I know that the train's weaknesses to Fire, Lightning, and Holy make for a super tempting target. But you might want to curb that enthusiasm. Acid Rain is a nasty counterattack, and there's a chance of that every time you hit the weakness with a coutnerable attack.
Eh, I found that with decent mitigation up, the counters just helped everyone build more meter. Of course, it can be challenging to get pickup groups to apply proper mitigation.
Vaan breaking the thing's magic or just triple layer magic breaks turns the acid rains into free meter and more SB spams.
Heh, so me and my friends did the 200 train tonight. We had 3 Terras with OSB. They basically did all the damage in the fight (outside of some supports bonking the train) 50k-65k at a time. It was hilarious watching Terra's OSB animation over
and over
and over
and over. We actually wiped twice at <1% because of bad luck too, so many Terra OSBs were cast tonight.
My permanent MP team going forward will pretty much always be the supportive role, unless I just know I'm going to run pubs and want to try to second guess what every team is going to fail miserably at.
Otherwise it's pretty much going to be Setzer BSB with Full Break + R3 Rapid Fire, and Y'shtola with all SBs, Ultra Cure and Wrath.
I've got about 750 mithril and I was planning on going in hard on banners 3, 4, and 5 of the festival. But I just saw that there's a FF11 banner (a game that I love) coming up and that it is introducing a bunch of new characters.
Does anybody know how good the banners are for this event? Would it be worth saving some mithril to pull on this shit?
There have been a couple posts in the past few days discussing the FFXI banner (there is only one for some reason I believe). I would say the value of the banner largely depends on how much you value FFXI synergy and also how much you value %HP medicas on non-healers. I personally am likely to skip it, since I have no attachment to FFXI and I should hopefully have a physical OSB or two to alleviate any concerns about synergy (I already have two mage OSB swords so mage synergy is generally not a problem).
I'm holding out on the FFXI banner if and only if it has Ayame's BSB on it. Which I'm starting to doubt it will, but I'll be more than happy to be surprised about it.
The good thing about Shantotto's LCSB as a weapon is it's a 6* Staff with 162 MAG. This makes a nicely transferable weapon between more of your Mage types than the (soon to be two) MAG swords that are currently available.
The bad thing about Shantotto's LCSB as a weapon is it's a 6* Staff and not a Rod. Pretty much every Mage in the game can use a Rod, but only a few of them can't use Staves, including Rydia, Rinoa, Fujin, and Terra (bad news if you didn't pull her Sword).
Arguably, if you pull the staff, it's never coming off Shantotto in the first place, but if you just wanted that little bit of extra power on a character you prefer, such as Terra, hope you got her sword, because it's never coming back*.
*The next festival in the summer with the EX-mode SBs will have Terra's USB which is marginally stronger anyway. Use all the mythril!
I do like my %Medicas on non-WHMs (I have my eye on Ceodore's Burst), and the medicas onyhst banner have some nice effects (one has Esunaga and damage, and the other has Regenja and Last Stand), but there's other good stuff on that banner. Santotto, for example, also gets her stacking team buff (MAG/RES), Prishe gets a neat BSB that focuses on getting the most out of Monk abilities (and basically sets it up to allow for Lifebane spam), and Lion's BSB is the ATK/DEF equivalent of Vaan's Ark Blast.
I'm trying quite hard to get all my Nemesis X people to 99, just for the extra survival chance. Still planning on running with Vaan/Alphinaud/Edge/Vanille/Eiko, and RW Wall, but I haven't even done the lighter difficulty Nemesis so I have no idea on the flow of the fight, yet.
The easier difficulties of Nemesis are nothing like the final difficulty. The final difficulty runs like clockwork, with some turns being an either/or attack situation, but it will always flow the same way across 7 turns.
The easier difficulties throw some things at you that the hardest difficulty doesn't, and in general is just easier to handle, not feeling much different from any other U++ fight you've done.
Looks like they changed the background color of Bughamut's icon and that's about it. Suppose I'll hang onto it? vOv
It's a (wholly useless) piece of history! We'll never see its like again.
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I wish multiplayer didn't stick you with your character's default sb and remove everything else. Was very embaressed to activate whatever agrias has instead of cleansing strike.
I wish multiplayer didn't stick you with your character's default sb and remove everything else. Was very embaressed to activate whatever agrias has instead of cleansing strike.
