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  • ThegreatcowThegreatcow Lord of All Bacons Washington State - It's Wet up here innit? Registered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Special K wrote: »
    Alas, the rare situations of more mag capacity than available ammo ...

    Welcome ... to the Grip Zone!

    Gun marketing only comes 2nd to video card marketing. I used to work in the Archery industry and it was the same. Its all so rediculous.
    hahaha yeeeup, I'm actually figuring out how I can safely ration out my ammo when I take it to the range.

    Also nice setup there man. That's one hell of a package for the price you got. Damn good stuff.

    You as well! That Glock is dope, and it reminds me a bit of the doom marine. Very nice. Let us know how the holosun works. I've never shot a pistol with an optic before.

    That was actually my exact inspiration for the look of the slide and the coloring! As soon as Lone Wolf's color swatch literally said "Battle Worn Bazooka Green" I knew I had to have it.

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  • JusticeforPlutoJusticeforPluto Registered User regular
    I really wish I had more money for say, all the guns.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I've only been to the range once in the past three months. A combination of wanting to conserve ammo and new fatherhood (!!!) has made it difficult to get out.

    I think I'll go next week sometime. I recently put a 2.5x prism sight on my otherwise vanilla AR that I haven't shot in ages.

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  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Today we will paint a mountain that owes us nothing. Registered User regular
    edited October 11
    Doc wrote: »
    I've only been to the range once in the past three months. A combination of wanting to conserve ammo and new fatherhood (!!!) has made it difficult to get out.

    I think I'll go next week sometime. I recently put a 2.5x prism sight on my otherwise vanilla AR that I haven't shot in ages.

    it's been awhile here too, although my two year old is old enough now that dad gets evenings, which works for some hobbies but not this one

    next weekend finally sighting in the irons on my AK and then Loctiteing my 1-6 on it and zeroing that, too

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    I wish it would stop raining today! I don't think I'll get to shoot until tomorrow afternoon.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited October 13
    Went out and did some sighting in. Only the 2nd time firing the AR since I got it. Put 90 rounds through it and sighted in the iron sights. Man that rifle is just smooth and easy to shoot. I am a big fan. Now to get the red dot installed and sighted in, maybe later this week!

    Put a couple 16 round magazines through the pistol. It also is just a joy to shoot. Easy to get on target, barely any recoil and as funny as that grip system shit is, it really is maybe the most comfortable pistol I've ever held or fired, on par with my old Taurus Raging Bull. It ran great, but damn do I need to actually put in time to practice with a pistol. I am bad. I can hit a target at close range, but my rate of fire is super slow and my spread is atrocious. Are there any good pistol drills available online that help teach someone how to improve?

    Overall I'm really pleased. I now have two super functional modern firearms that are fairly cheap to shoot (all things considered) and easy to maintain.

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  • Special KSpecial K Registered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    I now have two super functional modern firearms that are fairly cheap to shoot (all things considered) and easy to maintain.

    Sounds like you've pretty much got it made! Good stuff.

    It's 20:30 CET, it's time for Snap Cap Chat with Special K!

    When I first took my Canik to the range, I had incessant problems. Failures to feed, double feeds, stovepipes, the full gamut. Some basic research revealed that the default spring is intended for use with NATO +P.

    I don't run +P, so I gave Century Arms a call and they sent me a replacement spring under warranty with free postage etc in less than a week. Nice!

    After a good clean and spring swap, it was range time! This time it worked flawlessly. The trigger is outstanding for a "budget" handgun. I compared some cheap-o steel case Winchester against cheap-o brass case Winchester and noticed no difference whatsoever.

    The initial failures made me want to get some snap caps / dummy rounds so I could safely mess about with the cycling mechanism (I definitely still consider myself to be inexperienced with firearms). They would also be useful if my wife ever shows an interest in knowing how to work a gun, and I'd be a bit more comfortable knowing she could to be honest.

    Anyway, I have tried three different types of 9mm snap cap / dummy round in the Canik. Two of them are absolute garbage, but fortunately I can recommend the third!

    First, la garbage:

    A-Zoom: These little gremlins can be yours for the princely sum of about $15 for 5. They start off with a heady note of FtF, before charging into a big fruity "I'm now jammed in your barrel, so best get a dowel or something" with cheeky notes of maybe check your internals for chips and shavings.

    Verdict: I think these are a proxy for more stringent gun control legislation.

    Tipton: Immediate double-feed. Followed by another double feed. Next attempt worked, but then ... wait for it ... you know it's coming ... double feed! Surprise! All the fun of the fair for about $15 for 5 of the little bastards.

