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Nintendo Switch: Ode to Joycon

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    TDawg wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    If I was running Nintendo, I'd port every big Wii U title to the Switch at a heavily reduced price ($20). It fleshes out the library at a low cost to you and the consumer while giving older games that a lot of people missed a chance to shine. Roll them out monthly to fill in the downtime between original IP/Switch content.

    If you want to get real ambitious, you release a "Save transfer tool" for Switch/Wii U that let's players transfer any existing save files.

    $20? Come on. I'd love if it would happen, but Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is full price AND selling like hotcakes. I know not every game is Mario Kart and wouldn't sell banana bonkers, but for those games they'd probably rather just not port it over altogether.

    OK, $20-$30 depending on the title. Remember, this is the fantasy world where I'm running Nintendo. :P

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    I hope there's a VC announcement for E3. I haven't played NES or SNES titles since, well, those consoles existed, and there's a whole glut of titles I've missed between then and now.

    My wishlist is really just:

    Hyperzone
    ActRaiser
    SNES Sim City
    Super Mario World
    Final Fantasy IV, V, and VI with the original sprites and music
    Megaman X
    Secret of Mana

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Weren't the "new play control" Gamecube re-releases for Wii relatively cheap? It's not impossible, especially for games that don't need changing (Mario Kart 8 got a lot of changes under the hood on top of the new battle modes).

    While I tend to roll my eyes at the vast amount of reissues the AAA biz has clung to as a lifeline, for Nintendo it makes sense given how poorly the Wii U performed.

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  • MolybdenumMolybdenum Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    If I was running Nintendo, I'd port every big Wii U title to the Switch at a heavily reduced price ($20). It fleshes out the library at a low cost to you and the consumer while giving older games that a lot of people missed a chance to shine. Roll them out monthly to fill in the downtime between original IP/Switch content.

    Off the top of my head:
    • Bayonetta 1/2 (if possible)
    • Captain Toad
    • DKC: TF
    • Kirby and the Rainbow Curse (portable only)
    • Zelda: TPHD
    • Zelda: WWHD
    • NES Remix Pack (contains both games)
    • New Super Mario Bros w/Luigi content
    • Paper Mario: Color Splash
    • Pushmo
    • Starfox Zero (with reworked controls)
    • Super Mario Maker (a must)
    • Tokyo Mirage Sessions
    • Wonderful 101
    • Yoshi: Wolly World

    If you want to get real ambitious, you release a "Save transfer tool" for Switch/Wii U that let's players transfer any existing save files.

    Nah. I'd say probably most of them not until next year or later so you aren't competing with your own titles. Save Bayo for a re-release when Bayo3 happens. Captain Toad, DKC, SF0, Mirage Sessions, and TPHD at least are all still on shelves for more than $20. Wooly World just got a 3DS release. The best candidates right now are probably Wonderful 101 and Rayman Legends, and if there isn't a new Pikmin in the pipe, Pikmin 3.

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Weren't the "new play control" Gamecube re-releases for Wii relatively cheap? It's not impossible, especially for games that don't need changing (Mario Kart 8 got a lot of changes under the hood on top of the new battle modes).

    While I tend to roll my eyes at the vast amount of reissues the AAA biz has clung to as a lifeline, for Nintendo it makes sense given how poorly the Wii U performed.

    Well the Wii could play the gamecube games by default too. They essentially have two mobile consoles now. So they will release some on 3DS like Wooly World and some on the Switch like MH XX.

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  • TDawgTDawg Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Weren't the "new play control" Gamecube re-releases for Wii relatively cheap? It's not impossible, especially for games that don't need changing (Mario Kart 8 got a lot of changes under the hood on top of the new battle modes).

    While I tend to roll my eyes at the vast amount of reissues the AAA biz has clung to as a lifeline, for Nintendo it makes sense given how poorly the Wii U performed.

    The difference here is that, in terms of hardware and engine and all that good stuff, the Wii was essentially a souped up Gamecube. It was probably hilariously easy to get those Gamecube games running on the Wii. Whereas, the Switch is supposedly a pretty different beast than the WiiU. It might not be a straight up "port" job but it would require a lot more tinkering. For super niche titles like Wonderful 101, Bayonetta, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions, it's probably more of a hassle than its worth.

    The other difference is that, as I said, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is $60 and selling very well. Why put in the effort and undercut the value?

    My point is, a lot of those games aren't relevant enough to demand ports, and the ports we do get are unlikely to have a heavily discounted price, if they're discounted at all.

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    Ok so controller acquired:

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    What do to make it work on Switch?

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  • IceBurnerIceBurner It's cold and there are penguins.Registered User regular
    How are the L2/R2 on that?

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  • Dr. Phibbs McAtheyDr. Phibbs McAthey Registered User regular
    Pray to the gods.

