I thought it was so very fitting and awesome for Sylens to capture HADES like that. Heck, he as much as told us he would right after GAIA Prime. "I would do it all over again, just with more safeguards." (paraphrased)
I can't help but like Sylens, even if I don't trust him at all. There was something just so refreshing about his sheer uninterest in any emotional attachment or getting personal.
There's something so refreshing about this utterly selfish and completely destructive near-sociopath! (But seriously, Sylens is sweet and I think he HZD could be bananas if we're dealing with him, Hades, newly rogue AI systems, Faro, and additional "modern" political intrigue a la Meridian City.)
Stormbirds to me were one of the game's few misteps. Way too often they would position themselves in a place it just wasn't possible to reach with the camera. It felt more like a bug than difficult gameplay and after the first couple I would just sneak around subsequent ones because they weren't worth the fight.
It seems they intend you use the knockdown time to apply freeze or tie it up. Otherwise they fly up so far they take a long time to arrow to death. But frozen they fall fast in near permanent hitstun.
I started avoiding stormbirds and glinthawks by the end, too much trouble.
Glinthawks, at least for me, got pretty easy by the end. Two shots with the best ropecaster, wait for the critical prompt -> Crit, wait for prompt -> Crit -> Dead Glinthawk.
I started avoiding stormbirds and glinthawks by the end, too much trouble.
Glinthawks, at least for me, got pretty easy by the end. Two shots with the best ropecaster, wait for the critical prompt -> Crit, wait for prompt -> Crit -> Dead Glinthawk.
I'd go 2x Fire Arrow, that made them crash, then machine gun arrows into their chest ice tank.
I started avoiding stormbirds and glinthawks by the end, too much trouble.
Glinthawks, at least for me, got pretty easy by the end. Two shots with the best ropecaster, wait for the critical prompt -> Crit, wait for prompt -> Crit -> Dead Glinthawk.
I'd go 2x Fire Arrow, that made them crash, then machine gun arrows into their chest ice tank.
I would 2x Fire Arrow, then run up and stab them. Usually takes them out, and if not, another fire arrow finishes the job.
Triple fire arrows with purple mods typically just makes them burn to death, no other attacks needed. They crash and burn.
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Single Glinthawks were usually no trouble (hardpoint off the chestplate, precision for damage usually knocks it down, stab), and flocks of Glinthawks got to eat Corruption arrows and then eat each other.
I loved Stormbirds after I got the perk for three arrows at once, it was Freeze Stormbird, then play "how many sticky bombs will fit on a single Stormbird" which is the best mini-game ever.
I started avoiding stormbirds and glinthawks by the end, too much trouble.
Glinthawks, at least for me, got pretty easy by the end. Two shots with the best ropecaster, wait for the critical prompt -> Crit, wait for prompt -> Crit -> Dead Glinthawk.
Glinthawks die to a single 3-arrow volley of Fire arrows.
I got lucky with the double-rockbreaker zone because I ran into two Ravagers on the way over. So I wrecked them, dragged both guns close to the rockbreakers, and then terminated them with extreme prejudice.
I got lucky with the double-rockbreaker zone because I ran into two Ravagers on the way over. So I wrecked them, dragged both guns close to the rockbreakers, and then terminated them with extreme prejudice.
I lugged full ammo ravager cannon a long ways to blow away one of the two corrupt behemoths and its minions leaving me a single corrupt behemoth leftover.
The dual corrupt rockbreakers I just did the old fashioned way. Lots of arrows.
I cheesed it as the corrupt Rockbreakers don't leave the zone (and will throw rocks at you). So I just peppered them with fire arrows and just let them slowly burn.
They do a great job of getting the player invested in the story and world. Just fine the proving..... The feels, man.
The Proving was fine. I mean that. It set up Aloy and her motivations, and it put in motion the main quest, etc. It was pretty paint by numbers in terms of plotting though, with the only real surprise being how they handled a couple of the minor characters. But it told a pretty predictable story fairly well.
