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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    IFixit does repairability reviews. Mostly for electronics iirc.

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  • DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    kaid wrote: »
    Hahah we have an ancient peeler I think it was my grandmothers from a long time ago. Still works great never had a problem on potatoes or apples. Mom wanted a new nicer looking one and it did not work for crap and went back to the antique.

    Sometimes, but certainly not always, and it's always a case-by-case basis when it is, the older ways are better.

    Like cast iron cookware. My grandmother had a 70-year old cast iron pan so perfectly seasoned nothing would stick to it.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2017
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    kaid wrote: »
    Hahah we have an ancient peeler I think it was my grandmothers from a long time ago. Still works great never had a problem on potatoes or apples. Mom wanted a new nicer looking one and it did not work for crap and went back to the antique.

    Sometimes, but certainly not always, and it's always a case-by-case basis when it is, the older ways are better.

    Like cast iron cookware. My grandmother had a 70-year old cast iron pan so perfectly seasoned nothing would stick to it.

    Well, sure. But you can buy a brand-new cast iron pan and end up with the exact same performance if you want to. It's just the low-end nonstick stuff that is disposable.

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  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard Registered User regular
    http://www.buymeonce.com/ is one site I've heard friends and other people on the internet use for more durable items. I can't speak to it personally, however.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    I recently repaired my vacuum, everything was more accessible than I expected. Good on you Hoover.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    Here's a recent article (from today) on tractors and repairs, talking about how American farmers are using Ukranian w4r3z to get around the restrictions. Not sure if there's anything there that will change anyone's mind one way or another, but it's an interesting facet of the tractor stuff that has been brought up in this thread before.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    mRahmani wrote: »
    EDIT: Adding onto the "weight != quality" argument, note that it's extremely common for weights to be added to products to make them feel higher quality. They don't affect the performance or durability of the product in any way, but because they're heavier, customers feel that the product is higher quality.
    Like Beats headphones.

    Does anyone know of any lists of companies that make easily-repairable products? I'd like to support them if possible.

    Beats hasn't done that for a while, and the quality has gotten better overall.

    It's a weird case where a product is getting better over time.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    Here's a recent article (from today) on tractors and repairs, talking about how American farmers are using Ukranian w4r3z to get around the restrictions. Not sure if there's anything there that will change anyone's mind one way or another, but it's an interesting facet of the tractor stuff that has been brought up in this thread before.

    At first i was like "why are there parts commonality between a Ukranian model w4r3z and an American John Deere tractor?"

    Then i realized, oh wait.. thats not a model number.

    I should probably hand my internet card back now.

    that's it, I'm shutting this entire forum down, everyone thank buttcleft
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  • JazzJazz UKRegistered User regular
    Now there's a term I've not read in a long, long time.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD along with you if I get drunk well I know I'm gonna be gonna be the man whoRegistered User regular
    Here's a recent article (from today) on tractors and repairs, talking about how American farmers are using Ukranian w4r3z to get around the restrictions. Not sure if there's anything there that will change anyone's mind one way or another, but it's an interesting facet of the tractor stuff that has been brought up in this thread before.

    The future is amazing.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Here's a recent article (from today) on tractors and repairs, talking about how American farmers are using Ukranian w4r3z to get around the restrictions. Not sure if there's anything there that will change anyone's mind one way or another, but it's an interesting facet of the tractor stuff that has been brought up in this thread before.

    The future is amazing.

    The future is downloading Ukranian hacks to get your god damn vehicle to behave without a company holding you by the balls for 400 dollars an hour.

    that's it, I'm shutting this entire forum down, everyone thank buttcleft
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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Here's a recent article (from today) on tractors and repairs, talking about how American farmers are using Ukranian w4r3z to get around the restrictions. Not sure if there's anything there that will change anyone's mind one way or another, but it's an interesting facet of the tractor stuff that has been brought up in this thread before.

    The future is amazing.

    The future is downloading Ukranian hacks to get your god damn vehicle to behave without a company holding you by the balls for 400 dollars an hour.

    The future is ThePirateBay being used entirely by either young tech-savvy people looking for free shit or middle-aged farmers from fly-over country trying to repair tractors.

    Both make good use of the porn section.

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Here's a recent article (from today) on tractors and repairs, talking about how American farmers are using Ukranian w4r3z to get around the restrictions. Not sure if there's anything there that will change anyone's mind one way or another, but it's an interesting facet of the tractor stuff that has been brought up in this thread before.

