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Nintendo Switch: March 3rd 2017

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    Mind you, I'm sure Nintendo is delighted they've made a successor system that they don't have to shell out licensing fees for also being a DVD/Blu Ray player.

    I'm delighted by cartridges.

    Like I know this is old news by now, we got lots of storage on tiny cards. I don't care, there is still no surer sign of living in the future than having this:

    5nIQZ9f.jpg?1

    stored on this:

    ZkzmNaq.jpg?1

    Plus I already got visions of a nice comfy carrying case for the Switch with slots for a dozen or more games across from it.

    Actually the size of the system vs. the size of the cards means we should be pretty good on that front. My current 3DS case only has room for 8 games. The Switch being bigger means I get to carry more games too. :)

    another point- carts dont require installs to play. ever.

    re- case. Nintendo's accessories pricing is doodoo. However. Their bag has what you just asked for and comes with a screen protector for 20. i was shocked by thier valuation of that compared to the rest.

    Why would you think a cart wouldn't require an install?

    because they said only the Wii U version requires an install?

    of course, they could have been lying or omitting information I guess

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    I hated LA Noire so much. It's the one game I bought full price at launch that I regret the most.

    The first main character is an unlikable cunt.
    The second main character can't possibly be more of a Marty Stu if he tried.
    There is literally only one correct path through every negeociation and deviation from that costs you.
    The wonderfully recreated city has jack shit to do in it.
    Every chase sequence has you run into countless invisible walls.
    The story has more plot holes in it than swiss cheese.

    And this came after Red Dead Redemption which was fantastic in every way.

    I wonder what the actual vision of the game was originally. Because having an open world with almost nothing to do, and the ending nutjob's backstory presented through missable cutscenes (I missed some newspapers) just strike me as design flaws so egregious that they couldn't have been what people actually wanted from the start. To say nothing of the other issues you mention.

    Am I the only one who felt that the body language aspect of the interrogations became exceedingly counterintuitive as the game went on? Someone would act squirrely, but they'd actually be telling the truth. Someone would act normal, but be lying through their teeth. Now, I expect that kind of realistic variance every now and then, but towards the end it just felt like the game was trolling me. Maybe I just sucked at it, though.

    The game also trolled you by having you convict, and giving you perfect scores for doing so, people you knew as a player were innocent. And the characters damn well knew it too.

    You were throwing the book at people who could be convicted by evidence you had, not the actual culprits, in the Homicide cases for example.

    More to the point, having EVERY homicide case be related just got silly after a while. And the big twist at the end of the homicide section was really poorly set up, mainly because get game did practically zilch to set up the main character's personal life to get us invested when it gets shattered. (Not to mention whiffing on the consequences of all those innocent people who got charged.) And that ending.

    But honestly, I it was a great experience overall. The facial tech was AMAZING. Nothing on this generation's hardware has come close to matching it. And I'm a sucker for Ace Attorney-style games, so I dug the crap out of it.

    Still.... I'm baffled by this port. I'll be happy to play it again, but it never seemed to sell well overall.

    Oh, in case anyone's wondering, the Whore of the Orient game the original developers were planning has been officially canned. (And if you've never read it, you should read about the complete shitstorm that surrounded Team Bondi... yeesh)

    Edit: The shitstorm probably explains why the world was relatively barren and the ending was a mess -- Rockstar themselves had to step in to finish the game.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    another point- carts dont require installs to play. ever.

    Why would you think a cart wouldn't require an install?

    It might be a bit much to say no cart would never require an install ever, but it's true that carts have blazing fast read speeds compared to discs. No heads moving, no spinning, no seek time. That's why most games install, because Blu-Ray drives alone are too slow to keep up with the data requirements of modern games.

    The only reason it might require an install is if a lot of data is significantly compressed, and needs to be decompressed to access. The cards have similar storage capacity as a Blu-Ray, which means if things need to be compressed on a Blu-Ray they would need to be on a cartridge as well. But even that operation would run much faster, the initial read of the compressed file.

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    ever is strong. Much less likely to require an install.

    the initial carts are 16 gb i heard.

    disagea being day 1 is interesting.... i love those games and NEVER finish those games.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    What would it need to install, though? Part of the reason for installs is so that games load faster. Since the carts are already faster than BDROMs there'd be no need.

