The casters encourage him to summon the Primalist "for Poland", and he does, and MIND CONTROL is one of the options... but it takes over the 2/2 Hyena =(
I now define any good paladin deck with four words.
Out of my jungle.
Maybe #1 most undervalued card this expansion?
That or Lyra.
I'm actually thinking about crafting Lyra to play a priest deck. And I've played like 30 ranked games with priest, to give you an idea.
I am still not quite sure where I want to put Elise; I think she probably fits in this paladin deck I have, the question is where, and for what.
I think Elise fits in most priest decks. Not necessary, but Shadow Visions discovering packs is really sweet.
I recall Trump being extremely flippant about Priest. I'm not going to link the vod, but he rated every card as "this sucks, because Priest." That's almost the exact quote.
Maybe priest doesn't have a t1, tournament-crushing deck. I dunno. But they have at least two iterations of strong ladder decks that are competitive against a number of styles. Dragon priest is still good, and tempo priest (of all archetypes) is a thing. They are as strong as they've been since Lightbomb rotated out.
Lyra and Shadow Visions are such good cards. I can't believe anyone would write them off.
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I now define any good paladin deck with four words.
Out of my jungle.
Maybe #1 most undervalued card this expansion?
That or Lyra.
I'm actually thinking about crafting Lyra to play a priest deck. And I've played like 30 ranked games with priest, to give you an idea.
I am still not quite sure where I want to put Elise; I think she probably fits in this paladin deck I have, the question is where, and for what.
I think Elise fits in most priest decks. Not necessary, but Shadow Visions discovering packs is really sweet.
I recall Trump being extremely flippant about Priest. I'm not going to link the vod, but he rated every card as "this sucks, because Priest." That's almost the exact quote.
Maybe priest doesn't have a t1, tournament-crushing deck. I dunno. But they have at least two iterations of strong ladder decks that are competitive against a number of styles. Dragon priest is still good, and tempo priest (of all archetypes) is a thing. They are as strong as they've been since Lightbomb rotated out.
Lyra and Shadow Visions are such good cards. I can't believe anyone would write them off.
Ukraine's Priest deck wrecked the fuck out of a taunt warrior.
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I've seen people playing a one-of mind control and that's probably correct. Gives you answers to Ysera, Primordial Drake, and the third Tirion.
I now define any good paladin deck with four words.
Out of my jungle.
Maybe #1 most undervalued card this expansion?
That or Lyra.
I'm actually thinking about crafting Lyra to play a priest deck. And I've played like 30 ranked games with priest, to give you an idea.
I am still not quite sure where I want to put Elise; I think she probably fits in this paladin deck I have, the question is where, and for what.
I think Elise fits in most priest decks. Not necessary, but Shadow Visions discovering packs is really sweet.
I recall Trump being extremely flippant about Priest. I'm not going to link the vod, but he rated every card as "this sucks, because Priest." That's almost the exact quote.
Maybe priest doesn't have a t1, tournament-crushing deck. I dunno. But they have at least two iterations of strong ladder decks that are competitive against a number of styles. Dragon priest is still good, and tempo priest (of all archetypes) is a thing. They are as strong as they've been since Lightbomb rotated out.
Lyra and Shadow Visions are such good cards. I can't believe anyone would write them off.
Lyra is Auctioneer, except better.
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I now define any good paladin deck with four words.
Out of my jungle.
Maybe #1 most undervalued card this expansion?
That or Lyra.
I'm actually thinking about crafting Lyra to play a priest deck. And I've played like 30 ranked games with priest, to give you an idea.
I am still not quite sure where I want to put Elise; I think she probably fits in this paladin deck I have, the question is where, and for what.
I think Elise fits in most priest decks. Not necessary, but Shadow Visions discovering packs is really sweet.
I recall Trump being extremely flippant about Priest. I'm not going to link the vod, but he rated every card as "this sucks, because Priest." That's almost the exact quote.
Maybe priest doesn't have a t1, tournament-crushing deck. I dunno. But they have at least two iterations of strong ladder decks that are competitive against a number of styles. Dragon priest is still good, and tempo priest (of all archetypes) is a thing. They are as strong as they've been since Lightbomb rotated out.
Lyra and Shadow Visions are such good cards. I can't believe anyone would write them off.
trump's honestly not that amazing at constructed and his opinions should be taken with more grains of salt than a lot of other streamers
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I now define any good paladin deck with four words.
Out of my jungle.
Maybe #1 most undervalued card this expansion?
That or Lyra.
