It's okay though, I can hear the Trumples saying, the USA is a net oil exporter and Trump probably thinks that means what the news media thinks it means (it does not mean what the news media thinks it means)
House aides apparently are working to get a similar meeting at the WH.
So...bets on this being a briefing to get a declaration of war?
Congress hasn't formally declared war on another nation since 1941. Without an attack on the US directly or very close ally by a foreign adversary's military I don't see us ever doing it again.
House aides apparently are working to get a similar meeting at the WH.
So...bets on this being a briefing to get a declaration of war?
Congress hasn't formally declared war on another nation since 1941. Without an attack on the US directly or very close ally by a foreign adversary's military I don't see us ever doing it again.
This is how things are normally done and probably doesn't apply to what we're actually going to do.
Senate staff perplexed by unusual White House private briefing on North Korea
The White House announced Monday it would host an unusual private briefing on North Korea for the entire U.S. Senate, prompting questions from lawmakers over whether the Trump administration intends to use the event as a photo op ahead of his 100-day mark.
Yet the location at the White House perplexed lawmakers who have grown accustomed to such briefings taking place in a secure location on Capitol Hill, where there is more room to handle such a large group.
Past administrations have often held briefings for smaller groups of about two dozen or fewer lawmakers in the White House Situation Room. But they have traditionally sent high-level aides to Capitol Hill to hold discussions with larger groups in secure, underground locations.
Another senior aide, who also requested anonymity, said it was Trump’s idea to hold the meeting at the White House.
“I heard this came from Trump himself, that in a nutshell he said, ‘why don’t we have them up here instead?’” the aide said.
Congressional staffers suggested that the briefing’s proximity to Trump would make it easy for him to “drop by” and perhaps take over the briefing.
The image of senators meeting with Trump at the White House on a top national security concern could be touted by the White House as a key moment in the run-up to Trump’s first 100 days in office — a milestone the president has mocked in recent days but that his administration is working aggressively to promote.
This is the most plausible reason I can think of
Cause uh
Is there even like
A secure auditorium in the WH for 100 people
Are they going to brief the senators in the movie theatre
@Hakkekage giant SCIFs are totally a thing. Some buildings are just one big SCIF!
So, uh... the "in any other administration this would be nothing" rule applies in reverse. Calling the whole Senate to a secure briefing would be bad under any other administration, but here it's just new sanctions on a country that already has all the sanctions ever?
I'm not sure I buy that's all, but goddamnit if it is Trump just wants to see all the people who have to come when he rings a bell, like a flock of budgerigars begging for crackers.
House aides apparently are working to get a similar meeting at the WH.
So...bets on this being a briefing to get a declaration of war?
Congress hasn't formally declared war on another nation since 1941. Without an attack on the US directly or very close ally by a foreign adversary's military I don't see us ever doing it again.
This is how things are normally done and probably doesn't apply to what we're actually going to do.
It took the Bush administration months to spin intel enough to convince the Senate to authorize military action in Iraq. As desperate as the Trump is I can't imagine the Senate is anywhere near authorizing military action on a nuclear power.
This sounds like a lame CEO power play. "We have to make them come to ME!"
It's the same reason he does everything he can in the Oval office.
That is just awkward, but sitting behind the Resolute desk tells everyone who's boss.
To be honest, if it was purely a power play he wouldn't have them all center facing towards him. He would have them in the traditional orientation towards the desk that requires them to contort uncomfortably in order to face him while seated.
House aides apparently are working to get a similar meeting at the WH.
So...bets on this being a briefing to get a declaration of war?
Congress hasn't formally declared war on another nation since 1941. Without an attack on the US directly or very close ally by a foreign adversary's military I don't see us ever doing it again.
This is how things are normally done and probably doesn't apply to what we're actually going to do.
It took the Bush administration months to spin intel enough to convince the Senate to authorize military action in Iraq. As desperate as the Trump is I can't imagine the Senate is anywhere near authorizing military action on a nuclear power.
While there is certainly a stronger case for war in NK then there was in Iraq, the simple fact of the matter is that there is no way to execute a war in Korea that doesn't simultaneously piss off every other power in the region and result in countless deaths of people in Seoul and us military personel stationed in the peninsula.
I'd like to think that the senate can see the inherent insanity of such a course of action and tell trump to get fucked no matter which side of the aisle they're seated in.
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House aides apparently are working to get a similar meeting at the WH.