    But seriously, it's not that hard but isn't perfect. I got it working on my switch with little trouble yesterday, but when I took it to a friend's later, I couldn't get it to sync for the life of me. The manual is here. Pretty straightforward, press power+Y for a second, lights will blink four times, then press the sync button for 2 seconds while your switch is on the change grip/order screen.
    I believe you can also just connect it via its included USB cable? I haven't tried that yet.

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    Pray to the gods.

    But seriously, it's not that hard but isn't perfect. I got it working on my switch with little trouble yesterday, but when I took it to a friend's later, I couldn't get it to sync for the life of me. The manual is here. Pretty straightforward, press power+Y for a second, lights will blink four times, then press the sync button for 2 seconds while your switch is on the change grip/order screen.
    I believe you can also just connect it via its included USB cable? I haven't tried that yet.

    Yeah I've just upgraded the firmware. Seems to be pretty straightforward. Wish me luck!
    IceBurner wrote: »
    How are the L2/R2 on that?

    I'll let you know here shortly.

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Pray to the gods.

    But seriously, it's not that hard but isn't perfect. I got it working on my switch with little trouble yesterday, but when I took it to a friend's later, I couldn't get it to sync for the life of me. The manual is here. Pretty straightforward, press power+Y for a second, lights will blink four times, then press the sync button for 2 seconds while your switch is on the change grip/order screen.
    I believe you can also just connect it via its included USB cable? I haven't tried that yet.

    Yeah I've just upgraded the firmware. Seems to be pretty straightforward. Wish me luck!
    IceBurner wrote: »
    How are the L2/R2 on that?

    I'll let you know here shortly.

    BAH GAWD, IT WORKS!

    Edit: It's friggin perfect you guys. Holy crap this thing is so good. It's small enough to be considered portable but large enough to where it wont give you hand cramps ala the single joycon (and I have large hands). The buttons are all very clicky and responsive.. including L1R1 and L2 R2. I thought having those two side by side would feel weird but nope, I guess my time with the N3DS prepared me well for that. I feel like I've just unlocked a secret level for the Switch that no one knows about yet.

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    By the way the combo of NES30 Pro and the Hybrid Cover is sooooooo good. It basically turns the Switch into a miniaturized entertainment center with minimal fuss. I highly recommend getting the Hybrid Cover if you're picking this controller up, or even if you're not. It provides excellent protection and doubles as a damn good stand. I'm about to go try out some Street Fighter with the d-pad. I'll have more in-depth thoughts later.


    PS man this thing is sexy.. just look at that pic!


    Edit: one thing it can't do, however, is wake the console up out of sleep mode. You have to re-pair when that happens. Luckily the process is quick and painless. (nevermind.. it does stay paired when the Switch goes to sleep.. the controller went to sleep and I didn't turn it on until after I booted up the switch which caused the de-pairing.. I think). I also wish it had a little bit more weight to it but it's really not too bad to be honest. If only it could somehow incorporate HD rumble.. now that would be the dream.

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  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    Nightslyr wrote: »
    I hope there's a VC announcement for E3. I haven't played NES or SNES titles since, well, those consoles existed, and there's a whole glut of titles I've missed between then and now.

    My wishlist is really just:

    Hyperzone
    ActRaiser
    SNES Sim City
    Super Mario World
    Final Fantasy IV, V, and VI with the original sprites and music
    Megaman X
    Secret of Mana

    I'd much rather get that Mana triple pack that Square-Enix are working on localized. Seiken Densetsu 3 is an absolute gem.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    the second half of bravely default is better than the first half and it outsold lightning returns in their first month(they both came out in feb)

    no idea how bravely second sold though

  • WraithvergeWraithverge Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Jars wrote: »
    the second half of bravely default is better than the first half and it outsold lightning returns in their first month(they both came out in feb)

    no idea how bravely second sold though
    I mean... I don't know how anyone could say this with a straight face. I loved the first half and noped the fuck out after about 3-4 hours into the other half. That's the first time I've EVER heard that. Some people said it was tolerable but BETTER?

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    the second half of bravely default is better than the first half and it outsold lightning returns in their first month(they both came out in feb)

    no idea how bravely second sold though

    700,000 copies compared to a million for the first.

    I have no idea what the scale of the Bravely series is, but if it's on par with a second-tier Japanese game that's not too shabby. But if it tried to get within spitting distance of a AAA game that's probably at least a disappointment.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »

    Judging by the name, I imagine this is by the Steins;Gate guys. Any word on how good it is?

