[Bad Food Thread] "I'd stick with soylent. Never know what chimera that meat came from..."

NotoriusBEN

The only thing missing from my cyberpunk future was a red dragon racing a Tokyo bullet train on its way to Mt. Fuji.

I mean seriously.
The government is run by a corporate executive, and we have VR now.
It's just the food arrived 50 years ago.

DouglasDanger

Eat at Arby's

Jedoc

Ran out of pepperoni but I still had half a recipe of pizza dough in the fridge. Found some sausage in the freezer, so now I'm having sausage and mushroom pan pizza.

bowen

I wish it was socially acceptable to bring pepperoni to work and snack on it.

Jimothy

bowen wrote: »

I wish it was socially acceptable to bring pepperoni to work and snack on it.

That doesn't sound so unusual to me

Maybe not like pizza or sandwich pepperoni, though even that seems fine

Stuff you slice yourself wouldn't stand out at all

bowen

Jimothy wrote: »

bowen wrote: »

I wish it was socially acceptable to bring pepperoni to work and snack on it.

That doesn't sound so unusual to me

Maybe not like pizza or sandwich pepperoni, though even that seems fine

Stuff you slice yourself wouldn't stand out at all

a big ol' bag of hormel pepperoni

Platy

Is the title a Futurama quote

It sounds like a Futurama quote

POKÉMON MASTER WT SHERMAN

bowen wrote: »

I wish it was socially acceptable to bring pepperoni to work and snack on it.

be the change you want to see in the world

webguy20

In the other thread we were talking about butchering and I'm of the firm belief that you should have a go at making your food from scratch. Grow a little vegetable patch, and if you eat meat then butcher a bird, gut and clean a large fish, dress a game animal, whatever. Really understand the basis of where food comes from. I'm a firm believer in if you own a car you should know how to change the oil, tires, check fluids, have a basic understanding of how the car functions, same with a house, etc etc.

Not saying that anybody has to do it this way, but having a bit of hands on experience can be a pretty big deal, even if you don't apply those skills/knowledge every time.

If nothing else it makes it harder to get scammed.

Jedoc

But the people who cut up my meat at the grocery store butcher counter are the closest thing I'll ever have to servants. Just let me have this.

webguy20

Jedoc wrote: »

But the people who cut up my meat at the grocery store butcher counter are the closest thing I'll ever have to servants. Just let me have this.

I love watching the folks at the butcher shop I go to. They are like magicians with knives, cleavers and a slightly disturbing bandsaw.

sarukun

webguy20 wrote: »

In the other thread we were talking about butchering and I'm of the firm belief that you should have a go at making your food from scratch. Grow a little vegetable patch, and if you eat meat then butcher a bird, gut and clean a large fish, dress a game animal, whatever. Really understand the basis of where food comes from. I'm a firm believer in if you own a car you should know how to change the oil, tires, check fluids, have a basic understanding of how the car functions, same with a house, etc etc.

Not saying that anybody has to do it this way, but having a bit of hands on experience can be a pretty big deal, even if you don't apply those skills/knowledge every time.

If nothing else it makes it harder to get scammed.

I am way more interested in learning to kill and butcher my own meat than learning the first damn thing about a car.

I do not give any amount of shit about cars and I ain't fixin' to learn now.

Wake me when the motor is four batteries on each wheel and a computer.

Donovan Puppyfucker

sarukun wrote: »

webguy20 wrote: »

In the other thread we were talking about butchering and I'm of the firm belief that you should have a go at making your food from scratch. Grow a little vegetable patch, and if you eat meat then butcher a bird, gut and clean a large fish, dress a game animal, whatever. Really understand the basis of where food comes from. I'm a firm believer in if you own a car you should know how to change the oil, tires, check fluids, have a basic understanding of how the car functions, same with a house, etc etc.

Not saying that anybody has to do it this way, but having a bit of hands on experience can be a pretty big deal, even if you don't apply those skills/knowledge every time.

If nothing else it makes it harder to get scammed.

I am way more interested in learning to kill and butcher my own meat than learning the first damn thing about a car.

