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    ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Something else while I'm at it. A bomb detonated next to Harry's head and he got a little scarred up. The same type of bomb, since we have no reason to believe there is any difference between them, vaporised both the Symbiote and Brock as far as we were led to believe.

    This is from a couple of pages ago, but I felt compelled to respond.

    Even if they were the same type of bomb, Peter threw it inside of Venom when the Symbiote was freaking out. While I suppose logically it should've done a bit more than just scar one side of Harry's face, there's a pretty big difference between something exploding from within you and something detonating next to you.

    And even still, it's a comic book movie, you know?

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Zeromus wrote: »
    Something else while I'm at it. A bomb detonated next to Harry's head and he got a little scarred up. The same type of bomb, since we have no reason to believe there is any difference between them, vaporised both the Symbiote and Brock as far as we were led to believe.

    This is from a couple of pages ago, but I felt compelled to respond.

    Even if they were the same type of bomb, Peter threw it inside of Venom when the Symbiote was freaking out. While I suppose logically it should've done a bit more than just scar one side of Harry's face, there's a pretty big difference between something exploding from within you and something detonating next to you.

    And even still, it's a comic book movie, you know?
    Except the bomb detonated next to Brock and didn't even leave bone behind. I'll grant the bomb could have splattered the venom goo between the sonics of the explosion and the fire but it should have at least left some remains of Brock.

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    HobbesHobbes Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Fixed last post...

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2007
    plus, from the way mj mentioned harry's forehead scar fading quickly, i assumed he had some kind of accelerated healing, and that the scarring could have been much worse before pete saw him again. edit- by which i mean that the bomb could be a lot stronger than even the scarring we see on harry's face later would imply

    also i kept forgetting to say it, so i'm gonna say it now-

    what bugged me the most is that scene in the beginning where harry jumps pete. he swoops down and just snatches him away, but the thing is that pete has a superpower that specifically prevents people from just swooping down on him without warning. he has it in the movies! i know he does, we saw it in the first one! it was a good chase scene, but predicated on pete not having his powers.

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    VirralVirral Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    What the hell kind of psychopath doesn't like Bring It On? Sure the sequels were awful, but the original is a work of genius.

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    ZeromusZeromus Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    You know, that's a good point. Harry's probably all buffed up from the Gobby gas.

    The Spidey Sense thing doesn't make sense, though.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Maybe he was just feeling too good to believe someone could jump his ass while he was swinging along?

    I mean, I'd also imagine the spidey sense would have warned him that he was about to pop MJ upside the head in the bar, but nope it failed.

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2007
    why would it have done that?

    his eyes are the source of his superpower to see what his fists are hitting, not his spider-sense

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Virral wrote: »
    What the hell kind of psychopath doesn't like Bring It On? Sure the sequels were awful, but the original is a work of genius.

    Ah yes, how dare the Nobel committee deny the writer of BRING IT ON a place next to the likes of Einstine and Hawking...

    die in a fire

    Also: we already know the Goblin Formula causes excelerated healing... thank you, Clone Saga.

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2007
    i hereby award you the nobel prize for....chemistry

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    HobbesHobbes Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    So out of ten, how good was this movie? From what I have seen/heard, a 6.... But what I have seen is what I don't like. i.e Venom...

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    VirralVirral Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Sentry wrote: »
    Virral wrote: »
    What the hell kind of psychopath doesn't like Bring It On? Sure the sequels were awful, but the original is a work of genius.

    Ah yes, how dare the Nobel committee deny the writer of BRING IT ON a place next to the likes of Einstine and Hawking...

    die in a fire

    Also: we already know the Goblin Formula causes excelerated healing... thank you, Clone Saga.

    At least I can die happy because I have experienced the subtle fucking brilliance of Bring It On. When you go to hell they are going to make you watch the sequels for all etenity as punishment for your lack of taste.

    Might aswell get started... throw yourself into a wood chipper.

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    DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Hobbes wrote: »
    So out of ten, how good was this movie? From what I have seen/heard, a 6.... But what I have seen is what I don't like. i.e Venom...

    Man, nuts to you, Venom is good even if not given justice. But then the entire movie isn't given justice because Raimi is in charge.

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Zeromus wrote: »
    You know, that's a good point. Harry's probably all buffed up from the Gobby gas.

    The Spidey Sense thing doesn't make sense, though.