So...bets on this being a briefing to get a declaration of war?
Congress hasn't formally declared war on another nation since 1941. Without an attack on the US directly or very close ally by a foreign adversary's military I don't see us ever doing it again.
This is how things are normally done and probably doesn't apply to what we're actually going to do.
It took the Bush administration months to spin intel enough to convince the Senate to authorize military action in Iraq. As desperate as the Trump is I can't imagine the Senate is anywhere near authorizing military action on a nuclear power.
While there is certainly a stronger case for war in NK then there was in Iraq, the simple fact of the matter is that there is no way to execute a war in Korea that doesn't simultaneously piss off every other power in the region and result in countless deaths of people in Seoul and us military personel stationed in the peninsula.
I'd like to think that the senate can see the inherent insanity of such a course of action and tell trump to get fucked no matter which side of the aisle they're seated in.
Bush was also at the helm of a nation that was still out for blood over 9/11. There is no objective way to spin ISIS as a domestic threat and until NK manages a missile that consistently doesn't blow up on the launch platform there's no argument for preemption there either. As crazy as NK's leadership is I think it's safe to say they'll wait till they're damn sure a delivery system is reliable before they strap a life warhead to it.
This sounds like a lame CEO power play. "We have to make them come to ME!"
It's the same reason he does everything he can in the Oval office.
That is just awkward, but sitting behind the Resolute desk tells everyone who's boss.
To be honest, if it was purely a power play he wouldn't have them all center facing towards him. He would have them in the traditional orientation towards the desk that requires them to contort uncomfortably in order to face him while seated.
You're assuming he's thoughtful enough to come up with that detailed of a psychological play.
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Highly illegal to put weapons in space. Longstanding treaties with basically everybody.
Yeah but N. Korea will have to come to talk to the man who wrote the art of the deal when there is a Death Star in orbit.
Seriously. Counties got nukes and they got so out of control there were several moments in history where Man came within one bad decision to wiping ourselves off the face of the planet. The arms race to put weapons in space would be just as bad. You wouldn't even need nukes. Rocket propelled projectiles of enough mass would more or less hit the ground with such impact that you wouldn't need explosives. The kinetic force would be devastating for the area.
This sounds like a lame CEO power play. "We have to make them come to ME!"
It's the same reason he does everything he can in the Oval office.
That is just awkward, but sitting behind the Resolute desk tells everyone who's boss.
To be honest, if it was purely a power play he wouldn't have them all center facing towards him. He would have them in the traditional orientation towards the desk that requires them to contort uncomfortably in order to face him while seated.
You're assuming he's thoughtful enough to come up with that detailed of a psychological play.
Yeah, Trump may be cunning - a strategic thinker he is not.
In those days, Schwartz recalls, Trump was generally affable with reporters, offering short, amusingly immodest quotes on demand. Trump had been forthcoming with him during the New York interview, but it hadn’t required much time or deep reflection. For the book, though, Trump needed to provide him with sustained, thoughtful recollections. He asked Trump to describe his childhood in detail. After sitting for only a few minutes in his suit and tie, Trump became impatient and irritable. He looked fidgety, Schwartz recalls, “like a kindergartner who can’t sit still in a classroom.” Even when Schwartz pressed him, Trump seemed to remember almost nothing of his youth, and made it clear that he was bored. Far more quickly than Schwartz had expected, Trump ended the meeting.
Week after week, the pattern repeated itself. Schwartz tried to limit the sessions to smaller increments of time, but Trump’s contributions remained oddly truncated and superficial.
“Trump has been written about a thousand ways from Sunday, but this fundamental aspect of who he is doesn’t seem to be fully understood,” Schwartz told me. “It’s implicit in a lot of what people write, but it’s never explicit—or, at least, I haven’t seen it. And that is that it’s impossible to keep him focussed on any topic, other than his own self-aggrandizement, for more than a few minutes, and even then . . . ” Schwartz trailed off, shaking his head in amazement. He regards Trump’s inability to concentrate as alarming in a Presidential candidate. “If he had to be briefed on a crisis in the Situation Room, it’s impossible to imagine him paying attention over a long period of time,” he said.
This sounds like a lame CEO power play. "We have to make them come to ME!"
It's the same reason he does everything he can in the Oval office.
That is just awkward, but sitting behind the Resolute desk tells everyone who's boss.