    The future is amazing.

    Holy shit dude

    I love this quote: "There's software out there a guy can get his hands on if he looks for it," one farmer and repair mechanic in Nebraska who uses cracked John Deere software told me."

    wtf

    f4rMorZ ?!?

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  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard Registered User regular
    The planned obsolescence part is really scary.
    If/When they decide in 5 years that your vehicle is no longer supported, they just brick it.
    Car manufacturers have been going this way for a while, and will continue to do so, and I foresee piggy backing on this to be able to choose when their cars are out of date and you must update.

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  • NinjeffNinjeff Registered User regular
    I have to wonder what some of you guys are doing to your tools. We've used Milwakee and DeWalt stuff for years and years in a incredibly irresponsible fashion and have never really had any issues to speak of. Dirt, mud, sticks, rain, back of the truck, left out in the field etc and so far no real issues.
    Sure, some
    The planned obsolescence part is really scary.
    If/When they decide in 5 years that your vehicle is no longer supported, they just brick it.
    Car manufacturers have been going this way for a while, and will continue to do so, and I foresee piggy backing on this to be able to choose when their cars are out of date and you must update.

    I cant think of a single car manufacturer that does that.
    There has been software errors, but i've not heard of a manufacturer being ballsy enough to brick a car on purpose.

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  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard Registered User regular
    Ninjeff wrote: »
    I have to wonder what some of you guys are doing to your tools. We've used Milwakee and DeWalt stuff for years and years in a incredibly irresponsible fashion and have never really had any issues to speak of. Dirt, mud, sticks, rain, back of the truck, left out in the field etc and so far no real issues.
    Sure, some
    The planned obsolescence part is really scary.
    If/When they decide in 5 years that your vehicle is no longer supported, they just brick it.
    Car manufacturers have been going this way for a while, and will continue to do so, and I foresee piggy backing on this to be able to choose when their cars are out of date and you must update.

    I cant think of a single car manufacturer that does that.
    There has been software errors, but i've not heard of a manufacturer being ballsy enough to brick a car on purpose.

    Cars can be remotely bricked now. If you report your BMW or Mercedes as stolen, they can remotely brick it from afar.

    I really do believe this is coming, and will be worked into your lease agreements, at the very least. Don't return your leased car by the end, they brick it until you return it or talk to them. Have an auto loan that you're behind payments on? Brick. Car is 7-10 years old, parts are not available at the dealership, and it's not worth much for the 1st party dealership to try to resell? Brick and recycle it. Take it to an unauthorized repair shop, thus in breach of the contract you signed when you bought the car from them which gave them exclusivity to repairing your vehicle? Brick.

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  • zepherinzepherin Registered User regular
    Ninjeff wrote: »
    I have to wonder what some of you guys are doing to your tools. We've used Milwakee and DeWalt stuff for years and years in a incredibly irresponsible fashion and have never really had any issues to speak of. Dirt, mud, sticks, rain, back of the truck, left out in the field etc and so far no real issues.
    Sure, some
    The planned obsolescence part is really scary.
    If/When they decide in 5 years that your vehicle is no longer supported, they just brick it.
    Car manufacturers have been going this way for a while, and will continue to do so, and I foresee piggy backing on this to be able to choose when their cars are out of date and you must update.

    I cant think of a single car manufacturer that does that.
    There has been software errors, but i've not heard of a manufacturer being ballsy enough to brick a car on purpose.

    Cars can be remotely bricked now. If you report your BMW or Mercedes as stolen, they can remotely brick it from afar.

    I really do believe this is coming, and will be worked into your lease agreements, at the very least. Don't return your leased car by the end, they brick it until you return it or talk to them. Have an auto loan that you're behind payments on? Brick. Car is 7-10 years old, parts are not available at the dealership, and it's not worth much for the 1st party dealership to try to resell? Brick and recycle it. Take it to an unauthorized repair shop, thus in breach of the contract you signed when you bought the car from them which gave them exclusivity to repairing your vehicle? Brick.
    My dad had a high risk auto loan, and the dealer had a special interlock installed, that if it was over 10 days late the car wouldn't start.

    I don't think they'll be able to Brick it for using unauthorized repair shops, that I think runs afowl of current warranty laws, and bricking a car at 7-10 years old is likely not going to happen for many reasons. Mostly old people. The other items with leases and auto loans, those are happening in some areas.

