Club PA 2.0 has arrived! If you'd like to access some extra PA content and help support the forums, check it out at patreon.com/ClubPA
The image size limit has been raised to 1mb! Anything larger than that should be linked to. This is a HARD limit, please do not abuse it.
Our new Indie Games subforum is now open for business in G&T. Go and check it out, you might land a code for a free game. If you're developing an indie game and want to post about it, follow these directions. If you don't, he'll break your legs! Hahaha! Seriously though.
Our rules have been updated and given their own forum. Go and look at them! They are nice, and there may be new ones that you didn't know about! Hooray for rules! Hooray for The System! Hooray for Conforming!

LGBT protections: Trump memo seeks trans erasure

1161718192022»

Posts

  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    I think what AD was getting at is that "not having this protection in place makes me far, far more likely to resist arrest" and "this will kill people, by design" go together in a way you had perhaps not considered.

    Gennenalyse RuebenArbitraryDescriptoriTunesIsEvil
  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) I want to cut to the feelingRegistered User regular
    Doobh wrote: »
    Does anyone know if state prisons tend to follow the federal guidelines on this stuff? Are Indiana prisons, for example, about to get a lot shittier.for trans inmates or were there never any protections to take away?
    Doobh wrote: »
    tynic wrote: »
    I don't have any words for this



    Jon Cooper is the chairman of the Democratic Coalition

    not having this protection in place makes me far, far more likely to resist arrest

    Not having this protection in place makes me far, far more adamant that you do not do that, because that will only increase the likelihood and duration of your need for what is no longer there.
    this will kill people, by design

    note that I did not ask for advice

    can we drop this tangent, now

    or is this "tell a trans woman how to feel about legislation designed to harm them" day

    I am streamer, destroyer of worlds. [M, Tu, W, F: 2-6 pm EST] and [Saturday: 3-8 pm EST]
    Twitter
    MegaMekTetraNitroCubaneZilla360YamiB.jungleroomxmysticjuicernaengwen
  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Tempers are high and I think we're probably both more mad about the fucking stupid dangerous shit that's coming from DC right now so sure.

    DoobhMrMister
  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Conservatives are mad the NAFTA modification contains protections for LGBT workers because of course they are.

    https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/11/16/house-conservatives-lgbt-protection-trade-pact-977288?__twitter_impression=true
    Protections in the new North American trade pact for LGBTQ people are roiling conservative lawmakers in the House, who are urging President Donald Trump to rescind them.

    They are displeased that the new United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement contains requirements that workers be protected from discrimination on the basis of sex, including sexual orientation and gender identity.
    The LGBT provisions were a Canadian priority — part of the so-called progressive trade agenda championed by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and described as a “big win” by his government. And the Trudeau government already is less than enthusiastic about entering the agreement while steel tariffs remain in place. Canada’s ambassador to Washington joked in a recent interview with POLITICO that the country might sign the pact with a “bag over its head.”

    It’s unclear whether the LGBT clauses even have real teeth. Both Canada and the U.S. agree it wouldn’t require a new law.

    But it’s unprecedented language in a U.S. trade agreement.

    monikerL Ron HowardMartini_PhilosopherBandableZilla360Fallout2manDarkPrimusemp123AimElldrenMan in the MistsGennenalyse RuebenYoutubeShadowfirenever dieBrodyA Kobold's KoboldnaengwenRear Admiral Choco
  • AtomikaAtomika not a robot. does not eat bugs!Registered User regular
    Trump admin asks Supreme Court to take up transgender military ban before lower courts rule on it

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/23/politics/military-transgender-ban-supreme-court/index.html


    Cons:
    - With a conservative majority enshrined, this fucking sucks and is completely needless
    - Based in nothing but base-pandering bigotry

    Pros:
    - SCOTUS almost never takes cases that haven’t had lower-court rulings first
    - The Trump administration has literally no empirical defense to their argument
    - Trump picked a bad week to start a fight with Chief Justice John Roberts about judicial impartiality

    ElvenshaewanderingGennenalyse RuebenMan in the MistsmonikerIncenjucarShadowfireElldrenDacHarry DresdenMayabirdPreacheremp123BlackDragon480TNTroopernever dieTetraNitroCubaneV1mJaysonFourZilla360BrodyA Kobold's Koboldnaengwen
  • Martini_PhilosopherMartini_Philosopher Registered User regular
    It's being reported that HIV positive, currently active members of the military are being fired by the White House.

