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Nintendo Switch: Ode to Joycon

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  • edzeppedzepp Registered User regular
    It was still a good game though. And the writing was sharp.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Even though it's not a paper game, the same criticism applies to Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam. Got so sick of the paper Toad stuff, it became so rote.

    They seem intent on rehashing the same old stuff now with every RPG. No Rogueport, no Beanbean Kingdom, not even any Shroobs.

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  • bwaniebwanie Posting into the void Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    edzepp wrote: »
    Never quite got the whole argument about it being embarrassing or weird to play video games outdoors.

    Generational ostracism.

    <--80s kid, and it wasn't until I was in my late 20s that playing video games as an adult at all wasn't considered nerdy/non-adult.

    Ah, the pre-Internet days when there was zero cool side to nerdy things and vanishingly few social resources for nerds outside of large cities.

    Those days sucked.

    Man i grew up in the eighties/nineties and videgames were cool as hell. I guess it's the lack of a jock culture in my country or something related.

    Like, to be considered a nerd you'd had to be carrying around a microscope and talk way too much about dinosaurs all day.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Rabids having an amiibo focus kills it for me. I didn't buy skylanders, which is basically what anything with a bunch of amiibo stuff is.

    What is this I don't even.
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Otoh, some people are still waiting for the game that uses amiibos as well as Skylanders.

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    Yeah, the concept of Amiibos never really went beyond little statuettes, in practice. Which is fine, for what they are. There were some highfalutin NFC-based pipe dreams going on for a while, but I think that ship has sailed.

  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    Road Block wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    That image isn't really fair to Color Splash though. I know there are a ton of toads in the game that are different colors and outfits.

    Colours sure. Outfits? Some of them have accesories but that's about it. Other then the Ghost toads you have rescue toads, which are regular toads with a scarf. Their captain who is the same but with sunglasses, the Chosen toads which are generic toads with keys on their heads.

    The most elaborate toad design other then the ghosts is probably these guys.

    auy6a4ct7yh4.jpg

    Okay but that doesn't invalidate my point. Color Splash had a lot of toads, sure, but many of the important ones weren't generic looking. They all had something added to them to be different.

  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Road Block wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    That image isn't really fair to Color Splash though. I know there are a ton of toads in the game that are different colors and outfits.

    Colours sure. Outfits? Some of them have accesories but that's about it. Other then the Ghost toads you have rescue toads, which are regular toads with a scarf. Their captain who is the same but with sunglasses, the Chosen toads which are generic toads with keys on their heads.

    The most elaborate toad design other then the ghosts is probably these guys.

    auy6a4ct7yh4.jpg

    Okay but that doesn't invalidate my point. Color Splash had a lot of toads, sure, but many of the important ones weren't generic looking. They all had something added to them to be different.

    Honestly I'm trying to think of any Toads that dressed up in Color Splash other than the pirates and the rescue Toads and I'm failing.

    Really Color Splash's problem was that there was absolutely zero new characters other than Huey. Everything had to be ripped from the Mario games, and there wasn't really much of a deep dive besides (the dragon aside). The writing was great, but halfway through I was yearning for something new. And I was so, so sick of Toads everywhere.

    That's probably at least part of why I'm so intrigued by Mario + Rabbids.

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    The Japanese MHXX special edition switch is sold out.

    http://www.japanesenintendo.com/post/161191266569

    Sold out in under two hours.

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  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Shocking no one. Even I may have to try Monster Hunter again with this one. The last time I tried it was Freedom Unite on PSP, but the distressingly awful "claw" control scheme and Capcom's staunch refusal to add rebindable controls instantly turned me off to the rest of the series.

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  • CruorCruor Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »

    Looks pretty good. The combat snippits shown hint at some strategy to the fights with AoE/line attacks and the ability to reposition enemies. I'd assume that there will be gravity-well like attacks that pull enemies in for an AoE nuke. Looks pretty promising.

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  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Rabids having an amiibo focus kills it for me. I didn't buy skylanders, which is basically what anything with a bunch of amiibo stuff is.

    Where does it say it has an amiibo focus? Only thing I saw mentioned was amiibo support, which doesn't really mean shit.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Yeah there's nothing yet saying that an amiibo is required to play. For all we know it could be like the amiibo support in Smash Bros.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    I can't think of any game having an Amiibo focus at all. The closest we came was Splatoon giving you revised versions of existing challenges with the Amibos.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    I can't think of any game having an Amiibo focus at all. The closest we came was Splatoon giving you revised versions of existing challenges with the Amibos.

    Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival which required them, but came with them. But it was pointless annoyance, scan your amiibo to roll the dice etc., could've been done with a button...

    Also I think Happy Home Designer heavily used them but they weren't required.

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  • ampersanderampersander Registered User new member
    Ah man, that's got me thinking about how much I need the Switch to have an Animal Crossing game, a full-fledged I'm in this town situation. Soon.

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  • MolybdenumMolybdenum Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    I can't think of any game having an Amiibo focus at all. The closest we came was Splatoon giving you revised versions of existing challenges with the Amibos.

