Confirming that my orbs did show up again when I re-connected an Android device. Decided to spend the 14 orbs I had since I'll be playing on iOS from here on out anyway, and managed to get three 4*s in three pulls. Feeling pretty good about that! Peri, Jakob, and Kagero.
Of the three, Kagero seems the most useful by a lot. I like Peri, though, even if she isn't likely to get as much use as Cordelia or Nowi.
Just started this game. Got my first 20 orbs. Pulled a 5 star Marth in my very first try. He overpowers everything in the start with 1 shot. Game is easy now.
I'm raising a Cecilia right now for Takumi hunting. Wish I had a Robin though, a unit I care more about.
Selena seems tailormade for Hector hunting, and she's a 3-4* draw.
Hmm... as for what other 3-4 star units I'd want:
Abel would be a nice red sword hunter right now
Cordelia looks great
Felicia seems like an interesting addition
Camilla the flying bulldozer
Tharja to run the super funtime cheer squad
I'm raising a Cecilia right now for Takumi hunting. Wish I had a Robin though, a unit I care more about.
Selena seems tailormade for Hector hunting, and she's a 3-4* draw.
Hmm... as for what other 3-4 star units I'd want:
Abel would be a nice red sword hunter right now
Cordelia looks great
Felicia seems like an interesting addition
Camilla the flying bulldozer
Tharja to run the super funtime cheer squad
Yeah, I got a Cecilia last week. She does seem like a pretty good Takumi counter. I guess we'll see how things go.
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Is Selena really that good of a counter to Hector? I've got her at 4*, but I didn't know if her stats were good enough to actually eat through his ridiculous DEF and HP. If she is, she just might be a B-team character for me.
Same with Cecilia - apparently she counters Takumi by being able to one-shot him with her weapon advantage against colorless?
Is Selena really that good of a counter to Hector? I've got her at 4*, but I didn't know if her stats were good enough to actually eat through his ridiculous DEF and HP. If she is, she just might be a B-team character for me.
Same with Cecilia - apparently she counters Takumi by being able to one-shot him with her weapon advantage against colorless?
Selena has Armorslayer and Triangle Adept, so she can stack +damage against armored with +everything against green.
lol for real 9-5? what if i made the boss a ranged character who can one hit through type advantage with a healer who slows your movement speed by one so you can never catch her
Note that with Triangle Adept and the Gem Weapons (Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald) it applies the bonus/malus to both participants in combat. So you get hit harder/softer, too. Skilled up, 4* Selena can hit Hector with 185%* of her attack stat, and gets hit by just 65% of Hector's
Haven't checked with the "gives advantage to" weapons/(skills?), but I assume the same. (But only +/- 20%)
*: I think? Armorslayer is +50%, Red vs. Green with Triangle Adept 2 is +35%, but maybe it's multiplicative instead of additive? Pretty sure the Triangle boosters are additive, though.
[EDIT] because I forgot to mention Armorslayer except in the numbers, and to not assume 5* rank 3 Triangle Adept.
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Selena has an Armorslayer, not a Gem weapon
Which is even better against Hector
She's basically his hard counter, but she's not real great against much of anything else
Does someone have a guide about how to be a master baiter? I either have one melee guy in front, who takes the brunt of multiple hits and dies, or get spread out and get defeated in detail with melee against my ranged guys or visa versa
oh fun, i finally got a 5* after like 6 5 pulls. It's a terrible Fates ninja who sucks. Great. This will totally help me compete in the Arena when my team gets oneshot by Takumi and Hector in beginner over and over. Yay. Her weapon has 5 attack. Sure it has a def/res debuff against infantry, but lol not worth.
why do I play gacha games. the real bad rates, plus the total lack of a functional endgame, plus lol 50 stamina and thats it, i think i'm uninstalling this game.
I think the arena is in kind of a weird place right now, they seem to be going with a tier structure so everybody that did well in the first one is in tier 2. I don't think I did terribly great, but here I am sitting in tier 2 with all the megawhales. Once a few more seasons have been completed I think it'll be better.
That said, if people aren't having fun then go ahead and stop. Games are supposed to be fun!
oh fun, i finally got a 5* after like 6 5 pulls. It's a terrible Fates ninja who sucks. Great. This will totally help me compete in the Arena when my team gets oneshot by Takumi and Hector in beginner over and over. Yay. Her weapon has 5 attack. Sure it has a def/res debuff against infantry, but lol not worth.
why do I play gacha games. the real bad rates, plus the total lack of a functional endgame, plus lol 50 stamina and thats it, i think i'm uninstalling this game.