To be honest, if it was purely a power play he wouldn't have them all center facing towards him. He would have them in the traditional orientation towards the desk that requires them to contort uncomfortably in order to face him while seated.
So he's just a tacky idiot that apparently won't use one of the undoubtedly countless conference rooms he has at his disposal.
Highly illegal to put weapons in space. Longstanding treaties with basically everybody.
Yeah but N. Korea will have to come to talk to the man who wrote the art of the deal when there is a Death Star in orbit.
Seriously. Counties got nukes and they got so out of control there were several moments in history where Man came within one bad decision to wiping ourselves off the face of the planet. The arms race to put weapons in space would be just as bad. You wouldn't even need nukes. Rocket propelled projectiles of enough mass would more or less hit the ground with such impact that you wouldn't need explosives. The kinetic force would be devastating for the area.
OTOH, I'd be quite happy with the level of science funding necessary to create a fully armed and operational battle station.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
What a Fucking asshole.
As a Canadian living in basically lumber land this is going to piss off almost everyone I know...
Its also not going to make a God damned difference so it's solely to throw his "woo 'Merica!" dick around
Just whyyyyy. I don't even. Were Canadian lumber imports really tanking the U.S. economy?
Presumably this is his "retaliation" for the Canadian government allowing Canadian farmers to sell their milk at a more competitive price (due to removing an asinine restriction, which Republicans should love).
Softwood lumber has been a dispute since the 80s. It's "just" pretty typical international trade bitching. WTO had generally come down on the side of Canada iirc.
What a Fucking asshole.
As a Canadian living in basically lumber land this is going to piss off almost everyone I know...
Its also not going to make a God damned difference so it's solely to throw his "woo 'Merica!" dick around
Just whyyyyy. I don't even. Were Canadian lumber imports really tanking the U.S. economy?
Presumably this is his "retaliation" for the Canadian government allowing Canadian farmers to sell their milk at a more competitive price (due to removing an asinine restriction, which Republicans should love).
Could also just be the last person he spoke to before announcing that decision was negatively impacted by Canadian lumber imports.
Given his tendency to take on the last thing someone said to him, his wanting to be seen to be the friend of the "working man" (when it's not overly inconvenient), and him wanting to stick it to someone, that's as good a theory as any.
The housing industry in the US isn't going to take kindly to this tariff. Last time they did something similar, it knocked the prices up for everything from plywood to studs to decks, pushing renovations and new home purchases out of reach for a lot of Americans. While this obviously sucks for Canada (our dollar dropped to a four month low overnight) it's going to impact a lot of people outside of the lumber industry too. Not to mention that it encourages Canada to push softwood lumber in the trade talks that are ongoing with China, as well as to be more resistant to US positions in NAFTA trade talks...
double technically, didn't we not actually start being at war?
Presumably the UN mission is still authorized and no UN member (except DPRK, the targeted belligerent) needs authorization to start shooting again.
The Soviet Union abstained in the Security Council vote for the Korean action and was not an active participant, so the Russian Federation can't legally, under the UN Charter start shooting or helping out either side without getting permission via a vote by the Security Council and General Assembly.
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Highly illegal to put weapons in space. Longstanding treaties with basically everybody.
Yeah but N. Korea will have to come to talk to the man who wrote the art of the deal when there is a Death Star in orbit.
Seriously. Counties got nukes and they got so out of control there were several moments in history where Man came within one bad decision to wiping ourselves off the face of the planet. The arms race to put weapons in space would be just as bad. You wouldn't even need nukes. Rocket propelled projectiles of enough mass would more or less hit the ground with such impact that you wouldn't need explosives. The kinetic force would be devastating for the area.
Sad as it is, I feel there is ~0% chance that we don't already have some variety of this up there. There's all kinds of massive satellites of unknown 'military/intelligence' purposes up there. At the very least, I'm sure a few of them are capable of 'self destruction' to serve as orbital denial devices. There might not be, a 'rods from god' style platform, but I'm sure there are a few spy satellites which are over shielded and fueled such that they could make, and survive a powered re-entry.
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It's actually much worse!
In 2002 the USA wasn't dependent on Canada's oil
It's okay though, I can hear the Trumples saying, the USA is a net oil exporter and Trump probably thinks that means what the news media thinks it means (it does not mean what the news media thinks it means)
Well, he's in good company.
Congress hasn't formally declared war on another nation since 1941. Without an attack on the US directly or very close ally by a foreign adversary's military I don't see us ever doing it again.