I wish multiplayer didn't stick you with your character's default sb and remove everything else. Was very embaressed to activate whatever agrias has instead of cleansing strike.
I've literally never seen it do that.
I haven't had it do it randomly, but the first time I use a character in MP it only loads their default SB. I have definitely forgotten that fact more than once.
Decided I wanted one more shot at Locke/Setzer/Edgar BSBs after all, since I don't see any of them recurring and I have a use for all three. 1/11, dupe Relm's Brush! Ah well.
I definitely did better off the 3 lucky draws and the free Ultros draw than I did on any regular or fest banner, that's for sure. My Cloud turned into a superhero practically overnight, and I picked up Medicas for several realms (I, II, VIII) where I had neither Medica nor Hastega, making those CMs dramatically easier.
Looking forward to the rest of the 100 gem draws, but I'm tapped out of mythril now. Just have enough left to do a dozen or so refreshes in this phase, restocking my Summon/Ice/Fire and getting Celes/Locke/Beatrix/Agrias/Faris from 80->99. Still have 5 MC3s too, heh. I'll probably take at least a couple more people up from 80 during P5; I won't spend refreshes there, but I kind of consider it to be a Gil phase because I have so many extra upgrade mats I can sell.
I wish multiplayer didn't stick you with your character's default sb and remove everything else. Was very embaressed to activate whatever agrias has instead of cleansing strike.
I've literally never seen it do that.
when I beat shadow lord apoc I used Onion Knight and I had his BSB and SSB but not my recently mastered OSB on his list. it's really weird.
I wish multiplayer didn't stick you with your character's default sb and remove everything else. Was very embaressed to activate whatever agrias has instead of cleansing strike.
I've literally never seen it do that.
when I beat shadow lord apoc I used Onion Knight and I had his BSB and SSB but not my recently mastered OSB on his list. it's really weird.
The games saves your characters' SB bar in the exact state as when they went into the most recent fight. If you didn't have his learned OSB assigned on his bar the last MP fight you sent him into, then it wouldn't show up.
It's not that weird; your MP character settings are independent from your SP character settings. You can do a Remove All in SP Party screen and it won't effect your MP roster. So if you add an SB to your selection in SP, it doesn't get added in MP.
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So, thanks to the advice on putting together a mage team, I mastered both the U+ and U++ with the team Shantoto(BSB)/Vivi(BSB)/Serah(Faithga)/Tryo(wall)/Y'sthola(BSB). This was even with Shantoto at level 65, and Vivi at 81.
But now I have a new question. Recently I picked up Cid's Shout, but I keep running into issues trying to fit support and Cid in my teams. How many DPS slots do most people run?
Usually my team is something like:
Firion BSB
Minfilia BSB/TGCid OSB
Beatrix BSB
Tyro Wall
Y'sthola BSB.
And so I keep trying to replace Tyro with Cid(VII), but then I go from wall and breaks to no wall and no breaks(or maybe full break and a break on Firion), and so I'm taking a lot more damage than I'd like. If I do move to
DPS
DPS
Cid Shout
Tyro Wall
Y'shtola/Eiko BSB
what abilities would I give Cid? LS/Jump? BotW/Jump? Or do I give him one of MM/DMT and give Y'sthola/Eiko Gathering Storm to keep up with early heals?
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
It's not that weird; your MP character settings are independent from your SP character settings. You can do a Remove All in SP Party screen and it won't effect your MP roster. So if you add an SB to your selection in SP, it doesn't get added in MP.
SP defaults to throwing Soul Breaks in your list, though.
Decided I wanted one more shot at Locke/Setzer/Edgar BSBs after all, since I don't see any of them recurring and I have a use for all three. 1/11, dupe Relm's Brush! Ah well.
I definitely did better off the 3 lucky draws and the free Ultros draw than I did on any regular or fest banner, that's for sure. My Cloud turned into a superhero practically overnight, and I picked up Medicas for several realms (I, II, VIII) where I had neither Medica nor Hastega, making those CMs dramatically easier.
Looking forward to the rest of the 100 gem draws, but I'm tapped out of mythril now. Just have enough left to do a dozen or so refreshes in this phase, restocking my Summon/Ice/Fire and getting Celes/Locke/Beatrix/Agrias/Faris from 80->99. Still have 5 MC3s too, heh. I'll probably take at least a couple more people up from 80 during P5; I won't spend refreshes there, but I kind of consider it to be a Gil phase because I have so many extra upgrade mats I can sell.
