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The [House] thread and the people who live in them.

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    edited May 2017
    I will pay any doctor, wizard, or mad scientist ten thousand dollars if they can make me not allergic to avocados. Alternatively, I will pay any time travelers one hundred dollars to make the allergy manifest itself in infancy instead of in my mid-20s, so I wouldn't know what I'm missing.

    Jedoc on
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Some immunologists can improve food allergies with repeated treatments and exposures, I have no idea on the legitimacy of that though.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    I'm told that my current allergy treatments will greatly lessen my symptoms, but won't stand up to repeated exposure. Maybe I can throw myself an avocado festival once per year and see how that goes.

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    PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Jedoc wrote: »

    OK, now I want someone to write an app that indexes any address you enter against it's estimated value and returns how many avocado toasts it's worth.

    Hmmmm.

    I feel like getting an app to know or be able to look up the estimated value of any address is an impossibility.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Nah. Maybe if it hasn't changed hands recently, but most sale prices are matters of public record through one means or another, and if there's really no info you can make a good stab based on other neighborhood sales.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Psykoma wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Jedoc wrote: »

    OK, now I want someone to write an app that indexes any address you enter against it's estimated value and returns how many avocado toasts it's worth.

    Hmmmm.

    I feel like getting an app to know or be able to look up the estimated value of any address is an impossibility.

    trulia used to have an api

    zillow has one

    You can look up appraisals and tax estimates via most counties but even that's not super accurate.

    You can get a rough idea anyways

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Psykoma wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    Jedoc wrote: »

    OK, now I want someone to write an app that indexes any address you enter against it's estimated value and returns how many avocado toasts it's worth.

    Hmmmm.

    I feel like getting an app to know or be able to look up the estimated value of any address is an impossibility.

    It should be easy for American properties, since you can look up the last appraised value of any property in the United States at your local county assessor's office website.

    Unfortunately, county assessors uniformly have the unfriendliest, least navigable, most Web 0.5 bullshit design you will find this side of a medical records database. It would take a genuine genius to write an app that could navigate every county's website and come up with a reasonable shot at an answer.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I would like to amend my previous statement to say that in MANY countries it wouldn't be that hard but maybe the us is not one of them

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    pulling data from every county in the US is a PITA

    I have no idea how companies like zillow do it

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    It's fairly healthy.

    And fairly tasty.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    https://catalog.data.gov/dataset

    fucking nuts

    you're better off using zillow's api and accepting that 1000 request a day limit

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Oh, man. I just looked up the assessor's office from my rural home county, and it's...not promising.

    http://www.unionnm.us/assessors-office.html

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Oh, man. I just looked up the assessor's office from my rural home county, and it's...not promising.

    http://www.unionnm.us/assessors-office.html

    yeah some of the more remote counties don't even have a system in place for it, it looks like

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Huh. I think the five people I linked to that page have crashed the public records search. Anyway, I think you can technically find property records on the County Clerk's page, it's just all mashed up with all the other public records like easements and land deeds and mineral rights.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Blake T wrote: »
    This entire conversation, down to the idea that avocados are status symbols of wealth, played out in australia last year, and it is so weird that the exact same thing down to the fruit involved is happening in America.

    I think it was triggered by that rich snob Australian dude who bought up a whole bunch of shit because he got like $40k from his grandpa. He mentioned something about all millennials buying avocado on toast instead of buying properties like he did and the internet went fucking wild on him because he only could do it with his grandfather's money, not his own.

    Not only that, but his dad owns a building company, and his uncle manages property investment funds.

    Yeah, he had no head start on anyone, not at all...

    The story (as he tells it) is that he managed to buy a commercial gym with that $34k, at the tender age of 19.

    I'm willing to bet if any of us walked into a bank with $34k and wanted to buy a commercial property at 19 years old we'd be swiftly escorted out by security.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    I'm just saying.

    We've been working on these avocado jokes for a while.

    http://www.sbs.com.au/food/article/2017/05/22/melbourne-cafe-gives-world-avolatte

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    CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    I've been taking Khan Academy's intro to programming courses, and when one of the practice problems was to invent a product, I had avocado on the mind.

    "If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    we are getting sooooo close to being done with our attic bedroom!