I do not give any amount of shit about cars and I ain't fixin' to learn now.

Wake me when the motor is four batteries on each wheel and a computer.

Knowing how to do basic maintenance on your own car is a very good way to save a shitload of money though. Money which you could put towards learning how to be a butcher!

ahava

@#pipe The basic idea of why it matters what parts are in the food is that such information is actually quite critical for things like keeping Kosher. Beef is Kosher, but only if the meat is from the first half of the animal. Anything after the (13th? I think) rib is not Kosher because it's close to the excretory tract.

So while no, in most instances I guess most people don't and/or shouldn't care which part of the animal things come from so long as it tastes good. But it does actually matter. Even if you don't understand why.

Brainleech

sarukun wrote: »

webguy20 wrote: »

In the other thread we were talking about butchering and I'm of the firm belief that you should have a go at making your food from scratch. Grow a little vegetable patch, and if you eat meat then butcher a bird, gut and clean a large fish, dress a game animal, whatever. Really understand the basis of where food comes from. I'm a firm believer in if you own a car you should know how to change the oil, tires, check fluids, have a basic understanding of how the car functions, same with a house, etc etc.

Not saying that anybody has to do it this way, but having a bit of hands on experience can be a pretty big deal, even if you don't apply those skills/knowledge every time.

If nothing else it makes it harder to get scammed.

I am way more interested in learning to kill and butcher my own meat than learning the first damn thing about a car.

I do not give any amount of shit about cars and I ain't fixin' to learn now.

Wake me when the motor is four batteries on each wheel and a computer.

That's already here
You can buy kits to convert your car to electric just Self Driving cars are on the horizon

sarukun

chrishallett83 wrote: »

sarukun wrote: »

webguy20 wrote: »

In the other thread we were talking about butchering and I'm of the firm belief that you should have a go at making your food from scratch. Grow a little vegetable patch, and if you eat meat then butcher a bird, gut and clean a large fish, dress a game animal, whatever. Really understand the basis of where food comes from. I'm a firm believer in if you own a car you should know how to change the oil, tires, check fluids, have a basic understanding of how the car functions, same with a house, etc etc.

Not saying that anybody has to do it this way, but having a bit of hands on experience can be a pretty big deal, even if you don't apply those skills/knowledge every time.

If nothing else it makes it harder to get scammed.

I am way more interested in learning to kill and butcher my own meat than learning the first damn thing about a car.

I do not give any amount of shit about cars and I ain't fixin' to learn now.

Wake me when the motor is four batteries on each wheel and a computer.

Knowing how to do basic maintenance on your own car is a very good way to save a shitload of money though. Money which you could put towards learning how to be a butcher!

I'm sure that would be relevant if I had or wanted a car.

Karl

When I finally get a car (I live in London, the fuck do I need a car for here), I'll pull my finger out and learn. Until then, BLISSFUL IGNORANCE AHOY

Lalabox

most new cars can't really be fixed all that much these days anyway. All the parts are so expensive, and engineered so that nothing will break until it's completely unfixable. i've talked to the national roadside assistance people every time i've needed to get something fixed and for the most part their job has turned into plugging their computers into the car's to make sure that yep, shit's fucked, and then calling a tow truck. I suppose there are still older cars on the roads, but apparently australia is kinda weird in that we generally have a lot more newer cars on the road since we didn't get hit as hard by the financial crisis? i can't remember exactly what i was told


also so i remember people on this forum saying that soylent is just the expensive, libertarian version of [product that came first], but what was that first one called again?

Karl

Lalabox wrote: »

most new cars can't really be fixed all that much these days anyway. All the parts are so expensive, and engineered so that nothing will break until it's completely unfixable. i've talked to the national roadside assistance people every time i've needed to get something fixed and for the most part their job has turned into plugging their computers into the car's to make sure that yep, shit's fucked, and then calling a tow truck. I suppose there are still older cars on the roads, but apparently australia is kinda weird in that we generally have a lot more newer cars on the road since we didn't get hit as hard by the financial crisis? i can't remember exactly what i was told


also so i remember people on this forum saying that soylent is just the expensive, libertarian version of [product that came first], but what was that first one called again?

gruel?