The next explicit opportunity for Mirage Phoenix may be in about six months; the "Super Fest" going on now has the Thief Knife available in a banner, alongside Locke's new Zwill Crossblade, which contains his Fire Chain SB.
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It's not that weird; your MP character settings are independent from your SP character settings. You can do a Remove All in SP Party screen and it won't effect your MP roster. So if you add an SB to your selection in SP, it doesn't get added in MP.
SP defaults to throwing Soul Breaks in your list, though.
I'm guessing the issue is that some people don't use optimize, and so when they go to equip characters they expect the SB's to already be set like they always are in SP. Because if you never use the optimize button, once you have SB's set, I'm pretty sure you never need to go back to that screen.
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
Usually my team is something like:
Firion BSB
Minfilia BSB/TGCid OSB
Beatrix BSB
Tyro Wall
Y'sthola BSB.
And so I keep trying to replace Tyro with Cid(VII), but then I go from wall and breaks to no wall and no breaks(or maybe full break and a break on Firion), and so I'm taking a lot more damage than I'd like. If I do move to
DPS
DPS
Cid Shout
Tyro Wall
Y'shtola/Eiko BSB
what abilities would I give Cid? LS/Jump? BotW/Jump? Or do I give him one of MM/DMT and give Y'sthola/Eiko Gathering Storm to keep up with early heals?
If I wanted to put Cid VII onto your "usual team" listed there, I would probably drop Tyro for him. Default loadout would be something like
Firion Lifesiphon + Breakdown, RM +weapon dmg or Ace Striker/Battleforged/Thunder God
Minfilia Lifesiphon + Full Break, RM +weapon dmg
Beatrix Lifesiphon + Protectga/Shellga, Ace Striker/Battleforged/Thunder God
Cid Lifesiphon + Lightning Dive/Dragoon Jump, Mako Might
Yshtola/Eiko Wrath/Curaja/Ultra Cure + Protectga/Shellga, Dr. Mog's
RW Wall
Requires record sphere on Firion, but his BSB is so damn good I would totally be on board with that.
Usually my team is something like:
Firion BSB
Minfilia BSB/TGCid OSB
Beatrix BSB
Tyro Wall
Y'sthola BSB.
And so I keep trying to replace Tyro with Cid(VII), but then I go from wall and breaks to no wall and no breaks(or maybe full break and a break on Firion), and so I'm taking a lot more damage than I'd like. If I do move to
DPS
DPS
Cid Shout
Tyro Wall
Y'shtola/Eiko BSB
what abilities would I give Cid? LS/Jump? BotW/Jump? Or do I give him one of MM/DMT and give Y'sthola/Eiko Gathering Storm to keep up with early heals?
If I wanted to put Cid VII onto your "usual team" listed there, I would probably drop Tyro for him. Loadout would be something like
Firion Lifesiphon + Breakdown, RM +weapon dmg or Ace Striker/Battleforged/Thunder God
Minfilia Lifesiphon + Full Break, RM +weapon dmg
Beatrix Lifesiphon + Protectga/Shellga, Ace Striker/Battleforged/Thunder God
Cid Lifesiphon + Lightning Dive/Dragoon Jump, Mako Might
Yshtola/Eiko Curaja/Ultra Cure + Protectga/Shellga, Dr. Mog's
RW Wall
Does it make more sense to drop Tyro, or drop one of the DPS? I guess I was just thinking I might be able to start bringing new and exciting RW's
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
Usually my team is something like:
Firion BSB
Minfilia BSB/TGCid OSB
Beatrix BSB
Tyro Wall
Y'sthola BSB.
And so I keep trying to replace Tyro with Cid(VII), but then I go from wall and breaks to no wall and no breaks(or maybe full break and a break on Firion), and so I'm taking a lot more damage than I'd like. If I do move to
DPS
DPS
Cid Shout
Tyro Wall
Y'shtola/Eiko BSB
what abilities would I give Cid? LS/Jump? BotW/Jump? Or do I give him one of MM/DMT and give Y'sthola/Eiko Gathering Storm to keep up with early heals?
