In one last gasp try at getting one of the Echoes banner units, I do a summon pull, ends up having 2 red and 1 blue:
First red, 5* ... Seliph?! Ok, nice its 5*, though it is -atk/+res, and I have a 4* version as well with better IVs (+def/-res), but I'm just nitpicking here
First blue, 4* ... Est. Bleh. Already have 2, and defiant res isn't exactly an in demand B skill passive
Second red, 5*!!!!? (a second one!?) ... Sanaki, wooot! My first good red tome user (i've only had Henry, Raigh, and Sophia) pretty psyched about her.
So, now I fully expect to have blown all my 5* red orb luck for at least 2 months, so no Ike for me. ;-)
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i am sorry for your loss of income. It gets hard just seeing like 2 orbs a day and the banner just taunting you with its promises of good pulls. luckily with the ike release we get a new world so i am expecting 15 orbs from normal to lunatic clears. and hoping for some good quests.
It's been a long time since I have pulled red orbs, since I got marth, young tiki, and cain early on. I bet I won't get Ike, but some good skill inheritance reds would be excellent!
you can check if they are past 20 assuming they are not 5* by selecting them to get promoted
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I've got two 4* Ninos and looking to upgrade one to 5* - is there a benefit to merging them before upgrading? I know if I wait there's no stat boost merging a 4* into a 5*, but I assume the boost from 4*->4* goes away on upgrading to 5*?
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I've got two 4* Ninos and looking to upgrade one to 5* - is there a benefit to merging them before upgrading? I know if I wait there's no stat boost merging a 4* into a 5*, but I assume the boost from 4*->4* goes away on upgrading to 5*?
correct when you upgrade the merge bonus is erased
I'm assuming there's no way to check the IV of characters after you've leveled them past level 1 until you hit 40?
Under 5* you can check their level 1 stats after upgrading if they're 20+.
5* yeah check at 1 or 40 only.
You can often have a pretty good guess at ~35, and at lvl 38 you should be locked in. Takes some finagling, though. (Knowing you can only +1 per level, and the stat variance usually being +/- 3 at lvl 40.) Probably still be faster than leveling those last couple of levels.
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There's a weird news message today about "improper use" and how they are going to start banning people. How do you even cheat at this game? I'm a bit stumped at what they could be seeing people doing...
There's a weird news message today about "improper use" and how they are going to start banning people. How do you even cheat at this game? I'm a bit stumped at what they could be seeing people doing...
You...were definitely not around when people were able to cheat and force pull any unit/unreleased heroes/Instantly level to 40/get massive amounts of SP?
Like as soon as FeH was released they busted the hell out of it. It's only until recently they've been stripping online functionality for those dudes, and soon, banning them.
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There's a weird news message today about "improper use" and how they are going to start banning people. How do you even cheat at this game? I'm a bit stumped at what they could be seeing people doing...
You...were definitely not around when people were able to cheat and force pull any unit/unreleased heroes/Instantly level to 40/get massive amounts of SP?
Like as soon as FeH was released they busted the hell out of it. It's only until recently they've been stripping online functionality for those dudes, and soon, banning them.
You mean rerolling until the free pull gave something good? (i.e. The thread title) You could only really do that once though. (once as in, once you got something good, it was still only one or two five star heroes at best and then that's it for rerolling)
Unless you mean something else in which case I have no idea
There's a weird news message today about "improper use" and how they are going to start banning people. How do you even cheat at this game? I'm a bit stumped at what they could be seeing people doing...
You...were definitely not around when people were able to cheat and force pull any unit/unreleased heroes/Instantly level to 40/get massive amounts of SP?
Like as soon as FeH was released they busted the hell out of it. It's only until recently they've been stripping online functionality for those dudes, and soon, banning them.
You mean rerolling until the free pull gave something good? (i.e. The thread title) You could only really do that once though. (once as in, once you got something good, it was still only one or two five star heroes at best and then that's it for rerolling)
Unless you mean something else in which case I have no idea
No he means actually cheating and could force orbs to be whatever they wanted, even unreleased heroes!
Yeah - when you see a +10 Anna in Arena for instance, you know something illegitimate is going on
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Ah, I had no idea people were hacking the game so much. Kind of surprised it was cracked that easily, especially with it being always online (which should just make it super easy to detect that kind of thing)
Ah, I had no idea people were hacking the game so much. Kind of surprised it was cracked that easily, especially with it being always online (which should just make it super easy to detect that kind of thing)
They probably have automated systems that catch some of it, but you never know how much people will alter the code to do something. Sometimes you need to investigate what is happening for a while before you can find a fix.
