I thought they might hang on until most people are getting up (it's 2:45am here) but the Conservatives have already announced they're suspending campaigning tomorrow. I expect the other political parties in the UK will do the same.
*edit* Labour, Liberal Democrats and SNP have all suspended campaigning.
This is when I'm so glad for that Facebook check in safe thing, I have a friend who used to work there.
Yeah, I presume nobody I know would have been in town on a Monday night but it's reassuring all the same to have people pop up letting me know they are alive.
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@Liiya I couldn't remember if you were in Manchester more, or if that was where university was. But I checked here before panicked checking on Facebook.
Went to bed last night thinking this was just a case of mass hysteria after a stage prop malfunctioned. I could not have been more wrong. Fucking hell.
I feel so, so bad for the UK. This attack is horrific and those kids didn't deserve it. When I think about how this will be kicked back and forth as a hot topic for the rest of the election campaign I just cringe.
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Terrorism is at a low point, even if fear of terrorism is up. There's more to fear from stairs, motorcylists and farm animals than terrorists these days.
The reaction we have is to not let this lure us into making stupid decisions which shed more blood and are essentially the goal with attacks like these.
We remain strong and compassionate, we mourn the losses, we come together and we rebuild. And we don't let them threaten us into shedding our better selves through fear or shock. That's how you respond.
One Telegraph columnist has already suggested 'internment of thousands of terrorist suspects'. K*tie H*pkins demanded, literally, a 'final solution'.
Look, she's just lost a load of money in a court case, nobody watched her TV show, and she lost her job at the Sun (I imagine it is only a matter of time when it comes to her radio show and her Daily Mail job); her job relies on her upsetting people so proposing a "final solution" right after a terrorist attack is par of the course when it comes to this dreadful troll.
The best thing to do is ignore her, unless she does something that can result in her losing another job or be investigated by the police.
Christ almighty. The Guardian is reporting that British security services have released the name of the bomber because they passed the information to US officials, who then passed it to the press when they'd explicitly been told not to.
Christ almighty. The Guardian is reporting that British security services have released the name of the bomber because they passed the information to US officials, who then passed it to the press when they'd explicitly been told not to.
I am shocked that the Trump administration would release privileged intelligence in order to get their brown people hate on.
So, uh, sorry about Trump there UK-ers. We'll officially shut up about WWII now.
Christ almighty. The Guardian is reporting that British security services have released the name of the bomber because they passed the information to US officials, who then passed it to the press when they'd explicitly been told not to.
Police confirmed the 22-year-old’s identity after officials in the United States passed it to news reporters, apparently against the wishes of the police and security services in the UK.
Christ almighty. The Guardian is reporting that British security services have released the name of the bomber because they passed the information to US officials, who then passed it to the press when they'd explicitly been told not to.
For fucks sake.
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Apparently OpSec is something that happens to other people, in the Trump administration.
Apparently OpSec is something that happens to other people, in the Trump administration.
I don't want to be overly cynical but I doubt this was a failure of OpSec so much as an intentional choice to get a Muslim face on this tragedy as soon as possible for Trump's political gain.
Christ almighty. The Guardian is reporting that British security services have released the name of the bomber because they passed the information to US officials, who then passed it to the press when they'd explicitly been told not to.
For fucks sake.
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Autono Wally has it above
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FencingsaxIt is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understandingGNU Terry PratchettRegistered Userregular
I mean surely we will have to seriously consider passing on security information to America now if they can't keep things secret.
They probably gave it to the US for them to find leads and information from their intelligence services but it was shared with some official who couldn't keep it to themselves. Shocking but not surprising given the current US admin.
They can't really stop giving information like this to the US if they want access to their intelligence resources without it impacting security, no? They might chose to be more discreet in who they share intelligence with but they won't stop.
Christ almighty. The Guardian is reporting that British security services have released the name of the bomber because they passed the information to US officials, who then passed it to the press when they'd explicitly been told not to.
Police confirmed the 22-year-old’s identity after officials in the United States passed it to news reporters, apparently against the wishes of the police and security services in the UK.
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why??
Fuck them so hard! What a bunch of sorry excuses for human beings.
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*edit* Labour, Liberal Democrats and SNP have all suspended campaigning.
This makes sense, the security at the arena is very tight getting in from what I remember.
Christ this is awful.
@lonelyahava we only have a few mancs and I've seen they're okay. Thank you for asking.
Attacker died at the scene and is believed to have had an improvised explosive device which he exploded.
Yeah, I presume nobody I know would have been in town on a Monday night but it's reassuring all the same to have people pop up letting me know they are alive.
I'm glad all of us are ok.
Cripes I'm sorry. I don't know what else to say.
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Yeah this is awful, there are no words.
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Youngest fatality is primary school age.
There is no way this attack wasn't designed to specifically murder children. It was an Ariana Grande concert for God's sake.
How do you react to that? The primal parts of my brain are screaming 'complete annihilation', but that wouldn't even work.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/many-people-killed-terrorist-attacks-uk/
Terrorism is at a low point, even if fear of terrorism is up. There's more to fear from stairs, motorcylists and farm animals than terrorists these days.
We remain strong and compassionate, we mourn the losses, we come together and we rebuild. And we don't let them threaten us into shedding our better selves through fear or shock. That's how you respond.
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Wait no it lead to three decades of bloody terrorist war, didn't it?
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I refuse to even sarcastically 'awesome' that.
I hope cooler heads prevail in this time of tragedy. My heart goes out to those injured or killed and their grieving family and friends.
Look, she's just lost a load of money in a court case, nobody watched her TV show, and she lost her job at the Sun (I imagine it is only a matter of time when it comes to her radio show and her Daily Mail job); her job relies on her upsetting people so proposing a "final solution" right after a terrorist attack is par of the course when it comes to this dreadful troll.
The best thing to do is ignore her, unless she does something that can result in her losing another job or be investigated by the police.
Cowardice is easy for the weak and entitled.
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I am shocked that the Trump administration would release privileged intelligence in order to get their brown people hate on.
So, uh, sorry about Trump there UK-ers. We'll officially shut up about WWII now.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/23/manchester-arena-attacker-named-salman-abedi-suicide-attack-ariana-grande JFC
why??
For fucks sake.
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I don't want to be overly cynical but I doubt this was a failure of OpSec so much as an intentional choice to get a Muslim face on this tragedy as soon as possible for Trump's political gain.
Autono Wally has it above
They probably already started that consideration before the weekend, because Trump is an incompetent boob who wants to be seen as one of the cool kids
They probably gave it to the US for them to find leads and information from their intelligence services but it was shared with some official who couldn't keep it to themselves. Shocking but not surprising given the current US admin.
They can't really stop giving information like this to the US if they want access to their intelligence resources without it impacting security, no? They might chose to be more discreet in who they share intelligence with but they won't stop.
Fuck them so hard! What a bunch of sorry excuses for human beings.