Donovan Puppyfucker

Lalabox wrote: »

most new cars can't really be fixed all that much these days anyway. All the parts are so expensive, and engineered so that nothing will break until it's completely unfixable. i've talked to the national roadside assistance people every time i've needed to get something fixed and for the most part their job has turned into plugging their computers into the car's to make sure that yep, shit's fucked, and then calling a tow truck. I suppose there are still older cars on the roads, but apparently australia is kinda weird in that we generally have a lot more newer cars on the road since we didn't get hit as hard by the financial crisis? i can't remember exactly what i was told

also so i remember people on this forum saying that soylent is just the expensive, libertarian version of [product that came first], but what was that first one called again?

That's not really true at all. Granted, with the continued integration of computer systems into all facets of automobile operation, complex work is getting more and more difficult for the average Joe to do at home in their driveway. All the systems in a car are still made up of parts that can be removed and replaced, though. If your power steering fails on a new car with an electric power-assist system, then instead of replacing the hydraulic pump on the engine, you would replace the actuator on the steering column. All the mechanical parts can still be removed and replaced by a person with a decent tool kit and some spare time, it's the electrical stuff that is getting out of reach. And again, things like sensors can be replaced in the driveway, it's when the ECU or body control module shits the bed that is difficult to diagnose and extremely expensive to replace.

Lalabox

chrishallett83 wrote: »

Lalabox wrote: »

most new cars can't really be fixed all that much these days anyway. All the parts are so expensive, and engineered so that nothing will break until it's completely unfixable. i've talked to the national roadside assistance people every time i've needed to get something fixed and for the most part their job has turned into plugging their computers into the car's to make sure that yep, shit's fucked, and then calling a tow truck. I suppose there are still older cars on the roads, but apparently australia is kinda weird in that we generally have a lot more newer cars on the road since we didn't get hit as hard by the financial crisis? i can't remember exactly what i was told

also so i remember people on this forum saying that soylent is just the expensive, libertarian version of [product that came first], but what was that first one called again?

That's not really true at all. Granted, with the continued integration of computer systems into all facets of automobile operation, complex work is getting more and more difficult for the average Joe to do at home in their driveway. All the systems in a car are still made up of parts that can be removed and replaced, though. If your power steering fails on a new car with an electric power-assist system, then instead of replacing the hydraulic pump on the engine, you would replace the actuator on the steering column. All the mechanical parts can still be removed and replaced by a person with a decent tool kit and some spare time, it's the electrical stuff that is getting out of reach. And again, things like sensors can be replaced in the driveway, it's when the ECU or body control module shits the bed that is difficult to diagnose and extremely expensive to replace.

yeah, that's fair enough

although, and i admit this is entirely my fault for phrasing it poorly, by "fixed" i meant "fixed by home mechanics", rather than dedicated professionals. There's still a whole lot of things that aren't impossible to fix and maintain, but, and this is speaking completely anecdotally, pretty much all the times that my (pretty fancy but still a few years old) car has failed over the last few years, with the exception of flat tires and needing to top up coolant, have needed to be fixed by a dedicated mechanic

knitdan

Lalabox wrote: »

most new cars can't really be fixed all that much these days anyway. All the parts are so expensive, and engineered so that nothing will break until it's completely unfixable. i've talked to the national roadside assistance people every time i've needed to get something fixed and for the most part their job has turned into plugging their computers into the car's to make sure that yep, shit's fucked, and then calling a tow truck. I suppose there are still older cars on the roads, but apparently australia is kinda weird in that we generally have a lot more newer cars on the road since we didn't get hit as hard by the financial crisis? i can't remember exactly what i was told


also so i remember people on this forum saying that soylent is just the expensive, libertarian version of [product that came first], but what was that first one called again?

Ensure and SlimFast are the only two meal replacement products I know of that pre-date Soylent.

