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JRPG Thread: Suikoden is fun to say.

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    a remake of a game I already played on a system that won't be relevant much longer. uhhhh

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Beating a game on a higher difficulty is its own pleasure. This conversation sort of reminds me of Vanquish, where you could get all the achievements without ever touching the game's highest difficulty

    I love Vanquish forever, I think it's my favorite shooter engine ever.

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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Nier is super hard as is on normal

    There is no benefit to hard, dont push it if you dont have to

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    Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    The one thing I want from the Radiant Historia remake is for them to no longer take Eruca out of your party for the last two dungeons for no good reason.

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    Moth 13 wrote: »
    The one thing I want from the Radiant Historia remake is for them to no longer take Eruca out of your party for the last two dungeons for no good reason.

    This + buffing Rosch and nerfing Aht are what I am hoping for.

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    you keep your filthy hands off aht

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    BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    I hated feeling like I had to use her to play effectively. Get rid of her movement skills but keep her traps.

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Nier is super hard as is on normal

    There is no benefit to hard, dont push it if you dont have to

    I actually turned it down to easy for the first time on the final phase of the final boss on Route A.

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    TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Nier is super hard as is on normal

    There is no benefit to hard, dont push it if you dont have to

    I actually turned it down to easy for the first time on the final phase of the final boss on Route A.

    I haven't bought the game yet. Can you swap difficulties on the fly?

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Tcheldor wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    Nier is super hard as is on normal

    There is no benefit to hard, dont push it if you dont have to

    I actually turned it down to easy for the first time on the final phase of the final boss on Route A.

    I haven't bought the game yet. Can you swap difficulties on the fly?

    yes

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i thought nier was super easy once you started just holding down the fire button for an entire fight

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    i thought nier was super easy once you started just holding down the fire button for an entire fight

    I feel like I've damaged the triggers on my PS4 controllers. It's one of the reasons why I'm toying with Hard, no lock-on makes the pods much weaker(well, not the missile pod)

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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Nier is super hard as is on normal

    There is no benefit to hard, dont push it if you dont have to

    I actually turned it down to easy for the first time on the final phase of the final boss on Route A.
    Its so bad

    i thought nier was super easy once you started just holding down the fire button for an entire fight

    This was so boring tho

    (Also pure water is precious as gold)

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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    ugh I need pure water, I forgot

    where can you find that stuff?

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    ugh I need pure water, I forgot

    where can you find that stuff?

    Rare ground item in the flooded city and a rare quest reward. I had 6 by the time I cleared Ending E.

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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    edited March 2017
    I am never going to get this upgrade

    edit: eh, I got the scanner now, maybe I'll just try and grind it out

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    Mikey CTSMikey CTS Registered User regular
    Automata's not an easy game but I don't think it's that difficult on Normal. Though to be honest I may have over-leveled quite a bit. I LIKE BIGGER NUMBERS, I'M SORRY!

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    DeansDeans Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    There are various ways to make yourself overpowered, the various healing chips can make you pretty much unkillable. I need to play through again without those chips and being as stylish as I can be, and rely on taunts to increase my damage.

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    DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    Yeah honestly, I'd say the real way to increase the challenge in Nier without actually playing on hard is to just play without plug-in chips

    Game gets a lot harder when you aren't just auto-healing off of everything

    The main way I healed before getting those chips was retrieving the bodies of other players, which was kind of a cool mechanic

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    I got the slash wave chip sometime before the end of the amusement park and it seems really good. Am I missing any downsides to it, or?

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i mean it's not as much damage as your sword hit but no it's what it looks like on the tin

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    RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    Rainfall wrote: »
    ugh I need pure water, I forgot

    where can you find that stuff?

    Rare ground item in the flooded city and a rare quest reward. I had 6 by the time I cleared Ending E.

    I'm in the middle of C, just got 5 of them as a quest reward, which gave me 12 or so total. Got a Pod upgrade finally, woo.

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    DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    Just realized I should probably have more than two Pods and looked up the location of Pod B, since I remember someone hinting at the location but I never found one there

    God, fishing, really?

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    really fishing!

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    DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    I even did some fishing there! I just got starfishes and crabs and stuff. And those weird machine fish.

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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    it took me forevvvvver

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    i mean it's not as much damage as your sword hit but no it's what it looks like on the tin

    Yeah, shockwave is very good.