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    ever is strong. Much less likely to require an install.

    the initial carts are 16 gb i heard.

    disagea being day 1 is interesting.... i love those games and NEVER finish those games.

    16 is rumored to be the standard size, but it's very likely 32 is a more expensive option as well.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    Mind you, I'm sure Nintendo is delighted they've made a successor system that they don't have to shell out licensing fees for also being a DVD/Blu Ray player.

    I'm delighted by cartridges.

    Like I know this is old news by now, we got lots of storage on tiny cards. I don't care, there is still no surer sign of living in the future than having this:

    5nIQZ9f.jpg?1

    stored on this:

    ZkzmNaq.jpg?1

    Plus I already got visions of a nice comfy carrying case for the Switch with slots for a dozen or more games across from it.

    Actually the size of the system vs. the size of the cards means we should be pretty good on that front. My current 3DS case only has room for 8 games. The Switch being bigger means I get to carry more games too. :)

    another point- carts dont require installs to play. ever.

    re- case. Nintendo's accessories pricing is doodoo. However. Their bag has what you just asked for and comes with a screen protector for 20. i was shocked by thier valuation of that compared to the rest.

    Why would you think a cart wouldn't require an install?

    because they said only the Wii U version requires an install?

    of course, they could have been lying or omitting information I guess

    I had not heard then claim this. I assume you mean for Zelda?

    And the initial carts being 16gb seems pretty small. I'll be curious to see how that works. Helps with the storage size if there are no installs but patches will still be an issue.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    As far as Switch not having Netflix or other multimedia stuff -- I wonder if that's part of Nintendo's positioning. Remember, Switch seems designed from the ground up to feel like a unique, new type of device. Nintendo likely doesn't want people to think "oh, it's a portable game system with a TV out" or "oh, it's a tablet with physical controllers." Which would cause people to say yeah that's cool, but I'll stick with my tablet/smartphone/3DS/whatever. With that kind of mindset, it's possible Nintendo feels that adding in multimedia stuff will remind people too much of other types of devices. After all, Netflix runs on pretty much everything. I know it sounds nutty, but actually not having it would make the device feel unique. Or so the thinking goes.

    Or maybe I'm overthinking it and it's just a cost/timing thing.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    urahonky wrote: »
    What would it need to install, though? Part of the reason for installs is so that games load faster. Since the carts are already faster than BDROMs there'd be no need.

    Let's say the fully uncompressed game is 50 GB but significant parts are compressed in order to fit on a 16 or 32 GB cartridge. You might choose to install in order to make some of that data ready for access at any time, no need to decompress, in order to reduce load times.

    However, Nintendo games should almost never require installs seeing that their higher end top out at 10-15 GB.

    cloudeagle wrote: »
    As far as Switch not having Netflix or other multimedia stuff -- I wonder if that's part of Nintendo's positioning. Remember, Switch seems designed from the ground up to feel like a unique, new type of device. Nintendo likely doesn't want people to think "oh, it's a portable game system with a TV out" or "oh, it's a tablet with physical controllers." Which would cause people to say yeah that's cool, but I'll stick with my tablet/smartphone/3DS/whatever. With that kind of mindset, it's possible Nintendo feels that adding in multimedia stuff will remind people too much of other types of devices. After all, Netflix runs on pretty much everything. I know it sounds nutty, but actually not having it would make the device feel unique. Or so the thinking goes.

    Or maybe I'm overthinking it and it's just a cost/timing thing.

    I think that's just at launch, it's probably going to get everything the Wii U had.

    I'm curious about the browser, though. They've tended to have surprisingly good browsers in the past, and I've used them on occasion to look up stuff in a guide while playing a game. But this is the first time in over a decade they don't have guaranteed access to a touch screen or mouse-like pointer. I hope they don't abandon the idea just because people will need to control it with buttons.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    What would it need to install, though? Part of the reason for installs is so that games load faster. Since the carts are already faster than BDROMs there'd be no need.

    Let's say the fully uncompressed game is 50 GB but significant parts are compressed in order to fit on a 16 or 32 GB cartridge. You might choose to install in order to make some of that data ready for access at any time, no need to decompress, in order to reduce load times.