If your big problem is arena, all you need is a 4* Setsuna for Takumi or a 4* decent mage for Hector of which there are many. Or if you're lucky enough to have an emerald weapon red user.
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oh fun, i finally got a 5* after like 6 5 pulls. It's a terrible Fates ninja who sucks. Great. This will totally help me compete in the Arena when my team gets oneshot by Takumi and Hector in beginner over and over. Yay. Her weapon has 5 attack. Sure it has a def/res debuff against infantry, but lol not worth.
why do I play gacha games. the real bad rates, plus the total lack of a functional endgame, plus lol 50 stamina and thats it, i think i'm uninstalling this game.
If your big problem is arena, all you need is a 4* Setsuna for Takumi or a 4* decent mage for Hector of which there are many. Or if you're lucky enough to have an emerald weapon red user.
Robin's also good against Takumi, and he's a three star. Selena and Roy are also good against Hector.
Also, the Narcian map caved, as all must, to the might of Donnel. Well, okay, to the might of ROY and Donnel, and Donnel was pretty much on medic duty, but still. He was a vital part of the team. Combine that with finally getting Lucina after many, many orbs spent, and this was a pretty productive night, even with the repeated three star draws.
(Which meant more feathers for Robin. So that works out too!)
Three star Donnel gets a pullback skill to move enemies into position, a brave lance to rip up reds, and a unique healing skill where he swaps HP with the target. Very handy.
Beat the normal version by killing the archer with Camilla, tanking the hits from the mages and then pulling back and letting the other enemies come to me. Not sure yet if that's gonna work on hard as well.
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Beat the normal version by killing the archer with Camilla, tanking the hits from the mages and then pulling back and letting the other enemies come to me. Not sure yet if that's gonna work on hard as well.
This is how I cleared Hard, actually
Because of Camilla's huge Res, I had Maria buff her Res, move in and kill the Archer, take the hit from Narcian and the two Mages, run back to get healed with 3 HP, Narcian follows and gets counter-killed. Then I had to take care of the mages with Takumi and Robin.
Took like two Stamina pots for me to finally reach that strategy though.
EDIT: And Normal's strategy was "Send Camilla across the mountain on her own to murder everyone without reprisal"
oh fun, i finally got a 5* after like 6 5 pulls. It's a terrible Fates ninja who sucks. Great. This will totally help me compete in the Arena when my team gets oneshot by Takumi and Hector in beginner over and over. Yay. Her weapon has 5 attack. Sure it has a def/res debuff against infantry, but lol not worth.
why do I play gacha games. the real bad rates, plus the total lack of a functional endgame, plus lol 50 stamina and thats it, i think i'm uninstalling this game.
I'm not even going to address Kagero's value as a unit and just say that I do hope you uninstall, and avoid these games in the future, because it has been obvious for a very long time that they have an incredibly negative effect on you.
Beat the normal version by killing the archer with Camilla, tanking the hits from the mages and then pulling back and letting the other enemies come to me. Not sure yet if that's gonna work on hard as well.
This is how I cleared Hard, actually
Because of Camilla's huge Res, I had Maria buff her Res, move in and kill the Archer, take the hit from Narcian and the two Mages, run back to get healed with 3 HP, Narcian follows and gets counter-killed. Then I had to take care of the mages with Takumi and Robin.
Took like two Stamina pots for me to finally reach that strategy though.
EDIT: And Normal's strategy was "Send Camilla across the mountain on her own to murder everyone without reprisal"
Sadly, my Camilla is way too weak for that strategy on hard. She was only able to do 10 damage to the archer.
Oh well. Maybe I'll try and figure out a strategy, but if not, it won't be a big deal. Narcian is incredibly similar to Camilla anyway, so it's not like I really need him.
If this is what the game is going to be like and they expect me to drop enough cash for the S+ tier crap to beat it, I am another huge step closer to gone.
If this is what the game is going to be like and they expect me to drop enough cash for the S+ tier crap to beat it, I am another huge step closer to gone.
I think the events are the good part of the game, but the solution isn't to face roll with your S++ team, it's to figure out the particular challenge of that event and counter it with the right kind of team. I think this event actually requires me to set some of my 5* down and bring in some specific defensive utility folks.