I'll assume that you intended to say that you just finished the Proving, so I'll avoid any detail on what comes later. But: the feels have just begun, man. The Proving has nothing on the backstory. IMO, make a point of reading the logs and listening to the audio logs and visiting the Vantage points. I'm normally one who enjoys spoilers, but I really strongly recommend avoiding spoilers for this game.
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They do a great job of getting the player invested in the story and world. Just fine the proving..... The feels, man.
Just for fun, try keeping a journal of where you think the story's going, 'cause I'm pretty sure most of the main missions will subvert your expectations.
Having played a LOT of Monster Hunter dual monster quests, the dual Rockbreakers didn't seem all that challenging to me, as it's just a lot of camera control and not being greedy.
They do a great job of getting the player invested in the story and world. Just fine the proving..... The feels, man.
Just for fun, try keeping a journal of where you think the story's going, 'cause I'm pretty sure most of the main missions will subvert your expectations.
I might just do that, sounds like a great idea! I'll just post them in here in spoilers, if folks don't mind.
Oh I forgot to mention but did anyone else find it weird how Aloy(post proving spoiler)
just knows the door in the sacred mountain isn't something mystical? Like everyone else is filled but she just seems to have the knowledge from nowhere.
I'm hoping it's explained more clearly and i do have an idea but they haven't shown enough to confirm that (I'm thinking her focus is key).
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Oh I forgot to mention but did anyone else find it weird how Aloy(post proving spoiler)
just knows the door in the sacred mountain isn't something mystical? Like everyone else is filled but she just seems to have the knowledge from nowhere.
I'm hoping it's explained more clearly and i do have an idea but they haven't shown enough to confirm that (I'm thinking her focus is key).
I think the Focus (as well as being an outcast since birth) sets her apart from the tribe in terms of accepting their customs and mythology. The Focus is an analytical tool and growing up with it trained her to be more questioning and analytical in turn.
Oh I forgot to mention but did anyone else find it weird how Aloy(post proving spoiler)
just knows the door in the sacred mountain isn't something mystical? Like everyone else is filled but she just seems to have the knowledge from nowhere.
I'm hoping it's explained more clearly and i do have an idea but they haven't shown enough to confirm that (I'm thinking her focus is key).
I think the Focus (as well as being an outcast since birth) sets her apart from the tribe in terms of accepting their customs and mythology. The Focus is an analytical tool and growing up with it trained her to be more questioning and analytical in turn.
See I was think that too however
the thing that sits a bit odd for me is that Rost is the one who raised her and he is a very traditional, follow the rules of the tribe guy. I suppose it's a nature Vs nurture debate eh :P
Oh I forgot to mention but did anyone else find it weird how Aloy(post proving spoiler)
just knows the door in the sacred mountain isn't something mystical? Like everyone else is filled but she just seems to have the knowledge from nowhere.
I'm hoping it's explained more clearly and i do have an idea but they haven't shown enough to confirm that (I'm thinking her focus is key).
I think the Focus (as well as being an outcast since birth) sets her apart from the tribe in terms of accepting their customs and mythology. The Focus is an analytical tool and growing up with it trained her to be more questioning and analytical in turn.
See I was think that too however
the thing that sits a bit odd for me is that Rost is the one who raised her and he is a very traditional, follow the rules of the tribe guy. I suppose it's a nature Vs nurture debate eh :P
Well I figure that (Post-Proving spoilers)
As soon as Aloy saw that door to All-Mother, she was thinking: "That's a security door. The ruin I fell into as a kid had doors that looked pretty similiar to that." And then I'm pretty sure the Focus shows "Security Door" when you look at All-Mother.
So I wasn't surprised when Aloy had no reverence because I was thinking: "This is All-Mother? (Technically, it's the physical symbol of All-Mother but still.) It's a door. Teersa, you know I love you, you're my favorite Matriarch. But it's a door."
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Oh I forgot to mention but did anyone else find it weird how Aloy(post proving spoiler)
just knows the door in the sacred mountain isn't something mystical? Like everyone else is filled but she just seems to have the knowledge from nowhere.