    However, Nintendo games should almost never require installs seeing that their higher end top out at 10-15 GB.

    cloudeagle wrote: »
    As far as Switch not having Netflix or other multimedia stuff -- I wonder if that's part of Nintendo's positioning. Remember, Switch seems designed from the ground up to feel like a unique, new type of device. Nintendo likely doesn't want people to think "oh, it's a portable game system with a TV out" or "oh, it's a tablet with physical controllers." Which would cause people to say yeah that's cool, but I'll stick with my tablet/smartphone/3DS/whatever. With that kind of mindset, it's possible Nintendo feels that adding in multimedia stuff will remind people too much of other types of devices. After all, Netflix runs on pretty much everything. I know it sounds nutty, but actually not having it would make the device feel unique. Or so the thinking goes.

    Or maybe I'm overthinking it and it's just a cost/timing thing.

    I think that's just at launch, it's probably going to get everything the Wii U had.

    I'm curious about the browser, though. They've tended to have surprisingly good browsers in the past, and I've used them on occasion to look up stuff in a guide while playing a game. But this is the first time in over a decade they don't have guaranteed access to a touch screen or mouse-like pointer. I hope they don't abandon the idea just because people will need to control it with buttons.

    Which is why part of me wonders why there's absolutely NOTHING multimedia-wise. I mean, I know Nintendo loves its development secrecy and all that, but the Switch interface seems weirdly barren. Especially since the Wii got Netflix use like crazy.

    Time will tell, I guess.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Kriegaffe wrote: »
    eelektrik wrote: »
    Talith wrote: »
    Looks like Disgaea 5 is releasing at launch as well. This would be awesome for me if I could somehow obtain a Switch.

    I have never played Disgaea but having a tactics RPG at launch sounds like a great accompaniment to Breath of the Wild. I will definitely grab it before it becomes impossible to find later too.

    Has Disgaea gotten more crazy or less crazy since the first one? Cause the first one had random dungeons inside every weapon. I kinda liked it, but I was also a bit paralysed by options.

    More crazy.

    Enter board game inside characters to power them up too.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    Mind you, I'm sure Nintendo is delighted they've made a successor system that they don't have to shell out licensing fees for also being a DVD/Blu Ray player.

    I'm delighted by cartridges.

    Like I know this is old news by now, we got lots of storage on tiny cards. I don't care, there is still no surer sign of living in the future than having this:

    5nIQZ9f.jpg?1

    stored on this:

    ZkzmNaq.jpg?1

    Plus I already got visions of a nice comfy carrying case for the Switch with slots for a dozen or more games across from it.

    Actually the size of the system vs. the size of the cards means we should be pretty good on that front. My current 3DS case only has room for 8 games. The Switch being bigger means I get to carry more games too. :)

    another point- carts dont require installs to play. ever.

    re- case. Nintendo's accessories pricing is doodoo. However. Their bag has what you just asked for and comes with a screen protector for 20. i was shocked by thier valuation of that compared to the rest.

    Why would you think a cart wouldn't require an install?

    because they said only the Wii U version requires an install?

    of course, they could have been lying or omitting information I guess

    I had not heard then claim this. I assume you mean for Zelda?

    And the initial carts being 16gb seems pretty small. I'll be curious to see how that works. Helps with the storage size if there are no installs but patches will still be an issue.

    yes, just zelda

    no mention of others, but I can't see why there would be a difference

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    Possible information on number of units planned for the Switch's first 10 months:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/nintendo-uses-japan-display-as-sole-screen-panel-supplier-for-switch-1484719384
    TOKYO—If Nintendo Co. finds success with its videogame console, Switch, it could brighten the future not only of Nintendo but also of Japan Display Inc., a struggling display maker that won the contract to make the Switch’s screens.

    People familiar with the matter said Nintendo picked Japan Display as the exclusive supplier of the Switch’s 6.2-inch touch-sensitive liquid-crystal display. The Switch, which can be used both as a stationary console and a hand-held player on the go, is to go on sale globally March 3.

    The contract calls for Japan Display to supply three million screens in an initial batch, and the company is gearing up to ship slightly more than 10 million units by the end of this year, the people said. However, the latter figure is subject to change depending on sales, they said. Spokesmen for Nintendo and JDI declined to comment.

    Nintendo has said it would ship two million Switch units in its first month on the market.

    People familiar with the deal said it probably wouldn’t contribute much to JDI’s profit, at least initially. The company’s fortunes remain tied to smartphone makers, including Apple Inc., that buy more expensive display panels in far-larger quantities.