    At some points, the various Goblins invented gas bombs that could knock out his spider sense. Probably not a big leap to think Harry used the time between 2 and 3 to work out something along the same lines. More likely just an oversite, but I'm looking for a No Prize.

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    GuekGuek Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    yeah the harry + bomb scene was confusing but they did alude to some kind of accerated healing, as servo mentioned.

    i thought raimi missed a big opportunity to use pete's spidey sense. i mean, at least have tobey pull a weird "wait...wtf..." face before being snatched up by harry. but the main thing that bothered me is that during the fight with venom, they definitely should have displayed the suit being immune to his spider sense. brock said something about it but never really showed it. also, lack of "we are venom!" line dissappointed.

    just want to reiterate though, i loved the movie :-P my fanboy gripes with this one probably equal the contention I had with the first and its horrendous goblin costume.

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    SalmonOfDoubtSalmonOfDoubt Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Man, until he showed up later I thought Peter had just outright killed Harry with the pumpkin bomb.

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    DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Guek wrote: »
    yeah the harry + bomb scene was confusing but they did alude to some kind of accerated healing, as servo mentioned.

    i thought raimi missed a big opportunity to use pete's spidey sense. i mean, at least have tobey pull a weird "wait...wtf..." face before being snatched up by harry. but the main thing that bothered me is that during the fight with venom, they definitely should have displayed the suit being immune to his spider sense. brock said something about it but never really showed it. also, lack of "we are venom!" line dissappointed.

    just want to reiterate though, i loved the movie :-P my fanboy gripes with this one probably equal the contention I had with the first and its horrendous goblin costume.

    Thankyou. I said this to my friends about teh lack of "We are Venom". I mean it was set up too.

    *suit peels back*
    "Eddie?"
    "No, not Eddie ...we are Venom"
    *mask covers his face*

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Guek wrote: »

    i thought raimi missed a big opportunity to use pete's spidey sense. i mean, at least have tobey pull a weird "wait...wtf..." face before being snatched up by harry. but the main thing that bothered me is that during the fight with venom, they definitely should have displayed the suit being immune to his spider sense. brock said something about it but never really showed it. also, lack of "we are venom!" line dissappointed.

    just want to reiterate though, i loved the movie :-P my fanboy gripes with this one probably equal the contention I had with the first and its horrendous goblin costume.

    Both points = win.

    I would of at least liked to see Pete's eyes go wide and attempt to turn around and then just get slammed by Harry, that would of been cool.

    I would of also liked the "twin voice" thing they did with the suit in the cartoon.

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    Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Sentry wrote: »
    And it had that dude from Upright Citizen's Brigade as an abusive cheer instructor.

    Cheerleaders are dancers gone retarded.

    And Eliza Dushku in a bikini carwash.

    That movie was so freaking awful... of course, it helped cement Kirsten Dunst as one of the worst things to ever happen to hollywood... it was hackneyed, it was cliched, it was boring and predictable and stupid. And yet, without sound, it could be a work of cinematic genious.

    I thought it was a parody.

    sexy bikini ladies to follow upon clicking- servo

    Unfortunately, the one I saw with Hayden in it was remarkably earnest.

    Apparently a fourth one is being made, and has been billed as West Side Story with cheer squads instead of gangs.
    My god

    Get that woman a sandwich, stat

    You could fucking play her ribs like a xylophone

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    CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Sentry wrote: »
    Crayon wrote: »
    The three people I went with agreed with me when I yelled "done" halfway through and washed my hands of this movie. Probably the single worst movie I've ever seen at a theater.

    well then, you need to get out of your Unibomber style shack a little bit more and get to the movies.

    My god you people... did you never even SEE Batman and Robin? Or the Dungeons and Dragons movie? Or Bring it On parts 1, 2, or 3?? This movie is nowhere... and I mean ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE as bad as those.



    First of all, I'm 22 to the idiot who said I'm entirely too young. Secondly, I don't pay 8$ to see a movie I *KNOW* will be bad like Batman and Robin, D&D, or Bring It On. If any of you had bothered to read what I stated, you would have noticed I said theater and I certainly don't waist that much money on the movies I know will be shit. You guys really don't seem to understand what I stated. I never called it the worst movie ever, I simply called it the worst movie I spent 8$ on at a theater to see. There is a huge difference assholes.

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    The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    He also makes sure to only see one movie every 20 years, that way he doesn't have to lie when he says it's the worst movie he's ever seen in the theater.