I'm hoping it's explained more clearly and i do have an idea but they haven't shown enough to confirm that (I'm thinking her focus is key).
I think the Focus (as well as being an outcast since birth) sets her apart from the tribe in terms of accepting their customs and mythology. The Focus is an analytical tool and growing up with it trained her to be more questioning and analytical in turn.
See I was think that too however
the thing that sits a bit odd for me is that Rost is the one who raised her and he is a very traditional, follow the rules of the tribe guy. I suppose it's a nature Vs nurture debate eh :P
The scanner in the door said the exact same thing to her that it did to her (presumed) mother in the clip she saw from Olin's focus. Between that and her growing up with the focus and previous exposure to technology in the cave she fell into, it should have fallen into place pretty quickly for her.
Having played a LOT of Monster Hunter dual monster quests, the dual Rockbreakers didn't seem all that challenging to me, as it's just a lot of camera control and not being greedy.
yea honestly the bigger scarier monsters i have no problem with because the iframes they give you on the dodge is almost luxurious compared to monster hunter. feels like almost 2 seconds of immunity.
Question about Aloy (late game/post game spoilers):
Would she be considered a genius? I mean, she's obviously very intelligent, and she's a clone of a bona fide genius. To what extent is intelligence genetic, and less a result of education and upbringing?
Question about Aloy (late game/post game spoilers):
Would she be considered a genius? I mean, she's obviously very intelligent, and she's a clone of a bona fide genius. To what extent is intelligence genetic, and less a result of education and upbringing?
Yes. She figured out that the earth was round based on observation of eclipses. She taught herself how to read English by matching symbols on the focus to objects. While not a direct indicator of intelligence, that she kept an open and inquisitive mind throughout the story, figuring out what happened in some of the detective moments based on what her Focus showed her, indicates she's a very smart cookie.
I'd say that she's a genius, but that a large portion of her formative years were spent learning how to hunt machines rather than how to build them. Same genius, very different application.
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Question about Aloy (late game/post game spoilers):
Would she be considered a genius? I mean, she's obviously very intelligent, and she's a clone of a bona fide genius. To what extent is intelligence genetic, and less a result of education and upbringing?
Yes. She figured out that the earth was round based on observation of eclipses. She taught herself how to read English by matching symbols on the focus to objects. While not a direct indicator of intelligence, that she kept an open and inquisitive mind throughout the story, figuring out what happened in some of the detective moments based on what her Focus showed her, indicates she's a very smart cookie.
I'd say that she's a genius, but that a large portion of her formative years were spent learning how to hunt machines rather than how to build them. Same genius, very different application.
I figured that English was a language they were using anyway. The first new generation got at least a pre-school level of education, I'd expect basic English to be included.
Question about Aloy (late game/post game spoilers):
Would she be considered a genius? I mean, she's obviously very intelligent, and she's a clone of a bona fide genius. To what extent is intelligence genetic, and less a result of education and upbringing?
Yes. She figured out that the earth was round based on observation of eclipses. She taught herself how to read English by matching symbols on the focus to objects. While not a direct indicator of intelligence, that she kept an open and inquisitive mind throughout the story, figuring out what happened in some of the detective moments based on what her Focus showed her, indicates she's a very smart cookie.
I'd say that she's a genius, but that a large portion of her formative years were spent learning how to hunt machines rather than how to build them. Same genius, very different application.
I figured that English was a language they were using anyway. The first new generation got at least a pre-school level of education, I'd expect basic English to be included.
Spoken english yes. But was written english covered? iirc I don't recall seeing any writing anywhere. Just pictograms and glyphs. And the scanned "modern day" writings specify that they're glyph writings.
Question about Aloy (late game/post game spoilers):
Would she be considered a genius? I mean, she's obviously very intelligent, and she's a clone of a bona fide genius. To what extent is intelligence genetic, and less a result of education and upbringing?
