Maybe $1 in *new* Medicaid funding for $1 in wall, that'd be the kind of compromise i can get behind (since the wall is ultimately a boondoggle but does no great harm aside from a handful of ranchers who will end up having to become Mexican citizens or immigrate every time they want to go shopping, and will at least pay some wages to middle and low-class workers at some point), otherwise it's the problem Knight_ just pointed out, you're threatening appropriated money for unappropriated money and it doesn't work that way.
Well, there is a lawsuit regarding whether the subsidy funds were legally appropriated in how they're disbursed. But...letting that break doesn't really help your approval since people blame the Party in power for wielding power.
WASHINGTON — White House officials, desperate to demonstrate progress on President Trump’s promise to repeal the Affordable Care Act, are pushing to resurrect a Republican health care bill before his 100th day in office next week.
Some members of the president’s team have grown consumed by that deadline, worrying that appraisals of the president’s tenure will be brutal and hoping that a last push on health care might bring a measure of salvation.
But the legislation’s future is unclear. For now, the proposal exists only in vague talking points. West Wing advisers to Mr. Trump are decidedly mixed in their views of how aggressively to raise expectations. The aide feeling perhaps the most pressure, according to people close to the discussions, is the chief of staff, Reince Priebus, who was blamed internally for the botched vote count around the first repeal effort and is closest to Mr. Ryan within Mr. Trump’s circle.
This month, Vice President Mike Pence and other Trump administration officials sought a new agreement with the conservative House Freedom Caucus, whose opposition helped fell the first bill. The measure, which gained little traction, earned a nickname on Capitol Hill: Zombie Trumpcare.
The bill has the stink of failure on it that any politician should be able to smell from miles away, and that has to cause a lot of people to flee it or at least be extremely wary of it.
Reince Priebus can't really think this is going to end well for him.
Zombie trumpcare all it wants to do is eat your brains it is however not uncivilized and has no current plans to eat your eyes.
It is going to be pretty amazing if they try to flog some fugly healthcare thing out just in time to torpedo their own budget continuing resolution. Hell at this point the democrats may not even need to lift a finger there is every possibility of them sinking their own budget at this point without any input from the dems.
3. The president’s marketing strategy relies on promising big results -- and he relies on the assumption that public promises will be kept.
During my research, I went back and catalogued Trump’s promises to donate money to charity. I was struck by how many he’d made: in all, Trump’s public pledges after 2001 totalled $8.5 million or more. Usually, Trump didn’t name which charity he planned to help, which made it hard to check whether he’d kept his word. I searched far and wide, and found little evidence he did. I also found at least one case where Trump had made a specific pledge to a specific charity – a $250,000 promise to a charity that helps Israeli soldiers and veterans – and didn’t pay up (Another unnamed person paid Trump’s pledge instead, the charity said.)
But Trump seemed to suffer little reputational damage. The media covered his promise, but -- since Trump was just a reality-TV star, not a presidential candidate -- they didn’t usually check on the follow-through. During the campaign, when The Washington Post pressed Trump to supply details of his giving, he refused.
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Since his election, Trump has repeatedly used this tactic: promising major actions and revelations, and relying on the public belief that a president will keep promises. On a Saturday in late December, he promised to deliver major news about Russian hacking on “Tuesday or Wednesday.” He didn’t. Then, in January, he promised a major report on hacking “in 90 days.” This month, the 90th day passed with no report. He promised a “major investigation” into voter fraud during the 2016 election, but since then media reports have indicated that the investigation is going slowly, or not at all.
But this tactic is far harder to pull off now, because Trump and his promises are under far more scrutiny. This week, a Gallup poll found that only 45 percent of Americans believe Trump “keeps his promises,” a number that was down 17 points just since February.
The basic problem is that whether the ACA is still around or not is too obvious. It is easier to get away with lack of charity giving or something that is normally just a passing part of the news cycle like saying you will have a report that few people will probably care about in the first place in 90 days. He doesn't even have a decent effort that isn't just an incompetent clusterfuck to point to.
Doesn't care about the hundred days. Hundred days is dumb. That's why healthcare, taxes, and wall funding are all being pushed right now for no specific reason.
I can't wait until Trump's 4th press secretary in Summer of 2020 is saying "It's only been 3 years 6 months, Obama got 8 years to get his healthcare bill passed!"