    Actual drywall is done except for maybe 2 s/f above the closet door

    mudding and sanding is about 3/4 done

    all that's left after that is painting, flooring (my GF is paying someone to do that), and base moulding!

    YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS

    she already purchased our bed from tuft and needle <3

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    IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost Registered User regular
    Wait when did we reclassify avocado as fruit?

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    djmitchelladjmitchella Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    We built a deck this weekend -- it's at ground level because it should match up with the bottom step of the existing (raised) deck, which you'd think would make things easier, but in practise was a big pain because the grass isn't level so I had to carve out uneven grooves in there for the joists to sit in: (almost finished in this picture, the even-lower bit by the back door wasn't quite framed up at this point)
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    But after that it was just a matter of cutting boards to length, rounding off the ends with a router to match the bottom step (et al), painting them with end cut seal, and screwing them down. The end result worked out pretty well:
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    (edit: not using enormous images any more, sorry)

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Wait when did we reclassify avocado as fruit?

    was it... was it not?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    @djmitchella you don't live anywhere that has freezing do you? You'll likely need to redo that deck in 2-3 years because of the hoisting effect of frozen ground. (Edit: also I hope it's a floating deck and not attached to your structure in any way)

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    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    djmitchelladjmitchella Registered User regular
    Yeah, it gets cold in winter around here, but I'm not too concerned about that because the bottom wood isn't solidly embedded in the ground, it's just sitting in some troughs -- I'm expecting it to sag a bit in the short term as it is, but when the cold weather rolls around I guess we'll just see how it goes. I'm not super optimistic about the long-term waterproofness of the bottom joists, either, but this was not meant to be a permanent solution, it was what we've done because we wanted a harder flatter surface than the lawn and didn't want to go all the way to a block/concrete patio. (and no, it's not fixed to the house; the existing deck is, though, and that's had no problems so far)

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    okay that sets my mind at ease a bit

    looks good

    the bottom joists should be fine for a bit if they're pressure treated

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    I'm not sure if you did any additional work after that first pic of the deck, but it looks like you may end up with standing water near the house in a few place of that frame. It could just be the way the picture is but it looks like the ground is higher away from the house. I know it sucks because I've done it, but you might want to pull up the decking (good thing you used screws) and grade that so that water flows away from the structure.

    And to add to what bowen said, yeah, that thing is probably going to move. I don't see any posts or footers at all. Even for a ground level deck we attached our frame to posts to prevent it from moving. I did some research and it seems people do install ground level decks without posts sometimes though. Looks nice, I'm just not sure how long it's going to last.

    I had to do quite a bit of post building maintenance on my deck after it was constructed. It was all for drainage issues. Not fun times to be doing in the cold and mud.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    If I was going to do it I'd probably take the old deck part out, dig out a new chunk, add some gravel and footers, and redo the whole deck. Then grade it away from the house.

    Something to consider is add some waterproof membrane up against the house and in this new pit so that even if water sits it can't get in and flows back away from the house.

    Obviously that's a lot of work for a floating deck, but you could have a deck that lasts 40 years instead of 10 (and reduces chance of water damage to the foundation).

    All of that said, it looks great man. I've seen a lot of hack jobs on reddit and it at least looks like you knew what you were doing in regards to structure and support.

    The one big thing that still irks me is that door is so low. It's almost at grade with the ground, there should be a little bit of space from the earth and structure (enough so that the deck is actually your step into the house).

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Wait when did we reclassify avocado as fruit?

    was it... was it not?

    I, uh...I've apparently been wrong about this for three decades and it's throwing me.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Wait when did we reclassify avocado as fruit?

    was it... was it not?

    I, uh...I've apparently been wrong about this for three decades and it's throwing me.

    guacamole, it could be argued, is a fruit jam

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    The JudgeThe Judge The Terwilliger CurvesRegistered User regular
    Thursday: spend lunch priming the tops and edges of walls and ceiling in mud room/laundry/new full bath we're renovating, paint the rest that evening.
    Friday: Put a second full coat of primer on everything, then two coats of ceiling paint. Also threw in a lawn mowing stint because good god it needed it.
    Saturday: Put on two full coats of wall paint. More outside work.
    Sunday: Floor prep, paint touch ups, open flooring boxes, sort pieces into piles and plan layout. Assemble two lower cabinets that will be installed.
    Monday: Lay floor for ten hours.

