Possibly stupid question, but I'm guessing Retaliate does absolutely nothing for the Bartz fight, not even to simply dodge some hits/counters?
So far the team is Faris w/BSB, Galuf w/SSB, Gilgamesh w/SB and Lenna with... nothing. No other SB's. I'm just debating on the 5th. Either Bartz and I take a Shout RW and some spellblades, or Exdeath and I take an OK RW and do some damage with Swiftspell, and maybe carry a backup heal or shared medica.
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silence1186Character shields down!As a wingmanRegistered Userregular
Retaliate works on Ranger Shot and Elemental Spellblades, but NOT the Spellblade Flurries (or anything else not mentioned). It's not great value in the fight though.
Possibly stupid question, but I'm guessing Retaliate does absolutely nothing for the Bartz fight, not even to simply dodge some hits/counters?
So far the team is Faris w/BSB, Galuf w/SSB, Gilgamesh w/SB and Lenna with... nothing. No other SB's. I'm just debating on the 5th. Either Bartz and I take a Shout RW and some spellblades, or Exdeath and I take an OK RW and do some damage with Swiftspell, and maybe carry a backup heal or shared medica.
Hm. Don't think I'm beating Aiatar Apocalypse with a team of randos. Anyone want to get together in the next few days? I think he can be beat with the right team setup.
I think we'd need Proshell, Wall, and lots of breakage. I could bring Vaan and either Y'shtola, Alphinaud, or Terra.
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silence1186Character shields down!As a wingmanRegistered Userregular
Hm. Don't think I'm beating Aiatar Apocalypse with a team of randos. Anyone want to get together in the next few days? I think he can be beat with the right team setup.
I think we'd need Proshell, Wall, and lots of breakage. I could bring Vaan and either Y'shtola, Alphinaud, or Terra.
@enlong if you hop on Discord right now we're trying to do the hardest difficulty right now.
I've now got eyes on Fang/Lightning a few months down the track. I'm hoping I do a repeat with the FFXIV banner 1 and clean it out. Going to sacrifice Lightning's OSB for it though, but I expect en-elemental plus an elemental BSB is worth more than an OSB even with the stat stick
Edit: Holy crap, the Augmented Ninja Tekkos are now my best non-synergy bracers. 26 atk, 18 mag, 19 mnd at 20/20. The new generation caster gloves aren't shabby losing a few atk but having like 10 more mag though....
So tested out my new A-Team on my alt account on the Soul of Exdeath (and his little dragon, too) fight. Except . . . I forgot to equip KO resist accessories. Whoops.
Luneth (92) with two +Wind items, basically just Lifesiphon into BSB
Aerith (99) with her BSB
Warrior of Light (65) with two +Holy items (synergy sword), basically just Lifesiphon into BSB
Onion Knight (96) with his BSB, setup for magic
Ramza (99) with a synergy axe and Shout
RW - Wall
Stacking Shout and Vessel of Fate is pretty clearly overkill, I might replace Ramza with Faris and her AOE Imperil Wind SSB since that synergizes well with Luneth. I need to get more levels on Warrior of Light, I should probably just egg him to 80 and use an MC3 on him.
The fight was tricky because of the lack of KO resist, especially since it seemed that the %HP attacks were based off of MaxHP instead of CurrentHP. I had to reset the fight when Warrior of Light got killed right before Aerith finished casting her BSB. The second attempt I got some luck on the AI and had fewer of those attacks to deal with. I absolutely love the animation for Warrior of Light's BSB (I may have mentioned it before, but it bears repeating) and he was pushing out some crazy damage with his commands, which were of course helped by Exdeath's Soul being weak to Holy element. I also realized I now have 3 shields (and 1 robe) with +Holy on them, in addition to the various weapons. I do need to make sure to gear WoL appropriately to make sure I get all 5 hits, in this fight I was only getting 4 but that was mostly because he lacked some levels. Still, he hit for 32k+ a round which was plenty. Luneth was hitting for about half that because he wasn't hitting a weakness.
At some point I'll put together a mage team, but I'll need to look and see what mage abilities I can afford to hone up without disrupting any other plans. With Onion Knight's BSB, Alphinaud's BSB and Braska's Summoner's Dream SSB I should be able to fit together something suitable. If I dive Faris to 5* Dancer I could bring her along as my support even if I want to avoid physical attacks completely, though she could certainly do well with Full Break and a Breakdown and would be able to imperil wind for Alphinaud.
