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[BSG] Daybreak Game 3 Turn 36: Felix Gaeta (MrBody)

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    How many skill cards are Felix and Lee holding now? @MrBody @Doctorstrongbad

    It's the first number to the right of the character names on the board, right under the red square.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Are we allowed to announce our contribution out of order?

    and what does the destiny number at the end of a crises mean?

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    DoctorstrongbadDoctorstrongbad Registered User regular
    Normally, you do it in order. but this is the first crisis that requires cards. After we all put in cards, two mystery cards are added from the destiny deck. They could be any color or number. If you want to make sure you pass a check, always put in extra cards to cover the destiny deck.

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    PredaPreda Registered User regular
    Order of play isn't particularly meaningful unless there are revealed cylons around. You have the right to know how many cards the players before you have played, but since there is a reason to doubt someone that info isn't so important. On the other side, info could always be taken from any play. I played only a small card because the turn player has 12 cards in hand, so should play at least 2 and probably more. Admiral has a lot of card too and has to play just before last. But I could have other reason to play low...

    At the end is a host choice how mutch to enforce order of play. In a F2F game I would enforce it strictly, info are much more important there, in a P2P it might be skipped to hasten the game flow and the chance to see all the history of the players move still give more information if someone want to dig for it.

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    DoctorstrongbadDoctorstrongbad Registered User regular
    For the record, I only have eleven cards.

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    KorsakoviaKorsakovia technoDaleks Registered User regular
    I'm fine with contribution being out of order in order to keep things at a reasonable pace. As @Preda mentioned, turn order might become important later wrt interactions between Humans & Cylons.

    @MrBody , the Destiny number is the 2_card contribution from the Destiny Deck.

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    KorsakoviaKorsakovia technoDaleks Registered User regular
    Per PM,
    President's Office activated to draw 2 Politics.

    Turn 2: President Lee Adama (@Doctorstrongbad)

    Receive Skills Step: 1 Tactics, 2 Piloting, 1 Leadership, 1 Politics
    (Per PM)
    Movement Step: To President's Office, discarding Tactics 1 - Launch Scout
    Action Step: Play Leadership 1 - Executive Order on Admiral Felix Gaeta (MrBody)
    Action 1: Activate Captain's Cabin for Leadership.
    Action 2: Activate Captain's Cabin for Leadership.
    Forward Thinker: Activate President's Office, draw color=darkorange]2 Politics[/color].
    Crisis Step: Unexpected Reunion
    Activate Cylon Ships Step: Activate Raiders
    Prepare for Jump Step: -

    From mere viper pilot on an aging, to be decommissioned battlestar to President of the survivors of the Twelve Colonies, the battlefield remains the same. But now instead of protecting the lives of humanity on the frontlines, he protects their memories of home, life as it used to be...and their hopes, their dreams, their freedoms.

    From his office on
    Colonial One, Lee directs resources to the military and orders the Admiral to take further action.

    As Gaeta distributes supplies to the fleet, Lee works his connections to gather political capital for what's to come...but is he truly prepared when a face he thought long gone pays him a visit in his office?


    Unexpected Reunion
    [8] Politics + Leadership + Tactics
    Pass: No effect.
    Fail: -1 Morale, and the current player discards his hand of Skill Cards.

    After Crisis: Activate Raiders

    Destiny: 2
    Gaius Baltar (@Daemonis ): 1
    Louanna “Kat” Katraine (@Preda ): 1
    Louis Hoshi (@Hedgethorn ): 1
    Kara “Starbuck” Thrace (@Phyphor ):
    Felix Gaeta (@MrBody ): 1
    Lee Adama (@Doctorstrongbad ):



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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    One

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    DoctorstrongbadDoctorstrongbad Registered User regular
    @MrBody @Phyphor Are your cards low, medium, or high?

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    KorsakoviaKorsakovia technoDaleks Registered User regular
    @MrBody @Phyphor Are your cards low, medium, or high?

    I think the forum consensus from past games is to ask if they'll help a little or a lot. 'Medium', especially on single cards, can give away a bit too much on card strength.

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    HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    Korsakovia wrote: »
    @MrBody @Phyphor Are your cards low, medium, or high?

    I think the forum consensus from past games is to ask if they'll help a little or a lot. 'Medium', especially on single cards, can give away a bit too much on card strength.

    The official rules/FAQ also say that you can say "a little" or "a lot", but nothing else.

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    DoctorstrongbadDoctorstrongbad Registered User regular
    Korsakovia wrote: »
    @MrBody @Phyphor Are your cards low, medium, or high?