    Verdict: Pffft.

    Now, the good news!

    Realistic Snap Caps: These actually work! Hooray! And they are cheaper than the previous two examples, at about $12 for 5 with free shipping (or another $2 for USPS first class). However: They resemble live rounds more closely than the other two options here, so greater care is required. I've covered mine in red Sharpie to further help distinguish them from live rounds, which I'm sure I'll regret when it starts to come off on my hands ...

    Verdict: Just what I was looking for!

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  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    That's kinda odd about the A-Zooms. I've got them in 9mm and .308, and haven't had a single problem with them.

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  • That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
    @ Me If anyone runs across a deal on .223/5.56. I want to do a range day sometime soon but I'm not paying $1 a round for shitty all steel ammo.

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  • Special KSpecial K Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    That's kinda odd about the A-Zooms. I've got them in 9mm and .308, and haven't had a single problem with them.

    Could be a Canik thing, could be a new gun thing, could be both!

    I remember the (relatively few) bad A-Zoom 9mm reviews on Amazon being heavy on "this jams my Glock", so maybe certain models just don't like them. I was definitely surprised at how much trouble I had with both A-Zoom and Tipton.

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Special K wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    That's kinda odd about the A-Zooms. I've got them in 9mm and .308, and haven't had a single problem with them.

    Could be a Canik thing, could be a new gun thing, could be both!

    I remember the (relatively few) bad A-Zoom 9mm reviews on Amazon being heavy on "this jams my Glock", so maybe certain models just don't like them. I was definitely surprised at how much trouble I had with both A-Zoom and Tipton.

    Hrm...yeah, could be a Canik/Glock thing. Of the pistols chambered in 9mm I have, both my Sig P320C and Beretta Px4 run the A-Zoom without issue. The only time I've had a snap-cap FtF was when I tried to get 5-round magazines for my RFB and the risers just instantly gummed up. Figured that was more a thermold issue than the snap-cap since all the 20-round magazines run the .308 A-Zoom a-okay.

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  • Special KSpecial K Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Sig P320C

    What's your opinion of that gun?

    I had it in mind to get one of those or the M&P 2.0 compact, but I ended up with the Canik SF Elite after holding all three. Close run thing, though.

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Special K wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Sig P320C

    What's your opinion of that gun?

    I had it in mind to get one of those or the M&P 2.0 compact, but I ended up with the Canik SF Elite after holding all three. Close run thing, though.

    Personally, it's fine enough. I don't like the grip (it's a bit too big for my hands). The problem is I was looking for a striker-fired compact pistol with a manual safety. If it weren't for the manual safety requirement, I think I'd have preferred getting an HK VP9 instead.

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Special K wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Sig P320C

    What's your opinion of that gun?

    I had it in mind to get one of those or the M&P 2.0 compact, but I ended up with the Canik SF Elite after holding all three. Close run thing, though.

    Personally, it's fine enough. I don't like the grip (it's a bit too big for my hands). The problem is I was looking for a striker-fired compact pistol with a manual safety. If it weren't for the manual safety requirement, I think I'd have preferred getting an HK VP9 instead.

    Get a new grip module!

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  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Special K wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Sig P320C

    What's your opinion of that gun?

    I had it in mind to get one of those or the M&P 2.0 compact, but I ended up with the Canik SF Elite after holding all three. Close run thing, though.

    Personally, it's fine enough. I don't like the grip (it's a bit too big for my hands). The problem is I was looking for a striker-fired compact pistol with a manual safety. If it weren't for the manual safety requirement, I think I'd have preferred getting an HK VP9 instead.

    Get a new grip module!

    They're all too bulbous for my hand. My hands prefer the slim svelte grips of HKs (with the slimmest side panels and smallest backstrap). None of the P320 grip modules accommodate that.

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  • That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
    Anyone have any suggestions for a cheap but decent pic-rail foregrip for my AR? I don't need anything fancy. The ones I'm seeing vary widely in price and I'm leery to buy one that could just break off or damage my rifle.

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Special K wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Sig P320C

    What's your opinion of that gun?

    I had it in mind to get one of those or the M&P 2.0 compact, but I ended up with the Canik SF Elite after holding all three. Close run thing, though.

    Personally, it's fine enough. I don't like the grip (it's a bit too big for my hands). The problem is I was looking for a striker-fired compact pistol with a manual safety. If it weren't for the manual safety requirement, I think I'd have preferred getting an HK VP9 instead.

    Get a new grip module!

    They're all too bulbous for my hand. My hands prefer the slim svelte grips of HKs (with the slimmest side panels and smallest backstrap). None of the P320 grip modules accommodate that.

