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  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    I would actually go so far as to say that Bloodborne doesn't have a story. It's just a setting put together for you to experience, that is then barely explained while you move around, doing things because they are there which results in things happening that you don't know why.

    It's a neat setting and what I read about it from the item descriptions is interesting, but it's not actually a story.

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    The DLC is pretty integral to the story. At least to how you get to where the game begins and why some stuff is happening. It might make a little more sense if you go through that, too. But that's only a relative level of 'more sense' considering it's a Souls game.

    If you mean less the story of the world and Yarnham, and more the story of you, the character, it's all there. Just sprinkled around through a ton of dialogue and notes throughout the game, never openly connected.
    The Moon Presence has you stuck in a sort of time loop so it can try to feed off of the Insight and Blood you've collected (or attempt to do Something with you/your power). The same thing happened to Eileen and Djura. And maybe Gehrman? Either way, Gerhman is its prisoner in his Dream (since he is The Hunter). If you choose to give up instead of fight, you get 'killed' and freed from the time loop, and go back to the normal world permanently, just like Eileen and Djura. Otherwise if you surpass Gehrman the Moon Presence attempts to feed on you, and you can wind up as the new Hunter instead of Gerhman...or something else.

    Then you wake up at the start of the game again and see a note you've written to yourself telling you to try again...and it was actually there the first time you played, and you leave yourself more notes throughout the game without knowing it that first time through...

    It's been a while, but I think that's about it for the main character's journey, without getting into all of the history of the world. I'm sure someone will correct me...

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  • ArmorocArmoroc Registered User regular
    The pieces of the story are there for sure. It just takes way too much patience to go thru all of it and piece it together on a multiple playthroughs. Someone on Reddit took all those pieces and put them together as best they could and made a nice story. It's called The Paleblood Hunt. Major spoilers obviously!

    Reynolds
  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Yeah, that's an awesome read. I watched a ton of those 'lore explained' videos too.

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  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Reynolds wrote: »
    The DLC is pretty integral to the story. At least to how you get to where the game begins and why some stuff is happening. It might make a little more sense if you go through that, too. But that's only a relative level of 'more sense' considering it's a Souls game.

    If you mean less the story of the world and Yarnham, and more the story of you, the character, it's all there. Just sprinkled around through a ton of dialogue and notes throughout the game, never openly connected.
    The Moon Presence has you stuck in a sort of time loop so it can try to feed off of the Insight and Blood you've collected (or attempt to do Something with you/your power). The same thing happened to Eileen and Djura. And maybe Gehrman? Either way, Gerhman is its prisoner in his Dream (since he is The Hunter). If you choose to give up instead of fight, you get 'killed' and freed from the time loop, and go back to the normal world permanently, just like Eileen and Djura. Otherwise if you surpass Gehrman the Moon Presence attempts to feed on you, and you can wind up as the new Hunter instead of Gerhman...or something else.

    Then you wake up at the start of the game again and see a note you've written to yourself telling you to try again...and it was actually there the first time you played, and you leave yourself more notes throughout the game without knowing it that first time through...

    It's been a while, but I think that's about it for the main character's journey, without getting into all of the history of the world. I'm sure someone will correct me...

    The last bit in this spoiler is actually pretty cool, and all of it would make me feel better about the NG+ mechanic but i'm wondering how this information is figured out?
    I'm playing offline so I never left any notes. Even if I was online, since those notes are there from the beginning when did I ever place them? Is there anywhere that says you were the one writing them?

    Unless you mean the shiny sparkly notes and not the messenger notes, in which case I still have the same question. If it's a time loop then I guess the first time starting a new game could have actually been loop X, so I don't see myself placing them but then how do we know i'm the one who did?

    And then the stuff about Eileen and Djura, how is that information obtained? I never finished Eileen's questline but Djura's outfit just says he was kind and dumb and stopped being a hunter after old yharnam was burned. The badge and his weapons don't say anything else about him. Where does it say anything about him and a time loop?

    Or is all of this in Old Hunters?

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  • ArmorocArmoroc Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Some of the characters make some remarks after killing you. So... after being cool and not dying your first time around it also leaves you not knowing a small piece of the story to tie it all together. From Software guys!
    Djura for instance taunts you for being part of the "dream" after killing you. I think Eileen the Crow says something too.