Man I have so many skills that want fire orbs now how did this happen. I want chain firaga r3 (currently r2), meteor crush r2 (currently r1), fires within r3 (currently r2), shouldering flames r3? since I have this thancred burst which could work on a fire team, blazing twin strike also useful.
I have 96 majors, and 60 more I could convert. Close, esp if I drop fires within.
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BeastehTHAT WOULD NOTKILL DRACULARegistered Userregular
I immediately used every single one of those new motes, got Y'shtola +12% healing and made Refia/Zell/Vaan even more insane
My kingdom for dexterity motes
Did the U+ CM without any heals since Y'shtola got paralysed, Minfilia carried with Guts spam while fires within + meltdown tore the boss a new b hole
Garuda was pretty easy for a U++
Protip for the multiplayer Aiatar: bring a draw fire tank like Greg or Agrias/Beatrix, let all the squishies have fun casting fire stuff while you take the damage for them
BeastehTHAT WOULD NOTKILL DRACULARegistered Userregular
Agrias using gaia cross + saint cross with +40% Knight RM chaining her BSB into cleansing strike is p r e t t y g o o d
With her command 1 defense buff and cleansing strike plus full break/power breakdown/protectga/wall, the poison snap was doing 150 damage per hit and building a crazy amount of meter
Agrias using gaia cross + saint cross with +40% Knight RM chaining her BSB into cleansing strike is p r e t t y g o o d
With her command 1 defense buff and cleansing strike plus full break/power breakdown/protectga/wall, the poison snap was doing 150 damage per hit and building a crazy amount of meter
Who knew tanking was this fun
Following that idea, I've been rolling around the multiplayer with a tank Minfilia punishing the holy/fire weak phases with 50k burst entries.
I just finished a run with someone who has Yda's BSB. It was so awesome having Minfilia tank all the hits and Yda just continued to roll GL3 and was dealing about 16-17k damage on the burst commands at level 73.
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edited January 2017
Damn, last of my mythril spent. No more FFXIV wonder rolls.
Wanted to get something for Thancred or Minfillia before it was over but can't complain with landing Y'shtola's everything, a burst for Alphinaud and a shiny new armor piece for Yda (can't really think of alot of times I would need to boost the entire party's mind but eh, the critical chance boost is nice).
This is easily the biggest pay off I've gotten in FFRK to date.
500 mythril and $90 later and I got absolutely nothing I wanted. Even got the only dupe on the second banner I could get when pretty much everything else was new. Twice! 1/11 both pulls. Bah.
If I was the type to rage quit this would definitely be the time I'd uninstall, hah.
Luckily all it means is I've been turned off ever spending money again because that's some hot garbage luck.
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BeastehTHAT WOULD NOTKILL DRACULARegistered Userregular
I've played a few gacha games where I don't feel like hot ass after a binge. This just apparently isn't one of them. Which, I mean, that's fine. Least now I'll probably just randomly pull on stuff since saving leads to heartbreak.
Just so you know, evidently, Chudo-Yudo can drop Greater Fire Orbs, Major Black(?) Orbs, or Summon Crystals.
I've gotten two Major Wind Orbs from the 160 Aiatar battle if people need those. Any good holy or fire break puts him in the ground (as do wall breaks).
My bad; Chudo-Yudo does not drop Summon Crystals. I can now confirm that he drops Dark Crystals.
Edit:
I've decided to change my Roaming Warrior for a little bit. It's now Alphinaud with Deployment Tactics. Code is still QNeN. Let me know if you want me to swap back to Seraphic Ray or something.
The V Ultimate drops Summon Crystals though. And I got one! @Enlong here's my first try at doing a U+ fight with Yshtola for Aetherial Pulse -> Stoneskin II without using Wrath:
This is not the best example for multiple reasons:
- I could just as well have equipped Protectga and Shellga on this party and started with SS2
- Beatrix chipped in with a Curada cast at the beginning to keep Sephiroth up
- the fight is basically all fire damage, which I'm reducing by 40% on everyone thanks to accessories
- Bravery synergy means everyone's DEF and RES are much higher than normal
- AOE counter spam means SS2 gets charged up much sooner than normal
On the other hand:
- oh god the AOE counter spam
- I'm a dumb-dumb and didn't read Dr. Mog's tips or the AI script, so I ate an unmitigated counter right at the start, ow
- I'm not exactly using a super tippy-top team here
I'll try to find a better example on another fight.
