It's just important to keep in mind that the +# notation refers to the stat modifier. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "Swords Dance". Swords Dance just so happens to be one of the most popular stat boosting moves in part due to the large number of pokemon that can learn it. Its special attack counterpart, "Nasty Plot", is significantly rarer and can only be learned by a handful of pokemon.
"Dragon Dance", another popular stat boosting move, boosts your attack and speed by +1. It's scary since when both attack and speed are boosted, you can find yourself in a position where the boosted pokemon is both capable of defeating its opponents in a single hit while also always being able to move first. It can be hard to recover from that situation if you're not prepared.
Also Z-Splash boosts attack +3! I use it on Tsareena with devastating results!
BTW, I just learned that getting a 30 or more win streak in the Battle Tree gets you a Bottle Cap if you talk to the receptionist the next day. I'm gonna try for at least 30 wins a day from now on, which so far hasn't been that hard.
It's just important to keep in mind that the +# notation refers to the stat modifier. It has nothing whatsoever to do with "Swords Dance". Swords Dance just so happens to be one of the most popular stat boosting moves in part due to the large number of pokemon that can learn it. Its special attack counterpart, "Nasty Plot", is significantly rarer and can only be learned by a handful of pokemon.
"Dragon Dance", another popular stat boosting move, boosts your attack and speed by +1. It's scary since when both attack and speed are boosted, you can find yourself in a position where the boosted pokemon is both capable of defeating its opponents in a single hit while also always being able to move first. It can be hard to recover from that situation if you're not prepared.
right, i just wasn't really clear originally as to whether that is the number of iterations of <stat booster> vs. what is actually the case (levels of boost)
Okay, game, seriously, just let me give Lillie a starter. All this stuff about how "she's not a trainer" but she'd like to be - girl, Alola literally has a designed obstacle course to ease people into being trainers, in the Island Challenge! Kukui being an unprofessional little derp kept the last of his starters, but it's not like we can't make more of them. She's all like "I wish I had pokemon of my own" and my reaction is basically "Look, do you want a Totodile to start up? Because I have Totodile eggs".
She is a pacifist so her position on battles is not very flexible.
The fact that Cosmog doesn't want to stay in the bag doesn't help her self-steem. And add all family issues on top of that.
She could use one as a pet but being the Professor's assistant gives her enough work.
Pretty sure her development throughout the game means that by the end she's very much capable to be a Trainer, mentality-wise.
I find myself agreeing with the previous posters that it would be really cool if next game had her come back with a seriously balls to the walls team. Or if we went back to Kanto as some people are implying, how cool would it be to go into the Elite Four and find Lillie as the Kanto Champion, like Iris in BW2.
I keep seeing art from the anime depicting her with an Alolan vulpix, so I'm gonna go with her being an ice trainer.
Ice is also the odd man out since it's the only pokemon type that doesn't have an npc associated with its z-crytsal.
I personally expect to see her back as soon as pokemon stars on the switch and I'm expecting a time skip like with bw/bw2. That gives time for plot stuff to happen and for something to be done with all the conspicuous empty lots scattered around Alola.
Mimikyu has been kinda disappointing in the battle thing (doubles). I saw it mentioned in other places that people were just crushing though all opposition by swords dancing a few times and then sweeping. I've found that I need to 2 hit things even after 2 x swords dance, usually because I don't have a super effective matchup. Not sure if it is basically luck with opposing teams or what
Up to like 210 on the Shiny Smeargle chain. Wanted to get shiny for my chainer before I start running for more shinys. Had one of them get moody and didnt think about it. That thing was hard to hit when I tried to swap.
Mimikyu has been kinda disappointing in the battle thing (doubles). I saw it mentioned in other places that people were just crushing though all opposition by swords dancing a few times and then sweeping. I've found that I need to 2 hit things even after 2 x swords dance, usually because I don't have a super effective matchup. Not sure if it is basically luck with opposing teams or what
I mean, it's got 90 base Attack. Even after Swords Dance, it's not gonna set the world on fire with that.
I'm not doing very good on the Battle Tree. Generally get something that stops me around battle 15 or so. This time it was a Medicham I couldn't oneshot with my starting pokemon, so it used Z-Bulk Up, and then just kinda swept through my three pokemon in one kick each.
Well, with any luck I should get some Metagrossite soon for my Metagross (I lucked into a Beldum with perfect IVs in HP/Att/Def/Speed) and I'm hoping that offensive boost will help.
Then Haba and Dexio have to enter Thunderdome for the rights to Psychic.
