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[MST3K] We got movie sign...on November 22, 2018

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    It's got things I like, and things I don't like, but it's pretty faithful

    Also there are a handful of throwback jokes to really old eps, and that's delightful

  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    SabreMau wrote: »
    At least he's not dangling limp like the previous times he's been seen in full.


    Those limbs are way less disturbing.

    I just started episode 4:
    I was in the middle of searching IMDB when they made the Danny from the last movie joke.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Episode 2 had the quickest crack-up so far for me
    WILDERNESSSSSS

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  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Hahaha Episode 5
    Jonah: I'm turning this off!
    Servo: You can't, we've tried that.
    Crow: Yeah, we're made out of those special parts.

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    okay i am watching episode two (watched the first last night)

    i need every episode of this to have a carvel ice cream cake joke

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  • LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    Episode 6:
    Oh hello Jerry Seinfeld.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    One thing I am really appreciating with this revival is I am getting a lot more of the references, if only because they are current as opposed to 1989-1999 during which I ranged from -2 years old to 8 years old.

    I can catch the broad ones of the old episodes, but there's a lot of the more obscure references and gags that totally whiff for me.

    For instance a version of the joke in episode 2:
    where the GnR knock-off dudes are shown and Crow goes GASP! DAVID KOCHNER, WALLACE SHAWN AND BRIAN POSEHN?!
    probably flown right over my head with their original series equivalents

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    I wasn't particularly looking forward to this because I have a strong personal dislike of Jonah Rah

    but

    I've watched 2 episodes now and they got the right things right. Jonah and the Bots don't really have established personalities yet, and I don't care about them the way I cared about Joel or Mike or the original bots.. but it's been 2 episodes.

    The format is so fucking good that even without that stuff it feels like coming home. And they get the little things right - The first "WE GOT MOVIE SIGN" made me smile reflexively and I got excited as I realized PUSH THE BUTTON was coming.

    The new Love theme is also quite good - a perfect mix of old and new.

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  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    One thing I am really appreciating with this revival is I am getting a lot more of the references, if only because they are current as opposed to 1989-1999 during which I ranged from -2 years old to 8 years old.

    I can catch the broad ones of the old episodes, but there's a lot of the more obscure references and gags that totally whiff for me.

    For instance a version of the joke in episode 2:
    where the GnR knock-off dudes are shown and Crow goes GASP! DAVID KOCHNER, WALLACE SHAWN AND BRIAN POSEHN?!
    probably flown right over my head with their original series equivalents

    Like

    Okay this is the full video which ain't kosher. It's the scene from the end of Warrior of the Lost World with, like, 30 celebrity references in one.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    The invention exchanges are maybe the least desired element to bring back for the new one
    Is this a one time bit for the premiere or are these going to continue

  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    i'm actually kinda glad they are back

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Prop comedy just doesn't do anything for me
    I know that was Joel's thing so, that's cool and all that he included it in the old show, but here it just seems like they're doing it because the old one did

    Whatever, it's easy to skip I guess

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Prop comedy just doesn't do anything for me
    I know that was Joel's thing so, that's cool and all that he included it in the old show, but here it just seems like they're doing it because the old one did

    Whatever, it's easy to skip I guess

    The one in the 2nd episode is genuinely very good

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  • WeedLordVegetaWeedLordVegeta Registered User regular
    Worst case: this is a pretty good blueprint for the follow up season that I believe is already confirmed

    If they can throttle the goof ratio back a bit it could probably stand out amongst the series' history as some of the best (though I might say a couple s11 episodes are already in that conversation)

  • rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    I haven't watched yet but it's crazy to me that too many jokes apppears to be the biggest complaint! At least that's a good easy thing to fix. I guess they just need to let the movies be awful and funny on their own a bit huh?

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Welp my two friends who are enormous MST3K fans despise this version of the show, so now I'm gonna have to hear them talk shit about it for the rest of time

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    I haven't watched yet but it's crazy to me that too many jokes apppears to be the biggest complaint! At least that's a good easy thing to fix. I guess they just need to let the movies be awful and funny on their own a bit huh?

    The issue with the pace of the jokes is it dosen't allow for them to react to each other very much. It's not that it never happens but too much of the time it feels like they are just racing eachother to get another joke out.

    They've said in interviews that they deliberately wanted to avoid dead time that would happen in some older episodes, but I hope they reconsider because without that we don't get moments like this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0_f5fkrCTA

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    rhylith wrote: »
    I haven't watched yet but it's crazy to me that too many jokes apppears to be the biggest complaint! At least that's a good easy thing to fix. I guess they just need to let the movies be awful and funny on their own a bit huh?

    It isnt too many jokes that is the problem. There are seriously periods of time where the cast is almost tripping over themselves to get a line out as fast as possible because the cue for the next riff is coming. And there will be like 5 minute long strectches where they're nearly breathless from firing off riffs back to back as quick as they can.

