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[Megaten/Persona Discussion] Now with 500% less heart!

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    I've been thinking of Hardtype. Maybe I'll try that if it's adapted to Raidou-mode.
    It's hard to go back to the Western Front of old skill-inheritance. I'd be fine with a mod that just scraps the big lotto funtimes.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    It's just part of the Nocturne experience for me. How else would I listen to this for hours on end?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_zL_q0ttTA

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Wow, he put in the 25th Anniversary logo. Nice touch.

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    (I can't get it running on my PS2. If anyone has any hints, all ears...)

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    The only real gameplay-difference in Raidou-version is that Raidou is slightly buffed compared to Dante, to not be useless in True Demon.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    The only real gameplay-difference in Raidou-version is that Raidou is slightly buffed compared to Dante, to not be useless in True Demon.

    I hear they made Lucifer a lot tougher too.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Brace yourselves for this one.



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    Emphasis:
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    We're seeing this trend slowly infect SMT, too.

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    God dammit.

    I don't see why they couldn't have kept her looking scary and/or deranged, it would fit with her story.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    I see people commenting that it should be this way explicitly for the sake of having a "diverse" cast.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    If you click through there is an early design of Ohya that is objectively superior to the one they went with

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    If you click through there is an early design of Ohya that is objectively superior to the one they went with

    Ponytail and whisky? I agree wholeheartedly.

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    If you click through there is an early design of Ohya that is objectively superior to the one they went with

    Ponytail and whisky? I agree wholeheartedly.

    And a cooling patch because she's probably hungover all the time.

    Nice.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Donnicton wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    If you click through there is an early design of Ohya that is objectively superior to the one they went with

    Ponytail and whisky? I agree wholeheartedly.

    And a cooling patch because she's probably hungover all the time.

    Nice.

    Made me think of Game Center CX.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    "OK, so what's this Demeter's deal?"

    "She's contrasted with a younger goddess as the parent-half of a parent-child pair, she acts as a nanny for some other important children, and she teaches people how farming works as an old mentor-figure. The second part of the name means mother."

    *draws loli*

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited November 2017
    After wasting four+ hours on the Saturn version of Devil Summoner(and still not killing Shiki Ouji), I threw in the proverbial towel and just read the LP.
    (Or not, lol, I killed him on the way out. Point still stands though.)

    lparchive.org/Shin-Megami-Tensei-Devil-Summoner/

    Looks like it's a damn good thing I did. Frankly, the language barrier seems too vicious to survive this game without understanding negotiation, fusion, equipment, or items. Not to mention the dungeons from hell. That said, the story does live up to its reputation, and it's insane how many new demons debuted for this game. No wonder it was so popular.

    I'll sit on my Saturn version for the time being, and see if I can't light a fire to get that fan translation finished.

    That LP is a great read. It even covers the damn TV series.

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    edited November 2017
    That reminds me that one day I should get around to finishing Soul Hackers. One day, when I feel like putting up with this dungeon of Mudo spam that ends the game immediately if one of the casts lands on your character. Because that's good gameplay.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Javelin Rain, Divine Shot and Spiral Viper are pretty cool.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    Speaking of Soul Hackers...

    I had my Saturn fired up, and I love Soul Hackers, so I decided to do this for kicks.

    All screenshots are mine, original hardware.

    This is a 1996 Sega Saturn hooked up to an Insignia HDTV through composite if it matters.

    So originally I figured that since the Saturn version has larger portraits, the backgrounds would have more detail on the original version.

    Boy was I wrong.
    Opening
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    Introduction:
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    Hitomi & Hardcore Hackin:
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    This is where I realized something.

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    The 3DS version uses larger resolution backgrounds, so you actually see MORE of the picture in the re-release.

    Presumably they had access to the original assets, meaning this is way more of a definitive version than I thought.

    Name Entry:
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    Paradigm Open Beta/Meeting the Parents:
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    Did you notice a change there?...

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    They changed the protagonist's phone. Hardcore hacker upgrade!

    Meeting the family:
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    Last but not least, Spooky Mail & the world map comparison:
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    It's especially clear with the world map, this is the definitive version of Soul Hackers. (Garbage 3DS audio quality aside)

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Handhelds tend to traditionally have pretty crappy internal speakers, but they invariably sound find with a headset. At least as far as I'm concerned with game sound anyway.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Apparently Scathach and Skadi can't have any phys-skills in Hardtype. Hm.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    Apparently Scathach and Skadi can't have any phys-skills in Hardtype. Hm.

