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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    I am pretty sure Last Week Tonight's effects are, in general, affirmational for its audience when it come sto commentary on politics rather than stupid non-partisan policy issues

    Tide goes in. Tide goes out.
    Es-annon NEVA 4GET
    Evil MultifariousKana
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    I remember the urban legend that mcdonalds apple pies were actually potato. I remember my brother looking me in the eye and saying that, hoping it would gross me out.

    "Oh. That's weird. what's wrong with potatoes? I like potatoes."

    "I guess I do too."

    "Those apple pies are good."

    "Let's do the 2 for a dollar deal."

    "OK"

    The pastry in McDonald's pies is just ... there's something terribly wrong with it. It's got this incredibly weird mouthfeel after you are done eating one that is just unpleasant and wrong and lasts for ages.

  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    I am pretty sure Last Week Tonight's effects are, in general, affirmational for its audience when it come sto commentary on politics rather than stupid non-partisan policy issues
    Given how thorough it is in its citation and extensive use of video evidence to nail people to the wall, I'm gonna disagree.

    Centrism is just the cowardly way to be a bigot w/o being explicit about it.
    American politics isn't 4D chess, it's just if you give a shit about other people or not.
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    Full Frontal even more so

    Tide goes in. Tide goes out.
    Es-annon NEVA 4GET
    Kana
  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    I had a feeling that the McDonald's apple pie was vegan; why would McDonald's spring for butter or egg if it could just sell pie-inspired cinnamon-apple snacks?

    Which turned out to be a correct suspicion, so it has been a good snack for me on road trips

    BeNarwhalJacobkosh
  • knitdanknitdan Registered User regular
    You can just say "virtue signaling" Apo

    We know what you mean

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    Harry DresdenHenroid
  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    kedinik wrote: »
    I had a feeling that the McDonald's apple pie was vegan; why would McDonald's spring for butter or egg if it could just sell pie-inspired cinnamon-apple snacks?

    Which turned out to be a correct suspicion, so it has been a good snack for me on road trips
    ... Is it actually vegan like confirmed? On the real?

    Centrism is just the cowardly way to be a bigot w/o being explicit about it.
    American politics isn't 4D chess, it's just if you give a shit about other people or not.
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Abdhyius wrote: »
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    a painting

    not a painting


    It's a music video.

    idgi

    Abdhyius on
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  • SixSix Fat Apollo Registered User regular
    Just drove around a bend on a highway and saw Mt Hermon which is in Syria. It's an interesting day. Jordan to the right, Lebanon to the left.

    @Hakkekage

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    8BZsaiY.jpg

    a painting

    not a painting


    It's a music video.

    nope

    you posted a music video

    I posted an oil and acrylic painting

    Yes, that's why I said I posted something that wasn't a painting. :)

    Harry Dresden on
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    You can just say "virtue signaling" Apo

    We know what you mean

    I don't think that applies in this instance. I am saying that Last Week Tonight doesn't do much other than make us feel good about ourselves and entertain us.

    Tide goes in. Tide goes out.
    Es-annon NEVA 4GET
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    knitdan wrote: »
    You can just say "virtue signaling" Apo

    We know what you mean

    I don't think that applies in this instance. I am saying that Last Week Tonight doesn't do much other than make us feel good about ourselves and entertain us.

    It informs, which is basically it's whole goal.

    HenroidHarry Dresden
  • CoinageCoinage dance all crazy, whip my hair around all crazy Registered User regular
    Jon Oliver gets too much credit when the pieces are just combining long magazine articles/PBS specials

  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    8BZsaiY.jpg

    a painting

    not a painting


    It's a music video.

    nope

    you posted a music video

    I posted an oil and acrylic painting

    Yes, that's why I said I posted something that wasn't a painting. :)

    go to jail post haste

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  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    Jon Oliver gets too much credit when the pieces are just combining long magazine articles/PBS specials
    They actually did an episode about that and advocated supporting your local press outlets / the national ones too.

    Centrism is just the cowardly way to be a bigot w/o being explicit about it.
    American politics isn't 4D chess, it's just if you give a shit about other people or not.
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    John Oliver
    Jon Stewart

    Tide goes in. Tide goes out.
    Es-annon NEVA 4GET
    DelmaincB557
  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote: »
    kedinik wrote: »
    I had a feeling that the McDonald's apple pie was vegan; why would McDonald's spring for butter or egg if it could just sell pie-inspired cinnamon-apple snacks?

    Which turned out to be a correct suspicion, so it has been a good snack for me on road trips
    ... Is it actually vegan like confirmed? On the real?