    Not certain how prevalent this is, or if it'll hit the wider media thanks to a thousand other things going on. Thought this might be appreciated here.

    All opinions are my own and in no way reflect that of my employer.
  • QuidQuid I don't... what... hnnng Registered User regular
    HIV commonly already gets people separated, just normally at the end of their contract since they’re restricted in assignments they can fulfill. But the military recently rolled out the deploy or get out policy to cut loose anyone that can’t deploy for over 12 months. Now stuff like this gets people insta separated since they can’t deploy based on requirements.

    It’s not specifically targeted at people with HIV but it definitely and unfairly affects them much more harshly.

  • Martini_PhilosopherMartini_Philosopher Registered User regular
    Apparently it's time to necro this thread.

    There's been movement in Trump's Transgender military band. The so-called conservative members (really, they're far more reactionary) of the SCotUS says that the ban can be implemented while the trial court considers the implications of such a band.

    All opinions are my own and in no way reflect that of my employer.
    DoodmannElvenshaeMan in the MistswanderingYoutube
  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    Apparently it's time to necro this thread.

    There's been movement in Trump's Transgender military band. The so-called conservative members (really, they're far more reactionary) of the SCotUS says that the ban can be implemented while the trial court considers the implications of such a band.

    And here I was thinking it was only seeing the Immigration thread pop up after a couple days without traffic, that threatened my physical well being.

    That people willing to risk their lives in service to this country, and a President who used his position to avoid said risk, are being denied the opportunity to serve, makes me sick to my stomach.

    I fucking HATE these guys. This isn't an argument over marginal tax rates, or the role of government, or what government should be paying. This is "You people make me feel icky and so I'm going to ruin your lives to make me feel better.". Fucking petty small-minded bigoted asshole pricks.

    Stepping away from the internets now, before I say something I'll get justifiably pinged for.

    ShadowfireElvenshaemonikerDoodmannForarnever dieRhesus PositiveAtomikaL Ron HowardMartini_PhilosopherMan in the MistsDarkPrimusAridholNecoMidniteemp123CelestialBadgerA Kobold's KoboldTNTrooperkimeFencingsaxEmerlmaster999Calicadispatch.olonelyahavaGennenalyse RuebenshrykeJaysonFourLabelSmrtnikMsAnthropyJazzThe SauceElldrennaengwen
  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) I want to cut to the feelingRegistered User regular
    the worst part about this is what the ban will likely precede

    I have zero love for the military, but I sure hate having the rest of my rights taken away

    I am streamer, destroyer of worlds. [M, Tu, W, F: 2-6 pm EST] and [Saturday: 3-8 pm EST]
    Twitter
    IncenjucarAtomikaStiltsMartini_PhilosopherCouscousmonikerMegaMekShadowfireNecoMidnitemysticjuicerKetBraTNTrooperFencingsaxTetraNitroCubaneShortylonelyahavaMayabirdJaysonFourMsAnthropyJazzMrVyngaardElldren
  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Doobh wrote: »
    the worst part about this is what the ban will likely precede

    I have zero love for the military, but I sure hate having the rest of my rights taken away

    Yeah, this isn't about the military, really

    It's about what it means that a military ban is even happening

    IKknkhU.gif
    DoobhSpoitMidniteLovelyGennenalyse RuebenMrVyngaardYoutube
  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 22
    The military being awful didn't mean stuff like the military becoming integrated under Truman or making women a permanent part of military services weren't important for civil rights.

    I understand the idea behind "great, now X group will be participating in the oppression of other groups" that comes with things like there being more women higher up in the military or more minority heads of major companies but at the very least that happening can represent certain social divisions weakening in a way that can help class solidarity and whatnot in the longterm

    Couscous on
    I Zimbra
  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Trump only had 2 BS reasons why a ban should go into effect, and SCOTUS basically just said "well let it go in effect and we'll figure out if it's actually legal or not in a million years once a lawsuit makes it up here"

    wpyz0Y5.png
    Gamertag: PrimusD | Rock Band DLC | GW:OttW - arrcd | WLD - Thortar
  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Trump only had 2 BS reasons why a ban should go into effect, and SCOTUS basically just said "well let it go in effect and we'll figure out if it's actually legal or not in a million years once a lawsuit makes it up here"
    If it's found to be illegal, since 5 SCOTUS members said "continue to crime" can they be tried and taken off the court? Like, please?