  • mRahmanimRahmani DetroitRegistered User regular
    Stolen Mercs are eventually recovered, reflashed, and resold.

    Immobilizers installed on vehicles from shady loan sharks have been a thing for a long time, but are not related to "right to repair."

    Leased cars are owned by the manufacturer. I haven't heard of any being bricked, but considering that it's a rental owned by the leasing company, it falls under the same category as immobilizers.

    No car company is going to actively go out and brick a 7-10 year old car. The average vehicle on the road is 11.5 years old, and that number is growing, not shrinking. By that age the car is almost always paid off and owned by a private individual or third party that has a strong vested interest in not destroying their own personal property.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    Ninjeff wrote: »
    I have to wonder what some of you guys are doing to your tools. We've used Milwakee and DeWalt stuff for years and years in a incredibly irresponsible fashion and have never really had any issues to speak of. Dirt, mud, sticks, rain, back of the truck, left out in the field etc and so far no real issues.
    Sure, some
    The planned obsolescence part is really scary.
    If/When they decide in 5 years that your vehicle is no longer supported, they just brick it.
    Car manufacturers have been going this way for a while, and will continue to do so, and I foresee piggy backing on this to be able to choose when their cars are out of date and you must update.

    I cant think of a single car manufacturer that does that.
    There has been software errors, but i've not heard of a manufacturer being ballsy enough to brick a car on purpose.

    Cars can be remotely bricked now. If you report your BMW or Mercedes as stolen, they can remotely brick it from afar.

    I really do believe this is coming, and will be worked into your lease agreements, at the very least. Don't return your leased car by the end, they brick it until you return it or talk to them. Have an auto loan that you're behind payments on? Brick. Car is 7-10 years old, parts are not available at the dealership, and it's not worth much for the 1st party dealership to try to resell? Brick and recycle it. Take it to an unauthorized repair shop, thus in breach of the contract you signed when you bought the car from them which gave them exclusivity to repairing your vehicle? Brick.

    There are already means to do this for leases and, more importantly, cares that you're buying via payment plan.

    There have been numerous reports of people being shut down for being a day late, in the middle of traffic, unable to move the car. and worse.

    that's it, I'm shutting this entire forum down, everyone thank buttcleft
  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD along with you if I get drunk well I know I'm gonna be gonna be the man whoRegistered User regular
    Don't return your leased car by the end, they brick it until you return it or talk to them. Have an auto loan that you're behind payments on? Brick.

    We're already there in some cases. Not because of the auto manufacturers, but because of sleazy "no credit check" lenders.

    John Oliver and NPR have done segments on this.

    The business model of those lenders involves a lot of repossession. They give car loans to people who they know are high-risk, because when the buyer loses their job or otherwise can't make a payment, they'll repossess the car. Then they'll sell the same car to somebody else. They make far more money on the usurious interest rates and up-front lending fees than they lose from depreciation.

    So many of them outfit the cars with aftermarket remote killswitch devices that let them disable the car if the buyer is late on a payment. Even by one day.

    NPR:

    http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2014/10/16/356693782/your-car-wont-start-did-you-make-the-loan-payment

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  • NinjeffNinjeff Registered User regular
    Yea all that stuff is possible, but the specific issue i was commenting on was Auto manufacturers building in software obsolecence to brick a car after X amount of time.

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  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard Registered User regular
    I sincerely had no idea we were there already.
    TIL and all that....

  • Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    Ninjeff wrote: »
    Yea all that stuff is possible, but the specific issue i was commenting on was Auto manufacturers building in software obsolecence to brick a car after X amount of time.

    Yeah, when the Odometer rolls over, the engine stops turning over type of thing.

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  • mRahmanimRahmani DetroitRegistered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Nobody is going to do that, because nobody would ever buy cars from that OEM again.

    Cars are not iPhones, they're a durable good and intended to last for a long time. The standard powertrain warranty on a car is 60,000 miles. The expectation is literally that you can drive 60,000 miles and have absolutely nothing break. Modern cars sneeze at 100,000 miles. 200,000 miles is the new normal. 300 or 400k is perfectly achieveable with basic service and maintenance. There's nothing to be gained from shutting down a car at X miles, because that customer isn't going to come in and buy a new car. They're going to go buy another used car, and also badmouth your product to everyone around them for the rest of their lives.