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60 orbs later and I have a +atk/-def Ike! Which is still 29 def, so I think I'll survive. Dude has 31 neutral speed, way more than I was anticipating.
I'll keep Swordbreaker on him as my Nowi can still fall to Falchions because I went with Fury/Riposte. Given him Hone Atk 3, eyeing Swap or Reposition for movement.
This is the focus that broke me out of being completely FTP. At least it paid off; got my Ike. Also got a 5* Seliph, and a pretty good variety of other units for Inheritance purposes (Barst, Palla, Cain, Hana, and Lon'qu off the top of my head);
Little disappointing that my Ike is -attack, but I think it'll be fine. Makes me want to replace Heavy Blade, which is a little sad, but I'm definitely going to at least try it out first.
About 160 orbs, somehow got ... 2 ikes, a Soren, and a 5 star Alm. Wow. Ok, so Alm is -Atk +Res, but the ikes are -Hp +Spd and -Def +Res. I'll takE it!!
Not sure what I'll do with the second Ike yet. Never had duplicate 5 stars... Is merging worth it?
Heavy blade seems like a top tier inherit. Especially if their fast enough to double. wonder if that would work with brave axe cherche. If not, maybe someone like lucina. Or you could always toss it on a blade tome user
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Managed to get a 5* +HP/-Res Ike. After 3 Stahl's in a row.
About 160 orbs, somehow got ... 2 ikes, a Soren, and a 5 star Alm. Wow. Ok, so Alm is -Atk +Res, but the ikes are -Hp +Spd and -Def +Res. I'll takE it!!
Not sure what I'll do with the second Ike yet. Never had duplicate 5 stars... Is merging worth it?
Remember that when you merge them, any skills the sacrificed one has learned will also automatically be learned on the other one. So you can save a TON of SP by leveling up your lesser Ike, learning his skills (or having him inherit a bunch of skills and learn those), and then merge them.
156 orbs spent and when the rate got up to 4.25 a bunch finally came up with 0 reds, 3 green-and 2 grey. I just absolutely knew it was going to break it, so hey I have a -ATK +SPD Titania now. I did eventually get one Roy and Caeda though. Also a Hinata, two Lon Qus, two Pallas as skill fodder.
Overall disappointing. Titania I guess is a horse emblem tank that won't get doubled, but guard looks so situational it's probably not worth it unless it's for a special map.
Heavy blade seems like a top tier inherit. Especially if their fast enough to double. wonder if that would work with brave axe cherche. If not, maybe someone like lucina. Or you could always toss it on a blade tome user
Heavy Blade has stiff competition in the A slot. You can run it with Brave weapons on Cherche/Effie to guarantee Moonbow on the second hit, but then they're working with (neutral) attacks of 46/48 which isn't too hard to beat, and means they're losing 8/12 damage from Death Blow 2/3, so it's very likely a wash. Obviously Distant Counter is a consideration if you can give up Hector, and Fury is evergreen and particularly good on falchions with their innate sustain.
I think you're right that Blade users are the best recipients.
Last F2P Orb got me Young Tiki outta nowhere, which is fun!
And in the next 35 I got a completely neutral Titania(Literally perfect and only my third neutral ever, first I want to use) and a -SPD +DEF Ike.
So I have 100 orbs left over! I wasn't worried about getting Ike, but I was super scared I wouldn't get Titania, since the other green I have no interest in.
I....kinda want to pull for more Ike's tho. He's actually pretty stupid fast which is surprising as hell, but on the other hand, Alm's sister in 3 weekes and she might be metabreaking.
But more Ike's means more of that busted A Skill and a chance for a +SPD or +ATK variant HMMM. Or not which will probably be the case, if I even pull him.
About 160 orbs, somehow got ... 2 ikes, a Soren, and a 5 star Alm. Wow. Ok, so Alm is -Atk +Res, but the ikes are -Hp +Spd and -Def +Res. I'll takE it!!
Not sure what I'll do with the second Ike yet. Never had duplicate 5 stars... Is merging worth it?
That +SPD Ike is top fuckin tier, super congrats.
He has a baseline 51 attack which beats almost anyone that matters, and with 34 SPD, that's 37 with Hone, which is doubling ALOT of fools.
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First red, 5* ... Seliph?! Ok, nice its 5*, though it is -atk/+res, and I have a 4* version as well with better IVs (+def/-res), but I'm just nitpicking here
First blue, 4* ... Est. Bleh. Already have 2, and defiant res isn't exactly an in demand B skill passive
Second red, 5*!!!!? (a second one!?) ... Sanaki, wooot! My first good red tome user (i've only had Henry, Raigh, and Sophia) pretty psyched about her.