I do wonder where you learn the Z-dances for Ice, Psychic, Flying, and Dragon. Dragon's dance might be my favorite.
The point is that they're all Alolan residents who who can use those z-moves against you in Alola.
Sina and dexio don't use the z-moves outside of the battle tree, now that I think about it I'm not even sure if I've ever seen Sina use an ice type z-move inside of the the battle tree.
Mimikyu has been kinda disappointing in the battle thing (doubles). I saw it mentioned in other places that people were just crushing though all opposition by swords dancing a few times and then sweeping. I've found that I need to 2 hit things even after 2 x swords dance, usually because I don't have a super effective matchup. Not sure if it is basically luck with opposing teams or what
I mean, it's got 90 base Attack. Even after Swords Dance, it's not gonna set the world on fire with that.
that's kinda my confusion. i saw a lot of posts strewn throughout (not here) claiming that it was just a meatgrinder...and i assumed i was missing something because it doesnt appear to be?
Mimikyu has been kinda disappointing in the battle thing (doubles). I saw it mentioned in other places that people were just crushing though all opposition by swords dancing a few times and then sweeping. I've found that I need to 2 hit things even after 2 x swords dance, usually because I don't have a super effective matchup. Not sure if it is basically luck with opposing teams or what
I mean, it's got 90 base Attack. Even after Swords Dance, it's not gonna set the world on fire with that.
that's kinda my confusion. i saw a lot of posts strewn throughout (not here) claiming that it was just a meatgrinder...and i assumed i was missing something because it doesnt appear to be?
It can do some work with Substitute, Z-Splash/Swords Dance, STAB Shadow Sneak/Play Rough. Can also Curse and Z-Curse your health back and then Curse again (could do this with Gengar technically but he doesnt have disguise.
Mimikyu has been kinda disappointing in the battle thing (doubles). I saw it mentioned in other places that people were just crushing though all opposition by swords dancing a few times and then sweeping. I've found that I need to 2 hit things even after 2 x swords dance, usually because I don't have a super effective matchup. Not sure if it is basically luck with opposing teams or what
I mean, it's got 90 base Attack. Even after Swords Dance, it's not gonna set the world on fire with that.
that's kinda my confusion. i saw a lot of posts strewn throughout (not here) claiming that it was just a meatgrinder...and i assumed i was missing something because it doesnt appear to be?
It can do some work with Substitute, Z-Splash/Swords Dance, STAB Shadow Sneak/Play Rough. Can also Curse and Z-Curse your health back and then Curse again (could do this with Gengar technically but he doesnt have disguise.
the z-curse thing was in a tournament recently wasn't it? i didn't know wtf really was happening but i vaguely recall that occurring?
currently i have my mimikyu running:
shadow sneak
shadow claw
play rough
swords dance
the sneak and claw seem redundant at the moment, but as i mentioned overall it just doesnt seem to be powering out enough damage
Mimikyu has been kinda disappointing in the battle thing (doubles). I saw it mentioned in other places that people were just crushing though all opposition by swords dancing a few times and then sweeping. I've found that I need to 2 hit things even after 2 x swords dance, usually because I don't have a super effective matchup. Not sure if it is basically luck with opposing teams or what
I mean, it's got 90 base Attack. Even after Swords Dance, it's not gonna set the world on fire with that.
that's kinda my confusion. i saw a lot of posts strewn throughout (not here) claiming that it was just a meatgrinder...and i assumed i was missing something because it doesnt appear to be?
It can do some work with Substitute, Z-Splash/Swords Dance, STAB Shadow Sneak/Play Rough. Can also Curse and Z-Curse your health back and then Curse again (could do this with Gengar technically but he doesnt have disguise.
the z-curse thing was in a tournament recently wasn't it? i didn't know wtf really was happening but i vaguely recall that occurring?
currently i have my mimikyu running:
shadow sneak
shadow claw
play rough
swords dance
the sneak and claw seem redundant at the moment, but as i mentioned overall it just doesnt seem to be powering out enough damage
Mine is the same but I have feint attack instead of shadow sneak for dark coverage. It's possible yours has bad stats as mine has been a beast. But then I don't play competitively. Speed seems to be super important so Play Rough can go first and just wreck things with the Sword Dance buff.
Mimikyu has been kinda disappointing in the battle thing (doubles). I saw it mentioned in other places that people were just crushing though all opposition by swords dancing a few times and then sweeping. I've found that I need to 2 hit things even after 2 x swords dance, usually because I don't have a super effective matchup. Not sure if it is basically luck with opposing teams or what
I mean, it's got 90 base Attack. Even after Swords Dance, it's not gonna set the world on fire with that.
that's kinda my confusion. i saw a lot of posts strewn throughout (not here) claiming that it was just a meatgrinder...and i assumed i was missing something because it doesnt appear to be?