I'm actually thinking about crafting Lyra to play a priest deck. And I've played like 30 ranked games with priest, to give you an idea.
I am still not quite sure where I want to put Elise; I think she probably fits in this paladin deck I have, the question is where, and for what.
I think Elise fits in most priest decks. Not necessary, but Shadow Visions discovering packs is really sweet.
I recall Trump being extremely flippant about Priest. I'm not going to link the vod, but he rated every card as "this sucks, because Priest." That's almost the exact quote.
Maybe priest doesn't have a t1, tournament-crushing deck. I dunno. But they have at least two iterations of strong ladder decks that are competitive against a number of styles. Dragon priest is still good, and tempo priest (of all archetypes) is a thing. They are as strong as they've been since Lightbomb rotated out.
Lyra and Shadow Visions are such good cards. I can't believe anyone would write them off.
trump's honestly not that amazing at constructed and his opinions should be taken with more grains of salt than a lot of other streamers
IIRC didn't he call out Shadow Visions as particularly bad? Which is just so unbelievably wrong, that card is amaaaaaazing (and looked amazing in the preview too).
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BeastehTHAT WOULD NOTKILL DRACULARegistered Userregular
lyra plus radiant elemental is really really dirty
like imagine a souped up auctioneer turn with a partial prep for each spell, and most spells are 0 mana anyway
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The Escape Goatincorrigible ruminantthey/themRegistered Userregular
I now define any good paladin deck with four words.
Out of my jungle.
Maybe #1 most undervalued card this expansion?
That or Lyra.
I'm actually thinking about crafting Lyra to play a priest deck. And I've played like 30 ranked games with priest, to give you an idea.
I am still not quite sure where I want to put Elise; I think she probably fits in this paladin deck I have, the question is where, and for what.
I think Elise fits in most priest decks. Not necessary, but Shadow Visions discovering packs is really sweet.
I recall Trump being extremely flippant about Priest. I'm not going to link the vod, but he rated every card as "this sucks, because Priest." That's almost the exact quote.
Maybe priest doesn't have a t1, tournament-crushing deck. I dunno. But they have at least two iterations of strong ladder decks that are competitive against a number of styles. Dragon priest is still good, and tempo priest (of all archetypes) is a thing. They are as strong as they've been since Lightbomb rotated out.
Lyra and Shadow Visions are such good cards. I can't believe anyone would write them off.
Lyra is Auctioneer, except better.
Ehhhhhhhh. They serve different purposes. Auctioneer is absolutely better in some sort of combo-priest, because you don't want random cards--you want the cards in your deck to pull your combo off. Hoping to pull divine spirit/inner fire/mind blast at random is not a good plan.
Lyra is, instead, a value card, like thoughsteal. It gives you cards in hand without drawing them from your deck, which is good for fatigue math, and in control mirrors for just having more stuff than your opponent has removal. Plus, in slow matchups, it lets you roll away crap low-cost cards and potentially get back higher-value spells like Mind Control, Free from Amber, and Holy Fire.
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AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
I now define any good paladin deck with four words.
Out of my jungle.
Maybe #1 most undervalued card this expansion?
That or Lyra.
I'm actually thinking about crafting Lyra to play a priest deck. And I've played like 30 ranked games with priest, to give you an idea.
I am still not quite sure where I want to put Elise; I think she probably fits in this paladin deck I have, the question is where, and for what.
I think Elise fits in most priest decks. Not necessary, but Shadow Visions discovering packs is really sweet.
Elise fits in pretty much all not-combo Priest Decks (even Dragon Priest I think). Combo Priest is not doing anything remotely near what Elise is trying to do, and the two of them in the same deck is generally a mistake.
I now define any good paladin deck with four words.
Out of my jungle.
Maybe #1 most undervalued card this expansion?
That or Lyra.
I'm actually thinking about crafting Lyra to play a priest deck. And I've played like 30 ranked games with priest, to give you an idea.
I am still not quite sure where I want to put Elise; I think she probably fits in this paladin deck I have, the question is where, and for what.
I think Elise fits in most priest decks. Not necessary, but Shadow Visions discovering packs is really sweet.
Elise fits in pretty much all not-combo Priest Decks (even Dragon Priest I think). Combo Priest is not doing anything remotely near what Elise is trying to do, and the two of them in the same deck is generally a mistake.
pretty much every remotely grindy midrangey-control deck likes elise, and that's the minimum speed priests are allowed to play at
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3cl1ps3I will build a labyrinth to house the cheeseRegistered Userregular
I now define any good paladin deck with four words.
Out of my jungle.
Maybe #1 most undervalued card this expansion?
