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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    Did anyone else watch the Vice City run? Ordinarily wouldn't have been something I'd have watched but it ended up being run of the show for me. The guy running explained exactly what he was doing and the reasons behind it the entire time and had good banter along the way. Just a very unexpectedly entertaining run.

    i saw about half of it cause i couldn't sleep last night, but wasn't able to make it through the entire thing. it was a really informative run though, and pretty entertaining too.

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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    Man, Super Mario Galaxy 2 has a really cool Bowser fight.

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    SMB Lost Levels 2 player 1 controller is up next. should be pretty cool.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Yeah, so glad that donation incentive was met. Big Jon is the best.

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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    Yeah, so glad that donation incentive was met. Big Jon is the best.
    would you like an egg roll?

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    cB557 wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    Yeah, so glad that donation incentive was met. Big Jon is the best.
    would you like an egg roll?

    How about a spring roll?

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    KoopahTroopahKoopahTroopah The koopas, the troopas. Philadelphia, PARegistered User regular
    edited January 2017
    TASBlock then DS3! Hype for the Super Metroid Race as always.

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    That Mario 3 TAS tho

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    FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    I 100% don't understand what is going on currently. Is this a recording?

    What the hell was up with that Gradius run? What is so special about all of this that I'm missing?

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Fawst wrote: »
    I 100% don't understand what is going on currently. Is this a recording?

    The TAS in TASBlock stands for Tool-Assisted Speedrun. They create scripts (I think they call them videos, or whatever) of extremely precise button inputs using emulators and then run those scripts through actual consoles using kludged up controller setups. What you're seeing is gameplay that's technically possible with just an NES and a controller, but of course no human can achieve that level of precision.

    If you saw the SMB3 thing, that was manipulation of the game's internal memory tables via precise placement of enemies and mario movement, basically rewriting the game's code. Then they do something else that executes the new code and boom, a custom screen and music plays. Again, technically possible with just an NES and a controller.

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Fawst wrote: »
    I 100% don't understand what is going on currently. Is this a recording?

    What the hell was up with that Gradius run? What is so special about all of this that I'm missing?

    TASbot is a preprogrammed bot that can manipulate bugs in the game that appear through extremely rapid and precise button inputs(we're talking more than the game was designed to handle and more than a human can input at a time) and actions to cause some really bizarre shit to happen.

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    FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    This went from head-scratcher to "my god, this is amazing."

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    If you look at the couch camera, they've got a few racks of controllers set up, and the buttons and such are blinking to show input; they're feeding inputs from all of those controllers to whatever system is working at the moment. I'd say it's an SNES, but they're playing Mario 64 on it now? I have no fucking idea.

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    PrjctD_CaptainPrjctD_Captain iFizzRegistered User regular
    I looked away for a moment, last I saw they were playing Lttp? Now its mario 64????

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    yea i don't understand what happened with the switch to sm64 from lttp

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    Dac VinDac Vin S-s-screw you! I only listen to DOUBLE MUSIC! Registered User regular
    "There's a lot of crazy stuff going on"

    You don't say.

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    And now they're playing Portal, which makes total sense

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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    I looked away for a moment, last I saw they were playing Lttp? Now its mario 64????
    I'm pretty sure they're still playing LttP.

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Basically if you like what you're seeing and you want to know more, set aside some time and go here;

    http://tasvideos.org/

    TAS has been around for a while and it's really interesting looking up your favorite games and watching TAS speedruns of them. And by "interesting" I mean "mind-blowing."

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    the TASbot runs are interesting, but as someone that's not super into speedrunning they're also one of the weakest parts of the GDQ events for me. am more impressed by seeing what is humanly possible. but others seem to love it so gotta give the people what they want. can't really complain all that much when its all for charity.

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    FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    Well, the TASbos runs on the GDQ events generally involve something insane like this. Running a video stream through several old consoles for example.

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Heh, ok. So for the Super Mario 64 and Portal gameplay, a pair of NES' were responsible for the left and right audio channels and an SNES was responsible for the video channel (at 10fps). And the racks of controllers are sending, to the three consoles combined, over a quarter of a million button presses per second. And they wrote some custom NES audio software to turn button presses into audio? And something similar for the SNES to convert button presses into video?

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    FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    I love how the portal thing they did was apparently a new record as well if I didn't misunderstand the stream, showing of some new ways to destroy the game.