    For the record, it took the Wii U 3 years to reach 10 million units sold. It took the 3DS 1 year to reach 15 million units sold.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    klemming wrote: »
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    Expecting Games with Gold right out of the gate seems like a crazy thing to expect, there's few games yet and we should get one or more free forever a month? How would this ever happen?

    With a company with arguably the single greatest library of old games they could give out on the Virtual Console?
    Giving out classic version of games as they release the new version would be a smart move to hype the new releases, too.
    Release Mario Kart 8 while giving out Super Mario Kart, or Mario Kart 64, and so on.

    Games with Gold gives you full retail games though. Thats what would be crazy to expect.

    They will be giving out VC games with the online service (I've heard free for the month, free forever if you keep subscribing, and just free forever, no-one seems to know yet) with online multiplayer added.

    Nintendo has already given discounts on VC games when a new iteration of that franchise releases or just a full retail game when you registered Mario Kart 8. As well as that, the first VC games on Wii U were fifty cents on their month of release. They've been doing close to what you suggested already.

    No we actually know this 100%. the VC game will be free for the month, and that's it. Nintendo has confirmed this.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Possible information on number of units planned for the Switch's first 10 months:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/nintendo-uses-japan-display-as-sole-screen-panel-supplier-for-switch-1484719384
    TOKYO—If Nintendo Co. finds success with its videogame console, Switch, it could brighten the future not only of Nintendo but also of Japan Display Inc., a struggling display maker that won the contract to make the Switch’s screens.

    People familiar with the matter said Nintendo picked Japan Display as the exclusive supplier of the Switch’s 6.2-inch touch-sensitive liquid-crystal display. The Switch, which can be used both as a stationary console and a hand-held player on the go, is to go on sale globally March 3.

    The contract calls for Japan Display to supply three million screens in an initial batch, and the company is gearing up to ship slightly more than 10 million units by the end of this year, the people said. However, the latter figure is subject to change depending on sales, they said. Spokesmen for Nintendo and JDI declined to comment.

    Nintendo has said it would ship two million Switch units in its first month on the market.

    People familiar with the deal said it probably wouldn’t contribute much to JDI’s profit, at least initially. The company’s fortunes remain tied to smartphone makers, including Apple Inc., that buy more expensive display panels in far-larger quantities.

    For the record, it took the Wii U 3 years to reach 10 million units sold. It took the 3DS 1 year to reach 15 million units sold.

    And there's Nintendo's sales expectations.

    I'd say that's potentially doable, especially since the 3DS' first year was held back by the high price.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    klemming wrote: »
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    Expecting Games with Gold right out of the gate seems like a crazy thing to expect, there's few games yet and we should get one or more free forever a month? How would this ever happen?

    With a company with arguably the single greatest library of old games they could give out on the Virtual Console?
    Giving out classic version of games as they release the new version would be a smart move to hype the new releases, too.
    Release Mario Kart 8 while giving out Super Mario Kart, or Mario Kart 64, and so on.

    Games with Gold gives you full retail games though. Thats what would be crazy to expect.

    They will be giving out VC games with the online service (I've heard free for the month, free forever if you keep subscribing, and just free forever, no-one seems to know yet) with online multiplayer added.

    Nintendo has already given discounts on VC games when a new iteration of that franchise releases or just a full retail game when you registered Mario Kart 8. As well as that, the first VC games on Wii U were fifty cents on their month of release. They've been doing close to what you suggested already.

    No we actually know this 100%. the VC game will be free for the month, and that's it. Nintendo has confirmed this.

    Source? I remember a number of pages claiming that it was the worst thing, and then a different confirmation after the fact that stated otherwise (one of the developers said it behaves like PS+ or whatever).

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  • RoeRoe Always to the East Registered User regular
    Possible information on number of units planned for the Switch's first 10 months:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/nintendo-uses-japan-display-as-sole-screen-panel-supplier-for-switch-1484719384
    TOKYO—If Nintendo Co. finds success with its videogame console, Switch, it could brighten the future not only of Nintendo but also of Japan Display Inc., a struggling display maker that won the contract to make the Switch’s screens.