If I wanted to put Cid VII onto your "usual team" listed there, I would probably drop Tyro for him. Loadout would be something like
Firion Lifesiphon + Breakdown, RM +weapon dmg or Ace Striker/Battleforged/Thunder God
Minfilia Lifesiphon + Full Break, RM +weapon dmg
Beatrix Lifesiphon + Protectga/Shellga, Ace Striker/Battleforged/Thunder God
Cid Lifesiphon + Lightning Dive/Dragoon Jump, Mako Might
Yshtola/Eiko Curaja/Ultra Cure + Protectga/Shellga, Dr. Mog's
RW Wall
Does it make more sense to drop Tyro, or drop one of the DPS? I guess I was just thinking I might be able to start bringing new and exciting RW's
You certainly could drop any one of the DPS in order to RW new and exciting things - MM/DMT on Cid and Tyro, and give your healer AS/BF/TG to help get meter up faster. There are a lot of ways to build working teams with what you have.
If it was me, I would just not bother with Cid because I hate the animation for Pilot's Steel, to that point that I refuse to use it as an RW even though it's got a shorter cast time than Shout. I am OK with RWing Shout all day every day, even though I have a super stacked Ramza. YMMV!
Usually my team is something like:
Firion BSB
Minfilia BSB/TGCid OSB
Beatrix BSB
Tyro Wall
Y'sthola BSB.
And so I keep trying to replace Tyro with Cid(VII), but then I go from wall and breaks to no wall and no breaks(or maybe full break and a break on Firion), and so I'm taking a lot more damage than I'd like. If I do move to
DPS
DPS
Cid Shout
Tyro Wall
Y'shtola/Eiko BSB
what abilities would I give Cid? LS/Jump? BotW/Jump? Or do I give him one of MM/DMT and give Y'sthola/Eiko Gathering Storm to keep up with early heals?
If I wanted to put Cid VII onto your "usual team" listed there, I would probably drop Tyro for him. Loadout would be something like
Firion Lifesiphon + Breakdown, RM +weapon dmg or Ace Striker/Battleforged/Thunder God
Minfilia Lifesiphon + Full Break, RM +weapon dmg
Beatrix Lifesiphon + Protectga/Shellga, Ace Striker/Battleforged/Thunder God
Cid Lifesiphon + Lightning Dive/Dragoon Jump, Mako Might
Yshtola/Eiko Curaja/Ultra Cure + Protectga/Shellga, Dr. Mog's
RW Wall
Does it make more sense to drop Tyro, or drop one of the DPS? I guess I was just thinking I might be able to start bringing new and exciting RW's
You certainly could drop any one of the DPS in order to RW new and exciting things - MM/DMT on Cid and Tyro, and give your healer AS/BF/TG to help get meter up faster. There are a lot of ways to build working teams with what you have.
If it was me, I would just not bother with Cid because I hate the animation for Pilot's Steel, to that point that I refuse to use it as an RW even though it's got a shorter cast time than Shout.
Also, because it's Cid. It's like Gau. Sure, you can use him, but why would you?
In the game though, it can be tough to squeeze him in. Especially if you have Ramza with Shout already, since he's got a lot more options.
Cid at least has access to Machinist skills, which could be situationally advantageous. I'd switch him out for a DPS personally, but I have his BSB and other SSB so that helps. (Just gotta wait for his MC3 to open up though).
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Usually my team is something like:
Firion BSB
Minfilia BSB/TGCid OSB
Beatrix BSB
Tyro Wall
Y'sthola BSB.
And so I keep trying to replace Tyro with Cid(VII), but then I go from wall and breaks to no wall and no breaks(or maybe full break and a break on Firion), and so I'm taking a lot more damage than I'd like. If I do move to
DPS
DPS
Cid Shout
Tyro Wall
Y'shtola/Eiko BSB
what abilities would I give Cid? LS/Jump? BotW/Jump? Or do I give him one of MM/DMT and give Y'sthola/Eiko Gathering Storm to keep up with early heals?