    Centrism is just the cowardly way to be a bigot w/o being explicit about it.
    American politics isn't 4D chess, it's just if you give a shit about other people or not.
  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Talking about whether some of the SCOTUS should be removed from the bench is more of a subject for the SCOTUS thread proper.

    wpyz0Y5.png
    Gamertag: PrimusD | Rock Band DLC | GW:OttW - arrcd | WLD - Thortar
    ElvenshaeGnome-InterruptusMartini_PhilosopherA Kobold's KoboldMan in the MistsshrykeMatev
  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 22
    The government is going with the trans equivalent of the old "it isn't a ban on gay people" garbage.

    Attorney involved in trans rights legal work and advocacy:

    Couscous on
    Gnome-InterruptusAtomikaMidniteA Kobold's KoboldNecoStiltsQuidkimeMan in the MistsElvenshaeFencingsaxEmerlmaster999AimCalicaTetraNitroCubanetynicnever dielonelyahavaLord PalingtonLovelyStabbity StyleGennenalyse RuebenRickRudeShadowfireMayabirdshrykeL Ron HowardJaysonFourLabelLoisLaneJazzdurandal4532ElldrenBlameless Cleric
  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Don't Ask Don't Tell, but worse in every way.

    wpyz0Y5.png
    Gamertag: PrimusD | Rock Band DLC | GW:OttW - arrcd | WLD - Thortar
    DevoutlyApatheticGnome-InterruptusMartini_PhilosopherCantidoAtomikaBlackDragon480MorganVMidnitemysticjuicerPreacherA Kobold's Koboldemp123NecoStiltsQuidTNTrooperQanamilDoctor DetroitkimeMan in the MistsElvenshaeFencingsaxDoodmannAimCalicaTetraNitroCubaneShortyZomronever dielonelyahavaLovelyenlightenedbumJohnny ChopsockyStabbity StyleGennenalyse RuebenRickRudeShadowfireMayabirdshrykeL Ron HowardNo-QuarterJaysonFourLoisLaneJazzDark Raven Xdurandal4532MrVyngaardadejaanYoutubeElldrenbrynhrtmnMahnmut
  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    I did see a brief mention (SCOTUSBlog) that this may have only stayed the rulings in Washington and California, but not the Maryland injunction? Not sure how that would work unless someone missed it somewhere, but...

    Steam: Polaritie
    3DS: 0473-8507-2652
    Switch: SW-5185-4991-5118
    PSN: AbEntropy
  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Don't Ask Don't Tell, but worse in every way.

    Remember

    "Are you now or have you ever been.."?

  • TetraNitroCubaneTetraNitroCubane Registered User regular
    edited January 22
    Yeah, this is a terrifying first step.

    This has a broader social impact than many realize, too. Even at this stage. It's a clear indication of the direction the court wants to take. It's a clear statement that the institutions of America do not care to defend trans individuals.

    It's horrifying to think of where this is heading. Like, I'm literally going to be losing sleep over this.

    TetraNitroCubane on
    VuIBhrs.png
    CelestialBadgerSpoitMrVyngaardMan in the Mists
  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    Yeah, this is a terrifying first step.

    This has a broader social impact than many realize, too. Even at this stage. It's a clear indication of the direction the court wants to take. It's a clear statement that the institutions of America do not care to defend trans individuals.

    It's horrifying to think of where this is heading. Like, I'm literally going to be losing sleep over this.

    Don't think too hard about RBG's recent ill-health either.

    YoutubeOrca
  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Yeah, this is a terrifying first step.

    This has a broader social impact than many realize, too. Even at this stage. It's a clear indication of the direction the court wants to take. It's a clear statement that the institutions of America do not care to defend trans individuals.

    It's horrifying to think of where this is heading. Like, I'm literally going to be losing sleep over this.

    Ruling against the injunction does not necessarily suggest ruling in favor on the merits.

  • TetraNitroCubaneTetraNitroCubane Registered User regular
    Yeah, this is a terrifying first step.

    This has a broader social impact than many realize, too. Even at this stage. It's a clear indication of the direction the court wants to take. It's a clear statement that the institutions of America do not care to defend trans individuals.