    People familiar with the matter said Nintendo picked Japan Display as the exclusive supplier of the Switch’s 6.2-inch touch-sensitive liquid-crystal display. The Switch, which can be used both as a stationary console and a hand-held player on the go, is to go on sale globally March 3.

    The contract calls for Japan Display to supply three million screens in an initial batch, and the company is gearing up to ship slightly more than 10 million units by the end of this year, the people said. However, the latter figure is subject to change depending on sales, they said. Spokesmen for Nintendo and JDI declined to comment.

    Nintendo has said it would ship two million Switch units in its first month on the market.

    People familiar with the deal said it probably wouldn’t contribute much to JDI’s profit, at least initially. The company’s fortunes remain tied to smartphone makers, including Apple Inc., that buy more expensive display panels in far-larger quantities.

    For the record, it took the Wii U 3 years to reach 10 million units sold. It took the 3DS 1 year to reach 15 million units sold.

    I blame Japan.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    klemming wrote: »
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    Expecting Games with Gold right out of the gate seems like a crazy thing to expect, there's few games yet and we should get one or more free forever a month? How would this ever happen?

    With a company with arguably the single greatest library of old games they could give out on the Virtual Console?
    Giving out classic version of games as they release the new version would be a smart move to hype the new releases, too.
    Release Mario Kart 8 while giving out Super Mario Kart, or Mario Kart 64, and so on.

    Games with Gold gives you full retail games though. Thats what would be crazy to expect.

    They will be giving out VC games with the online service (I've heard free for the month, free forever if you keep subscribing, and just free forever, no-one seems to know yet) with online multiplayer added.

    Nintendo has already given discounts on VC games when a new iteration of that franchise releases or just a full retail game when you registered Mario Kart 8. As well as that, the first VC games on Wii U were fifty cents on their month of release. They've been doing close to what you suggested already.

    No we actually know this 100%. the VC game will be free for the month, and that's it. Nintendo has confirmed this.

    Source? I remember a number of pages claiming that it was the worst thing, and then a different confirmation after the fact that stated otherwise (one of the developers said it behaves like PS+ or whatever).

    I don't have it in front of me but there are multiple sources. One is an interview Reggie did.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    Yeah that mystery has been clearly and dissapointingly explained.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    I took the time to dig because I'd rather do this than work, here's the quote:
    Nintendo’s online service for Switch will charge a monthly fee and one of the incentives is one free classic game “per month.” Does that mean you lose access to that game after a month?
    Reggie Fils-Aime: Correct. It means that essentially you’ve got access to that game for a period of time, and then after the month there’s a new selection. You’ll have the opportunity to buy it, but [after] that month we’ve moved on to another game.

    Paging @Raybies666 so he gets the word.

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    I took the time to dig because I'd rather do this than work, here's the quote:
    Nintendo’s online service for Switch will charge a monthly fee and one of the incentives is one free classic game “per month.” Does that mean you lose access to that game after a month?
    Reggie Fils-Aime: Correct. It means that essentially you’ve got access to that game for a period of time, and then after the month there’s a new selection. You’ll have the opportunity to buy it, but [after] that month we’ve moved on to another game.

    Paging @Raybies666 so he gets the word.

    See that wording is confusing though, since it could also just mean you lose the ability to get that particular game for free. "You’ve got access to that game for a period of time, and then after the month there’s a new selection" could be referring to how the selection changes each month.

    I'd really just like to see Nintendo clearly lay out what they are doing here so there is less confusion around it. It would be nice to see a big blowout of what the eShop and online features all are before launch.

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    I think they think this is cool because many of those classics will have online multiplayer.

    i counter this by saying- I dont care if balloon fight has online multiplayer, most of the ps/xbox free stuff has multiplayer and i get to keep it. Its a value add on the service....

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    It sorta behaves like PS+ but yeah, the wording on their site was accurate. I'm skeptical when Nintendo ignores or obscures certain topics, but when they tell us straight out what's going on and it seems terrible, it's probably the truth. Nintendo is a weird company.

    How big was the Wii U drive? 32gb carts and 32gb system storage seems pretty limiting for developers. First party Nintendo games should be fine but the chance of high profile ports is pretty low. I'm not expecting developers to do much with all the doohickeys in the joycons either. Even Nintendo didn't really use the Wii U pad that much.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    I took the time to dig because I'd rather do this than work, here's the quote:
    Nintendo’s online service for Switch will charge a monthly fee and one of the incentives is one free classic game “per month.” Does that mean you lose access to that game after a month?
    Reggie Fils-Aime: Correct. It means that essentially you’ve got access to that game for a period of time, and then after the month there’s a new selection. You’ll have the opportunity to buy it, but [after] that month we’ve moved on to another game.