    I think the forum consensus from past games is to ask if they'll help a little or a lot. 'Medium', especially on single cards, can give away a bit too much on card strength.

    Ah okay.
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    Korsakovia wrote: »
    @MrBody @Phyphor Are your cards low, medium, or high?

    I think the forum consensus from past games is to ask if they'll help a little or a lot. 'Medium', especially on single cards, can give away a bit too much on card strength.

    The official rules/FAQ also say that you can say "a little" or "a lot", but nothing else.

    No problem, just trying to get extra info.

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    One for a little

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Hedgethorn wrote: »
    Korsakovia wrote: »
    @MrBody @Phyphor Are your cards low, medium, or high?

    I think the forum consensus from past games is to ask if they'll help a little or a lot. 'Medium', especially on single cards, can give away a bit too much on card strength.

    The official rules/FAQ also say that you can say "a little" or "a lot", but nothing else.

    "A medium amount" is acceptable if you contribute multiple cards

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    @MrBody @Phyphor Are your cards low, medium, or high?

    Little

    In face to face games, it's pretty obviously "medium" when the person hesitates to answer on the amount.

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    DoctorstrongbadDoctorstrongbad Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Two cards.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Are '0' value cards supposed to be shitty? Like I would figure the printed effect would at least be good, but they actually seem like an outright hindrance. Are they meant to be Cylon tools?

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    PredaPreda Registered User regular
    Some are extremely useful, other are downright dangerous and cylon tools. should be evaluated individually.

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    KorsakoviaKorsakovia technoDaleks Registered User regular
    Per PM,
    President's Office activated to draw 2 Politics.

    Turn 2: President Lee Adama (@Doctorstrongbad)

    Receive Skills Step: 1 Tactics, 2 Piloting, 1 Leadership, 1 Politics
    (Per PM)
    Movement Step: To President's Office, discarding Tactics 1 - Launch Scout
    Action Step: Play Leadership 1 - Executive Order on Admiral Felix Gaeta (MrBody)
    Action 1: Activate Captain's Cabin for Leadership.
    Action 2: Activate Captain's Cabin for Leadership.
    Forward Thinker: Activate President's Office, draw color=darkorange]2 Politics[/color].
    Crisis Step: Unexpected Reunion
    Activate Cylon Ships Step: Activate Raiders
    Prepare for Jump Step: -

    From mere viper pilot on an aging, to be decommissioned battlestar to President of the survivors of the Twelve Colonies, the battlefield remains the same. But now instead of protecting the lives of humanity on the frontlines, he protects their memories of home, life as it used to be...and their hopes, their dreams, their freedoms.

    From his office on
    Colonial One, Lee directs resources to the military and orders the Admiral to take further action.

    As Gaeta distributes supplies to the fleet, Lee works his connections to gather political capital for what's to come...but is he truly prepared when a face he thought long gone pays him a visit in his office?


    Unexpected Reunion
    [8] Politics + Leadership + Tactics
    Pass: No effect.
    Fail: -1 Morale, and the current player discards his hand of Skill Cards.

    After Crisis: Activate Raiders

    Destiny: 2
    Gaius Baltar (@Daemonis ): 1
    Louanna “Kat” Katraine (@Preda ): 1
    Louis Hoshi (@Hedgethorn ): 1
    Kara “Starbuck” Thrace (@Phyphor ): 1
    Felix Gaeta (@MrBody ): 1
    Lee Adama (@Doctorstrongbad ): 2

    Politics 1 - Consolidate Power
    Politics 4 - Popular Influence
    Politics 5 - Negotiation

    Leadership 0 - Iron Will
    Leadership 2 - Executive Order

    Tactics 1 - Launch Scout
    Tactics 2 - Launch Scout
    Tactics 4 - Critical Situation

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    Treachery 0 - Bait
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    10 + 2 + 7 - 0 = 19, Pass!

    Treachery - Bait found in Skill Check, 1_civilian ship placed behind Galactica.

    The visitor is led away from Lee's office without too much time wasted.
    A civilian ship in need of resupply approaches the
    Galactica.
    Elsewhere, Cylon Raiders form up into attack formations.

    Activate Raiders: Raiders move Fore → Starboard-Bow.

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    KorsakoviaKorsakovia technoDaleks Registered User regular
    Turn 3: Gaius Baltar ( @Daemonis )

    Receive Skills Step: 2 Politics, 2 Leadership, 1 Engineering

    Humanity's brief respite may soon be coming to an end. The good doctor knows first hand just how tenacious and persistent the enemy is. But, what to do about it?