    For the most part the movies get room to breathe, but most episodes so far have had at least a couple of these periods and they really are quite jarring and not particularly funny.

  • DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    rhylith wrote: »
    I haven't watched yet but it's crazy to me that too many jokes apppears to be the biggest complaint! At least that's a good easy thing to fix. I guess they just need to let the movies be awful and funny on their own a bit huh?

    Just space out the jokes in the writing.

  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    i skipped ahead to carnival magic

    i am very glad i did this

    this movie is perfect mst3k fuel

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Knob wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    I haven't watched yet but it's crazy to me that too many jokes apppears to be the biggest complaint! At least that's a good easy thing to fix. I guess they just need to let the movies be awful and funny on their own a bit huh?

    It isnt too many jokes that is the problem. There are seriously periods of time where the cast is almost tripping over themselves to get a line out as fast as possible because the cue for the next riff is coming. And there will be like 5 minute long strectches where they're nearly breathless from firing off riffs back to back as quick as they can.

    For the most part the movies get room to breathe, but most episodes so far have had at least a couple of these periods and they really are quite jarring and not particularly funny.

    Yeah, and I'm pretty sure a significant part of their process (if not the whole thing, I don't actually know if they're live riffing when they film the silhouettes) is ADR, so they can cram in even more riffs after the fact

    They cram them in so tight that numerous times now, I've noticed that they've had to start saying the joke even before I've had time to process the image on screen that they're joking about, and before I've had time to process how funny that joke was, they're telling another one

    I mean, even Airplane had a more deliberate pace

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    I actually didn't know that Korea also made 60's giant monster movies.

  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    Everybody got into the giant monster game at some point. Even North Korea, one of the Kims kidnapped a director to get him to make it.

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  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Rapid-fire non-stop riffing is a signature of Elliot Kalan (he's had some absolutely incredible tears on The Flophouse) so I'm not really surprised the pacing is what it is, but I really do hope they find a better balance in the future because I don't feel like it works as well here as it does on his podcast.

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    I'm just thankful that Kalan isn't in the jumpsuit. I feel like I've run back to back marathons while listening to him.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    Rapid-fire non-stop riffing is a signature of Elliot Kalan (he's had some absolutely incredible tears on The Flophouse) so I'm not really surprised the pacing is what it is, but I really do hope they find a better balance in the future because I don't feel like it works as well here as it does on his podcast.

    See, in the case of the Flophouse, it's clearly live, off the dome, improv stuff, and that's way less grating to me? Because it might be a mile-a-minute, but there's humans reacting to him and him reacting to himself, so it feels natural

    The stuff in this new season doesn't work the same way

    And I'm sounding way down on it, but I genuinely like the show! I think a lot of the host segments are powerfully lame, but the show is still as funny and charming as its ever been

    It's just not reaching the highs that I know it's capable of

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  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    I think it'll flow better over time if they get more seasons

  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    JayKaos wrote: »
    Everybody got into the giant monster game at some point. Even North Korea, one of the Kims kidnapped a director to get him to make it.

    So you're saying every country has a monster?

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Prop comedy just doesn't do anything for me
    I know that was Joel's thing so, that's cool and all that he included it in the old show, but here it just seems like they're doing it because the old one did

    Whatever, it's easy to skip I guess

    The one in the 2nd episode is genuinely very good

    I very much disagree
    I have no idea what I was supposed to get out of that

  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Prop comedy just doesn't do anything for me
    I know that was Joel's thing so, that's cool and all that he included it in the old show, but here it just seems like they're doing it because the old one did

    Whatever, it's easy to skip I guess

    The one in the 2nd episode is genuinely very good

    I very much disagree
    I have no idea what I was supposed to get out of that

    I like the one from episode 4!

  • PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    I'm watching the first episode. I had never watched the original series so I didn't really know what I was getting into.
    I wish they would have improved their timings, sometimes it seemed like the riffs were happening at the same time or even before what they were riffing on was showed on film.
    The numbers sequence is just annoying and I feel as though it seems like an artifact of the show being designed for regular tv.
    the songs are nice.
    The two robots' voices are pretty indistinguishable I find.

    I think it's a decent show. I'm not super hooked into it, but I think I'll keep watching while exercising.

  • Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    It is so weird watching MST3K and having a joke reference something in this century.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    First episode is pretty good so far!

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Episode 3
    Tom lifting the rocket was fantastic

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  • Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    edited April 2017
    okay jumped around again because plans fell through

    starcrash may be one of my favorite episodes of the whole series?

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Beast of hollow Mountain is pretty good

  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Yeah anyone that hasn't seen Pulgosauri isn't really missing anything. It's really, really fucking long.

  • PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    are all b-movies monster films?

  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    Psykoma wrote: »
    are all b-movies monster films?

    No but all monster films are b-movies

  • WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    Oh god

    Starcrash is so atrociously bad at everything

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