That or Lyra.
I'm actually thinking about crafting Lyra to play a priest deck. And I've played like 30 ranked games with priest, to give you an idea.
I am still not quite sure where I want to put Elise; I think she probably fits in this paladin deck I have, the question is where, and for what.
I think Elise fits in most priest decks. Not necessary, but Shadow Visions discovering packs is really sweet.
Elise fits in pretty much all not-combo Priest Decks (even Dragon Priest I think). Combo Priest is not doing anything remotely near what Elise is trying to do, and the two of them in the same deck is generally a mistake.
pretty much every remotely grindy midrangey-control deck likes elise, and that's the minimum speed priests are allowed to play at
Dragon Priest has so much inherent value it doesn't really need her. You can put her in there I guess but eh.
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JakarrdIn the belly ofOklahomaRegistered Userregular
that mexican player's meme murloc/ysera hunter deck was hilarious because it turns out that curator + ysera completely destroys priest??
4 attack minions, my only weakness!
I'm curious if the priest player had cabal + that -3 potion in his deck. That's usually what I have in just in case I have those 4 attk hevty hp bodies to deal with.
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IIRC didn't he call out Shadow Visions as particularly bad? Which is just so unbelievably wrong, that card is amaaaaaazing (and looked amazing in the preview too).
It's helpful to understand that Trump's entire predictions strategy was intrinsically tied in evaluating cards with respect to how good/viable the class that those cards were in was going to, in his mind, fare in Un'Goro. He did not evaluate cards individually: every card was evaluated within the context of whether or not the class itself had a deck or archetype that was viable, and thus how good those cards were depended on how good were they for the potentially viable decks. Thus, every Priest card was bad, as he could not conceive of a viable Priest deck.
It's not an inherently bad methodology, it just means that if he misses on a class, he misses on every single card within that class.
IIRC didn't he call out Shadow Visions as particularly bad? Which is just so unbelievably wrong, that card is amaaaaaazing (and looked amazing in the preview too).
It's helpful to understand that Trump's entire predictions strategy was intrinsically tied in evaluating cards with respect to how good/viable the class that those cards were in was going to, in his mind, fare in Un'Goro. He did not evaluate cards individually: every card was evaluated within the context of whether or not the class itself had a deck or archetype that was viable, and thus how good those cards were depended on how good were they for the potentially viable decks. Thus, every Priest card was bad, as he could not conceive of a viable Priest deck.
It's not an inherently bad methodology, it just means that if he misses on a class, he misses on every single card within that class.
the catch with that predictions strategy is that trump is a good mechanical player and a bad deckbuilder
i cannot name a single deck that trump is known for pushing the way forward on, as opposed to people like reynad or dog or lifecoach or kibler who, regardless of skill, have definitely demonstrated the ability to design decks
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IIRC didn't he call out Shadow Visions as particularly bad? Which is just so unbelievably wrong, that card is amaaaaaazing (and looked amazing in the preview too).
It's helpful to understand that Trump's entire predictions strategy was intrinsically tied in evaluating cards with respect to how good/viable the class that those cards were in was going to, in his mind, fare in Un'Goro. He did not evaluate cards individually: every card was evaluated within the context of whether or not the class itself had a deck or archetype that was viable, and thus how good those cards were depended on how good were they for the potentially viable decks. Thus, every Priest card was bad, as he could not conceive of a viable Priest deck.
It's not an inherently bad methodology, it just means that if he misses on a class, he misses on every single card within that class.
I'd say it's a bad methodology for that reason, actually. It's too easy to misfire on that prediction (Jade Druid is here to stay! Quest Hunter will be amazing! Quest Rogue fucking sucks! etc).
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Discozoo versus Firebat Quest Rogue, the eternal battle.
IIRC didn't he call out Shadow Visions as particularly bad? Which is just so unbelievably wrong, that card is amaaaaaazing (and looked amazing in the preview too).
It's helpful to understand that Trump's entire predictions strategy was intrinsically tied in evaluating cards with respect to how good/viable the class that those cards were in was going to, in his mind, fare in Un'Goro. He did not evaluate cards individually: every card was evaluated within the context of whether or not the class itself had a deck or archetype that was viable, and thus how good those cards were depended on how good were they for the potentially viable decks. Thus, every Priest card was bad, as he could not conceive of a viable Priest deck.