    ~
    Current Situation:

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    Resources: Fuel - 8, Food - 8, Morale - 10, Population - 12.

    Jump Preparation: Level 1 - Jump unavailable.
    Pursuit Track: Level 1.

    Distance Covered: 0

    Galactica: No damage, no boarding parties.
    Pegasus: No damage.

    Nuke Tokens: 2 remain.
    Quorum Cards: 1 in hand.

    Ship Reserves: 4 Viper Mk II, 4 Raptors, 1 Assault Raptor available. 4 Viper Mk VIIs damaged.

    Characters:
    Admiral Felix Gaeta (MrBody) in Captain's Cabin
    President Lee Adama (Doctorstrongbad) in President's Office
    Gaius Balta (Daemonis) in Admiral's Quarters
    Louanna “Kat” Katraine (Preda) in Hangar Deck
    Louis Hoshi (Hedgethorn) in Communications
    CAG Kara “Starbuck” Thrace (Phyphor) in Hangar Deck

    Galactica Space:
    Fore (9 o'clock) - 1 Basestar.
    Starboard-bow (11 o'clock) - 6 Raiders.
    Starboard-quarter (1 o'clock) - None.
    Aft (3 o'clock) - 3 Civilian Ships.
    Port-quarter (5 o'clock) - None.
    Port-bow (7 o'clock) - None.

    Cylon Space:
    Fore (9 o'clock) - None.
    Starboard-bow (11 o'clock) - None.
    Starboard-quarter (1 o'clock) - None.
    Aft (3 o'clock) - None.
    Port-quarter (5 o'clock) - None.
    Port-bow (7 o'clock) - None.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Are there no reckless treachery cards in this game? So there's no drawback to making skill checks reckless?

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    DaemonisDaemonis Registered User regular
    So... keep exploiting Captain's Cabin?

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    PredaPreda Registered User regular
    Or, since we haven't advanced jump yet, maybe start launching out pilots.

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    DaemonisDaemonis Registered User regular
    Leadership 1 - Executive Order on Starbuck! CAG in action!
    @Phyphor

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    DoctorstrongbadDoctorstrongbad Registered User regular
    If I was younger, I would be the first one to jump in a ship.

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Launch port quarter in assault raptor. Cag a viper port bow. Move aft

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Isn't a piloted viper better for escorting civilian ships off the board and tackling raiders while the assault raptor is better against basestars?

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    edited March 2017
    I don't think there's really much of a difference there. Shooting at basestars is a low percentage move, even with the assault raptor's bonus. It can still escort and shoot raiders like normal

    edit: the real bonus is it keeps me in space forever, which is exactly where I want to be

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    Oh right, since I started in the hangar deck I also get another action. Escort a civ

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    It's been a while since I played. Don't manned vipers get 2 activations per turn? So it could escort civilians twice as fast?

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    HedgethornHedgethorn Associate Professor of Historical Hobby Horses In the Lions' DenRegistered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    It's been a while since I played. Don't manned vipers get 2 activations per turn? So it could escort civilians twice as fast?

    The Daybreak rulebook says this:
    "Assault raptors are treated as vipers, not raptors, for all game effects. When a game effect instructs players to choose a viper to launch, damage, destroy, place, or activate, the player taking an action at that time may choose a viper or an assault raptor to use for that game effect."

    I've never played Daybreak, but my understanding is that manned assault raptors function exactly like manned vipers in every way, except that they don't have to return to the ship upon FTL jump and they can't be damaged.

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    DoctorstrongbadDoctorstrongbad Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
    edit: the real bonus is it keeps me in space forever, which is exactly where I want to be

    Nothing wrong with that. Stay is space and be a good pilot.

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Oh, is the assault raptor the manned one?

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
    MrBody wrote: »
    Oh, is the assault raptor the manned one?

    Yup. Normal raptors are only used in crisis cards/destinations/launch scout

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    KorsakoviaKorsakovia technoDaleks Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Turn 3: Gaius Baltar ( @Daemonis )

    Humanity's brief respite may soon be coming to an end. The good doctor knows first hand just how tenacious and persistent the enemy is. But, what to do about it?

    Baltar assembles civilian volunteers to do heavy lifting in the hangar bay, allowing Starbuck to focus on getting combat patrol flying again. Launching in the sole Assault Raptor, a Viper soon joins her as she begins escorting civilain ships to safety.