This is how things are normally done and probably doesn't apply to what we're actually going to do.
@Hakkekage giant SCIFs are totally a thing. Some buildings are just one big SCIF!
what a dipshit
edit: being in the architecture business, this does not enthuse me
As a Canadian living in basically lumber land this is going to piss off almost everyone I know...
Its also not going to make a God damned difference so it's solely to throw his "woo 'Merica!" dick around
I'm not sure I buy that's all, but goddamnit if it is Trump just wants to see all the people who have to come when he rings a bell, like a flock of budgerigars begging for crackers.
Well the most foreign of foreign policy
It took the Bush administration months to spin intel enough to convince the Senate to authorize military action in Iraq. As desperate as the Trump is I can't imagine the Senate is anywhere near authorizing military action on a nuclear power.
I know it's immoral to wish someone dead, but what about senile? Would wishing for overnight senility be out of line?
Monkey's paw rules say you might already have your wish
It's the same reason he does everything he can in the Oval office.
That is just awkward, but sitting behind the Resolute desk tells everyone who's boss.
Highly illegal to put weapons in space. Longstanding treaties with basically everybody.
To be honest, if it was purely a power play he wouldn't have them all center facing towards him. He would have them in the traditional orientation towards the desk that requires them to contort uncomfortably in order to face him while seated.
He's just the President. You can't expect him to know that.
While there is certainly a stronger case for war in NK then there was in Iraq, the simple fact of the matter is that there is no way to execute a war in Korea that doesn't simultaneously piss off every other power in the region and result in countless deaths of people in Seoul and us military personel stationed in the peninsula.
I'd like to think that the senate can see the inherent insanity of such a course of action and tell trump to get fucked no matter which side of the aisle they're seated in.
Bush was also at the helm of a nation that was still out for blood over 9/11. There is no objective way to spin ISIS as a domestic threat and until NK manages a missile that consistently doesn't blow up on the launch platform there's no argument for preemption there either. As crazy as NK's leadership is I think it's safe to say they'll wait till they're damn sure a delivery system is reliable before they strap a life warhead to it.
You're assuming he's thoughtful enough to come up with that detailed of a psychological play.
Yeah but N. Korea will have to come to talk to the man who wrote the art of the deal when there is a Death Star in orbit.
Seriously. Counties got nukes and they got so out of control there were several moments in history where Man came within one bad decision to wiping ourselves off the face of the planet. The arms race to put weapons in space would be just as bad. You wouldn't even need nukes. Rocket propelled projectiles of enough mass would more or less hit the ground with such impact that you wouldn't need explosives. The kinetic force would be devastating for the area.
Yeah, Trump may be cunning - a strategic thinker he is not.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all
So he's just a tacky idiot that apparently won't use one of the undoubtedly countless conference rooms he has at his disposal.
Just whyyyyy. I don't even. Were Canadian lumber imports really tanking the U.S. economy?
OTOH, I'd be quite happy with the level of science funding necessary to create a fully armed and operational battle station.
Presumably this is his "retaliation" for the Canadian government allowing Canadian farmers to sell their milk at a more competitive price (due to removing an asinine restriction, which Republicans should love).
Given his tendency to take on the last thing someone said to him, his wanting to be seen to be the friend of the "working man" (when it's not overly inconvenient), and him wanting to stick it to someone, that's as good a theory as any.
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We have a trade surplus in agriculture with Canada
It's inconvenient for US dairy farmers. Trade with the US is only "fair" when it's convenient.
I wanna link a clip to the West Wing where they are talking about an invasion of Canada - but I can't find it.
The Soviet Union abstained in the Security Council vote for the Korean action and was not an active participant, so the Russian Federation can't legally, under the UN Charter start shooting or helping out either side without getting permission via a vote by the Security Council and General Assembly.
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And any effort to rescind the authorization would likely get vetoed unless something major changes in NK.
Both stupid and evil, but stupid is the default dialog choice.
Sad as it is, I feel there is ~0% chance that we don't already have some variety of this up there. There's all kinds of massive satellites of unknown 'military/intelligence' purposes up there. At the very least, I'm sure a few of them are capable of 'self destruction' to serve as orbital denial devices. There might not be, a 'rods from god' style platform, but I'm sure there are a few spy satellites which are over shielded and fueled such that they could make, and survive a powered re-entry.