It can do some work with Substitute, Z-Splash/Swords Dance, STAB Shadow Sneak/Play Rough. Can also Curse and Z-Curse your health back and then Curse again (could do this with Gengar technically but he doesnt have disguise.
the z-curse thing was in a tournament recently wasn't it? i didn't know wtf really was happening but i vaguely recall that occurring?
currently i have my mimikyu running:
shadow sneak
shadow claw
play rough
swords dance
the sneak and claw seem redundant at the moment, but as i mentioned overall it just doesnt seem to be powering out enough damage
How did you EV train it? My GF uses it with her Trick Room Team and it does good dmg although she uses Play Rough more and Leech Life (sans shadow claw I think). I think she EV Attack and.... cant remember. Ill ask her more details.
252 atk/252speed/4 something all 31 except special attack. i guess it's because everything it has been going again has been high def and effective rather than low def and super effective or whatever. or maybe it's just a function of doubles that it isn't going to have as many opportunities. i have it holding a life orb currently.
Mimikyu has been kinda disappointing in the battle thing (doubles). I saw it mentioned in other places that people were just crushing though all opposition by swords dancing a few times and then sweeping. I've found that I need to 2 hit things even after 2 x swords dance, usually because I don't have a super effective matchup. Not sure if it is basically luck with opposing teams or what
Mimikyu is better in singles I think
In doubles I've mostly seen it as a Trick Room setter
Mimikyu has been kinda disappointing in the battle thing (doubles). I saw it mentioned in other places that people were just crushing though all opposition by swords dancing a few times and then sweeping. I've found that I need to 2 hit things even after 2 x swords dance, usually because I don't have a super effective matchup. Not sure if it is basically luck with opposing teams or what
Mimikyu is better in singles I think
In doubles I've mostly seen it as a Trick Room setter
Shadow Sneak and Z Ghost is pretty good though
yeah i'm gonna give him a shot in the singles battle tree.
Why would Air Balloon and Focus Sash be consumed after use in regular battles when they aren't in Battle Tree
I went to level some mons on the E4 and now I have to grind like 200 BP
This has always been the case. Those items are meant for competitive play and are one-use to keep them from being insane. In Battle Xs or competitive play your pokes reset to their starting condition after a battle, items and all. In in-game fights against, say, the Elite 4 they do not and never have.
This applies to berries too.
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And now I can start playing the shiny game... well after I 100 it and get it its' chainer abilities. The 4 IVs I got were Attack, Def, Sp Def, and Speed.
Mimikyu has been kinda disappointing in the battle thing (doubles). I saw it mentioned in other places that people were just crushing though all opposition by swords dancing a few times and then sweeping. I've found that I need to 2 hit things even after 2 x swords dance, usually because I don't have a super effective matchup. Not sure if it is basically luck with opposing teams or what
Mimikyu is better in singles I think
In doubles I've mostly seen it as a Trick Room setter
Shadow Sneak and Z Ghost is pretty good though
Ah yeah, I do think he's better in singles. The few double battles I've done he hasn't been amazing or anything.
Doing a lot better in Battle Tree now. Putting a life orb on Rattleaxe, my Kommo-o sweeper, is making an immense difference on the amount of stuff I can actually oneshot after a Dragon Dance.
Also, my Vaporeon continues doing a surprising amount of work. This thing is surprisingly survivable. I never used a Vaporeon back in the day, I always went for Milotic and the like, but this guy is saving my ass a lot of times.
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"Dragon Dance", another popular stat boosting move, boosts your attack and speed by +1. It's scary since when both attack and speed are boosted, you can find yourself in a position where the boosted pokemon is both capable of defeating its opponents in a single hit while also always being able to move first. It can be hard to recover from that situation if you're not prepared.
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BTW, I just learned that getting a 30 or more win streak in the Battle Tree gets you a Bottle Cap if you talk to the receptionist the next day. I'm gonna try for at least 30 wins a day from now on, which so far hasn't been that hard.
right, i just wasn't really clear originally as to whether that is the number of iterations of <stat booster> vs. what is actually the case (levels of boost)
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BUZZWOLE - Careful; Leftovers; Leech Life, Earthquake, Superpower, Roost
PRIMARINA - Timid; Assault Vest; Surf, Moonblast, Shadow Ball, Psychic
MINIOR - Naive; Focus Sash; Shell Smash, Earthquake, Acrobatics, Power Gem
Also fuck Politoed for knowing Perish Song... I had to find two of those jerks because of that.