    Armoroc on
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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    Djura asks if you still dream. Eileen asks you to say hello to the doll. She also says she won't wake up this time if she dies in the story.

    Most or all of the sparkly notes are left by you in a previous loop, is how I understand it. Translation error. The original Japanese version specifically says the very first note in the very first room is 'written in your own handwriting'. I'm assuming the others with the same appearance are, too.

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  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    That seems like a pretty big goddamn thing to miss in translation. Oh well.

    That's kind of fun at least. Makes NG+ fit more into the whole deal instead of it just being you playing the game again. I'll probably play through Old Hunters on this playthrough still. I did Ashes of Ariandel and The Ringed City on... NG++ I think? Since I didn't want to start a new character to play through that whole damn game again.

    What's less fun is that you can't summon Gascoigne and bring him to go fight himself. BOOOOO.

    Armoroc
  • HeraldSHeraldS Registered User regular
    Yes, keep going! The DLC will help link things together for sure. Also, I'd recommend buying the Future Press guide if you're gonna consult a walkthrough. They just reprinted them so they're like $20-30 on Amazon. They're beautiful and helpful. The DLC has one too that's worth grabbing. Great information on the mechanics and helpful story tidbits.

    If you get through the DLC and still have meaningful questions there's some lore theories I can point you to.

    As far as weapons in the DLC, keep an eye out for the Beast Cutter (by the bottom of the stairs near the first open area with tombstones and beasts) and the Whirligig Saw (hidden path behind the second lamp you find) as those are both STR weapons that will go well with your Hunter's Axe. Look to be about BL80 w/ a +8/9 weapon before you start the DLC.

  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    Think we can take this discussion to the Bloodborne thread? I keep thinking there's something new on PSN when there's 20+ replies. :P

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  • AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    Oh, I didn't know there was one. Figured that since it was a couple years old no one was talking about it anymore. Sorry about that, yeah.

  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    Aistan wrote: »
    Oh, I didn't know there was one. Figured that since it was a couple years old no one was talking about it anymore. Sorry about that, yeah.

    Not a big deal! If anything the main thread will be better because you'll have even more discussion on the game.

  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Do any of you have a favorite Jackbox release?

    Having a housewarming party next weekend and thinking that it'll be a perfect game to just have on my PS4 for some fun.

  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Do any of you have a favorite Jackbox release?

    Having a housewarming party next weekend and thinking that it'll be a perfect game to just have on my PS4 for some fun.
    Jackbox 3 is my favorite, but Jackbox 2 has Bomb Corp (perfect for 4 players). Some people prefer Fibbage (Jackbox 2) over Trivia Murder Party (Jackbox 3). T-KO (Jackbox 3) is the better drawing game, I think, compared to the previous ones. Quiplash is usually the main headliner, and both Jackbox 2 and 3 have it.

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  • chuck steakchuck steak Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Do any of you have a favorite Jackbox release?

    Having a housewarming party next weekend and thinking that it'll be a perfect game to just have on my PS4 for some fun.
    Jackbox 3 is my favorite, but Jackbox 2 has Bomb Corp (perfect for 4 players). Some people prefer Fibbage (Jackbox 2) over Trivia Murder Party (Jackbox 3). T-KO (Jackbox 3) is the better drawing game, I think, compared to the previous ones. Quiplash is usually the main headliner, and all three Jackboxes have it.

    Quiplash isn't in the first one. Bomb Corp is good, but it requires a lot more concentration and paying attention than most of the other games. I personally think that Jackbox 3 has the most casual and fun games.

    If you have PS Plus, there is also the free game "That's You", which is a similar type of game that is centered around taking selfies. The few times we've played it were good times, though a game lasts around a half hour, compared to the usual ten minute games in a Jackbox.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    Jackbox 2 and 3 are a dead heat for me

    Trivia Murder Party and Fibbage are both super rad, and Quiplash is awesome and in both

    I've yet to find a drawing game that is actually fun

  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Do any of you have a favorite Jackbox release?

    Having a housewarming party next weekend and thinking that it'll be a perfect game to just have on my PS4 for some fun.
    Jackbox 3 is my favorite, but Jackbox 2 has Bomb Corp (perfect for 4 players). Some people prefer Fibbage (Jackbox 2) over Trivia Murder Party (Jackbox 3). T-KO (Jackbox 3) is the better drawing game, I think, compared to the previous ones. Quiplash is usually the main headliner, and all three Jackboxes have it.