If this is what the game is going to be like and they expect me to drop enough cash for the S+ tier crap to beat it, I am another huge step closer to gone.
No, you just need a good strategy - there are a couple you could use to clear this map, and you don't need 5-star units for any of them.
I expect this particular battle might be a little bit harder than future ones, if only because we haven't had the time to get a decent array of high leveled units. I can think of a few characters I have who could be very effective for this battle, but they aren't even close to being high enough level yet. I'm considering burning some stamina potions over the weekend to level a few of them up.
I went in with characters well over 25, and anyone that enters the red zone gets instantly deleted. High defense, high HP, type advantage, none of that matters. Any red square gets slammed with at least three attacks, and no enemy moves until you enter that area.
It's not that bad. I went in with : 27 effie, 24 maria, 18 camilla (I'm leveling her), 28 Takumi. Camilla did nothing except run and hide, effie did most of the killing when they bounced off her, with takumi getting i think 2 kills.
They look like they are designed around using a few strategies revolving around different 3-4* units at the appropriate level.
This one looks like you're supposed to resistance buff a unit that won't retaliate against ranged and place them on the first square on the left to get the enemy in motion, then pull back and let them come to you. Narcian will fly over the mountain and try to eat your spear users but you can abuse his triangle mastery with a red mage like Raigh that you start with or Sophia who I believe was the first rotating special unit, or absolutely roll over him with 3* Palla, a ruby sword pegasus rider that is triple dipping into triangle advantage against him. Naturally, they at least have to be upgraded to 3* and leveled up.
Henry could be a good choice on this map as a 3* red mage with advantage against colorless and tome breaker but he'll probably kill everyone shooting over the mountain at him and then die to the units that fill their space to keep firing.
I rolled another 5 times - ended up with 4* Kagero, 4* Sakura, a dupe 4* Jagen 3* Robin and another 3* Lyssa.
I think a win just for Kagero (didn't have a decent ninja) and Robin who I am immediately going to raise to 4*.
Who do you think is the better blue (though I'm going to work on both) - Robin or CorrinF? Different uses but still both mages. Robin seems great for Arena as a Takumi hunter. One of those will be my first 5* evolve.
Also - Felicia has a damn good skillset with that resistance buff + resistance damage, then AoE heal on attack. I think I'm going to have to raise her to 4* as well!
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CorrinF isn't a mage. She's a 1 range dragon and her job is to fight first, dropping everyone within 2 spaces ATK/SPD by 5 and her target's RES by 7 and then let everyone else walk over the debuffed targets.
Robin's job is representing team mystic and hunting down Takumi.
Yeah, I'm planning on raising my Felicia to 4* as well.
I think i managed hard by sending in my Abel (cavalry spearman) to attack that swordsman in the upper left, i think only one mage was able to hit me back after that. After that i rushed Abel back, healed him up, and he held the pass while Camilla did the flanking.
Also, my wife just used her third 20-pull. From these three pulls in total: 1 4* character, 14 3* characters. That's so fucking crazy.
Agreed they serve slightly different roles, but still both blue magic damage dealers. I think you answered my question though - they both need to be raised eventually
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I'm having a lot of trouble leveling up my characters. Either they are too high level for a stage and gain no exp or they get one shot by a mage while unable to approach due to terrain, and get no exp.
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Of the three, Kagero seems the most useful by a lot. I like Peri, though, even if she isn't likely to get as much use as Cordelia or Nowi.
Selena seems tailormade for Hector hunting, and she's a 3-4* draw.
Hmm... as for what other 3-4 star units I'd want:
Abel would be a nice red sword hunter right now
Cordelia looks great
Felicia seems like an interesting addition
Camilla the flying bulldozer
Tharja to run the super funtime cheer squad
Yeah, I got a Cecilia last week. She does seem like a pretty good Takumi counter. I guess we'll see how things go.
Same with Cecilia - apparently she counters Takumi by being able to one-shot him with her weapon advantage against colorless?
Selena has Armorslayer and Triangle Adept, so she can stack +damage against armored with +everything against green.
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Pack some Magic damage or Effective vs Armor weapons
Haven't checked with the "gives advantage to" weapons/(skills?), but I assume the same. (But only +/- 20%)
*: I think? Armorslayer is +50%, Red vs. Green with Triangle Adept 2 is +35%, but maybe it's multiplicative instead of additive? Pretty sure the Triangle boosters are additive, though.