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    the second half of bravely default is better than the first half and it outsold lightning returns in their first month(they both came out in feb)

    no idea how bravely second sold though

    I'm actually interested in that position (not the sales thing, that's a fact). I personally thought the story was fine in the second half up until chapter 7. The reveal in Chapter 6, and the choice you can make there, put a really nice cap on the story and work really well. But I think that chapters 7 and 8 drag things out too long and require the cast to act out of character.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    the side quests in chapter 7 are the best story content in the entire game. 8 doesn't have story content but it has challenge fights that bravely second was sorely missing

    in my experience there are a couple VERY LOUD voices about the second half and everyone else loved it

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Mechanically, the fights in the last two chapters are very nice, and I love that. Story-wise, I've soured more on that part of the game over time, aside from the optional content. It's that damn plot hole.

    Enlong on
  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    see I don't really care about the overarching plot that much, I want smaller side character stories which 7 had in spades. that's why I like FE: conquest so much even though the story is turbogarbage. great gameplay, great characters. I didn't think it was that big of a plot hole either?
    sure you can kill airy, but the whole point of letting her get her way is that it will lead you to oroborus so you can put an end to things forever. otherwise another airy will appear

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Jars wrote: »
    see I don't really care about the overarching plot that much, I want smaller side character stories which 7 had in spades. that's why I like FE: conquest so much even though the story is turbogarbage. great gameplay, great characters. I didn't think it was that big of a plot hole either?
    sure you can kill airy, but the whole point of letting her get her way is that it will lead you to oroborus so you can put an end to things forever. otherwise another airy will appear
    the issue is that the party shouldn't know that. In a story path where they don't break the crystal, nobody informs them of an evil beyond Airy, and yet they're talking between chapters 6 and 7 as if they know and have a plan. Nothing like what happens in BS's chapter 5 has happened to let them know what happened down that alternate route.

    But then, as soon as chapter 8 ends, they're all excited about closing the Chasm, and gobsmacked when Airy reveals her treachery. In order to get past chapter 6, they need to know more than they could, but as soon as chapter 8 ends, they've forgotten plot points that are now so obvious that the title sceeen knows. It reads like the writers wanted their big reveal without thinking about how they were going to get there. When I played through to the true ending, I had been hoping that they had thought that angle out a bit better.

    Which is something I like about BS. That one thinks about an angle for alternate-universe knowledge, and makes it work to great effect in chapter 5. If that plot point had happened in BD, I think it would've worked better.

    I can understand the preference for better fights over a better-wrought story, though. BS had little beyond the remixed fights in chapter 5, and the one new boss in the Dimensional Cauldron. Hopefully, the eventual third game will improve both aspects.

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    Oh man.. this thing works so great with Street Fighter. I'm hitting combos with impunity that were once thought impossible.

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Not a huge surprise but Platinum Games is developing something for Switch

    https://mynintendonews.com/2017/05/30/platinum-games-are-developing-something-interesting-for-nintendo-switch/

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    We knew that months ago, but now we know that it's 'interesting', whatever that means.

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Is Platinum going to do something that feels very 'them'? Or is it going to be a hard left into something else?

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  • Road BlockRoad Block Registered User regular
    If it's a Switch exclusive there is a good chance it's Bayonetta 3. I'm pretty sure Nintendo would have the rights locked down.

  • McFodderMcFodder Registered User regular
    I got given the Bayo 1 & 2 pack for the Wii U, got maybe half an hour into the first one before putting it aside and never got back to it.

    I hear 2 is better, but is 1 worth getting through first?

    Ahahahaha who am I kidding, I'm going to go home and play more Zelda.

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  • KriegaffeKriegaffe Registered User regular
    McFodder wrote: »
    I got given the Bayo 1 & 2 pack for the Wii U, got maybe half an hour into the first one before putting it aside and never got back to it.

    I hear 2 is better, but is 1 worth getting through first?

    Ahahahaha who am I kidding, I'm going to go home and play more Zelda.

    2 is better than 1... but they aren't that different. It's a 3D brawler where dodging is very important and the action scenes are all turned up to 11.

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    While I'd love to see me some more Bayo... I'd kinda like to see them do something new and crazy as well?

    Or if they were allowed to dip into the Nintendo IP vault and do something fun with games that havn't been touched in a while.

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  • TDawgTDawg Registered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »
    While I'd love to see me some more Bayo... I'd kinda like to see them do something new and crazy as well?

    Or if they were allowed to dip into the Nintendo IP vault and do something fun with games that havn't been touched in a while.

    We know Nintendo isn't opposed to this idea because Wonderful 101 was originally supposed to be chock full of Nintendo characters instead of Super Heroes, right?

    Although I'm not married to the idea of them using Nintendo IP's, it is fun to think about. Despite StarFox Zero, I'd love to see a Star Fox game 100% made by Platinum through and through. Alternatively, perhaps something like a Metroid game. I'm thinking of how cool the action looked in the Metroid: Other M reveal, before the reality of it became apparent.

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    If I was running Nintendo, I'd port every big Wii U title to the Switch at a heavily reduced price ($20). It fleshes out the library at a low cost to you and the consumer while giving older games that a lot of people missed a chance to shine. Roll them out monthly to fill in the downtime between original IP/Switch content.