    Five hours of sleep and back to work today and everything feels sore, but damn if it doesn't look sexy in there now.

    Last pint: Turmoil CDA / Barley Brown's - Untappd: TheJudge_PDX
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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    I got an email today saying that my homeowner's insurance was being automatically renewed, and that the annual premium would automatically be charged to my mortgage. Since I haven't owned a home since December, I was mildly surprised and fairly certain I was being phished.

    Turns out we forgot to cancel our policy when we sold our house, and after a chat with a nice lady on the phone, I should be receiving a $1700 refund check for the past six months of premiums.

    I vow to spend it as frivolously as possible, as is traditional for unexpected windfalls.

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    DaimarDaimar A Million Feet Tall of Awesome Registered User regular
    I think I may be mortgage free. I'm not positive since I still need to find the email address for my account manager at the bank to find out if I need to do or sign anything else and figure out what happens to the property taxes they had been collecting on my behalf.

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    djmitchelladjmitchella Registered User regular
    The door _is_ low to the ground, as is the bottom step of the existing deck; I'd originally planned on having it all sitting on blocks but then we'd have a much bigger step/multiple steps up from the back door, and it would probably also have involved messing with the existing stairs, and would have a bigger step up from the rest of the lawn onto the deck as well. This may possibly all warp and fall apart by spring, I haven't built this sort of thing before so I'm basically crossing my fingers at this point and relying on the fact that, at worst, it won't fall _down_ far enough for someone to get hurt, it'll just twist.

    Building a deck that's a proper distance off the ground is a whole other kettle of fish and needs permits and all sorts of stuff -- at some point the existing deck will need replacing, and at that point we'll need to think about what we really want to do. The new bit just needs to last until that happens, hopefully.

    Drainage shouldn't be any worse than it was before -- the lawn already sloped towards the house a bit and we haven't had problems so far, so I don't think this will change things significantly, though you're right, I should take up the end boards and make it actively slope _away_ from the house while I'm doing this stuff and still have some momentum/energy left.

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    RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    If it is going to be a more permanent thing, then you could do a french drain to take any water that rests in that area away. Especially now that the thing is under a patio.

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    BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    Ah, my last reply posted after you and bowen went back and forth a bit. Sorry about that. I should have refreshed before I posted. Seems like you're aware it won't be completely permanent. As long as those are your expectations then cool. Maybe just work on a bit of drainage if you still have the will and move on.

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    chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Wait when did we reclassify avocado as fruit?

    was it... was it not?

    I, uh...I've apparently been wrong about this for three decades and it's throwing me.

    guacamole, it could be argued, is a fruit jam

    Nah, there's no pectin in it

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    It's more of a chutney.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    chromdom wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Wait when did we reclassify avocado as fruit?

    was it... was it not?

    I, uh...I've apparently been wrong about this for three decades and it's throwing me.

    guacamole, it could be argued, is a fruit jam

    Nah, there's no pectin in it

    not a requirement!

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Wait when did we reclassify avocado as fruit?

    was it... was it not?

    I, uh...I've apparently been wrong about this for three decades and it's throwing me.

    I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that one of the things that defines whether something is a fruit is that it grows on a tree or a vine.

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    chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    chromdom wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Wait when did we reclassify avocado as fruit?

    was it... was it not?

    I, uh...I've apparently been wrong about this for three decades and it's throwing me.

    guacamole, it could be argued, is a fruit jam

    Nah, there's no pectin in it

    not a requirement!

    I think it is?

    NEW FOOD ARGUMENT! NEW FOOD ARGUMENT!
    Sound the alarms! Pick your sides, and prepare your hypotheticals!

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    chromdom wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    chromdom wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Wait when did we reclassify avocado as fruit?

    was it... was it not?

    I, uh...I've apparently been wrong about this for three decades and it's throwing me.

    guacamole, it could be argued, is a fruit jam

    Nah, there's no pectin in it

    not a requirement!

    I think it is?

    NEW FOOD ARGUMENT! NEW FOOD ARGUMENT!
    Sound the alarms! Pick your sides, and prepare your hypotheticals!

    Yeah I guess cooking is more of a requirement for it, but I have a few recipes without pectin somewhere hanging about. If you're going for full on jelly I think it's a requirement. But jam and preserves don't need it.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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