at lunch today.

    55 right now.

    I dont, what

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    InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    Funny, I was at a Veeam lunch and learn today, actually. Hosted at a steakhouse, pretty swanky and good eats.

    Presentation wasn't that bad. Brought my lead dev because I was joking about now he's made it, a true professional. Getting to eat lunch on vendor dime!

    Not only did he get a free lunch but he won the door prize. I'm so proud. *sniff*

    (prize was $200 headphones not too shabby)

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    I never counted before today but it turns out I am the primary support contact for 239 users.

    I'm surprised I get as few tickets as I do.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    donavannjdonavannj Registered User regular
    How many different applications does that cover? That'd probably be an explanation for a "low" ticket count relative to your total number of users.

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