Doesn't care about the hundred days. Hundred days is dumb. That's why healthcare, taxes, and wall funding are all being pushed right now for no specific reason.
Also, the first 100 days is a dumb standard anyway. Or at least that's what Trump was trying to say this morning.
It warms my heart to think that the first 100 days is often the period where a president is most popular...because of how terribly unpopular Trump is already.
3. The president’s marketing strategy relies on promising big results -- and he relies on the assumption that public promises will be kept.
During my research, I went back and catalogued Trump’s promises to donate money to charity. I was struck by how many he’d made: in all, Trump’s public pledges after 2001 totalled $8.5 million or more. Usually, Trump didn’t name which charity he planned to help, which made it hard to check whether he’d kept his word. I searched far and wide, and found little evidence he did. I also found at least one case where Trump had made a specific pledge to a specific charity – a $250,000 promise to a charity that helps Israeli soldiers and veterans – and didn’t pay up (Another unnamed person paid Trump’s pledge instead, the charity said.)
But Trump seemed to suffer little reputational damage. The media covered his promise, but -- since Trump was just a reality-TV star, not a presidential candidate -- they didn’t usually check on the follow-through. During the campaign, when The Washington Post pressed Trump to supply details of his giving, he refused.
[...]
Since his election, Trump has repeatedly used this tactic: promising major actions and revelations, and relying on the public belief that a president will keep promises. On a Saturday in late December, he promised to deliver major news about Russian hacking on “Tuesday or Wednesday.” He didn’t. Then, in January, he promised a major report on hacking “in 90 days.” This month, the 90th day passed with no report. He promised a “major investigation” into voter fraud during the 2016 election, but since then media reports have indicated that the investigation is going slowly, or not at all.
But this tactic is far harder to pull off now, because Trump and his promises are under far more scrutiny. This week, a Gallup poll found that only 45 percent of Americans believe Trump “keeps his promises,” a number that was down 17 points just since February.
The basic problem is that whether the ACA is still around or not is too obvious. It is easier to get away with lack of charity giving or something that is normally just a passing part of the news cycle like saying you will have a report that few people will probably care about in the first place in 90 days. He doesn't even have a decent effort that isn't just an incompetent clusterfuck to point to.
Don't forget the "I'll crush ISIS in thirty days of being in office" pledge.
Also locking Clinton up
The only accomplishments he'll have are pissing off America/their allies, and flushing his precious brand down his golden toilet.
Objectively, his hundred-days achievements are all utilizations of that law that allows for an overturn of last-minute executive rule changes by a previous president. He rolled back a bunch of rules. That and Gorsuch are the only two things he achieved so far. Everything else has either been a failure or never materialized.
Objectively, his hundred-days achievements are all utilizations of that law that allows for an overturn of last-minute executive rule changes by a previous president. He rolled back a bunch of rules. That and Gorsuch are the only two things he achieved so far. Everything else has either been a failure or never materialized.
Objectively, his hundred-days achievements are all utilizations of that law that allows for an overturn of last-minute executive rule changes by a previous president. He rolled back a bunch of rules. That and Gorsuch are the only two things he achieved so far. Everything else has either been a failure or never materialized.
Gorsuch is solely McConnell's achievement.
We'll see whether or not that ends up being a hollow one, given what that bullshit set in motion.
As for the roll back of last minute regulations. Looks like he might get blow back on several. The environmental ones appear to be things that aren't widely supported.
It's kind of amazing that he is so hell bent on trying to get this turd through Congress. I guess Trump decided, that if he couldn't be the greatest POTUS ever, he'd fuck off so badly that he gets into position as the worst POTUS ever and to such an extend that no future POTUS will be able to top it.
Anyways, anyone see any details on when these jokers plan on having a written document prepared. If I'm not mistaken, they can't exactly schedule a vote on this pile of shit until there is a paper copy. Wondering if we're going to literally get a case of them trying to argue that like ACA, no one needs to read the document. Would be grand if AHCA managed to highlight how fucking stupid that talking point was, given how long the democrats spend crafting the ACA.
Given that the CR has to get passed by Thursday/Friday, it would also be fun to just procedurally eat time on the AHCA-2 simply because it has a hard stop when they need to devote time on the calendar to not shutting the Government down.
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Don't forget the "I'll crush ISIS in thirty days of being in office" pledge.
Also locking Clinton up
The only accomplishments he'll have are pissing off America/their allies, and flushing his precious brand down his golden toilet.