What's the deal with these FFXIV bosses piercing defense so much? I've got Wall up, Aetherial Pulse up, full break up, and the appropriately matched Breakdown, and the 140 boss was still doing like 1200-1400 per attack through all those defenses, and the 160 boss is doing like 2500 with magic breath attacks.
Speaking of the magic breath attacks on the 160, Dr. Mog very specifically says that this boss only uses physical. I still have wall and Aetherial, so I'm covered against magic, but Dr. Mog is a super liar. His text states, and I quote: "Luckily Isgebind only uses physical attacks , so you can bring abilities like Protectga and Power Breakdown to redduce the incoming damage"
500 mythril and $90 later and I got absolutely nothing I wanted. Even got the only dupe on the second banner I could get when pretty much everything else was new. Twice! 1/11 both pulls. Bah.
If I was the type to rage quit this would definitely be the time I'd uninstall, hah.
Luckily all it means is I've been turned off ever spending money again because that's some hot garbage luck.
I'm truly sorry to hear that. Here's hoping the lucky banners are truly lucky for you. If you are looking for a bright side, at least this means future banners will have less high quality dupes you wanted to avoid!
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Dragon Breath on TURN 1, are you fucking kidding me?
She was supposed to get it with Gold Fes, but didn't.
So I assumed she'd get it with Gold Coliseum, but she didn't.
Guess we'll be waiting four months for Gold Orchestra!
The other bard characters are similarly fucked over and should've gotten their record dives three months ago. Echo, Sarah, Mog, Kefka, and Cait Sith.
E:
At this point, the only way they could make that bard banner worth pulling on is if it's free. 6 relics, all SSBs.
So far the team is Faris w/BSB, Galuf w/SSB, Gilgamesh w/SB and Lenna with... nothing. No other SB's. I'm just debating on the 5th. Either Bartz and I take a Shout RW and some spellblades, or Exdeath and I take an OK RW and do some damage with Swiftspell, and maybe carry a backup heal or shared medica.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/5jkbiv/v_heir_of_the_dawn_enemy_stats_and_ai/
Retaliate (and Draw Fire) only affect things typed PHY.
I think we'd need Proshell, Wall, and lots of breakage. I could bring Vaan and either Y'shtola, Alphinaud, or Terra.
@enlong if you hop on Discord right now we're trying to do the hardest difficulty right now.
Hasn't seemed like it.
Watching Deployement Tactics trigger against Dragon Breath and Granite Rain was hilarious.
thankfully it didn't matter because U+ is a faceroll, but still sad!
I really need another good damage BSSB, Squall has been solid for a long while but his burst is definitely showing its age.
FFXIII's second banner has two, plus one that syncs with the OSB on it!
Unless you mean physical, in which case, TGCid (w/Agrias) is also great.
Instead I did two 11 pulls and somehow got a dupe air knives both times.
This game really doesn't like me, I'm coming to understand.
Edit: Holy crap, the Augmented Ninja Tekkos are now my best non-synergy bracers. 26 atk, 18 mag, 19 mnd at 20/20. The new generation caster gloves aren't shabby losing a few atk but having like 10 more mag though....
This time, I killed her before she used Aerial Blast. Enelement/BSB combos are a hell of a drug.
Luneth (92) with two +Wind items, basically just Lifesiphon into BSB
Aerith (99) with her BSB
Warrior of Light (65) with two +Holy items (synergy sword), basically just Lifesiphon into BSB
Onion Knight (96) with his BSB, setup for magic
Ramza (99) with a synergy axe and Shout
RW - Wall
Stacking Shout and Vessel of Fate is pretty clearly overkill, I might replace Ramza with Faris and her AOE Imperil Wind SSB since that synergizes well with Luneth. I need to get more levels on Warrior of Light, I should probably just egg him to 80 and use an MC3 on him.
The fight was tricky because of the lack of KO resist, especially since it seemed that the %HP attacks were based off of MaxHP instead of CurrentHP. I had to reset the fight when Warrior of Light got killed right before Aerith finished casting her BSB. The second attempt I got some luck on the AI and had fewer of those attacks to deal with. I absolutely love the animation for Warrior of Light's BSB (I may have mentioned it before, but it bears repeating) and he was pushing out some crazy damage with his commands, which were of course helped by Exdeath's Soul being weak to Holy element. I also realized I now have 3 shields (and 1 robe) with +Holy on them, in addition to the various weapons. I do need to make sure to gear WoL appropriately to make sure I get all 5 hits, in this fight I was only getting 4 but that was mostly because he lacked some levels. Still, he hit for 32k+ a round which was plenty. Luneth was hitting for about half that because he wasn't hitting a weakness.