    Paging @Raybies666 so he gets the word.

    See that wording is confusing though, since it could also just mean you lose the ability to get that particular game for free. "You’ve got access to that game for a period of time, and then after the month there’s a new selection" could be referring to how the selection changes each month.

    I'd really just like to see Nintendo clearly lay out what they are doing here so there is less confusion around it. It would be nice to see a big blowout of what the eShop and online features all are before launch.

    It sorta is, but the question asked to him specifically says "Do you lose access to that game after a month?" and he responds with "Correct."

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  • shadowaneshadowane Registered User regular
    The WiiU drive was 32gig for the larger one.

  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    I took the time to dig because I'd rather do this than work, here's the quote:
    Nintendo’s online service for Switch will charge a monthly fee and one of the incentives is one free classic game “per month.” Does that mean you lose access to that game after a month?
    Reggie Fils-Aime: Correct. It means that essentially you’ve got access to that game for a period of time, and then after the month there’s a new selection. You’ll have the opportunity to buy it, but [after] that month we’ve moved on to another game.

    Paging @Raybies666 so he gets the word.

    See that wording is confusing though, since it could also just mean you lose the ability to get that particular game for free. "You’ve got access to that game for a period of time, and then after the month there’s a new selection" could be referring to how the selection changes each month.

    I'd really just like to see Nintendo clearly lay out what they are doing here so there is less confusion around it. It would be nice to see a big blowout of what the eShop and online features all are before launch.

    It sorta is, but the question asked to him specifically says "Do you lose access to that game after a month?" and he responds with "Correct."

    Right, but it's possible he misunderstood the question too. Not that I think that's necessarily true, but Nintendo really needs to spell this out a lot clearer than they have.

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  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    I took the time to dig because I'd rather do this than work, here's the quote:
    Nintendo’s online service for Switch will charge a monthly fee and one of the incentives is one free classic game “per month.” Does that mean you lose access to that game after a month?
    Reggie Fils-Aime: Correct. It means that essentially you’ve got access to that game for a period of time, and then after the month there’s a new selection. You’ll have the opportunity to buy it, but [after] that month we’ve moved on to another game.

    Paging @Raybies666 so he gets the word.

    See that wording is confusing though, since it could also just mean you lose the ability to get that particular game for free. "You’ve got access to that game for a period of time, and then after the month there’s a new selection" could be referring to how the selection changes each month.

    I'd really just like to see Nintendo clearly lay out what they are doing here so there is less confusion around it. It would be nice to see a big blowout of what the eShop and online features all are before launch.
    Does that mean you lose access to that game after a month?
    Reggie Fils-Aime: Correct.
    Reggie's not so inexperienced he would have said that without knowing how it would sound.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    How big was the Wii U drive? 32gb carts and 32gb system storage seems pretty limiting for developers. First party Nintendo games should be fine but the chance of high profile ports is pretty low. I'm not expecting developers to do much with all the doohickeys in the joycons either. Even Nintendo didn't really use the Wii U pad that much.

    Standard Blu-Ray is 25 GB, dual layer is 50 GB. This is really not the bottleneck for developers though. You won't see ports just because it's not as powerful as a PS4.

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  • WraithvergeWraithverge Registered User regular
    I keep seeing mention that Disgaea is day 1... it's Day 1 in Japan but they said NA is "Spring 2017". I'm trying to find anything that says otherwise but even the NIS page to order a copy from them says Spring. I'd be OK with a short delay after launch but if it is already localized, I don't understand why there's a difference between regional launch dates.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    I took the time to dig because I'd rather do this than work, here's the quote:
    Nintendo’s online service for Switch will charge a monthly fee and one of the incentives is one free classic game “per month.” Does that mean you lose access to that game after a month?
    Reggie Fils-Aime: Correct. It means that essentially you’ve got access to that game for a period of time, and then after the month there’s a new selection. You’ll have the opportunity to buy it, but [after] that month we’ve moved on to another game.

    Paging @Raybies666 so he gets the word.