    Cars are also an emotional purchase, and there are plenty of cars that are 60 or 80 or 100 years old and still functioning. That type of cultural investment into a brand is incredibly valuable and sought after, and bricking a car would run counter to that as well.

    EDIT: Also worth noting that even though used car buyers aren't contributing directly to a company's new car sales, they still add margin to it's revenue stream. Those people still need parts to keep their cars running, and dealer service for particularly troublesome fixes. It's in the company's interest to help their customers keep those cars on the road.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Literally all that can be said about a tractor, too. They write just as many songs about tractors as cars even. And where we are with tractors is the main topic of this thread.

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    Literally all that can be said about a tractor, too. They write just as many songs about tractors as cars even. And where we are with tractors is the main topic of this thread.

    Alright, so the thing about tractors is that we're talking industrial tractors. Have you seen a modern tractor? The fucking things have air conditioned cabs, come with GPS and typically the "driver" is only in it for appearances as they can run themselves just fine. These are not "She thinks my tractor's sexy" tractors. The cost of these things are usually six figures if not seven and the market for them is heavily trended towards large agri-business ventures. The complaints are coming from the smaller market players who don't have enough influence to stop this trend when the manufacturers are willing to focus on the huge players to get contracts with them. Small companies are either left to fall increasingly behind in technology driven efficiency or suck it up and take the deals the big corporate customers would take but with a tiny fraction of the bargaining power to defray the costs of things like maintenance contracts.

    The size of the market along with who makes the purchasing decision (corporate committees versus individuals) makes a huge difference in how this plays out.

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    This thread seems like the right place for this.

    http://gizmodo.com/supreme-court-printer-cartridge-case-could-be-the-citiz-1793643311
    At its most basic, the case is a dispute over Lexmark’s patent rights regarding refilling printer cartridges. Impression Products is a small business with about 25 employees. It specializes in buying used printer cartridges and re-manufacturing them. In 2012, Lexmark decided to add Impression to an already existing lawsuit against other re-manufacturers. While the other defendants eventually settled, Impression has stuck it out and the case has made it to the highest court in the land.

    You can read the full, technical details of the case here but the simple version goes like this: Since the ‘90s, Lexmark has used what’s called a “shrink-wrap license” with its cartridges. It offers a “prebate” to consumers by knocking off 20% of the price in exchange for their agreement to never resell or reuse the cartridge. The consumer agrees to this the second they open the package. Essentially, Lexmark believes that those cartridges belong to them, not the consumer reselling them because the consumer didn’t have the right to sell them in the first place.

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  • mRahmanimRahmani DetroitRegistered User regular
  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Ninjeff wrote: »
    I have to wonder what some of you guys are doing to your tools. We've used Milwakee and DeWalt stuff for years and years in a incredibly irresponsible fashion and have never really had any issues to speak of. Dirt, mud, sticks, rain, back of the truck, left out in the field etc and so far no real issues.
    Sure, some
    The planned obsolescence part is really scary.
    If/When they decide in 5 years that your vehicle is no longer supported, they just brick it.
    Car manufacturers have been going this way for a while, and will continue to do so, and I foresee piggy backing on this to be able to choose when their cars are out of date and you must update.

    I cant think of a single car manufacturer that does that.
    There has been software errors, but i've not heard of a manufacturer being ballsy enough to brick a car on purpose.

    Cars can be remotely bricked now. If you report your BMW or Mercedes as stolen, they can remotely brick it from afar.

    I really do believe this is coming, and will be worked into your lease agreements, at the very least. Don't return your leased car by the end, they brick it until you return it or talk to them. Have an auto loan that you're behind payments on? Brick. Car is 7-10 years old, parts are not available at the dealership, and it's not worth much for the 1st party dealership to try to resell? Brick and recycle it. Take it to an unauthorized repair shop, thus in breach of the contract you signed when you bought the car from them which gave them exclusivity to repairing your vehicle? Brick.

    What a bunch of bricks.

    Drez on
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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Even if that theory held up, Lexmark would seem to have to take it up with the person that bought the cartridges. They clearly don't own the carts, since the end user can simply throw them away, and any breach of contract happened on the part of the buyer of the cartridges.