    Interesting, but they're not demons I think of when it comes to phys skills anyway.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Skadi used to be one of the heaviest hitters because of Earthquake.

    Seems like it's pretty trivial to hexedit the crossover-demons into savefiles from Devil Survivor 2 Break Record, if you can extract the file in the first place.

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    Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    SMT V officially announced for Western release.

    https://youtu.be/YLSrGiiy95U

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    They need to bring back the Japanese symbols.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I finally got into p5 and I just can't accept that's Igor's voice

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    Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    I finally got into p5 and I just can't accept that's Igor's voice

    It's really jarring. Makes it sound like he picked up a habit of chainsmoking essence of great old ones between games.

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    I found that tilting it doesn't work very well, and once I started jerking it, I got much better results.

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    durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    I like the P5 Igor voice, it's very like midnight-movie.

    Spoiler for hour 158 of the game:
    Of course, the return of the real Igor was also very fun!

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    @durandal4532 maybe make it clearer that the spoiler in your posts is a super late-game spoiler?

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    pyromaniac221pyromaniac221 this just might be an interestin YTRegistered User regular
    Yeah do not click that spoiler unless you are basically finished with the game

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    it is too late, but in the usual scheme of SMT spoilers, that is basically meaningless to me.

    edit: been checking the network stats since the game opened up my schedule toward the 1st palace deadline and it's been telling me that people got to the calling card on the second possible day. what the hell. I'm bad at this

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    DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    Another late game P5 question if that's okay.

    So I just beat the
    Fake Igor/Holy Grail/god or whatever
    and got to the save point after that little cutscene. I was just curious about how long the remaining epilogue is before the game is totally done. I wanna watch it when I get off work tonight, but not if it means staying up 'til 4am or so.

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    KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    Dirty wrote: »
    Another late game P5 question if that's okay.

    So I just beat the
    Fake Igor/Holy Grail/god or whatever
    and got to the save point after that little cutscene. I was just curious about how long the remaining epilogue is before the game is totally done. I wanna watch it when I get off work tonight, but not if it means staying up 'til 4am or so.

    endgame
    You still have a ways (some hours) to go. For reference, I would not say you are at the epilogue yet.

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    TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    Dirty wrote: »
    Another late game P5 question if that's okay.

    So I just beat the
    Fake Igor/Holy Grail/god or whatever
    and got to the save point after that little cutscene. I was just curious about how long the remaining epilogue is before the game is totally done. I wanna watch it when I get off work tonight, but not if it means staying up 'til 4am or so.

    endgame
    You still have a ways (some hours) to go. For reference, I would not say you are at the epilogue yet.

    Do you mean
    jaldaboath
    if so, an hour maybe. If not, did you just max
    igor's socia link?
    then one dungeon.

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    DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    I forgot its name but to clarify, I just
    shot God in the face.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Dirty wrote: »
    I forgot its name but to clarify, I just
    shot God in the face.
    There's still a few hours of stuff I would call denouement and ending.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Does Raidou take damage when you jump off the building? It was neat that Dante doesn't.
    As a hooman, he seems to have fewer resists than Dante, too.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    Does Raidou take damage when you jump off the building? It was neat that Dante doesn't.
    As a hooman, he seems to have fewer resists than Dante, too.

    He has better skills, though. I believe he gets Pierce later on.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    Yes, his "Son's Oath" is improved. Also that one, weak gun-skill hits a different number of times.

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    KhildithKhildith Registered User regular
    Okay so I've never played a Persona or SMT game before but a friend of mine convinced me to pick up P5 during the Black Friday sale.

    I've been blown away! It was amazing, I put 120 hours into it in two weeks and I'm heavily considering heading right back into NG+.

    I actually teared up a bit during some of the ending parts. 100% worth the price, wish I had picked it up on release so I could talk about it with people when it was fresh to them!

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Awesome!

    Now go play Persona 4 Golden!

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Awesome!

    Now go play Persona 4 Golden!

    And then lament the lack of a definitive version of P3 (for the record, I'd go with P3P just for being able to give commands in battle).

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