There's still plenty of time for the bolded. Trump's attention span may be too short for him to do anything other than flail on Twitter about the election but he has slightly less incompetent underlings who might think in some moment of desperation that arresting Hillary Clinton would be a great way to distract the media for a moment or something. Granted, I had expected this to already be taking place but I seriously underestimated just how utterly, mindbogglingly lazy Trump is.
Swinging this back on topic, would the path of short-term least effort personally for Trump be to have the government shut down over Trumpcare II: Electric Bugaloo or just not give a shit about actual results and spew meaningless whiny noises out of his mouth afterward?
Swinging this back on topic, would the path of short-term least effort personally for Trump be to have the government shut down over Trumpcare II: Electric Bugaloo or just not give a shit about actual results and spew meaningless whiny noises out of his mouth afterward?
I can see him being willing to put effort into negotiations that end up sabotaging it. This is his legacy, after all.
Don't forget the "I'll crush ISIS in thirty days of being in office" pledge.
Also locking Clinton up
The only accomplishments he'll have are pissing off America/their allies, and flushing his precious brand down his golden toilet.
There's still plenty of time for the bolded. Trump's attention span may be too short for him to do anything other than flail on Twitter about the election but he has slightly less incompetent underlings who might think in some moment of desperation that arresting Hillary Clinton would be a great way to distract the media for a moment or something. Granted, I had expected this to already be taking place but I seriously underestimated just how utterly, mindbogglingly lazy Trump is.
Swinging this back on topic, would the path of short-term least effort personally for Trump be to have the government shut down over Trumpcare II: Electric Bugaloo or just not give a shit about actual results and spew meaningless whiny noises out of his mouth afterward?
Sessions is the Attorney General. I would not be surprised if plans are being drawn up for Hillary's arrest and trial. Just in case.
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I'm seeing increased traffic through various websites that Trump and Ryan might try to use the debt ceiling as a weapon against a possible round #2 against the ACA. It'll be an interesting week. Especially if health care shuts the government down while the GOP owns all three branches of the government.
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Yet somehow it will be the Democrat's fault for shooting the hostage.
I have a morbid curiosity about how next week will go.
When asked about the situation with Obamacare Repeal and tax reform Trump told the Associated Press this (emphasis added) …
I have great relationships with Congress. I think we’re doing very well and I think we have a great foundation for future things. We’re going to be applying — I shouldn’t tell you this, but we’re going to be announcing, probably on Wednesday, tax reform. … We’ve worked on it long and hard. And you gotta understand, I’ve only been here now 93 days, 92 days. President Obama took 17 months to do “Obamacare.” I’ve been here 92 days, but I’ve only been working on the health care, you know, I had to get like a little bit of grounding, right? Health care started after 30 day(s), so I’ve been working on health care for 60 days. … we’re very close. And it’s a great plan … we have to get it approved.
We close on the condo May 1st, so they better not default on the debt ceiling on April 30. Or do something that fucks up wire transfers with a shutdown.
Everything I've read has boiled down to "Obamacare is imperfect but doing fine. Some tweaks could fix fringe cases and shore up any issues, but it's nowhere near collapsing."
Someone probably told him this, so he's trying to make perception into reality. Maybe setting the groundwork for his supporters when his admin does try to tear open a crack intentionally, but I don't think that'll carry them as far as they might think.
And yes, I am accounting for the average US voter here.
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
It's also wrong because while people first think of the Insurance Exchanges when they think of Obamacare, that isn't even close to the whole of the bill. It's probably not even like a third overall.
Even if the exchanges collapse most of Obamacare will just keep on trucking.
The ACA could be absolutely incredible and the problems that people complain about could be fixed - but it would require Republicans to vote on enacting those changes, and they don't care about what's best for people, just following the lines the party has been pushing for almost a decade now.
Completely agreed. They *could* fix it, but they won't. They could also do substantial harm to it, but with the associated risk of 'blowing up the insurance industry', depending on the actions chosen.
An industry that I'm under the impression is rather powerful, and whom I assume would have some very stern things to say about an attempt (intentional or not) to kill it.
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Well, there is a lawsuit regarding whether the subsidy funds were legally appropriated in how they're disbursed. But...letting that break doesn't really help your approval since people blame the Party in power for wielding power.