So, now I fully expect to have blown all my 5* red orb luck for at least 2 months, so no Ike for me. ;-)
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Good point - I would love me some Roys. I have a couple people who are ripe for some TA3 but I don't have anyone to give it to them.
I'll have to see what I can do with my 45 orbs + new ones from quests + inevitable guilt-ridden spend-to-win.
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i am sorry for your loss of income. It gets hard just seeing like 2 orbs a day and the banner just taunting you with its promises of good pulls. luckily with the ike release we get a new world so i am expecting 15 orbs from normal to lunatic clears. and hoping for some good quests.
Under 5* you can check their level 1 stats after upgrading if they're 20+.
5* yeah check at 1 or 40 only.
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correct when you upgrade the merge bonus is erased
You can often have a pretty good guess at ~35, and at lvl 38 you should be locked in. Takes some finagling, though. (Knowing you can only +1 per level, and the stat variance usually being +/- 3 at lvl 40.) Probably still be faster than leveling those last couple of levels.
You...were definitely not around when people were able to cheat and force pull any unit/unreleased heroes/Instantly level to 40/get massive amounts of SP?
Like as soon as FeH was released they busted the hell out of it. It's only until recently they've been stripping online functionality for those dudes, and soon, banning them.
You mean rerolling until the free pull gave something good? (i.e. The thread title) You could only really do that once though. (once as in, once you got something good, it was still only one or two five star heroes at best and then that's it for rerolling)
Unless you mean something else in which case I have no idea
No he means actually cheating and could force orbs to be whatever they wanted, even unreleased heroes!
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They probably have automated systems that catch some of it, but you never know how much people will alter the code to do something. Sometimes you need to investigate what is happening for a while before you can find a fix.
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Nah, too clumsy. Just go with "We like Ike!" ;-)
Alm and Marth went down in history as legendary heroes who saved their worlds from destruction.
A lot of the lords are like that.
Ike's rep is just "strongest dude ever."
90 orbs so far and I have added a large number of Laslows, Draugs and a four star Lilina to my ranks.
Wooooo
Edit: looks like it's +hp -def. I'll take that
I'll keep Swordbreaker on him as my Nowi can still fall to Falchions because I went with Fury/Riposte. Given him Hone Atk 3, eyeing Swap or Reposition for movement.
Little disappointing that my Ike is -attack, but I think it'll be fine. Makes me want to replace Heavy Blade, which is a little sad, but I'm definitely going to at least try it out first.
I did get a 5-star Linde and a second 5-star Lucina so it wasn't a total wash, but still..this sucks.
Not sure what I'll do with the second Ike yet. Never had duplicate 5 stars... Is merging worth it?
Remember that when you merge them, any skills the sacrificed one has learned will also automatically be learned on the other one. So you can save a TON of SP by leveling up your lesser Ike, learning his skills (or having him inherit a bunch of skills and learn those), and then merge them.
Overall disappointing. Titania I guess is a horse emblem tank that won't get doubled, but guard looks so situational it's probably not worth it unless it's for a special map.
Heavy Blade has stiff competition in the A slot. You can run it with Brave weapons on Cherche/Effie to guarantee Moonbow on the second hit, but then they're working with (neutral) attacks of 46/48 which isn't too hard to beat, and means they're losing 8/12 damage from Death Blow 2/3, so it's very likely a wash. Obviously Distant Counter is a consideration if you can give up Hector, and Fury is evergreen and particularly good on falchions with their innate sustain.
I think you're right that Blade users are the best recipients.
40 F2P got me nada , which, yeah, okay.
Last F2P Orb got me Young Tiki outta nowhere, which is fun!
And in the next 35 I got a completely neutral Titania(Literally perfect and only my third neutral ever, first I want to use) and a -SPD +DEF Ike.
So I have 100 orbs left over! I wasn't worried about getting Ike, but I was super scared I wouldn't get Titania, since the other green I have no interest in.
I....kinda want to pull for more Ike's tho. He's actually pretty stupid fast which is surprising as hell, but on the other hand, Alm's sister in 3 weekes and she might be metabreaking.
But more Ike's means more of that busted A Skill and a chance for a +SPD or +ATK variant HMMM. Or not which will probably be the case, if I even pull him.
Hmm...
That +SPD Ike is top fuckin tier, super congrats.
He has a baseline 51 attack which beats almost anyone that matters, and with 34 SPD, that's 37 with Hone, which is doubling ALOT of fools.