    <pushes up nerd glasses> WELL ACKSHUALLY

    http://minimario.nintendo.com/
    is a lovely little action puzzler that requires an amiibo to play the first 25% or so and then a series of specific mario-franchise miibs to unlock chunks of another 10% or so at a time.

    It's also free? So you could definitely choose to view it as a fringe benefit of owning any miib at all, which is a pretty low barrier to entry, but it remains a precedent for "chunks of game content locked behind these figurines."

    It also shows some worrying signs of not really thinking through the long-term suitability of miib content. Sure, you can use any one of the half-dozen Marios to unlock the Mario-themed content, but Bowser Jr. and Rosalina amiibos aren't exactly flooding the streets. MonHun is definitely a series they could hamstring by enabling even something like the Splatoon challenges, because it's popular enough that those miibs will be gone.

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  • MolybdenumMolybdenum Registered User regular
    doooom

    I think it'll be fine. The initial rush is definitely fading around here in brick & mortar, so hopefully the end of mega-goosery like this
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    is nigh.

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  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    Theres people in my local area

    selling switches for 650 cdn

    theyll even hand you the receipt that shows they paid 399

    =[

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  • HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    What a bunch of shitfuckery right there.

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »

    It's weird living in an age where Square-Enix's secondary (and even tertiary) offerings are a lot more interesting than their mainline offerings. The Bravely Default series, I Am Setsuna, this, whatever Octopath Traveler will become....

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    Warlock82 wrote: »

    It's weird living in an age where Square-Enix's secondary (and even tertiary) offerings are a lot more interesting than their mainline offerings. The Bravely Default series, I Am Setsuna, this, whatever Octopath Traveler will become....

    Except Bravely Default was pretty widely criticized for being repetitive, Bravely Second I don't recall getting a ton of positive press, and I am Setsuna I think was pretty consistently regarded as overpriced and again repetitive.

    I enjoyed all of those games to varying extents, but I don't think they're secondary IPs are some revelation next to Final Fantasy games. They're mostly solid, 80ish metacritic games.

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    So it seems our insatiable lust for Apple products (and other phones, tablets etc) is slowing Switch production.
    People in the industry say the rapid expansion of web-based services for corporations has driven demand for computer servers that use flash memory. Continued demand for Apple’s iPhone 7 and a 10th anniversary model of the iPhone expected later this year are also keeping parts makers at full capacity, helping power Japan’s economy to its longest growth streak since 2006.

    So we don't really need to blame Nintendo for shortages :) Its Toshiba and Apple and the like.

    https://segmentnext.com/2017/05/30/nintendo-switch-parts/

  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    Warlock82 wrote: »

    It's weird living in an age where Square-Enix's secondary (and even tertiary) offerings are a lot more interesting than their mainline offerings. The Bravely Default series, I Am Setsuna, this, whatever Octopath Traveler will become....

    Except Bravely Default was pretty widely criticized for being repetitive, Bravely Second I don't recall getting a ton of positive press, and I am Setsuna I think was pretty consistently regarded as overpriced and again repetitive.

    I enjoyed all of those games to varying extents, but I don't think they're secondary IPs are some revelation next to Final Fantasy games. They're mostly solid, 80ish metacritic games.

    I'm the guy who hated FF XV, was never interested in XIII, and felt XII was a huge missed opportunity. For me, 80ish metacritic games are a breath of fresh air compared to what we've been getting. Especially since these titles don't take a decade+ to make with only mediocrity to show for it.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    So it seems our insatiable lust for Apple products (and other phones, tablets etc) is slowing Switch production.
    People in the industry say the rapid expansion of web-based services for corporations has driven demand for computer servers that use flash memory. Continued demand for Apple’s iPhone 7 and a 10th anniversary model of the iPhone expected later this year are also keeping parts makers at full capacity, helping power Japan’s economy to its longest growth streak since 2006.

    So we don't really need to blame Nintendo for shortages :) Its Toshiba and Apple and the like.

    https://segmentnext.com/2017/05/30/nintendo-switch-parts/

    See? SEE? Nintendo really is competing with smartphones. :P

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    RPGs are repetitive by nature in some manner. Especially ones built around being 'nostalgia' based. The bravely games are both wonderful RPGs. That RPG they are doing for the switch was one of my favorite bits of the prerelease trailers.

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    So it seems our insatiable lust for Apple products (and other phones, tablets etc) is slowing Switch production.
    People in the industry say the rapid expansion of web-based services for corporations has driven demand for computer servers that use flash memory. Continued demand for Apple’s iPhone 7 and a 10th anniversary model of the iPhone expected later this year are also keeping parts makers at full capacity, helping power Japan’s economy to its longest growth streak since 2006.

    So we don't really need to blame Nintendo for shortages :) Its Toshiba and Apple and the like.

    https://segmentnext.com/2017/05/30/nintendo-switch-parts/

    No, see, Nintendo needed to create false shortages in hardware to up the scarcity so they engineered the whole tablet/phone popularity and part shortage problem way back in the early 2000's so that when they got around to releasing the Switch they could ride high on it.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    Warlock82 wrote: »

    It's weird living in an age where Square-Enix's secondary (and even tertiary) offerings are a lot more interesting than their mainline offerings. The Bravely Default series, I Am Setsuna, this, whatever Octopath Traveler will become....