    It's horrifying to think of where this is heading. Like, I'm literally going to be losing sleep over this.

    Don't think too hard about RBG's recent ill-health either.

    Cool.

    Cool cool cool.
    Jesus Christ I forgot about that, and it is most certainly not cool. Fuck.

    VuIBhrs.png
  • TubeTube Administrator, ClubPA admin
    Yeah, this is a terrifying first step.

    This has a broader social impact than many realize, too. Even at this stage. It's a clear indication of the direction the court wants to take. It's a clear statement that the institutions of America do not care to defend trans individuals.

    It's horrifying to think of where this is heading. Like, I'm literally going to be losing sleep over this.

    Don't think too hard about RBG's recent ill-health either.

    This isn't really a helpful sort of contribution.

    Hobnail wrote: »
    This forum has taken everything from me
    Aimnever dieKetBraSleepDouglasDangerBrodySo It GoesMartini_PhilosopherStabbity StyleGennenalyse RuebenShadowfireForarStiltsshrykeNo-QuarterJaysonFourjungleroomxtynicRanlinElldrenA Kobold's Kobold
  • MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    Yeah, this is a terrifying first step.

    This has a broader social impact than many realize, too. Even at this stage. It's a clear indication of the direction the court wants to take. It's a clear statement that the institutions of America do not care to defend trans individuals.

    It's horrifying to think of where this is heading. Like, I'm literally going to be losing sleep over this.

    The idiocy of it is the part that gets me.

    First, it was women. Then blacks. Then gays. Jews, Chinese, Native Americans too. The Irish and Italians at least got "white privilege" out of their societal integration, but that was opposed too.

    It's just fucking crazy we get to do this all over again. And there might be setbacks. But these people need to know that eventually they will be vilified for their opposition to fair rights.

    Yet they keep ringing that fucking bell, and screaming "I'm a fucking bigot!". Because despite the occasional setback, they have been losing for 100+ years.

    I just empathize for the people who are going to be hurt in the meantime. I just hope the arc of moral history bends fast this time.

    TetraNitroCubaneSleepForarL Ron HowardElvenshaeSmrtnikLoisLaneSpoitCalicaMan in the MistsHarry Dresden
  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    I did see a brief mention (SCOTUSBlog) that this may have only stayed the rulings in Washington and California, but not the Maryland injunction? Not sure how that would work unless someone missed it somewhere, but...

    It looks like it lifted those stays
    A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit lifted Kollar-Kotelly's injunction earlier this month, concluding that the ban had been substantially revised by the time it was instituted by former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis in March 2018. But other federal courts had also ruled against the ban — and until Tuesday, those other injunctions remained in place.

    torchlight-sig-80.jpg
  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    Yeah, this is a terrifying first step.

    This has a broader social impact than many realize, too. Even at this stage. It's a clear indication of the direction the court wants to take. It's a clear statement that the institutions of America do not care to defend trans individuals.

    It's horrifying to think of where this is heading. Like, I'm literally going to be losing sleep over this.

    Ruling against the injunction does not necessarily suggest ruling in favor on the merits.

    It seems like a pretty big hint to allow the enforcement of a discriminatory policy while the court cases make their way through the system. It seems very likely to make its way to the Supreme Court in due time, and if they were going to strike it down it would make everybody's life easier if it was never implemented in the first place.

    steam_sig.png
    TetraNitroCubaneSo It GoesshrykeLovelyElvenshaeMegaMekNeconever dieYoutubeElldrenMatev
  • RickRudeRickRude Registered User regular
    I'm not even sure what's actually happening here .

    What's happening to currents trans service members ? Are they being discharged over this?

    It's being tossed to lower courts, that means it can still be challenged correct? Is this a sign that if a challenge goes to scotus it will be 5-4?

    I know this is bad, but I'm not sure of the implications going forward.

  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    Yeah, if they discharge all currently known trans soldiers, and don't get around to letting them back in for another year or two until a court case works up, the ban will have already done its job. At that point even the ones that would still want to serve would've had to move on to other careers. And the ban probably dies in 2020 regardless of what the court does.

    PreacherElvenshaeMegaMekCelestialBadgerMrVyngaardYoutubeGnome-InterruptusMan in the MistsElldren
  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    edited January 23
    RickRude wrote: »
    I'm not even sure what's actually happening here .