    Receive Skills Step: 2 Politics, 2 Leadership, 1 Engineering
    Movement Step: -
    Action Step: Leadership 1 - Executive Order on Phyphor [Action 1: Hangar Deck - Launch Port Quarter in Assault Raptor. Hangar Action: Move Aft. CAG Action: Launch a viper Port Bow. [/b]Action 2[/b]: Escort a Civilian Ship.
    Crisis Step: Water Sabotaged

    Water Sabotaged
    Current player (@Daemonis ) must choose:
    A) Skill Check [13] Politics + Leadership + Tactics
    Pass: No effect.
    Fail: -2 Food
    OR
    B) -1 Food

    After Crisis: Activate Raiders, Advance Jump Preparation

    A civilian worker from the hangar comes to Baltar with dire news. "Someone's contaminated the water, dumped used oil and coolant into the storage tanks!

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    DaemonisDaemonis Registered User regular
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    PredaPreda Registered User regular
    Daemonis wrote: »

    :?

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    MrBodyMrBody Registered User regular
    Who needs big government clean drinking water regulations? Make Galactica great again!

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    KorsakoviaKorsakovia technoDaleks Registered User regular
    Turn 3: Gaius Baltar ( @Daemonis )

    Humanity's brief respite may soon be coming to an end. The good doctor knows first hand just how tenacious and persistent the enemy is. But, what to do about it?

    Baltar assembles civilian volunteers to do heavy lifting in the hangar bay, allowing Starbuck to focus on getting combat patrol flying again. Launching in the sole Assault Raptor, a Viper soon joins her as she begins escorting civilain ships to safety.


    Receive Skills Step: 2 Politics, 2 Leadership, 1 Engineering
    Movement Step: -
    Action Step: Leadership 1 - Executive Order on Phyphor [Action 1: Hangar Deck - Launch Port Quarter in Assault Raptor. Hangar Action: Move Aft. CAG Action: Launch a viper Port Bow. [/b]Action 2[/b]: Escort a Civilian Ship.
    Crisis Step: Water Sabotaged

    Water Sabotaged
    Current player (@Daemonis ) must choose:
    A) Skill Check [13] Politics + Leadership + Tactics
    Pass: No effect.
    Fail: -2 Food
    OR

    B) -1 Food

    After Crisis: Activate Raiders, Advance Jump Preparation

    A civilian worker from the hangar comes to Baltar with dire news. "Someone's contaminated the water, dumped used oil and coolant into the storage tanks!

    Baltar directs them to save what they can. 1 tank is sufficiently filtered to recover the water, but the other is spiked beyond saving and has to be dumped to the vacuum of space.
    [/quote]

    Activate Raiders: Raiders Starboard-Bow move Starboard-Quarter.
    Advance Jump Preparation: Jump Track advances 1 (no jump possible).

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    KorsakoviaKorsakovia technoDaleks Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Turn 4: Louanna “Kat” Katraine ( @Preda )

    Receive Skills Step: 1 Leadership, 2 Tactics, 2 Piloting

    Cylons from without and within, the machines and their not quite entirely flesh creators direct work their unknown machinations to end humanity once and for all.

    ~
    Current Situation:

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    Resources: Fuel - 8, Food - 7, Morale - 10, Population - 12.

    Jump Preparation: Level 2 - Jump unavailable.
    Pursuit Track: Level 1.

    Distance Covered: 0

    Galactica: No damage, no boarding parties.
    Pegasus: No damage.

    Nuke Tokens: 2 remain.
    Quorum Cards: 1 in hand.

    Ship Reserves: 4 Viper Mk II, 4 Raptors, 1 Assault Raptor available. 4 Viper Mk VIIs damaged.

    Characters:
    Admiral Felix Gaeta (MrBody) in Captain's Cabin
    President Lee Adama (Doctorstrongbad) in President's Office
    Gaius Balta (Daemonis) in Admiral's Quarters
    Louanna “Kat” Katraine (Preda) in Assault Raptor, Aft
    Louis Hoshi (Hedgethorn) in Communications
    CAG Kara “Starbuck” Thrace (Phyphor) in Hangar Deck

    Galactica Space:
    Fore (9 o'clock) - 1 Basestar.
    Starboard-bow (11 o'clock) - None.
    Starboard-quarter (1 o'clock) - 6 Raiders.
    Aft (3 o'clock) - 1 Assault Raptor, 2 Civilian Ships.
    Port-quarter (5 o'clock) - None.
    Port-bow (7 o'clock) - None.

    Cylon Space:
    Fore (9 o'clock) - None.
    Starboard-bow (11 o'clock) - None.
    Starboard-quarter (1 o'clock) - None.
    Aft (3 o'clock) - None.
    Port-quarter (5 o'clock) - None.
    Port-bow (7 o'clock) - None.


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