(side note, this is the first Pokemon game I have cared enough about to bother doing this since Red, so good job Pokemon Company
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They just are - adds some variety. Similar to the different flabebe colors in X & Y.
Pretty sure her development throughout the game means that by the end she's very much capable to be a Trainer, mentality-wise.
I find myself agreeing with the previous posters that it would be really cool if next game had her come back with a seriously balls to the walls team. Or if we went back to Kanto as some people are implying, how cool would it be to go into the Elite Four and find Lillie as the Kanto Champion, like Iris in BW2.
Ice is also the odd man out since it's the only pokemon type that doesn't have an npc associated with its z-crytsal.
I personally expect to see her back as soon as pokemon stars on the switch and I'm expecting a time skip like with bw/bw2. That gives time for plot stuff to happen and for something to be done with all the conspicuous empty lots scattered around Alola.
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Then Haba and Dexio have to enter Thunderdome for the rights to Psychic.
I do wonder where you learn the Z-dances for Ice, Psychic, Flying, and Dragon. Dragon's dance might be my favorite.
But you don't get the Dragon Z crystal from him.
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You don't get the other ones I mentioned from anyone shown either. That's why I'm asking.
Also, I did catch all catchable Pokémons. But there's a bunch you cannot catch at all. So there's where the GTS comes in.
And it's not that hard to farm razor claws with compound eyes and thief.
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Yeah that would be rad, were you wanting an HA Vulpix?
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I mean, it's got 90 base Attack. Even after Swords Dance, it's not gonna set the world on fire with that.
Why would Air Balloon and Focus Sash be consumed after use in regular battles when they aren't in Battle Tree
I went to level some mons on the E4 and now I have to grind like 200 BP
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Well, with any luck I should get some Metagrossite soon for my Metagross (I lucked into a Beldum with perfect IVs in HP/Att/Def/Speed) and I'm hoping that offensive boost will help.
The point is that they're all Alolan residents who who can use those z-moves against you in Alola.
Sina and dexio don't use the z-moves outside of the battle tree, now that I think about it I'm not even sure if I've ever seen Sina use an ice type z-move inside of the the battle tree.
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I have regenerator on my Toxi. But I am currently on a long chain of Smeargle Shiny.
that's kinda my confusion. i saw a lot of posts strewn throughout (not here) claiming that it was just a meatgrinder...and i assumed i was missing something because it doesnt appear to be?
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It can do some work with Substitute, Z-Splash/Swords Dance, STAB Shadow Sneak/Play Rough. Can also Curse and Z-Curse your health back and then Curse again (could do this with Gengar technically but he doesnt have disguise.
the z-curse thing was in a tournament recently wasn't it? i didn't know wtf really was happening but i vaguely recall that occurring?
currently i have my mimikyu running:
shadow sneak
shadow claw
play rough
swords dance
the sneak and claw seem redundant at the moment, but as i mentioned overall it just doesnt seem to be powering out enough damage
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Mine is the same but I have feint attack instead of shadow sneak for dark coverage. It's possible yours has bad stats as mine has been a beast. But then I don't play competitively. Speed seems to be super important so Play Rough can go first and just wreck things with the Sword Dance buff.
How did you EV train it? My GF uses it with her Trick Room Team and it does good dmg although she uses Play Rough more and Leech Life (sans shadow claw I think). I think she EV Attack and.... cant remember. Ill ask her more details.
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@Forever Zefiro Uhh sure I don't think I have a HA Vulpix yet.
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Mimikyu is better in singles I think
In doubles I've mostly seen it as a Trick Room setter
Shadow Sneak and Z Ghost is pretty good though
yeah i'm gonna give him a shot in the singles battle tree.
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This has always been the case. Those items are meant for competitive play and are one-use to keep them from being insane. In Battle Xs or competitive play your pokes reset to their starting condition after a battle, items and all. In in-game fights against, say, the Elite 4 they do not and never have.
This applies to berries too.
And now I can start playing the shiny game... well after I 100 it and get it its' chainer abilities. The 4 IVs I got were Attack, Def, Sp Def, and Speed.
Ah yeah, I do think he's better in singles. The few double battles I've done he hasn't been amazing or anything.
Also, my Vaporeon continues doing a surprising amount of work. This thing is surprisingly survivable. I never used a Vaporeon back in the day, I always went for Milotic and the like, but this guy is saving my ass a lot of times.