    McDonald's doesn't put out a list or anything like that, but the ingredients check out

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    knitdan wrote: »
    You can just say "virtue signaling" Apo

    We know what you mean

    I don't think that applies in this instance. I am saying that Last Week Tonight doesn't do much other than make us feel good about ourselves and entertain us.

    Nah, LWT targets terrible people's actions in other countries too.





    I'm sure what exactly your issue is here, do you want comedy shows to ignore Trump? He's a comedic goldmine, unlike Obama.

    edit: I'd also say it does more than just entertain. Sure, it's primarily a comedy show but they are great at uncovering details - kind of like the Daily Show under John Stewart.

    Harry Dresden on
  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
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    same artist (marco grassi)

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    I play Gigantic, and they just published the pick-rates for the different heroes. I mostly play 2, and it turns out that one is the most popular hero and the other is the second least popular one.

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    knitdan wrote: »
    You can just say "virtue signaling" Apo

    We know what you mean

    I don't think that applies in this instance. I am saying that Last Week Tonight doesn't do much other than make us feel good about ourselves and entertain us.

    It informs, which is basically it's whole goal.

    Information with which people do very little and has even less effect on the "other side"

    Tide goes in. Tide goes out.
    Es-annon NEVA 4GET
  • CoinageCoinage dance all crazy, whip my hair around all crazy Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    John Oliver
    Jon Stewart
    Spelling signalling

    Apothe0sis
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    knitdan wrote: »
    You can just say "virtue signaling" Apo

    We know what you mean

    I don't think that applies in this instance. I am saying that Last Week Tonight doesn't do much other than make us feel good about ourselves and entertain us.

    Nah, LWT targets terrible people's actions in other countries too.





    I'm sure what exactly your issue is here, do you want comedy shows to ignore Trump? He's a comedic goldmine, unlike Obama.

    edit: I'd also say it does more than just entertain. Sure, it's primarily a comedy show but they are great at uncovering details - kind of like the Daily Show under John Stewart.

    It is both informative and entertaining but ultimately little more than affirmational - it makes us feel good as having our politics presented to us via polemics against novel issues is fun.

    edit: but this is magnified when Oliver takes aim at the republicans. Our reaction to a well put skewering is not going to be shared by the republicans. The fawning praise over Bee or Oliver for "destroying Trump" or whatever is rarely reflective of the reality.

    Apothe0sis on
    Tide goes in. Tide goes out.
    Es-annon NEVA 4GET
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    knitdan wrote: »
    You can just say "virtue signaling" Apo

    We know what you mean

    I don't think that applies in this instance. I am saying that Last Week Tonight doesn't do much other than make us feel good about ourselves and entertain us.

    It informs, which is basically it's whole goal.

    Information with which people do very little and has even less effect on the "other side"

    That describes traditional news sources like the NYT or something too so, like, I don't know what you think your point is here.

    Harry DresdencB557electricitylikesmePLA
  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    knitdan wrote: »
    You can just say "virtue signaling" Apo

    We know what you mean

    I don't think that applies in this instance. I am saying that Last Week Tonight doesn't do much other than make us feel good about ourselves and entertain us.

    It informs, which is basically it's whole goal.

    Information with which people do very little and has even less effect on the "other side"

    It informs people, which in turn will impact what they do when elections come up. You underestimate how difficult it is to get through to the other side, who thought Colbert's character on The Colbert Report was being played without irony.

  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Also keep in mind that it doesn't matter how much research or information LWT presents, as the other side doesn't care and doesn't need to justify their decisions to anyone through rational argument

    Inquisitor wrote: »
    I fucking hate you Canadians.
    Apothe0siselectricitylikesme
  • BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    FIGHT "OTHERS"

    He/Him
    Narwhal, you should make "Sometimes while someone is explaining something to me, I am thinking about rockets" your signature
    Apothe0sis
  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    It is both informative and entertaining but ultimately little more than affirmational - it makes us feel good as having our politics presented to us via polemics against novel issues is fun.

    You think political issues can't be polemics? I'd like to see an example of what you think a report on Trump is non-partisan one way or another.

    edit: You're also ignoring that the other side do this, too. Though they're more like Fox News than the Daily Show.

    edit: Watch the videos I linked upthread, I'd like to know if any of that is informative to you.
    edit: but this is magnified when Oliver takes aim at the republicans. Our reaction to a well put skewering is not going to be shared by the republicans. The fawning praise over Bee or Oliver for "destroying Trump" or whatever is rarely reflective of the reality.