    Chips I always have equipped: shockwave, auto-heal, auto-item, EXP boost, item drop boost. And then I just fit in as many melee resistance and weapon-damage ups as I can.

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Also, I just started my second playthrough of Nier
    Hacking is cool and all, but it is ROUGH having only one attack button when you're playing as 9S.

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    DeansDeans Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Also, I just started my second playthrough of Nier
    Hacking is cool and all, but it is ROUGH having only one attack button when you're playing as 9S.

    Some tips for that:
    9S actually still has Heavy attacks, there are a couple ways to do them. Press Attack, then delay, then more Attacks to do a Heavy chain. You can also start a Heavy chain by pressing Attack immediately after a dodge. And of course he can still do charge attacks and launchers and sprinting attacks like 2B, just with the light attack button instead.

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Deans wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »
    Also, I just started my second playthrough of Nier
    Hacking is cool and all, but it is ROUGH having only one attack button when you're playing as 9S.

    Some tips for that:
    9S actually still has Heavy attacks, there are a couple ways to do them. Press Attack, then delay, then more Attacks to do a Heavy chain. You can also start a Heavy chain by pressing Attack immediately after a dodge. And of course he can still do charge attacks and launchers and sprinting attacks like 2B, just with the light attack button instead.
    Ah, okay

    I suspected he might have some sort of delay mechanic. But Nier doesn't seem to have any sort of combo list (unlike every other Platinum game I've played), so it was tough to tell.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    the best chip is the one that puts chests on your minimap

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    the best chip is the one that puts chests on your minimap

    Yo WHAT?

    I need that chip yesterday

    Also I have, like, 7 Pure Waters and I only just now finished the desert boss on Route B.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    i just had it in shops on playthrough 2

    because i'm better than you are

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    Is it just me or is the camera in Nier Automata kind of bad? At least there's a bunch of settings you can mess with to make it better, but it'd be nice if it was just good to begin with.

    It seemed to never point in the direction I was moving, so I turned up the auto-adjust settings. Then it always seemed to move really close to the ground and I ended up turning the vertical auto-adjust all the way down.

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Peewi wrote: »
    Is it just me or is the camera in Nier Automata kind of bad? At least there's a bunch of settings you can mess with to make it better, but it'd be nice if it was just good to begin with.

    It seemed to never point in the direction I was moving, so I turned up the auto-adjust settings. Then it always seemed to move really close to the ground and I ended up turning the vertical auto-adjust all the way down.

    Platinum has always had...issues with cameras.

    Revengeance was pretty bad, so Nier seems fine to me.

    Also there are some instances where the camera is purposefully bad, because Yoko Taro is a dick.

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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    While Bayonetta and Revengeance certainly have camera issues, I remember them being much less frequent than this.

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    chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    I... Haven't actually had much in the way of camera issues? But I mostly play games that expect me to move the camera so I don't really leave it up to the auto movement much.

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    YukiraYukira Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Stilts wrote: »
    Also, I just started my second playthrough of Nier
    Hacking is cool and all, but it is ROUGH having only one attack button when you're playing as 9S.
    I spent all of my 9S gameplay dodging and hacking. I might have attacked in maybe 10-15 fights total.

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    DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Mikey CTS wrote: »
    Automata's not an easy game but I don't think it's that difficult on Normal. Though to be honest I may have over-leveled quite a bit. I LIKE BIGGER NUMBERS, I'M SORRY!

    I would argue that on normal it is kinda easy. But different people find different stuff challenging!

    I was WAY under-leveled all game. I did basically no side-quests and didn't fight anything but required encounters (and enough of the tall skinny guys to upgrade my yohra blade to rank 3)

    Like I was 20 levels down at many points. But the dodge is incredibly forgiving. If you see an attack you don't have to time it, you just mash it and WHHOOP no damage!

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    Mikey CTSMikey CTS Registered User regular
    I too take advantage of the very forgiving dodge, but I want to trigger the rad parries. I'll dash into a horde of baddies, light-to-heavy combo, then dash out hopefully triggering the parry. But I still wouldn't say it's easy on normal. There's a lot to learn and the game doesn't tell you how to do most of it.

    Speaking of parries...
    If you hit the Pod fire bumper after a perfect dodge, you'll toss a grenade as your parry. It's pretty cool, but I think you still do more damage with a light or heavy attack.

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