It's actually more akin to Bejeweled + Pokemon + Gambling = Your PaycheckDisclaimer: You may or may not regret spending real money on this game. You may or may not regret spending an absurd amount of real money on this game. You may or may not regret spending an embarrassing amount of real money on this game.
Hello and welcome to the Puzzle & Dragons thread. Puzzle & Dragons, or PAD for short, is a popular Match-3 mobile game with a twist for iOS and Android originating from Japan, where it is commonly referred to as Pazudora. Because of its origins it has a certain special flare common among Japanese games. It's occasionally quirky (read:strange), somewhat fanservice-y, and brutally difficult in the later game, where a lot of veterans of the thread find themselves. It's the precursor to many many
look-alike games (probably) because of its tremendous commercial success, and for good reason. The game is easily accessible to non-IAP (non In App Purchase) players, but has been monetized through Magic Stones, used to do everything from refill stamina to run more dungeons, buy continues when you die in dungeons, and pull on the Golden Dragon Rare Egg Machine (REM Gacha). Fortunately, this means it isn't supported by more intrusive ads, and surprisingly it gives away plenty of free stones per month, in addition to one for every dungeon clear, and there are tons
of dungeons. There is a North American version of the game that receives updates following their introduction in the Japanese version, but crossplay between versions (and devices) is included.So, what is PAD?
Think of Bejeweled if you could move an orb as far as five seconds could get you, and make as many combos as you can. Colored orbs cause your monsters of the same color to attack when 3+ of that color is matched, and hearts restore damage you take from monsters attacking you. Make as many combos as possible on the 30 orb board to rack up the damage, with new orbs falling in from above. That's all well and good until you start progressing and enemy monsters' defense becomes occasionally noticable, or when they gain abilities to attack you or otherwise hinder you. Oh, and don't even get me started on monster skills and team building and awakenings and plus eggs and... actually this game gets absurdly complicated for a Match 3 game. Luckily the resources below have all the answers and if you can't find it there, there's no shortage of veterans here who can answer your questions, and provide you early game newbs with absurdly powerful max-level Ultimate Evolved monsters.Reddit Beginner Guide- Golden Rules For New Players -
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- Don't roll outside of a Godfest
- Don't continue
- Don't spend stones to restore stamina
- Favorite everything you want to keep
- When in doubt, check PDX
The game is free to play, with a premium currency of magic stones. You can buy them for a dollar each in smaller packages, but they're less per stone when bought in bulk. Five stones is one pull on the Rare Egg Machine (REM), or other occasional collab machines.How long before I hit the pay wall?
Luckily, the game distributes plenty of free stones per month through in game mail, and every dungeon clear is a stone as well. I'm living proof that you don't need to pay to clear end game content, non-IAP for almost three years. However, if you're not planning to pay anything ever
, it might help to get off to a good start.Okay, so how do I get a good start?
I'm sure you noticed the fun tutorial? At the end it makes you pull the golden dragon and out pops an egg? Well here's the thing: that egg can be anything
that comes out of the Golden Dragon. You could get the most powerful monster in the game, or you could get some trash that has no purpose except to make you weep. You can also delete the application and redownload it to get another run through the tutorial and another free roll on the Golden Dragon.
Do you see where I'm going with this? Depending on your tolerance for monotony (suffering), you can run through the tutorial over and over until you start with exactly what you want (or lose your mind).What is a good starting monster, then?
If you are planning on spending money in the game, it doesn't matter as much what you start with as you can always buy more stones. If not, here are some recommendations (spoilered in case you'd rather find out for yourself):
What is the most important thing to know about this game?
If it's farmable, reroll. You can ask us about this.
If it's not a gold egg, reroll. Some gold eggs are still useless, once again, ask us.Reddit Re-Rolling Guide
According to this guide, in early game, these monsters are 4 stars or above. YMMV.
Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
In terms of pantheons, generally regarded as the best are:
If there isn't a Godfest Active *DO NOT PULL ON THE GOLDEN DRAGON*Godfest? Golden Dragon?