    Wilson Combat grip module?

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  • SummaryJudgmentSummaryJudgment Today we will paint a mountain that owes us nothing. Registered User regular
    edited October 14
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Anyone have any suggestions for a cheap but decent pic-rail foregrip for my AR? I don't need anything fancy. The ones I'm seeing vary widely in price and I'm leery to buy one that could just break off or damage my rifle.

    @That_Guy https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-556mm-ammo/500-round-case-556mm-55-grain-fmj-m193-imi-ammo-made-israel-military-industri

    65c - ish a round? Not great, but that's the times.

    Grip - Magpul RVG?

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    I got one of the TP9SAs when they first came over to the states about four or five years ago and it definitely had some picky choices on ammo for the first 500 rounds or so.

    After that I could feed it rocks and it would find a way to shoot them.


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  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    edited October 14
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Special K wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Sig P320C

    What's your opinion of that gun?

    I had it in mind to get one of those or the M&P 2.0 compact, but I ended up with the Canik SF Elite after holding all three. Close run thing, though.

    Personally, it's fine enough. I don't like the grip (it's a bit too big for my hands). The problem is I was looking for a striker-fired compact pistol with a manual safety. If it weren't for the manual safety requirement, I think I'd have preferred getting an HK VP9 instead.

    Get a new grip module!

    They're all too bulbous for my hand. My hands prefer the slim svelte grips of HKs (with the slimmest side panels and smallest backstrap). None of the P320 grip modules accommodate that.

    Wilson Combat grip module?

    Haven't seen any in stores to put my hands on the grip to gauge how large/small it is. If I can't get a feel for it and would have to order one blind, I'm not going to risk it. I'll stick with the bulbous grip (right now, the 320C is relegated to backup in my car. 5.7 is my go-to home defense, 10mm 1911 for hiking, and HK VP40 for when I'm working in my office nook.

    EDIT - oh! I forgot one key problem with looking for a different grip module. Nobody makes modules for the 320C that's made for the manual safety equipped assembly.

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Special K wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Sig P320C

    What's your opinion of that gun?

    I had it in mind to get one of those or the M&P 2.0 compact, but I ended up with the Canik SF Elite after holding all three. Close run thing, though.

    Personally, it's fine enough. I don't like the grip (it's a bit too big for my hands). The problem is I was looking for a striker-fired compact pistol with a manual safety. If it weren't for the manual safety requirement, I think I'd have preferred getting an HK VP9 instead.

    Get a new grip module!

    They're all too bulbous for my hand. My hands prefer the slim svelte grips of HKs (with the slimmest side panels and smallest backstrap). None of the P320 grip modules accommodate that.

    Wilson Combat grip module?

    Haven't seen any in stores to put my hands on the grip to gauge how large/small it is. If I can't get a feel for it and would have to order one blind, I'm not going to risk it. I'll stick with the bulbous grip (right now, the 320C is relegated to backup in my car. 5.7 is my go-to home defense, 10mm 1911 for hiking, and HK VP40 for when I'm working in my office nook.

    EDIT - oh! I forgot one key problem with looking for a different grip module. Nobody makes modules for the 320C that's made for the manual safety equipped assembly.

    I mean, Wilson Combat does make the manual safety module.

    I understand about buying sight unseen, but it’s pretty well reviewed as being slimmer and what should be the stock grip. Garandthumb did a good video on the Wilson 320 pistol itself.

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  • That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Anyone have any suggestions for a cheap but decent pic-rail foregrip for my AR? I don't need anything fancy. The ones I'm seeing vary widely in price and I'm leery to buy one that could just break off or damage my rifle.

    @That_Guy https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-556mm-ammo/500-round-case-556mm-55-grain-fmj-m193-imi-ammo-made-israel-military-industri

    65c - ish a round? Not great, but that's the times.

    Grip - Magpul RVG?

    That's a better price than I've seen most places but IDK if I want to buy 500 rounds right now.

    That grip looks decent but a little stubby. Can you get your entire hand around it or do you have to choke up on the handguard?

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  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Special K wrote: »
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Sig P320C

    What's your opinion of that gun?

    I had it in mind to get one of those or the M&P 2.0 compact, but I ended up with the Canik SF Elite after holding all three. Close run thing, though.

    Personally, it's fine enough. I don't like the grip (it's a bit too big for my hands). The problem is I was looking for a striker-fired compact pistol with a manual safety. If it weren't for the manual safety requirement, I think I'd have preferred getting an HK VP9 instead.

    Get a new grip module!