    What's happening to currents trans service members ? Are they being discharged over this?

    It's being tossed to lower courts, that means it can still be challenged correct? Is this a sign that if a challenge goes to scotus it will be 5-4?

    I know this is bad, but I'm not sure of the implications going forward.
    It's being challenged in the lower courts, and up until now no action against trans members could be taken. The lower courts can still decide that this is wrong and put a stop to this, but until that process is complete the SCOTUS gave Trump the okay to have the policy acted on in the meanwhile. Which means yes, trans service people can be discharged and those signing up to join can be rejected.

    Henroid on
    Centrism is just the cowardly way to be a bigot w/o being explicit about it.
    American politics isn't 4D chess, it's just if you give a shit about other people or not.
  • RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    edited January 23
    Everything I've read seems to indicate that those currently in the service who have already transitioned or are in the midst of transitioning may continue to serve.

    But any transgendered person who wishes to enlist in the service going forward must enlist as either their biological sex or not at all.

    RT800 on
  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    Yeah, this is a terrifying first step.

    This has a broader social impact than many realize, too. Even at this stage. It's a clear indication of the direction the court wants to take. It's a clear statement that the institutions of America do not care to defend trans individuals.

    It's horrifying to think of where this is heading. Like, I'm literally going to be losing sleep over this.

    Ruling against the injunction does not necessarily suggest ruling in favor on the merits.

    It's not a good sign, I'd say.

    Phoenix-DMsAnthropyArbitraryDescriptorShadowfireTetraNitroCubaneJaysonFourElvenshaetynicAtomikaV1mStabbity StyleNecoBlackDragon480never dieMrVyngaardDarkPrimusYoutubeMan in the MistsElldrenMatev
  • monikermoniker Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Yeah, this is a terrifying first step.

    This has a broader social impact than many realize, too. Even at this stage. It's a clear indication of the direction the court wants to take. It's a clear statement that the institutions of America do not care to defend trans individuals.

    It's horrifying to think of where this is heading. Like, I'm literally going to be losing sleep over this.

    Ruling against the injunction does not necessarily suggest ruling in favor on the merits.

    It's not a good sign, I'd say.

    No, but hope springs eternal.

  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    edited January 23
    So It Goes wrote: »
    moniker wrote: »
    Yeah, this is a terrifying first step.

    This has a broader social impact than many realize, too. Even at this stage. It's a clear indication of the direction the court wants to take. It's a clear statement that the institutions of America do not care to defend trans individuals.

    It's horrifying to think of where this is heading. Like, I'm literally going to be losing sleep over this.

    Ruling against the injunction does not necessarily suggest ruling in favor on the merits.

    It's not a good sign, I'd say.

    The government's arguments (in Karnoski, at least) had focused somewhat on attacking the plaintiffs standing by alleging (among other things) that current servicemembers wouldn't face harm because they would be given waivers. Hypothetically.

    Even if the plaintiffs have a strong chance of winning, I am guessing this SCOTUS would be eager to defer to the DOD on anything national security related, and probably ate the fantasy of good-faith waivers right up, and decided that was enough of a safe guard to allow the obviously wrong thing to continue while the case plays out.

    See also: the same exact thing in the god-damned travel ban case.

    Fucking hell.

    ArbitraryDescriptor on
    Youtube
  • MsAnthropyMsAnthropy Our Lady of Perpetual Mazes The CageRegistered User regular
    MorganV wrote: »
    Apparently it's time to necro this thread.

    There's been movement in Trump's Transgender military band. The so-called conservative members (really, they're far more reactionary) of the SCotUS says that the ban can be implemented while the trial court considers the implications of such a band.

    And here I was thinking it was only seeing the Immigration thread pop up after a couple days without traffic, that threatened my physical well being.

    That people willing to risk their lives in service to this country, and a President who used his position to avoid said risk, are being denied the opportunity to serve, makes me sick to my stomach.

    I fucking HATE these guys. This isn't an argument over marginal tax rates, or the role of government, or what government should be paying. This is "You people make me feel icky and so I'm going to ruin your lives to make me feel better.". Fucking petty small-minded bigoted asshole pricks.

    Stepping away from the internets now, before I say something I'll get justifiably pinged for.