[EDIT] because I forgot to mention Armorslayer except in the numbers, and to not assume 5* rank 3 Triangle Adept.
Which is even better against Hector
She's basically his hard counter, but she's not real great against much of anything else
Normal is lvl 25, 5 enemies, no deaths, no lights blessing.
-Award is 2* Narcian
Hard is lvl 35, same requirements
-Award is 3*
Only 3 days to do it too.
why do I play gacha games. the real bad rates, plus the total lack of a functional endgame, plus lol 50 stamina and thats it, i think i'm uninstalling this game.
That said, if people aren't having fun then go ahead and stop. Games are supposed to be fun!
If your big problem is arena, all you need is a 4* Setsuna for Takumi or a 4* decent mage for Hector of which there are many. Or if you're lucky enough to have an emerald weapon red user.
Robin's also good against Takumi, and he's a three star. Selena and Roy are also good against Hector.
Also, the Narcian map caved, as all must, to the might of Donnel. Well, okay, to the might of ROY and Donnel, and Donnel was pretty much on medic duty, but still. He was a vital part of the team. Combine that with finally getting Lucina after many, many orbs spent, and this was a pretty productive night, even with the repeated three star draws.
(Which meant more feathers for Robin. So that works out too!)
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Three star Donnel gets a pullback skill to move enemies into position, a brave lance to rip up reds, and a unique healing skill where he swaps HP with the target. Very handy.
Why I fear the ocean.
This is how I cleared Hard, actually
Because of Camilla's huge Res, I had Maria buff her Res, move in and kill the Archer, take the hit from Narcian and the two Mages, run back to get healed with 3 HP, Narcian follows and gets counter-killed. Then I had to take care of the mages with Takumi and Robin.
Took like two Stamina pots for me to finally reach that strategy though.
EDIT: And Normal's strategy was "Send Camilla across the mountain on her own to murder everyone without reprisal"
I'm not even going to address Kagero's value as a unit and just say that I do hope you uninstall, and avoid these games in the future, because it has been obvious for a very long time that they have an incredibly negative effect on you.
Sadly, my Camilla is way too weak for that strategy on hard. She was only able to do 10 damage to the archer.
Oh well. Maybe I'll try and figure out a strategy, but if not, it won't be a big deal. Narcian is incredibly similar to Camilla anyway, so it's not like I really need him.
If this is what the game is going to be like and they expect me to drop enough cash for the S+ tier crap to beat it, I am another huge step closer to gone.
I think the events are the good part of the game, but the solution isn't to face roll with your S++ team, it's to figure out the particular challenge of that event and counter it with the right kind of team. I think this event actually requires me to set some of my 5* down and bring in some specific defensive utility folks.
Yes.
No, you just need a good strategy - there are a couple you could use to clear this map, and you don't need 5-star units for any of them.
This one looks like you're supposed to resistance buff a unit that won't retaliate against ranged and place them on the first square on the left to get the enemy in motion, then pull back and let them come to you. Narcian will fly over the mountain and try to eat your spear users but you can abuse his triangle mastery with a red mage like Raigh that you start with or Sophia who I believe was the first rotating special unit, or absolutely roll over him with 3* Palla, a ruby sword pegasus rider that is triple dipping into triangle advantage against him. Naturally, they at least have to be upgraded to 3* and leveled up.
Henry could be a good choice on this map as a 3* red mage with advantage against colorless and tome breaker but he'll probably kill everyone shooting over the mountain at him and then die to the units that fill their space to keep firing.
I think a win just for Kagero (didn't have a decent ninja) and Robin who I am immediately going to raise to 4*.
Who do you think is the better blue (though I'm going to work on both) - Robin or CorrinF? Different uses but still both mages. Robin seems great for Arena as a Takumi hunter. One of those will be my first 5* evolve.
Also - Felicia has a damn good skillset with that resistance buff + resistance damage, then AoE heal on attack. I think I'm going to have to raise her to 4* as well!
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Robin's job is representing team mystic and hunting down Takumi.
Yeah, I'm planning on raising my Felicia to 4* as well.
Also, my wife just used her third 20-pull. From these three pulls in total: 1 4* character, 14 3* characters. That's so fucking crazy.
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