    They're all too bulbous for my hand. My hands prefer the slim svelte grips of HKs (with the slimmest side panels and smallest backstrap). None of the P320 grip modules accommodate that.

    Wilson Combat grip module?

    Haven't seen any in stores to put my hands on the grip to gauge how large/small it is. If I can't get a feel for it and would have to order one blind, I'm not going to risk it. I'll stick with the bulbous grip (right now, the 320C is relegated to backup in my car. 5.7 is my go-to home defense, 10mm 1911 for hiking, and HK VP40 for when I'm working in my office nook.

    EDIT - oh! I forgot one key problem with looking for a different grip module. Nobody makes modules for the 320C that's made for the manual safety equipped assembly.

    I mean, Wilson Combat does make the manual safety module.

    I understand about buying sight unseen, but it’s pretty well reviewed as being slimmer and what should be the stock grip. Garandthumb did a good video on the Wilson 320 pistol itself.

    I'll take a look at them. The one review on the 320 Compact w/ manual safety grip has a guy say it fits his "medium/large hands perfectly," which has me a little concerned since I wear small/smallish-medium gloves.

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited October 15
    I’ve been meaning to get the Wilson combat grip for mine but all of my compact mags have the round peg baseplates and I would have to dremel the ears so they’d seat or buy new sig baseplates because that’s totally a fucking sig Sauer thing to do

    Edit: fuck it, bought the compact grip and 3 new floor plates, will attempt to dremel and at least have the new floor plates if I screw up.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Wooo last two boxes of 9mm target ammo at Bi-Mart. Only 27 cents a round. Time to practice today!

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
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    @Erlkönig

    Just got it today, haven’t shot it. However, it is slimmer, you can get a much higher purchase on your grip, and the texture on the frame is much more positive.

    If nothing else, it does feel better.

    For reference, half my pinky hangs off the bottom on the compact.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Man trying to get that last round into a 16 round double stack mag is a pain in the ass. Going to order a speed loader I think. My thumb is sore now. :P

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Ask me about my scrotalist agenda Registered User regular
    I just don't bother.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    I just don't bother.

    Yea thats how I'm going to operate going forward.

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks The Myth, the Legend, the Bowman, the Shambler FuckerRegistered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Wooo last two boxes of 9mm target ammo at Bi-Mart. Only 27 cents a round. Time to practice today!

    The guy at the Bi-Mart near me just laughed a long, sad laugh when I asked if there was any 9mm or 5.56 in stock.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Wooo last two boxes of 9mm target ammo at Bi-Mart. Only 27 cents a round. Time to practice today!

    The guy at the Bi-Mart near me just laughed a long, sad laugh when I asked if there was any 9mm or 5.56 in stock.

    Yea when I was in earlier this week they had like 1' square signs saying "We are OUT of 9mm and 223/556". It was funny.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Been shooting the heck out of the 9mm. I put 250 rounds through it this week, no malfunctions. I've been luckily scrounging up some 9mm at the local bimart, and have enough to run a 50 round drill a week for the next few weeks. Slowly getting better. I can now hit the broad side of a barn. Going to work on some gun handling drills to get better and getting eyes on site, and drawing and stuff.

    Today though, it was getting shitty this afternoon so I finally took my Witness 45acp that I tore down a couple months ago, got some vinegar and a brass bristle brush and scrubbed off all the exterior rust then re-blued it, using wipe on cold blue. once that was done I rubbed in gun oil on all the surfaces. I did not realize it would turn the blue to black, and it looks fucking sharp now. hopefully it'll resist rusting in the short term. It lives in a gun safe now so I'm hopeful. Wish I had taken some before pictures, oh well!

    after all that I figured since I had the supplies out it was time to give everything a good clean and oil, so that's all done now too.

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    That does look clean.

    As far as hitting the broadside of a barn, I would strongly recommend getting your grip solidified and do a shit ton of dry fire.

    Once I realized how much real estate I can get a hold of on the gun, and how to apply appropriate amount of force into it, it’s been so much better.

    Grip is like 90% of shooting well.

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  • webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    That does look clean.

    As far as hitting the broadside of a barn, I would strongly recommend getting your grip solidified and do a shit ton of dry fire.

    Once I realized how much real estate I can get a hold of on the gun, and how to apply appropriate amount of force into it, it’s been so much better.

    Grip is like 90% of shooting well.

    Ohhh 100%! I've been watching this below videos, and a few others. Found them really useful. Looking back on my shooting history, like 95% of it was just fun shooting days, and almost no serious drill work. Between dry fire drills and weekly 50 round shooting drills, I figure I'll probably start getting better.





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