    I don't think the bold has it correct. I think it's actually "You people challenge traditional (white-straight-cis-dude centered) structures of power by nature of your existence and so I'm going to take away your right to exist." And, yes, there are a significant number of people in this country who want to take this forward through all of the darkest implications.

    "The only real politics I knew was that if a guy liked Hitler, I’d beat the stuffing out of him and that would be it." -- Jack Kirby
    JaysonFourNecoMrVyngaardDarkPrimusYoutubeElldren
  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    MsAnthropy wrote: »
    MorganV wrote: »
    Apparently it's time to necro this thread.

    There's been movement in Trump's Transgender military band. The so-called conservative members (really, they're far more reactionary) of the SCotUS says that the ban can be implemented while the trial court considers the implications of such a band.

    And here I was thinking it was only seeing the Immigration thread pop up after a couple days without traffic, that threatened my physical well being.

    That people willing to risk their lives in service to this country, and a President who used his position to avoid said risk, are being denied the opportunity to serve, makes me sick to my stomach.

    I fucking HATE these guys. This isn't an argument over marginal tax rates, or the role of government, or what government should be paying. This is "You people make me feel icky and so I'm going to ruin your lives to make me feel better.". Fucking petty small-minded bigoted asshole pricks.

    Stepping away from the internets now, before I say something I'll get justifiably pinged for.

    I don't think the bold has it correct. I think it's actually "You people challenge traditional (white-straight-cis-dude centered) structures of power by nature of your existence and so I'm going to take away your right to exist." And, yes, there are a significant number of people in this country who want to take this forward through all of the darkest implications.

    There’s always at least one “political power” that exists for the preservation of traditional power structures so

    Yes absolutely

    JaysonFourMrVyngaard
  • V1mV1m Registered User regular
    MsAnthropy wrote: »
    MorganV wrote: »
    Apparently it's time to necro this thread.

    There's been movement in Trump's Transgender military band. The so-called conservative members (really, they're far more reactionary) of the SCotUS says that the ban can be implemented while the trial court considers the implications of such a band.

    And here I was thinking it was only seeing the Immigration thread pop up after a couple days without traffic, that threatened my physical well being.

    That people willing to risk their lives in service to this country, and a President who used his position to avoid said risk, are being denied the opportunity to serve, makes me sick to my stomach.

    I fucking HATE these guys. This isn't an argument over marginal tax rates, or the role of government, or what government should be paying. This is "You people make me feel icky and so I'm going to ruin your lives to make me feel better.". Fucking petty small-minded bigoted asshole pricks.

    Stepping away from the internets now, before I say something I'll get justifiably pinged for.

    I don't think the bold has it correct. I think it's actually "You people challenge traditional (white-straight-cis-dude centered) structures of power by nature of your existence and so I'm going to take away your right to exist." And, yes, there are a significant number of people in this country who want to take this forward through all of the darkest implications.

    Eg: the vice President

    MrVyngaardTetraNitroCubaneYoutubeMan in the MistsCantidoLovely
  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited January 26





    Joshua Block is an attorney for the LGBT-focused wing of the ACLU.

    I know a lot of gnashing of teeth is happening, deservedly, over the ruling because of Gorsch and Kavanaugh, but Joshua points out here that we can't forget that Thomas is also a piece of shit who doesn't care about conflicts of interest.

    (Mods, if this better goes in the SCOTUS thread let me know and I'll put it over there.)

    DarkPrimus on
    wpyz0Y5.png
    Gamertag: PrimusD | Rock Band DLC | GW:OttW - arrcd | WLD - Thortar
    MorganVkimetynicemp123Gnome-InterruptusMan in the MistsYoutubeHacksawFencingsaxJaysonFourNecoMartini_Philosopher
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Same thing has happened before with Thomas. His wife is a real piece of shit involved in a lot of really nasty lobbying work. It doesn't matter and he will never recuse himself because to the Right the SCOTUS is merely a tool to advance their regressive agenda.

    kimeemp123Gnome-InterruptusMan in the MistsYoutubemonikerHacksawFencingsaxElldrenHarry DresdenNecoMartini_PhilosopherYamiB.
  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    It's probably better in the SCOTUS thread as this is about Thomas and his long-gnashed-about conflicts of interest via his wife, more than it's about this specific ruling (he's the worst)

    shrykeMan in the Mists
Sign In or Register to comment.