If obamacare blows up it's all on the gop. They literally control all branches of gov right now
Yeah, but not the shadow government! Obama's still in charge of that, we all know thats where the real power is.
Zombie trumpcare all it wants to do is eat your brains it is however not uncivilized and has no current plans to eat your eyes.
It is going to be pretty amazing if they try to flog some fugly healthcare thing out just in time to torpedo their own budget continuing resolution. Hell at this point the democrats may not even need to lift a finger there is every possibility of them sinking their own budget at this point without any input from the dems.
bet your presidency on it
swear that you'll exile yourself to the moon if you fail
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/04/21/daily-202-what-trump-s-giving-to-charity-or-lack-thereof-foreshadowed-about-his-presidency/58f9b8abe9b69b3a72331eaf/ The basic problem is that whether the ACA is still around or not is too obvious. It is easier to get away with lack of charity giving or something that is normally just a passing part of the news cycle like saying you will have a report that few people will probably care about in the first place in 90 days. He doesn't even have a decent effort that isn't just an incompetent clusterfuck to point to.
So that's never happening, then.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Also, the first 100 days is a dumb standard anyway. Or at least that's what Trump was trying to say this morning.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
"Let me tell you, at length, how much I don't care" is something I've seen so many times.
Don't forget the "I'll crush ISIS in thirty days of being in office" pledge.
Also locking Clinton up
The only accomplishments he'll have are pissing off America/their allies, and flushing his precious brand down his golden toilet.
Gorsuch is solely McConnell's achievement.
We'll see whether or not that ends up being a hollow one, given what that bullshit set in motion.
As for the roll back of last minute regulations. Looks like he might get blow back on several. The environmental ones appear to be things that aren't widely supported.
It's kind of amazing that he is so hell bent on trying to get this turd through Congress. I guess Trump decided, that if he couldn't be the greatest POTUS ever, he'd fuck off so badly that he gets into position as the worst POTUS ever and to such an extend that no future POTUS will be able to top it.
Anyways, anyone see any details on when these jokers plan on having a written document prepared. If I'm not mistaken, they can't exactly schedule a vote on this pile of shit until there is a paper copy. Wondering if we're going to literally get a case of them trying to argue that like ACA, no one needs to read the document. Would be grand if AHCA managed to highlight how fucking stupid that talking point was, given how long the democrats spend crafting the ACA.
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Nice chart to figure out how honest a news source is.
There's still plenty of time for the bolded. Trump's attention span may be too short for him to do anything other than flail on Twitter about the election but he has slightly less incompetent underlings who might think in some moment of desperation that arresting Hillary Clinton would be a great way to distract the media for a moment or something. Granted, I had expected this to already be taking place but I seriously underestimated just how utterly, mindbogglingly lazy Trump is.
Swinging this back on topic, would the path of short-term least effort personally for Trump be to have the government shut down over Trumpcare II: Electric Bugaloo or just not give a shit about actual results and spew meaningless whiny noises out of his mouth afterward?
I can see him being willing to put effort into negotiations that end up sabotaging it. This is his legacy, after all.
Sessions is the Attorney General. I would not be surprised if plans are being drawn up for Hillary's arrest and trial. Just in case.
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I have a morbid curiosity about how next week will go.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-im-not-even-at-100-days-you-miss-counted
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
From the last time this happened, it at least seems that people get that the GOP is basically always to blame if the government shuts down.
Trump cares so little about the 100 day standard that he put out a detailed plan about what he would accomplish:
I don't think you can use the "no one could have known how complicated it is" excuse twice for the same failure.
Fake it til everyone un-makes it.
It's been his MO since Jan 20th, why start giving a shit about leading a nation now?
Trump could be lying or he doesn't know what the ACA money being talked about is and thinks it is new, extra cash.
Either way he seems to think people will blame the Democrats for any ACA problems.
Everything I've read has boiled down to "Obamacare is imperfect but doing fine. Some tweaks could fix fringe cases and shore up any issues, but it's nowhere near collapsing."
Someone probably told him this, so he's trying to make perception into reality. Maybe setting the groundwork for his supporters when his admin does try to tear open a crack intentionally, but I don't think that'll carry them as far as they might think.
And yes, I am accounting for the average US voter here.
Even if the exchanges collapse most of Obamacare will just keep on trucking.
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An industry that I'm under the impression is rather powerful, and whom I assume would have some very stern things to say about an attempt (intentional or not) to kill it.