    Quiplash isn't in the first one. Bomb Corp is good, but it requires a lot more concentration and paying attention than most of the other games. I personally think that Jackbox 3 has the most casual and fun games.

    If you have PS Plus, there is also the free game "That's You", which is a similar type of game that is centered around taking selfies. The few times we've played it were good times, though a game lasts around a half hour, compared to the usual ten minute games in a Jackbox.
    Yeah, I realized my error fairly quickly and edited.

    This is one of those "Porque no los dos" situations, though. I would get both Jackbox 2 and 3. :D

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    3 is the best one IME and Tee KO is great

  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    I like drawful best out of everything by a large margin, which is in the first one and also released standalone

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    @cooljammer00 MLB 17 is $24 if you have PlayStation Plus

  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    cooljammer00 MLB 17 is $24 if you have PlayStation Plus

    I don't have PS+ either. Looking for good deals on that. Also I'd prefer physical over digital if I could help it.

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  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    Billing broke for me again, but in a new and exciting way and even paypal doesn't work. Get your shit together Sony, goddamn.

    Neurotika
  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    I bought Jackbox 3 this weekend because family is in town and based on the previous drawing games was pretty sure Tee-KO was going to flop.

    ...we played 4 games of it in a row and people were actually purchasing the T-Shirts off the site.

    I havent seen my father in law laugh that hard ever, it's tons of fun.

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  • NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    Ok, last week I was able to purchase Neir on the store.

    I go to pre-order MvC Infinite with the exact same payment info and it doesn't complete, wtf?

  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    Yeah, it's just super fucked.

    It failed to process my paypal so thouroghly that paypal sent me an email saying that something was fucked. I managed to make it take my card info correctly for the first time in months, but when I tried to buy the thing it charged my bank account $0.00 and errored out (like, there is actually a charge on account that I can see on my e-statement for $0.00). I ended up buying a card code on amazon.

  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    I tried to preorder the new Senran Kagura game on Saturday, and got an error twice. The game showed up in my library a little later, though so it went through at some point. I don't think you can end up buying a digital game more than once, but be careful on multiple purchase tries anyways!

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    I tried to preorder the new Senran Kagura game on Saturday, and got an error twice. The game showed up in my library a little later, though so it went through at some point. I don't think you can end up buying a digital game more than once, but be careful on multiple purchase tries anyways!

    If anyone can find a way to fuck you over on that, PSN will.

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  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    I pre-ordered MvC:I and it's my first digital pre-order ever.

    It says it unlocks at 9PM tonight...

    ...is it really gonna do that?

    PSN: mxmarks - WiiU: mxmarks - twitter: @ MikesPS4 - twitch.tv/mxmarks - "Yes, mxmarks is the King of Queens" - Unbreakable Vow
  • CenoCeno pizza time Registered User regular
    Are you on west coast? Because yes, if so.

  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    Ceno wrote: »
    Are you on west coast? Because yes, if so.

    Nah I'm on east coast. Bummer, but thanks!

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  • NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    mxmarks wrote: »
    I pre-ordered MvC:I and it's my first digital pre-order ever.

    It says it unlocks at 9PM tonight...

    ...is it really gonna do that?

    Did it go through? I should try again

  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    ForceVoid wrote: »
    mxmarks wrote: »
    I pre-ordered MvC:I and it's my first digital pre-order ever.

    It says it unlocks at 9PM tonight...

    ...is it really gonna do that?

    Did it go through? I should try again

    yeah - but I did it like last Friday.

    (The pre-order theme is possibly the laziest theme Ive ever seen, by the way. Its just a picture of Ultron Sigma. Like, a still picture. No music. No icon changes.)

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  • QuiotuQuiotu Registered User regular
    So, my Persona 5 playthrough is being derailed for once. And it's being derailed by, of all things... Mafia 3.

    Now granted, I liked the first two games, but I heard the third had issues. Maybe I just waited long enough and let them patch the game to where it's adequate, but I'm really enjoying myself. It's not pretty by any modern standards, although the facial capture in the cutscenes are pretty damn nice.