    That's on top of shrinkwrap licenses being mostly bullshit.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Even if that theory held up, Lexmark would seem to have to take it up with the person that bought the cartridges. They clearly don't own the carts, since the end user can simply throw them away, and any breach of contract happened on the part of the buyer of the cartridges.

    That's on top of shrinkwrap licenses being mostly bullshit.

    There is a big push in a lot of areas for this "oh you dont own it, you just have a license to use it" bullshit.

    Wihch is utter bullshit of the highest magnitude. If I buy a car, a tractor, a fucking printer cartridge..I fucking own it, you cant dictate what I do with it.

    that's it, I'm shutting this entire forum down, everyone thank buttcleft
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  • redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Even if that theory held up, Lexmark would seem to have to take it up with the person that bought the cartridges. They clearly don't own the carts, since the end user can simply throw them away, and any breach of contract happened on the part of the buyer of the cartridges.

    That's on top of shrinkwrap licenses being mostly bullshit.

    There is a big push in a lot of areas for this "oh you dont own it, you just have a license to use it" bullshit.

    Wihch is utter bullshit of the highest magnitude. If I buy a car, a tractor, a fucking printer cartridge..I fucking own it, you cant dictate what I do with it.

    eh... your car has a lot of software in it.

    you can't copy that software to another device and sell it.

    This machine kills threads.
  • DedwrekkaDedwrekka What Would Nyarlathotep Do? Registered User regular
    redx wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Even if that theory held up, Lexmark would seem to have to take it up with the person that bought the cartridges. They clearly don't own the carts, since the end user can simply throw them away, and any breach of contract happened on the part of the buyer of the cartridges.

    That's on top of shrinkwrap licenses being mostly bullshit.

    There is a big push in a lot of areas for this "oh you dont own it, you just have a license to use it" bullshit.

    Wihch is utter bullshit of the highest magnitude. If I buy a car, a tractor, a fucking printer cartridge..I fucking own it, you cant dictate what I do with it.

    eh... your car has a lot of software in it.

    you can't copy that software to another device and sell it.

    I'm not sure where you're going with this because your example is just classic software piracy.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    redx wrote: »
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Even if that theory held up, Lexmark would seem to have to take it up with the person that bought the cartridges. They clearly don't own the carts, since the end user can simply throw them away, and any breach of contract happened on the part of the buyer of the cartridges.

    That's on top of shrinkwrap licenses being mostly bullshit.

    There is a big push in a lot of areas for this "oh you dont own it, you just have a license to use it" bullshit.

    Wihch is utter bullshit of the highest magnitude. If I buy a car, a tractor, a fucking printer cartridge..I fucking own it, you cant dictate what I do with it.

    eh... your car has a lot of software in it.

    you can't copy that software to another device and sell it.

    I'm not sure where you're going with this because your example is just classic software piracy.

    You wouldn't download a printer cartridge, would you?

    that's it, I'm shutting this entire forum down, everyone thank buttcleft
  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Rule #1 of Space Kinko's: Don't print a printer.

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  • chrishallett83chrishallett83 Hi! Registered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    I recently repaired my vacuum, everything was more accessible than I expected. Good on you Hoover.

    I've bought and replaced parts on my Fisher and Paykel washing machine, my Westinghouse fridge, my Dyson vacuum cleaner, and also the old Chef stove in my last rental apartment all from the manufacturer. I've bought parts online for my PS3 and repaired that. Self-repair is doable, you just have to be willing to dig in and get your hands dirty, and try to purchase from brands with parts availability in the first place.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    Louis Rossmann, perpetual thorn in Apple's side and definitely not an Apple authorized repair center, has had 20 Apple laptop batteries seized by CBP, due to Apple's claims that they're counterfeit.



    These are batteries for Apple products they will no longer repair, nor will they sell the batteries to anyone, their authorized repair centers included. Rossmann sourced 20 of them that had been removed from existing laptops and imported them. They were seized, coincidentally of course, just after the CBC report on Apple's ludicrous pricing for repairs.

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  • tyrannustyrannus Registered User regular
    Fuck Apple's policies on this

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    I was just watching another of his videos complaining about Geek Squad and Apple and... I like the guy even if I don't agree with him on some stuff.

    But all that said...
    tyrannus wrote: »
    Fuck Apple's policies on this

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Planned obsolescence is a practice that is pretty much indefensible.
    Forced obsolescence goes beyond, and becomes abhorrent.

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