The Golden Dragon/Rare Egg Machine/REM/Premium Gacha is a machine that eats 5 magic stones and barfs out a monster. This can be a farmable monster or an incredibly powerful God. Remember 5 stones= 5$, so unless you are willing to donate a lot of money you probably want to maximize your chances at getting a God, since you'll get the farmable monsters with a bit of effort, but Gods are only from the Golden Dragon. Every other week there will be a "Godfest" where you have a 3x chance to hit a God when you roll, or an estimated 1 out of 3 chance. Only spend your stones to roll during Godfest. Its recommended to not roll at all until you get a good amount of box space and friends, but pulling is one of the fun parts of the game, so as long as you only pull during Godfest no one will yell at you. Probably.I'm out of Box Space!
That's not a question, but it will be a common problem. The solution is to spend magic stones on increasing your box size. This should be where all of your early stones go. Try to get up to 100 boxes at least before you spend magic stones on *ANYTHING* elseWhich Monsters are Worth Keeping?
This article is a great resource on what to do with the monsters that drop as you go along. pad.wikia.com/wiki/Valuable_MonstersHow do I keep track of all these monsters?
Setup an account on Padherder.com
. This site will keep track of what you need to evolve the monsters you get, and how much exp to get them to the next level.
If you are on Android and lazy you can use the padhereder listener app.And if I'm on iOS?
Lucky you, you get to do the physical challenge!Actually there is a way to get your data imported, but its work.How do I play with other awesome Penny Arcade People?
Add yourself to the Penny Arcade Puzzle and Dragons User Database of Wonderment and Joy
, and send friend invites to everyone on it. If people are full, then @ them in this thread and they will typically make room for a fellow forumer.How do I know how what % Life a boss has/I have?
How does skilling up a monster work?
If you feed your monster another monster with *the exact same skill name*
, you'll have a 10% chance to increase the skill level, which makes the skill charge one turn faster. During events the skillup rate is x2, so do not try to skillup outside of an event unless you hate your time/money. Occasionally there is 2.5x skillup rate. You can also raise a monster to max evo, max level, then feed it to itself. This is called the colossal waste method. There are also little guys with horns who skill up monsters.
They are hard to come by usually only found in tough dungeons, or as challenge rewards. You can also buy them in the Monster Point Shop.Does anyone know what the math is for combos vs. multi-orb matches?
Like, how much does a 2-combo multiply my attacks? How about a 4 or 5 orb match in one color? If I've got 6 orbs of one color in the grid, am I better off making a line of six or two 3-orb matches? If I've got two adjacent lines of 3 in the same color that are touching they clear as one match instead of a two combo. Does that count the same as matching six in a line?
Short Answer making combos is better than making big clumps of orbs unless Awoken skills/orb enhancers are in play.pad.wikia.com/wiki/Game_Mechanics#Damage_CalculationQuestion
Is there a list that shows the best way to approach descends? Like in order by difficulty. I really wish I could do Athena descended but I know that would be me throwing away 50 stamina.
This is a great read.http://www.reddit.com/r/PuzzleAndDragons/wiki/descendeddungeons
Obviously any list of difficulty depends on the monsters you have.
Hera is fairly unarguably the easiest, probably two heroes is next.How to beat most levels in challenge mode:
Make Ronia friends.
Get a Hera-Ur.
Use Hera-Ur as your leader, and fill up the rest of the team with fully awoken Ronias. Clear everything easily with the power of poor balancing.
Also Green/White Present Dragon and 5 Awoken Odins can clear some tricky tech dungeons.How do I beat the Hardest Evo Material Dungeons?
Tuesday - Keeper of Gold. Wait until the pal egg machine runs rare evo materail and pull him there.
Wednesday - Blue/Green Masks (aka 99 turn skill bind fun) Get an autohealer and a friend Green Odin. Fill your team with dual attribute monsters, first few waves group attack as much as possible,
mystic mask round kill the red masks first, no group attacks.
Last wave, target the blue mask, combo/heal until skill bind lets up. Poison the blue mask and gravity if you have it. When blue mask is almost dead, start lowering the green masks' life.
Thursday - Dreaming Dragonfruit - Awoken Shiva/Hera Ur red teams work great here. Alternatively, Farm up 5 of this guy
and be immune to all damage.
Friday - Funding Sky Prison ☺T╩♦•◘○♣♦☻ - There are many teams out there, all farmable monster version is ultimate zeus/ultimate zeus, Hera-Is, Poison/mystic mask/bane, Naga, something else (spread cats is good).