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    chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    Well it was faster than the world record held by a human, I gathered that much from the stream. I don't think they really keep track of records done by TASBot though.

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    ZetxZetx 🐧 Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    IIRC they said the TAS was 3 minutes less than the human record. The TAS is likely a Source engine demo thing they played on one of the macbooks and streamed into the console via the controller ports. I think the actual-TASes themselves aren't super interesting, but I enjoy their creative process for the more "out of the box" exploits

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    fund-raising total just rushed past last years number. could it top 2015's total of $1,576,085? still a good few hours left to go.

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    That Bandai Namco bundle is probably going to bring in 1 million by itself.

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    it has accounted for a very healthy up swing in donations. the tracker has barely stopped moving since they showed it off. good on Bandai Namco for giving them all that swag.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    the TASbot runs are interesting, but as someone that's not super into speedrunning they're also one of the weakest parts of the GDQ events for me. am more impressed by seeing what is humanly possible. but others seem to love it so gotta give the people what they want. can't really complain all that much when its all for charity.
    Honestly for the past few years the TAS block is less about speedruns and more about ridiculous feats of programming/engineering.

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    FrozenzenFrozenzen Registered User regular
    Yeah, the TAS runs themselves are fun I guess, but the cool stuff is them doing really really impressive stuff with old console hardware.

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    Kai_SanKai_San Commonly known as Klineshrike! Registered User regular
    The thing is though, I think lots of TAS actual speedruns would be great to include because there is a ton of opportunity for commentary. A lot of the best TAS records involve painstaking path plotting, frame and number crunching, and rng manipulation that most human done games can't even touch. And while that might be technical, thats the kind of stuff that really entertains people.

    Also, you can REALLY make TAS runs showy because there never has to be safe strats.

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    the TASbot runs are interesting, but as someone that's not super into speedrunning they're also one of the weakest parts of the GDQ events for me. am more impressed by seeing what is humanly possible. but others seem to love it so gotta give the people what they want. can't really complain all that much when its all for charity.

    TAS stuff is less than half an hour of event time though man. If we want to look at seeing an even larger variety of runs, I'd start by looking squarely at the three to four hour behemoths that annually choke other games out of the schedule, or work on optimizing some of these 25-30 minute setup times that several of the runs have commanded.

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    Donnicton wrote: »
    Wraith260 wrote: »
    the TASbot runs are interesting, but as someone that's not super into speedrunning they're also one of the weakest parts of the GDQ events for me. am more impressed by seeing what is humanly possible. but others seem to love it so gotta give the people what they want. can't really complain all that much when its all for charity.

    TAS stuff is less than half an hour of event time though man. If we want to look at seeing an even larger variety of runs, I'd start by looking squarely at the three to four hour behemoths that annually choke other games out of the schedule, or work on optimizing some of these 25-30 minute setup times that several of the runs have commanded.

    its not really about the length. its just me not finding that section to be particularly engaging to watch. and i'm not asking for it to be replaced either. plenty of people enjoy it and that's great. i'm just not one of them. i can do something else during that block, its ok.

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    chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    From what I've seen, the Awful Block is my favorite. Lots of silliness and lots of different games. The interview segments have been surprisingly entertaining as well.

    I'm wondering how feasible it would be for them to have two separate stream areas that they alternate between in order to cut down on the downtime.

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    Commodore75Commodore75 gothenburg.seRegistered User regular
    Fire Island got them past 1.5 million

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    Fire Island got them past 1.5 million

    and already past $1,525,000. that record is gonna get smashed. eager to see just how high this goes :biggrin:

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    bout to break that fund raising record!

    EDIT: BOOM! and its done! $2M HYPE!!!

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    Maz- wrote: »
    That Bandai Namco bundle is probably going to bring in 1 million by itself.

    What bundle is this? I'm not seeing it.

    Oh, a donation incentive prize bundle? I thought it was like a Humble Bundle, they did one last year.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    Maz- wrote: »
    That Bandai Namco bundle is probably going to bring in 1 million by itself.

    What bundle is this? I'm not seeing it.

    Oh, a donation incentive prize bundle? I thought it was like a Humble Bundle, they did one last year.

    After how many donations it brought in, they extended the cutoff to the end of the marathon, as opposed to the end of DS3.

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    Wraith260Wraith260 Happiest Goomba! Registered User regular
    Super Metroid race is about to kick off and the tally is just passing $1,690,000. this is where it gets really interesting folks. :)

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