Sorce

This is what I'm worried about.

https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/623700831984955397

Donovan Puppyfucker

Lalabox wrote: »

chrishallett83 wrote: »

Lalabox wrote: »

most new cars can't really be fixed all that much these days anyway. All the parts are so expensive, and engineered so that nothing will break until it's completely unfixable. i've talked to the national roadside assistance people every time i've needed to get something fixed and for the most part their job has turned into plugging their computers into the car's to make sure that yep, shit's fucked, and then calling a tow truck. I suppose there are still older cars on the roads, but apparently australia is kinda weird in that we generally have a lot more newer cars on the road since we didn't get hit as hard by the financial crisis? i can't remember exactly what i was told

also so i remember people on this forum saying that soylent is just the expensive, libertarian version of [product that came first], but what was that first one called again?

That's not really true at all. Granted, with the continued integration of computer systems into all facets of automobile operation, complex work is getting more and more difficult for the average Joe to do at home in their driveway. All the systems in a car are still made up of parts that can be removed and replaced, though. If your power steering fails on a new car with an electric power-assist system, then instead of replacing the hydraulic pump on the engine, you would replace the actuator on the steering column. All the mechanical parts can still be removed and replaced by a person with a decent tool kit and some spare time, it's the electrical stuff that is getting out of reach. And again, things like sensors can be replaced in the driveway, it's when the ECU or body control module shits the bed that is difficult to diagnose and extremely expensive to replace.

yeah, that's fair enough

although, and i admit this is entirely my fault for phrasing it poorly, by "fixed" i meant "fixed by home mechanics", rather than dedicated professionals. There's still a whole lot of things that aren't impossible to fix and maintain, but, and this is speaking completely anecdotally, pretty much all the times that my (pretty fancy but still a few years old) car has failed over the last few years, with the exception of flat tires and needing to top up coolant, have needed to be fixed by a dedicated mechanic

I suppose it depends on your circumstances, really. I'm probably keener than most to jump in and get my hands dirty because I'm a mechanic by trade, but one of the most popular car channels on Youtube is Mighty Car Mods, which is two blokes who work in the music industry stuffing about with cars in their driveways. They started off as complete amateurs and after a couple of years they were swapping bodyshells out (which is pulling two whole vehicles completely apart and making one good one out of the resulting pile of bits). It's really very similar to learning any other trade in your spare time - some people get into machining, some get into carpentry, there's folks in the home owners thread here framing walls and laying tile and such, it can all be done by almost any person with enough time and effort.

bowen

stereo to the ignition? Hasn't that always been the case? You could crank your key one way to put it in radio mode, or crank it another way (the normal way) kinda to put it in pre-start mode, that turns on lights and all the other doohickies, right?

Sorce

bowen wrote: »

stereo to the ignition? Hasn't that always been the case? You could crank your key one way to put it in radio mode, or crank it another way (the normal way) kinda to put it in pre-start mode, that turns on lights and all the other doohickies, right?

Sorry, the context was in the wake of those people that managed to gain control of a Jeep while it was driving (I think) and whatnot. All because the computer system wasn't locked down properly.

NotoriusBEN

Hacking a jeep while its going down the road? Shadowrun as fuck.

As for food-wise, there are these fried mushrooms and chicken skewers at this gas station down the road from my house and they are really good. I might be in trouble.

Veldrin

I have two bags of soylent in my cupboard from late last year that I forgot about until now.

I should probably finish them. Seems like a waste not to.

Quetzi

webguy20 wrote: »

In the other thread we were talking about butchering and I'm of the firm belief that you should have a go at making your food from scratch. Grow a little vegetable patch, and if you eat meat then butcher a bird, gut and clean a large fish, dress a game animal, whatever. Really understand the basis of where food comes from. I'm a firm believer in if you own a car you should know how to change the oil, tires, check fluids, have a basic understanding of how the car functions, same with a house, etc etc.

Not saying that anybody has to do it this way, but having a bit of hands on experience can be a pretty big deal, even if you don't apply those skills/knowledge every time.

If nothing else it makes it harder to get scammed.

How far do you take this?