    As in that the criticisms don't have value how they do that or that you don't believe any of it?

    Harry Dresden on
  • kedinikkedinik Registered User regular
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    FIGHT "OTHERS"

    You wot?!

    BeNarwhal
  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    Ah fuck, that movie really got me at the end there.

    Fuck fuck fuck.

    God this movie was great.

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    I am apparently an MTGA draft god on Twitch
  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    I just looked up the annual subscription rates to the New York Times and Washington Post and hot damn, those are way WAY cheaper than I would've guessed. I might just throw down money on it to do my small part to help them keep operating.

    Centrism is just the cowardly way to be a bigot w/o being explicit about it.
    American politics isn't 4D chess, it's just if you give a shit about other people or not.
    Six
  • BeNarwhalBeNarwhal The Work Left Unfinished Registered User regular
    Okay, I think I can return to my slumber again.

    My pretty lady is sleeping soundly, so hopefully pain meds and general TLC have helped mitigate her ankle discomfort.

    Good night again, [chat]

    Be good to yourself and to each other <3

    He/Him
    Narwhal, you should make "Sometimes while someone is explaining something to me, I am thinking about rockets" your signature
    Harry Dresdenwafflesmagee
  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    @Jacobkosh @knitdan sorry I didn't get to streaming tonight, I was caught up in this movie and pausing it every once in awhile to gush about it in [chat].

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    I am apparently an MTGA draft god on Twitch
  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    BeNarwhal wrote: »
    Okay, I think I can return to my slumber again.

    My pretty lady is sleeping soundly, so hopefully pain meds and general TLC have helped mitigate her ankle discomfort.

    Good night again, [chat]

    Be good to yourself and to each other <3

    Look out everyone, the narwal is going rogue!

    BeNarwhal
  • CoinageCoinage dance all crazy, whip my hair around all crazy Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    knitdan wrote: »
    You can just say "virtue signaling" Apo

    We know what you mean

    I don't think that applies in this instance. I am saying that Last Week Tonight doesn't do much other than make us feel good about ourselves and entertain us.

    It informs, which is basically it's whole goal.

    Information with which people do very little and has even less effect on the "other side"

    It informs people, which in turn will impact what they do when elections come up. You underestimate how difficult it is to get through to the other side, who thought Colbert's character on The Colbert Report was being played without irony.
    Thinking that Stephen himself was conservative is not the same thing as not realizing the show was a joke.

  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    knitdan wrote: »
    You can just say "virtue signaling" Apo

    We know what you mean

    I don't think that applies in this instance. I am saying that Last Week Tonight doesn't do much other than make us feel good about ourselves and entertain us.

    Nah, LWT targets terrible people's actions in other countries too.





    I'm sure what exactly your issue is here, do you want comedy shows to ignore Trump? He's a comedic goldmine, unlike Obama.

    edit: I'd also say it does more than just entertain. Sure, it's primarily a comedy show but they are great at uncovering details - kind of like the Daily Show under John Stewart.

    It is both informative and entertaining but ultimately little more than affirmational - it makes us feel good as having our politics presented to us via polemics against novel issues is fun.

    edit: but this is magnified when Oliver takes aim at the republicans. Our reaction to a well put skewering is not going to be shared by the republicans. The fawning praise over Bee or Oliver for "destroying Trump" or whatever is rarely reflective of the reality.

    Republicans can't even agree on reality so I'm not sure what you expect. Again, this is just as applicable to the most respected of traditional news sources.

    Harry DresdenPLA
  • HenroidHenroid Radio Demon Internet HellRegistered User regular
    Well anyway, tonight's LWT focused on the Affordable Care Act and everything that's been going on under this presidency regarding it. It calls special attention to what's been happening at all the town halls where people are yelling at their representatives to not repeal the ACA. My favorite is the guy in Florida who actually argued back at his (elderly) constituency, telling them they were wrong and calling them children.

    Centrism is just the cowardly way to be a bigot w/o being explicit about it.
    American politics isn't 4D chess, it's just if you give a shit about other people or not.
  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    I like Oliver a lot, and his show is funny, as was the Bugle. For my politics, though, I don't find it and things like it terribly helpful, in quite a few ways. I appreciate its disrespect for power but what it provides besides that, and you see this generalized in the mass response of many people extolling the destruction of whatever target John picked, is catharsis. And catharsis not derived not from actual political victory is a dangerous thing.

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  • AtomikaAtomika not a robot. does not eat bugs!Registered User regular
    FYI I was correctly gendered 100% of the time in the Windy City


    gg, Chicago

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