    Except Bravely Default was pretty widely criticized for being repetitive, Bravely Second I don't recall getting a ton of positive press, and I am Setsuna I think was pretty consistently regarded as overpriced and again repetitive.

    I enjoyed all of those games to varying extents, but I don't think they're secondary IPs are some revelation next to Final Fantasy games. They're mostly solid, 80ish metacritic games.

    Bravely Default fumbled the ball hard in its second half, true. The most boring and repetitive stuff is mandatory, the interesting stuff is optional (but obvious), and the true ending dives into a plot hole. It's a damn shame, because the first half and ending are good, and the game is mechanically really good and fun to play.

    Bravely Second basically fixed every one of those problems. The second half isn't a slog of rote actions, despite pulling off a twist similar to the one that sunk BD's last few chapters, the story doesn't require the characters to be out of character or stupid, and the fights that are repeated are all remixed in interesting ways.

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    There's a very much unsubstantiated rumor that Pokken Tournament is coming to the Switch:



    All the grains of salt etc.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    Theres people in my local area

    selling switches for 650 cdn

    theyll even hand you the receipt that shows they paid 399

    =[

    I mean at that point Id just import.

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    If I was running Nintendo, I'd port every big Wii U title to the Switch at a heavily reduced price ($20). It fleshes out the library at a low cost to you and the consumer while giving older games that a lot of people missed a chance to shine. Roll them out monthly to fill in the downtime between original IP/Switch content.

    Off the top of my head:
    • Bayonetta 1/2 (if possible)
    • Captain Toad
    • DKC: TF
    • Kirby and the Rainbow Curse (portable only)
    • Zelda: TPHD
    • Zelda: WWHD
    • NES Remix Pack (contains both games)
    • New Super Mario Bros w/Luigi content
    • Paper Mario: Color Splash
    • Pushmo
    • Starfox Zero (with reworked controls)
    • Super Mario Maker (a must)
    • Tokyo Mirage Sessions
    • Wonderful 101
    • Yoshi: Wolly World

    If you want to get real ambitious, you release a "Save transfer tool" for Switch/Wii U that let's players transfer any existing save files.

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  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    Theres people in my local area

    selling switches for 650 cdn

    theyll even hand you the receipt that shows they paid 399

    =[

    I mean at that point Id just import.

    from where? there are some instock online?

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  • TDawgTDawg Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    If I was running Nintendo, I'd port every big Wii U title to the Switch at a heavily reduced price ($20). It fleshes out the library at a low cost to you and the consumer while giving older games that a lot of people missed a chance to shine. Roll them out monthly to fill in the downtime between original IP/Switch content.

    If you want to get real ambitious, you release a "Save transfer tool" for Switch/Wii U that let's players transfer any existing save files.

    $20? Come on. I'd love if it would happen, but Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is full price AND selling like hotcakes. I know not every game is Mario Kart and wouldn't sell banana bonkers, but for those games they'd probably rather just not port it over altogether.

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  • TimFijiTimFiji Beast Lord Halfway2AnywhereRegistered User regular
    Man I'd kill for that DKC TF port, though

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    It's weird living in an age where Square-Enix's secondary (and even tertiary) offerings are a lot more interesting than their mainline offerings. The Bravely Default series, I Am Setsuna, this, whatever Octopath Traveler will become....

    Except Bravely Default was pretty widely criticized for being repetitive, Bravely Second I don't recall getting a ton of positive press, and I am Setsuna I think was pretty consistently regarded as overpriced and again repetitive.

    I enjoyed all of those games to varying extents, but I don't think they're secondary IPs are some revelation next to Final Fantasy games. They're mostly solid, 80ish metacritic games.

    No, he's right. Square-Enix's secondary games are better than their primary ones. Bravely Default was awesome, loved it the whole way through. It's more pure Final Fantasy than Final Fantasy anymore. If their primary teams refuse to go back to the roots of what made their games fun, I'm glad someone over there is willing to try.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Given the vast amount of post-release content just for arcades it would make perfect business sense to bring Pokken to Switch.

    Though holy shit, the amount of fighting games that have come out in the last couple of months! I completely forgot Tekken 7's coming out, and I might not be the only one.

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    Theres people in my local area

    selling switches for 650 cdn

    theyll even hand you the receipt that shows they paid 399

    =[

    I mean at that point Id just import.

    from where? there are some instock online?

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    fRAWRst wrote: »
    Theres people in my local area

    selling switches for 650 cdn

    theyll even hand you the receipt that shows they paid 399

    =[

    I mean at that point Id just import.

    from where? there are some instock online?

    Nippon-Yasan has grey models in stock: https://www.nippon-yasan.com/game-consoles/19878-nintendo-switch-joy-con-l-r-gray.html

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