    See that wording is confusing though, since it could also just mean you lose the ability to get that particular game for free. "You’ve got access to that game for a period of time, and then after the month there’s a new selection" could be referring to how the selection changes each month.

    I'd really just like to see Nintendo clearly lay out what they are doing here so there is less confusion around it. It would be nice to see a big blowout of what the eShop and online features all are before launch.

    It sorta is, but the question asked to him specifically says "Do you lose access to that game after a month?" and he responds with "Correct."

    Right, but it's possible he misunderstood the question too. Not that I think that's necessarily true, but Nintendo really needs to spell this out a lot clearer than they have.

    No it's pretty clear. the game will be provided for a month, and then will be taken away. I'm not sure how much more clear they can be in the messaging.

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  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    Honestly they were clear in their initial wording. People just have a hard time digesting it because it makes so little sense.

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  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    So, about the charging port being on the bottom, and that making it unable to charge in kickstand mode. Just read a vey good point pointing out that it's probably how the system plugs into the dock in the first place.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    Zython wrote: »
    So, about the charging port being on the bottom, and that making it unable to charge in kickstand mode. Just read a vey good point pointing out that it's probably how the system plugs into the dock in the first place.

    Yeah but the screen should rotate 180 degrees when it's undocked so you can charge it in a kickstand.

  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Zython wrote: »
    So, about the charging port being on the bottom, and that making it unable to charge in kickstand mode. Just read a vey good point pointing out that it's probably how the system plugs into the dock in the first place.

    Sure but it wouldn't be particularly difficult to make the part where it plugs in go a little higher and have the port go a little higher so it's still reachable in kickstand mode too.

    I mean, presumably, maybe there's some weird thing with the motherboard in that thing that requires the port to be nearly flush with the bottom, but I'm doubting it.

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    Zython wrote: »
    So, about the charging port being on the bottom, and that making it unable to charge in kickstand mode. Just read a vey good point pointing out that it's probably how the system plugs into the dock in the first place.

    The design stuff shows a recess so that you can charge it. The units showed off did not feature this recess. :<
    So either it was changed or the early units lack the recess :<

    looks like you need to cut a hole in the table to charge in kickstand mode. No problem.
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    this bit is guaranteed to go through wood, concrete, and even airplane tray tables with ease. Its a much cheaper drill bit than the nintendo branded one as well!

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Zython wrote: »
    So, about the charging port being on the bottom, and that making it unable to charge in kickstand mode. Just read a vey good point pointing out that it's probably how the system plugs into the dock in the first place.

    Sure but it wouldn't be particularly difficult to make the part where it plugs in go a little higher and have the port go a little higher so it's still reachable in kickstand mode too.

    I mean, presumably, maybe there's some weird thing with the motherboard in that thing that requires the port to be nearly flush with the bottom, but I'm doubting it.

    if you look at a picture of the bottom, they likely couldn't do that without making the device a lot thicker.

    Also, yes, the switch connects to the dock though the USB-C port on the bottom.

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLAu113idcs#t=2m30s

    It's qued to the time where Reggie confirms that games are now tied to account and not the system.

    If the time thing doesn't work it's 2:30 in.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    omg yes yes yes yes yes

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    i imagine the packing inside the switch is tight. the usb-c thing kinda stinks, but i'm not really a kickstand kinda guy, so it doesn't bother me much. hold that thing as close to my face as possible.

    it would be nice if the kickstand was flipped 180 and the screen flipped to compensate, but i bet they made that choice because of the joycons sliding on and off the console.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Zython wrote: »
    So, about the charging port being on the bottom, and that making it unable to charge in kickstand mode. Just read a vey good point pointing out that it's probably how the system plugs into the dock in the first place.

    Sure but it wouldn't be particularly difficult to make the part where it plugs in go a little higher and have the port go a little higher so it's still reachable in kickstand mode too.

    I mean, presumably, maybe there's some weird thing with the motherboard in that thing that requires the port to be nearly flush with the bottom, but I'm doubting it.

    if you look at a picture of the bottom, they likely couldn't do that without making the device a lot thicker.

    Also, yes, the switch connects to the dock though the USB-C port on the bottom.

    I'm not sure what you mean. Also I almost googled "bottom switch" at work.

    I don't really understand why you couldn't have a little cut out on the back and have it go in there, like most modern TVs have.

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