Yes. She figured out that the earth was round based on observation of eclipses. She taught herself how to read English by matching symbols on the focus to objects. While not a direct indicator of intelligence, that she kept an open and inquisitive mind throughout the story, figuring out what happened in some of the detective moments based on what her Focus showed her, indicates she's a very smart cookie.
I'd say that she's a genius, but that a large portion of her formative years were spent learning how to hunt machines rather than how to build them. Same genius, very different application.
I figured that English was a language they were using anyway. The first new generation got at least a pre-school level of education, I'd expect basic English to be included.
Spoken english yes. But was written english covered? iirc I don't recall seeing any writing anywhere. Just pictograms and glyphs. And the scanned "modern day" writings specify that they're glyph writings.
Written English was not covered.
The Focus translates the Gylph style writing that's emerged to replace it - at least some of the Glyphs in the journal say that they were translated by the Focus. Aloy probably can't read those yet. But she can read English. One of my favourite moments in the game is when she sees the sign for Enduring Victory at USRC and immediately comments on the name.
Also, the Focus replaces the road markings with English letters for Aloy. I love that little detail.
Aloy and Sylens could probably write back and forth in English and no one would have any idea what they were saying to each other.
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Glinthawks, at least for me, got pretty easy by the end. Two shots with the best ropecaster, wait for the critical prompt -> Crit, wait for prompt -> Crit -> Dead Glinthawk.
I'd go 2x Fire Arrow, that made them crash, then machine gun arrows into their chest ice tank.
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There's a big ass loader bot (Edit: Behemoth) that pats around there I just snuck up and hacked it and it killed 1 rockbreaker while I took the other.
Yeah I just waited until near the end when I had the cheater armor.
Glinthawks die to a single 3-arrow volley of Fire arrows.
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Stormhawks were long fights that I didn't really enjoy at all, I only fought 2-3 of them but really didn't get a lot out of it.
I lugged full ammo ravager cannon a long ways to blow away one of the two corrupt behemoths and its minions leaving me a single corrupt behemoth leftover.
The dual corrupt rockbreakers I just did the old fashioned way. Lots of arrows.
The Proving was fine. I mean that. It set up Aloy and her motivations, and it put in motion the main quest, etc. It was pretty paint by numbers in terms of plotting though, with the only real surprise being how they handled a couple of the minor characters. But it told a pretty predictable story fairly well.
I'll assume that you intended to say that you just finished the Proving, so I'll avoid any detail on what comes later. But: the feels have just begun, man. The Proving has nothing on the backstory. IMO, make a point of reading the logs and listening to the audio logs and visiting the Vantage points. I'm normally one who enjoys spoilers, but I really strongly recommend avoiding spoilers for this game.
Just for fun, try keeping a journal of where you think the story's going, 'cause I'm pretty sure most of the main missions will subvert your expectations.
I might just do that, sounds like a great idea! I'll just post them in here in spoilers, if folks don't mind.
I'm hoping it's explained more clearly and i do have an idea but they haven't shown enough to confirm that (I'm thinking her focus is key).
See I was think that too however
Well I figure that (Post-Proving spoilers)
So I wasn't surprised when Aloy had no reverence because I was thinking: "This is All-Mother? (Technically, it's the physical symbol of All-Mother but still.) It's a door. Teersa, you know I love you, you're my favorite Matriarch. But it's a door."
yea honestly the bigger scarier monsters i have no problem with because the iframes they give you on the dodge is almost luxurious compared to monster hunter. feels like almost 2 seconds of immunity.
I'd say that she's a genius, but that a large portion of her formative years were spent learning how to hunt machines rather than how to build them. Same genius, very different application.
Written English was not covered.
The Focus translates the Gylph style writing that's emerged to replace it - at least some of the Glyphs in the journal say that they were translated by the Focus. Aloy probably can't read those yet. But she can read English. One of my favourite moments in the game is when she sees the sign for Enduring Victory at USRC and immediately comments on the name.
Also, the Focus replaces the road markings with English letters for Aloy. I love that little detail.
Aloy and Sylens could probably write back and forth in English and no one would have any idea what they were saying to each other.