It's not an inherently bad methodology, it just means that if he misses on a class, he misses on every single card within that class.
the catch with that predictions strategy is that trump is a good mechanical player and a bad deckbuilder
i cannot name a single deck that trump is known for pushing the way forward on, as opposed to people like reynad or dog or lifecoach or kibler who, regardless of skill, have definitely demonstrated the ability to design decks
That's why any streamer that gives a review of cards I take it all with a grain of salt. Trump is good analyzing sometimes, but I compare his to Reynad, Dog, and Firebat in the whole spectrum to decide if the card might be good in my playstyle AND be useful in a deck. Lyra was kinda panned intially so I held off on her till I got to possibly see her out in the field and then surprise, she turned out to be really good with radiant elemental.
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JakarrdIn the belly ofOklahomaRegistered Userregular
Quest rogue gets to complete it but will it be enough against tempo lock here? Rogue's down to 20 hp and lock has doomguard next turn.
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I laughed out loud when he said that.
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4 attack minions, my only weakness!
I recall Trump being extremely flippant about Priest. I'm not going to link the vod, but he rated every card as "this sucks, because Priest." That's almost the exact quote.
Maybe priest doesn't have a t1, tournament-crushing deck. I dunno. But they have at least two iterations of strong ladder decks that are competitive against a number of styles. Dragon priest is still good, and tempo priest (of all archetypes) is a thing. They are as strong as they've been since Lightbomb rotated out.
Lyra and Shadow Visions are such good cards. I can't believe anyone would write them off.
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Ukraine's Priest deck wrecked the fuck out of a taunt warrior.
Lyra is Auctioneer, except better.
trump's honestly not that amazing at constructed and his opinions should be taken with more grains of salt than a lot of other streamers
IIRC didn't he call out Shadow Visions as particularly bad? Which is just so unbelievably wrong, that card is amaaaaaazing (and looked amazing in the preview too).
like imagine a souped up auctioneer turn with a partial prep for each spell, and most spells are 0 mana anyway
Ehhhhhhhh. They serve different purposes. Auctioneer is absolutely better in some sort of combo-priest, because you don't want random cards--you want the cards in your deck to pull your combo off. Hoping to pull divine spirit/inner fire/mind blast at random is not a good plan.
Lyra is, instead, a value card, like thoughsteal. It gives you cards in hand without drawing them from your deck, which is good for fatigue math, and in control mirrors for just having more stuff than your opponent has removal. Plus, in slow matchups, it lets you roll away crap low-cost cards and potentially get back higher-value spells like Mind Control, Free from Amber, and Holy Fire.
Elise fits in pretty much all not-combo Priest Decks (even Dragon Priest I think). Combo Priest is not doing anything remotely near what Elise is trying to do, and the two of them in the same deck is generally a mistake.
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pretty much every remotely grindy midrangey-control deck likes elise, and that's the minimum speed priests are allowed to play at
Dragon Priest has so much inherent value it doesn't really need her. You can put her in there I guess but eh.
I'm curious if the priest player had cabal + that -3 potion in his deck. That's usually what I have in just in case I have those 4 attk hevty hp bodies to deal with.
It's helpful to understand that Trump's entire predictions strategy was intrinsically tied in evaluating cards with respect to how good/viable the class that those cards were in was going to, in his mind, fare in Un'Goro. He did not evaluate cards individually: every card was evaluated within the context of whether or not the class itself had a deck or archetype that was viable, and thus how good those cards were depended on how good were they for the potentially viable decks. Thus, every Priest card was bad, as he could not conceive of a viable Priest deck.
It's not an inherently bad methodology, it just means that if he misses on a class, he misses on every single card within that class.
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Hahah, I came from a ranch. I'm done in my older age with farmyard animals, except for those found in the hearthstone landscape.
the catch with that predictions strategy is that trump is a good mechanical player and a bad deckbuilder
i cannot name a single deck that trump is known for pushing the way forward on, as opposed to people like reynad or dog or lifecoach or kibler who, regardless of skill, have definitely demonstrated the ability to design decks
I'd say it's a bad methodology for that reason, actually. It's too easy to misfire on that prediction (Jade Druid is here to stay! Quest Hunter will be amazing! Quest Rogue fucking sucks! etc).
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That's why any streamer that gives a review of cards I take it all with a grain of salt. Trump is good analyzing sometimes, but I compare his to Reynad, Dog, and Firebat in the whole spectrum to decide if the card might be good in my playstyle AND be useful in a deck. Lyra was kinda panned intially so I held off on her till I got to possibly see her out in the field and then surprise, she turned out to be really good with radiant elemental.
Looks like they pulled it off...
Or maybe not, another disconnect possibly!
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So close though, huh! Tense ending.
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Agreed, I was pulling for the lock to pull it off!