1st round make enough combos to kill all but one/two mythlits. If you start with no light orbs or you get too many combos, you just wasted 50 stamina! FUN!
2nd round you want to use poison to clear before the Dubs kill you. They hit very hard.
3rd round use naga, make a couple of mass attacks then kill the dubs leaving the tamadra. Let it bind you then move orbs until you get all skills up.
Round 4 35%gravity x 2 30% gravity, spread cats, delay, make as many combos as possible and hope you kill them.
This dungeon is very frustrating with any team that can't blow right through it. There are many that can now.Also since you are playing this game and are not me you probably have ronia so why not just do it the easy way!
I have too many coins, what's with these coin dungeons?
Twinlt super easy mode: lilith/echidna + enough skill awakenings to make lilith available on turn 2.
Poison turn before damage from the dublits
Echidna on the next round.
Rest of your team just needs to be able to kill the actual twins
My team: beezelbub/ronia/ronia/echidna/lilith
There are options of course
Also, I tried some more of the coin dungeons. My overall reviews:Alt Castle of Satan in the Abyss
- 1 millionShrine of Green Water
- 1 million
Challenging dungeons with quite good Exp and Coins per stamina. It also drops high level monsters that provide 10k-15k experience each. Overall a very efficient use of stamina if you have some to burn. Don't forget the free stone.
Warning - Watch out for the King Metal Dragon, he'll eat your faceTogether At Last! Evo Rush!!
- 3 million
Costs 35 stamina. Gives you a shot at a Dragon Fruit, a Dub-Mythlit, a Mystic Mask, and a Rainbow Keeper. Includes a guaranteed random Keeper. Worth doing once for the free stone, I'd avoid it otherwise.Tamadra Village
- 10 million
Awesome! Bring two poisons and you can't lose. The only downside is that at 99 stamina a run it'll almost certainly cost you a stone per try, but it's still worth it. At worst you'll get 4 Baby Tamadras a run, plus you have a shot at skillups for GrOdin and ROdin. If you run a lot of different teams and need a lot of awakenings, this is the perfect dungeon for you.This now shows up without paying for it as a time sensative dungeon.
Bonus Review: Weekend Dungeon - Legend
The individual waves of this dungeon are about as hard as the boss wave on Master difficulty. Watch out for wave 5 with the three Mystic Masks - bring poison or some massive burst to break their armor. If you don't have a Robin or Kushinada, grab a Poison Ivy while the DC Collab is still around.
Otherwise, wave 9 is fairly easy. Wave 10 is the same as the final wave of Two Heroes, so make sure you can survive a hit from Berserk and get past Highlander's armor,.
For fun, my team:
A combo tutorial for your enjoyment.
Watch at 1.5x speed!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLku-s20EBE
Thoth and Sopdet are god awful. Be aware.
Zeus Vulcan is pretty terrible too.
cantide what kinds of things are worth saving to sell for monster points?
If it's not REM, don't worry about it. If it is REM, the more stars the better: I think it's 3k for 4 stars. 5k for 5, 15k for 6. Only the stars of the initial evolution matter.
If you take a 4 star card and evolve it into a 5 star, it will still be worth only 3k.
Technically you can sell non REM monsters too, but they're worthless. Most sell for 1 point, non descend bosses like biweekly dragons sell for 5, and descend bosses sell for 10. They had an event recently where certain difficult descend bosses were worth 100 instead, but it was still a trap: 50 stamina for 100 monster points means it would take 30 runs aka 1500 stamina just to buy a Tamadra.
For price perspective, the latent Tamadras all cost between 10k and 20k, the dragon series is 300k, and they introduced a new marionette trio this week for 250k each whose gimmick is changing the enemy's color.
I need to ask a totally basic question. What do you call the awakened skills that show up around the bottom of the frame of a character's info screen? Like you have all of the awakened skills along the right of the picture but there are ones on the bottom.
Links:Dungeon Bonus TimetablePuzzledragonx Database
Best pad sitepad.wikia.comPuzzle & Dragons Global WikiMonsters Beginners Should Farm ForEfficient Power Up FusionsOfficial Facebook PagePuzzle & Dragon Simulator
Added September 4, 2013:Skill up info with chartDrop Rate info with chart+Egg Farming Info