If I wanted to put Cid VII onto your "usual team" listed there, I would probably drop Tyro for him. Loadout would be something like
Firion Lifesiphon + Breakdown, RM +weapon dmg or Ace Striker/Battleforged/Thunder God
Minfilia Lifesiphon + Full Break, RM +weapon dmg
Beatrix Lifesiphon + Protectga/Shellga, Ace Striker/Battleforged/Thunder God
Cid Lifesiphon + Lightning Dive/Dragoon Jump, Mako Might
Yshtola/Eiko Curaja/Ultra Cure + Protectga/Shellga, Dr. Mog's
RW Wall
Does it make more sense to drop Tyro, or drop one of the DPS? I guess I was just thinking I might be able to start bringing new and exciting RW's
You certainly could drop any one of the DPS in order to RW new and exciting things - MM/DMT on Cid and Tyro, and give your healer AS/BF/TG to help get meter up faster. There are a lot of ways to build working teams with what you have.
If it was me, I would just not bother with Cid because I hate the animation for Pilot's Steel, to that point that I refuse to use it as an RW even though it's got a shorter cast time than Shout. I am OK with RWing Shout all day every day, even though I have a super stacked Ramza. YMMV!
Yeah, I think 75% of my RW list is Shout. I just feel like its getting a little old, and want to change things up a little. More of a variety for varieties sake deal.
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
Cid can fit onto any team except mage teams and there's no reason to be mean to him and say nasty things like "Cid can't do it" because Cid can do it. And don't say mean things like "Cid is an old man" because he's not really that old and that's just rude. And please stop saying "Cid flies rocket ships and that's a dumb thing to do" because it's not a dumb thing to do. Rocket ship flying is a very respectable occupation.
He's a dragoon, and dragoons are rad as fuck and they do awesome damage. On top of that he's a machinist, which means if you need a status effect, Cid is your man. If he is your only source of Shout, he can easily fit onto any team. Easily!
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Vaan breaking the thing's magic or just triple layer magic breaks turns the acid rains into free meter and more SB spams.
Just finished the most recent story patch for FFXIV.
There's a Wardrobe Record that I want to see, now.
Also, a new "default" outfit to use for the main character, if they wanted to add them.
*First action from Nemesis wipes the entire team from full*
Let's not try Infinity Nemesis!
and over
and over
and over. We actually wiped twice at <1% because of bad luck too, so many Terra OSBs were cast tonight.
Otherwise it's pretty much going to be Setzer BSB with Full Break + R3 Rapid Fire, and Y'shtola with all SBs, Ultra Cure and Wrath.
Steam: TheArcadeBear
Does anybody know how good the banners are for this event? Would it be worth saving some mithril to pull on this shit?
The next banner after the fest that people are salivating for is the III banner if they don't have OK stuff and want it, and the FFVII banner.
The bad thing about Shantotto's LCSB as a weapon is it's a 6* Staff and not a Rod. Pretty much every Mage in the game can use a Rod, but only a few of them can't use Staves, including Rydia, Rinoa, Fujin, and Terra (bad news if you didn't pull her Sword).
Arguably, if you pull the staff, it's never coming off Shantotto in the first place, but if you just wanted that little bit of extra power on a character you prefer, such as Terra, hope you got her sword, because it's never coming back*.
*The next festival in the summer with the EX-mode SBs will have Terra's USB which is marginally stronger anyway. Use all the mythril!
Steam: TheArcadeBear
Inquisitor77: Rius, you are Sisyphus and melee Wizard is your boulder
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Bookish Stickers - Mrs. Rius' Etsy shop with bumper stickers and vinyl decals.
The easier difficulties throw some things at you that the hardest difficulty doesn't, and in general is just easier to handle, not feeling much different from any other U++ fight you've done.
Steam: TheArcadeBear
It's a (wholly useless) piece of history! We'll never see its like again.
I've literally never seen it do that.
I haven't had it do it randomly, but the first time I use a character in MP it only loads their default SB. I have definitely forgotten that fact more than once.
I definitely did better off the 3 lucky draws and the free Ultros draw than I did on any regular or fest banner, that's for sure. My Cloud turned into a superhero practically overnight, and I picked up Medicas for several realms (I, II, VIII) where I had neither Medica nor Hastega, making those CMs dramatically easier.
Looking forward to the rest of the 100 gem draws, but I'm tapped out of mythril now. Just have enough left to do a dozen or so refreshes in this phase, restocking my Summon/Ice/Fire and getting Celes/Locke/Beatrix/Agrias/Faris from 80->99. Still have 5 MC3s too, heh. I'll probably take at least a couple more people up from 80 during P5; I won't spend refreshes there, but I kind of consider it to be a Gil phase because I have so many extra upgrade mats I can sell.