    I've always had a soft spot for games that force you into uncomfortable circumstances, that let you wear someone else's shoes and then not shy away from the experience. Mafia 3 does that, and does so by putting you in the role of a young black man in late-60s New Orleans. The kind of racism and segregation in the game is palpable, and they don't hold back. You're considered loitering if you enter a place that doesn't serve coloreds, white women cross the street or run from you for doing nothing, commit a crime in a nice area like the French Quarter and the police swarm the area within seconds.

    The game perfectly makes the setting something that literally works against you, and it urges you rather easily to be bitter and violent about those folks because of it. It's oddly committed to make the setting true to history, so much so that there's a warning when you start a new game that basically says 'we're not pulling punches, so we're sorry if you're offended, but we aren't taking anything back'. In today's modern political climate where you see more police protests and violence in places like Dallas and St Louis, the game is frightfully on point.

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    I loved Mafia 3 and I played it on release. I had no issues with it save one point where it bugged out and I had to restart the game. Character got stuck in geometry which was pretty hilarious. I think I'm due a replay of it.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited September 2017
    TGS is in full swing. Zone of the Enders is getting a PS4 VR port. It's not the ZoE we'd want, but maybe it'll go that way.

    Also, we have a game with folks coming together from MGS and Armored Core, which makes me a bit excited.

    https://youtu.be/TD-e4QCZglg

    Edit: Also, Final Fantasy IX released today.

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  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    Very interesting. I'm pretty interested in anything that has big mecha in it. I hope it's good. Square's forays into big mecha have been hit or miss (and really, really bad the last few years).

    urahonky
  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    I can't imagine playing ZoE in VR for more than 5 minutes before throwing up.

  • SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    My replacement PS3 is arriving today. Unfortunately, I've not been able to back up my stuff from my old PS3. Turns out the hard drive enclosure I was planning on using to back everything up is apparently not compatible with the system. When I plug it in, the PS3 registers that a USB device has been plugged in, but it doesn't seem to recognize the hard drive (formatted to FAT32) as a storage device.

    It sucks that I can't just plug the PS3's hard drive into the new PS3, register the system with my account, and have it just recognize everything as mine. I suppose if the incoming PS3 had a large enough internal hard drive, I could do that, but that one will only be 12 GB. That thing is getting swapped out with my broken PS3's 500 GB hard drive almost immediately.

  • RandomHajileRandomHajile Not actually a Snatcher The New KremlinRegistered User regular
    SteevL wrote: »
    My replacement PS3 is arriving today. Unfortunately, I've not been able to back up my stuff from my old PS3. Turns out the hard drive enclosure I was planning on using to back everything up is apparently not compatible with the system. When I plug it in, the PS3 registers that a USB device has been plugged in, but it doesn't seem to recognize the hard drive (formatted to FAT32) as a storage device.

    It sucks that I can't just plug the PS3's hard drive into the new PS3, register the system with my account, and have it just recognize everything as mine. I suppose if the incoming PS3 had a large enough internal hard drive, I could do that, but that one will only be 12 GB. That thing is getting swapped out with my broken PS3's 500 GB hard drive almost immediately.
    If you have PS Plus, back everything up to the cloud.

  • SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    SteevL wrote: »
    My replacement PS3 is arriving today. Unfortunately, I've not been able to back up my stuff from my old PS3. Turns out the hard drive enclosure I was planning on using to back everything up is apparently not compatible with the system. When I plug it in, the PS3 registers that a USB device has been plugged in, but it doesn't seem to recognize the hard drive (formatted to FAT32) as a storage device.

    It sucks that I can't just plug the PS3's hard drive into the new PS3, register the system with my account, and have it just recognize everything as mine. I suppose if the incoming PS3 had a large enough internal hard drive, I could do that, but that one will only be 12 GB. That thing is getting swapped out with my broken PS3's 500 GB hard drive almost immediately.
    If you have PS Plus, back everything up to the cloud.

    Yeah, most of the saves are backed up in the cloud, at least, I was just hoping to save some time. My PS+ subscription expired on me last week, but I'm assuming that Sony keeps stuff in the cloud for a little while when someone's subscription lapses. I have another subscription code ready to go.

    Unfortunately, the PS1 and PS2 saves don't get backed up to the cloud.

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