Like, do you think a baker should grind their own flour? Should a bartender be distilling their own alcohol? Do you need to know how to make cheese and butter in order to make yourself a grilled cheese sandwich?

I see butchery as a skill to learn if I were into meat. Like, if I really cared about meat and wanted to have a full understanding of meat. But I do not. It is, as far as I'm concerned, a specialty skill, and I do not have the time or space to do it myself. Luckily, there are people in this world who do, and I can get them to do it for me. Am I going to always get the best cut of meat that way, will it be as good as if I did it myself? Probably not. But I also don't really care about meat, so it doesn't matter.

bowen

Growing vegetables and using them in food is easy, and fun!

Gutting, cleaning, and butchering things like cow/deer is not. I understand people should probably better understand what goes into killing an animal they eat, but I dunno if it's necessary to show them where the loin on a cow is and how to butcher a t-bone/porterhouse out of it, let alone how to do the first 3 things I listed.

Fish is probably good enough to get the point across if you want to send the message of "hey these things were alive, and now they've gotta be disassembled and prepped for me to eat."

bowen

It also becomes crazy once you get too deep into this too, because why stop at food? Go volunteer at the sewage treatment plants to get a better understanding of how much it sucks to shit in a hole compared to how awesome our plumbing and modern sanitation is.

Just crank on Dirty Jobs and appreciate how great our modern society is.

And appreciate all those manufacturing and support people so much for all the things they save you from doing in your day to day.

Uriel

Distilling no, as that is typically super illegal. Brewing is fun though.

If you are into beer or wine that is and are interested in a deeper understanding of how it is made and think it would be a fun hobby.

Quetzi

The fact that distilling is illegal was part of my point.

Because for me, it would also be illegal for me to keep animals for meat and slaughter them in my city apartment.

bowen

Straightzi wrote: »

The fact that distilling is illegal was part of my point.

Because for me, it would also be illegal for me to keep animals for meat and slaughter them in my city apartment.

The first one depends on the animal, and the second one.. might not actually have a relevant law.. maybe!

Guinea pigs are a delicacy/ceremonial-food in certain cuisines.

.. god now I feel awful

Quetzi

In the city of Chicago, I would be permitted to keep any kind of livestock, but there are restrictions on keeping them for the purpose of slaughtering them, as well as restrictions on slaughtering them in a private residence.

I've looked this one up before.

Municipal Code of Chicago 7-12-300 wrote:

No person shall own, keep or otherwise possess for their own food purposes, or slaughter, any animal; provided, however, that this prohibition shall not apply to edible byproducts, such as eggs or milk, produced by an animal.

And apparently Chicago is actually pretty permissive, comparatively - a lot of other cities have restrictions on which animals you can keep for the purposes of edible byproducts as well.

Uriel

I wonder how I can look up about Toledo.

Because I'm pretty sure some people still keep their own chickens at least in parts of the city.

bowen

what I'm seeing there is you can have chickens for eggs and cows for milk in your apartment in Chicago

so

collect a whole bunch of female guinea pigs..

#pipe

lonelyahava wrote: »

@#pipe The basic idea of why it matters what parts are in the food is that such information is actually quite critical for things like keeping Kosher. Beef is Kosher, but only if the meat is from the first half of the animal. Anything after the (13th? I think) rib is not Kosher because it's close to the excretory tract.

So while no, in most instances I guess most people don't and/or shouldn't care which part of the animal things come from so long as it tastes good. But it does actually matter. Even if you don't understand why.

You are right about that. I did not consider Kosher or Halal, I was more talking about people who don't live with those guidelines but don't want to eat certain parts because they're yucky.

azith28

So i had an idea for some bad foods.

1)Make Manwich.
2) Make cheesy mashed potatoes
3) mix together in a casserole dish, sprinkle cheese on top.
4) Bake.

I call it the Man Pie.

DouglasDanger

I had a Sheetz MTO burger on a pretzel roll with coleslaw, boom boom sauce, Swiss cheese, and pickles for lunch.

It was pretty tasty.

Indie Winter

https://twitter.com/ItsFoodPorn/status/844595116736237570