    Off the top of my head:
    • Bayonetta 1/2 (if possible)
    • Captain Toad
    • DKC: TF
    • Kirby and the Rainbow Curse (portable only)
    • Zelda: TPHD
    • Zelda: WWHD
    • NES Remix Pack (contains both games)
    • New Super Mario Bros w/Luigi content
    • Paper Mario: Color Splash
    • Pushmo
    • Starfox Zero (with reworked controls)
    • Super Mario Maker (a must)
    • Tokyo Mirage Sessions
    • Wonderful 101
    • Yoshi: Wolly World

    If you want to get real ambitious, you release a "Save transfer tool" for Switch/Wii U that let's players transfer any existing save files.

    Nah. I'd say probably most of them not until next year or later so you aren't competing with your own titles. Save Bayo for a re-release when Bayo3 happens. Captain Toad, DKC, SF0, Mirage Sessions, and TPHD at least are all still on shelves for more than $20. Wooly World just got a 3DS release. The best candidates right now are probably Wonderful 101 and Rayman Legends, and if there isn't a new Pikmin in the pipe, Pikmin 3.

    Super Mario 3D World needs to be in there somewhere.

    Xenoblade Chronicles X could be nice, too.

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  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    If I was running Nintendo, I'd port every big Wii U title to the Switch at a heavily reduced price ($20). It fleshes out the library at a low cost to you and the consumer while giving older games that a lot of people missed a chance to shine. Roll them out monthly to fill in the downtime between original IP/Switch content.

    Off the top of my head:
    • Bayonetta 1/2 (if possible)
    • Captain Toad
    • DKC: TF
    • Kirby and the Rainbow Curse (portable only)
    • Zelda: TPHD
    • Zelda: WWHD
    • NES Remix Pack (contains both games)
    • New Super Mario Bros w/Luigi content
    • Paper Mario: Color Splash
    • Pushmo
    • Starfox Zero (with reworked controls)
    • Super Mario Maker (a must)
    • Tokyo Mirage Sessions
    • Wonderful 101
    • Yoshi: Wolly World

    If you want to get real ambitious, you release a "Save transfer tool" for Switch/Wii U that let's players transfer any existing save files.

    Hyrule Warriors Complete (as in, all the DLC and such included already) would get me to buy a Switch tomorrow.

    Bayonetta and TMS would just be super nice bonuses on top of that, though, since those two (three, really) and HW were the main things I wanted to get a Wii U for.

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  • KriegaffeKriegaffe Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Random Has Been Heroes update, since there's no official thread:

    I finally paid attention to how the Princesses work.
    - Once their orb is full, any souls collected are wasted.
    - Using a princess ability to cast a spell adds +20 to the orb capacity
    - So, if the princess abilities are not used, only 40 souls will be collected for the run total

    In conclusion, it's probably best to use their ability when possible. So what to use their ability on....
    Well...
    - My current warrior who has the 'Dark' battleshout that gives +100% dmg to next combo
    - He has the +1 hit for back stab and +1 hit for a spell cast.
    - So, do the backstab (2x) ...
    - cast battleshout (3x) ...
    - cast doublestrike (6x) ...
    - cast doublestrike with princess 1 (12x) ...
    - cast doublestrike with princess 2 (24x) ...

    24 hits at double damage with a warrior is basically instadeath to any enemy in the game. Crazy!

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    Slowly carved out of a mountain like the ones in the back, including the level farm terrain - sand, surface lava, water within a 10 second walk, and wild spawning animals everywhere.
    Got my portal to the nether on the west wing of the home...

    Still early times but I am carving out quite a home for myself in this place while riding the train to and from work.

    The switch might end up becoming my favorite console ever just because of how easy it makes playing full-fat versions of games for my busy life.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    How does your farm get water? I thought it had to be 1 block from water, right? Do you have it running below it?

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited May 2017
    urahonky wrote: »
    How does your farm get water? I thought it had to be 1 block from water, right? Do you have it running below it?

    He might have it under his farm, but farmland is irrigated from up to 4 tiles away:
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    Sugarcane has to be right next to water, though (and untilled land).

    EDIT: Actually it looks like he has 1 unit of water in the middle of each little plot.

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    We should have a designated Minecraft night. Someone have the world and we can hop in!

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  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    Is Platinum going to do something that feels very 'them'? Or is it going to be a hard left into something else?

    Infinite Space 2.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    McFodder wrote: »
    I got given the Bayo 1 & 2 pack for the Wii U, got maybe half an hour into the first one before putting it aside and never got back to it.

    I hear 2 is better, but is 1 worth getting through first?

    Ahahahaha who am I kidding, I'm going to go home and play more Zelda.

    1 is way way better than 2.

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