At some point I'll put together a mage team, but I'll need to look and see what mage abilities I can afford to hone up without disrupting any other plans. With Onion Knight's BSB, Alphinaud's BSB and Braska's Summoner's Dream SSB I should be able to fit together something suitable. If I dive Faris to 5* Dancer I could bring her along as my support even if I want to avoid physical attacks completely, though she could certainly do well with Full Break and a Breakdown and would be able to imperil wind for Alphinaud.
I have 96 majors, and 60 more I could convert. Close, esp if I drop fires within.
My kingdom for dexterity motes
Did the U+ CM without any heals since Y'shtola got paralysed, Minfilia carried with Guts spam while fires within + meltdown tore the boss a new b hole
Garuda was pretty easy for a U++
Protip for the multiplayer Aiatar: bring a draw fire tank like Greg or Agrias/Beatrix, let all the squishies have fun casting fire stuff while you take the damage for them
So. Deployment Tactics is pretty good.
With her command 1 defense buff and cleansing strike plus full break/power breakdown/protectga/wall, the poison snap was doing 150 damage per hit and building a crazy amount of meter
Who knew tanking was this fun
Following that idea, I've been rolling around the multiplayer with a tank Minfilia punishing the holy/fire weak phases with 50k burst entries.
I just finished a run with someone who has Yda's BSB. It was so awesome having Minfilia tank all the hits and Yda just continued to roll GL3 and was dealing about 16-17k damage on the burst commands at level 73.
Wanted to get something for Thancred or Minfillia before it was over but can't complain with landing Y'shtola's everything, a burst for Alphinaud and a shiny new armor piece for Yda (can't really think of alot of times I would need to boost the entire party's mind but eh, the critical chance boost is nice).
This is easily the biggest pay off I've gotten in FFRK to date.
If I was the type to rage quit this would definitely be the time I'd uninstall, hah.
Luckily all it means is I've been turned off ever spending money again because that's some hot garbage luck.
Remember when max stamina was like, 80, so a single elite dungeon would take up most of your bar?
Remember when enemies didn't have health bars? Remember when crafting materials took up an equipment slot?
I've gotten two Major Wind Orbs from the 160 Aiatar battle if people need those. Any good holy or fire break puts him in the ground (as do wall breaks).
Edit:
I've decided to change my Roaming Warrior for a little bit. It's now Alphinaud with Deployment Tactics. Code is still QNeN. Let me know if you want me to swap back to Seraphic Ray or something.
@Enlong here's my first try at doing a U+ fight with Yshtola for Aetherial Pulse -> Stoneskin II without using Wrath:
This is not the best example for multiple reasons:
- I could just as well have equipped Protectga and Shellga on this party and started with SS2
- Beatrix chipped in with a Curada cast at the beginning to keep Sephiroth up
- the fight is basically all fire damage, which I'm reducing by 40% on everyone thanks to accessories
- Bravery synergy means everyone's DEF and RES are much higher than normal
- AOE counter spam means SS2 gets charged up much sooner than normal
On the other hand:
- oh god the AOE counter spam
- I'm a dumb-dumb and didn't read Dr. Mog's tips or the AI script, so I ate an unmitigated counter right at the start, ow
- I'm not exactly using a super tippy-top team here
I'll try to find a better example on another fight.
Speaking of the magic breath attacks on the 160, Dr. Mog very specifically says that this boss only uses physical. I still have wall and Aetherial, so I'm covered against magic, but Dr. Mog is a super liar. His text states, and I quote: "Luckily Isgebind only uses physical attacks , so you can bring abilities like Protectga and Power Breakdown to redduce the incoming damage"
Bullshit he only does physical.
I remember the days before SB mastery. Figuring out how best to equip a character was fun times then.
It's a little obnoxious to use a big piercing attack on 50% of turns, but it's single target, so hopefully you can Curaja your way past it.
Check out Bravely Default.
And Chudo-Yudo and Aiatar in this event, actually.
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I'm truly sorry to hear that. Here's hoping the lucky banners are truly lucky for you. If you are looking for a bright side, at least this means future banners will have less high quality dupes you wanted to avoid!
What do you have from it?