Inquisitor77: Rius, you are Sisyphus and melee Wizard is your boulder
Tube: This must be what it felt like to be an Iraqi when Saddam was killed
Bookish Stickers - Mrs. Rius' Etsy shop with bumper stickers and vinyl decals.
when I beat shadow lord apoc I used Onion Knight and I had his BSB and SSB but not my recently mastered OSB on his list. it's really weird.
The games saves your characters' SB bar in the exact state as when they went into the most recent fight. If you didn't have his learned OSB assigned on his bar the last MP fight you sent him into, then it wouldn't show up.
Inquisitor77: Rius, you are Sisyphus and melee Wizard is your boulder
Tube: This must be what it felt like to be an Iraqi when Saddam was killed
Bookish Stickers - Mrs. Rius' Etsy shop with bumper stickers and vinyl decals.
But now I have a new question. Recently I picked up Cid's Shout, but I keep running into issues trying to fit support and Cid in my teams. How many DPS slots do most people run?
Usually my team is something like:
Firion BSB
Minfilia BSB/TGCid OSB
Beatrix BSB
Tyro Wall
Y'sthola BSB.
And so I keep trying to replace Tyro with Cid(VII), but then I go from wall and breaks to no wall and no breaks(or maybe full break and a break on Firion), and so I'm taking a lot more damage than I'd like. If I do move to
DPS
DPS
Cid Shout
Tyro Wall
Y'shtola/Eiko BSB
what abilities would I give Cid? LS/Jump? BotW/Jump? Or do I give him one of MM/DMT and give Y'sthola/Eiko Gathering Storm to keep up with early heals?
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
SP defaults to throwing Soul Breaks in your list, though.
The next explicit opportunity for Mirage Phoenix may be in about six months; the "Super Fest" going on now has the Thief Knife available in a banner, alongside Locke's new Zwill Crossblade, which contains his Fire Chain SB.
I'm guessing the issue is that some people don't use optimize, and so when they go to equip characters they expect the SB's to already be set like they always are in SP. Because if you never use the optimize button, once you have SB's set, I'm pretty sure you never need to go back to that screen.
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
If I wanted to put Cid VII onto your "usual team" listed there, I would probably drop Tyro for him. Default loadout would be something like
Firion Lifesiphon + Breakdown, RM +weapon dmg or Ace Striker/Battleforged/Thunder God
Minfilia Lifesiphon + Full Break, RM +weapon dmg
Beatrix Lifesiphon + Protectga/Shellga, Ace Striker/Battleforged/Thunder God
Cid Lifesiphon + Lightning Dive/Dragoon Jump, Mako Might
Yshtola/Eiko Wrath/Curaja/Ultra Cure + Protectga/Shellga, Dr. Mog's
RW Wall
Requires record sphere on Firion, but his BSB is so damn good I would totally be on board with that.
Sazh and Red XIII do, might be some others.
If I'd known during the FFXIII event that I would eventually be building a crit team, I'd have sought after that SB. Ah well.
Does it make more sense to drop Tyro, or drop one of the DPS? I guess I was just thinking I might be able to start bringing new and exciting RW's
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
You certainly could drop any one of the DPS in order to RW new and exciting things - MM/DMT on Cid and Tyro, and give your healer AS/BF/TG to help get meter up faster. There are a lot of ways to build working teams with what you have.
If it was me, I would just not bother with Cid because I hate the animation for Pilot's Steel, to that point that I refuse to use it as an RW even though it's got a shorter cast time than Shout. I am OK with RWing Shout all day every day, even though I have a super stacked Ramza. YMMV!
Also, because it's Cid. It's like Gau. Sure, you can use him, but why would you?
I still have yet to actually use it.
In the game though, it can be tough to squeeze him in. Especially if you have Ramza with Shout already, since he's got a lot more options.
Cid at least has access to Machinist skills, which could be situationally advantageous. I'd switch him out for a DPS personally, but I have his BSB and other SSB so that helps. (Just gotta wait for his MC3 to open up though).
Yeah, I think 75% of my RW list is Shout. I just feel like its getting a little old, and want to change things up a little. More of a variety for varieties sake deal.
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
He's a dragoon, and dragoons are rad as fuck and they do awesome damage. On top of that he's a machinist, which means if you need a status effect, Cid is your man. If he is your only source of Shout, he can easily fit onto any team. Easily!