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    CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    He also makes sure to only see one movie every 20 years, that way he doesn't have to lie when he says it's the worst movie he's ever seen in the theater.

    I don't go to the theater a lot. You guys are giving me a lot of shit about my opinion simply because I don't go to the theater a lot and enjoy taking what I said out of context.

    Worst movie in a theater!=worst movie of all time.

    Get the fuck over it and stop being damned stupid.

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    D.T.D.T. Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    While I think saying Spider-Man 3 is the worst movie a person has ever seen in a theater is a little dramatic*, I will say that I haven't come this close to walking out of a movie since Revenge of the Sith. The only reason I didn't simply fall asleep during Spider-Man 3 like I did Revenge of the Sith is because my friends and I were laughing so damned hard.

    *I've sat through We Were Soldiers, all three Star Wars prequels, both Matrix sequels, Bad Boys II, You Me and Dupree, Adam Sandler's Eight Crazy Nights, The Blair Witch Project, and countless other horrible, horrible fucking movies in the theaters.

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    Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2007
    Crayon wrote: »
    He also makes sure to only see one movie every 20 years, that way he doesn't have to lie when he says it's the worst movie he's ever seen in the theater.

    I don't go to the theater a lot. You guys are giving me a lot of shit about my opinion simply because I don't go to the theater a lot and enjoy taking what I said out of context.

    Worst movie in a theater!=worst movie of all time.

    Get the fuck over it and stop being damned stupid.

    That's probably because, honestly, the movie really wasn't that bad. Yeah, it wasn't as good as the previous two, and for some fanboys, that's enough to blow up and declare it the worst movie they've ever spent money on.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2007
    I though tit was shitty.

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    Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2007
    I though tit was shitty.

    And I've seen a hell of a lot worse. And I mean a lot worse.

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I thought it was great.

    Note I didn't say the greatest, or the best, or a triumph of the cinema, the herald to a golden age of movies in which god himself will be reborn.

    Why? Because hyperbole of that kind is fucking retarded, 22 or not.

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    noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I though tit was shitty.

    And I've seen a hell of a lot worse. And I mean a lot worse.

    Ultraviolet anyone?

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    CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Sentry wrote: »
    I thought it was great.

    Note I didn't say the greatest, or the best, or a triumph of the cinema, the herald to a golden age of movies in which god himself will be reborn.

    Why? Because hyperbole of that kind is fucking retarded, 22 or not.

    So my opinion is fucking retarded because I personally thought it was the worst movie I paid to see? It sincerely is the worst movie I have seen in the THEATER which I rarely go to. You don't seem to realize the context of what I'm saying, so I'll just say you're a goddamned moron and leave it at that.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited May 2007
    I though tit was shitty.

    this isn't even a sentence

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    Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2007
    noir_blood wrote: »
    I though tit was shitty.

    And I've seen a hell of a lot worse. And I mean a lot worse.

    Ultraviolet anyone?

    You know, I was even able to enjoy Ultraviolet on a very basic level. There are only three movies I can think of that I truly just did not like, and thought were genuinely horrible. The Man Who Knew Too Little, Bones, and Van Helsing. And even Van Helsing just bored me more than anything else.

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    The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I think the worst movie I've seen in theaters was Blade Trinity.

    However I got to see it at a private screening with friends so I got to express my disgust the whole time, which was really fun for me.

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    Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    The worst movie I've seen in theaters was probably Teaching Mrs. Tingle.

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    ZephonateZephonate Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Guek wrote: »
    yeah the harry + bomb scene was confusing but they did alude to some kind of accerated healing, as servo mentioned.

    i thought raimi missed a big opportunity to use pete's spidey sense. i mean, at least have tobey pull a weird "wait...wtf..." face before being snatched up by harry. but the main thing that bothered me is that during the fight with venom, they definitely should have displayed the suit being immune to his spider sense. brock said something about it but never really showed it. also, lack of "we are venom!" line dissappointed.

    just want to reiterate though, i loved the movie :-P my fanboy gripes with this one probably equal the contention I had with the first and its horrendous goblin costume.

    They did show Venom's ability to override the Spider-Sense. Remember when Peter was looking around for him, then Venom snatches him from above off screen? It was at the end of practically every trailer.

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    CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Zephonate wrote: »
    Guek wrote: »
    yeah the harry + bomb scene was confusing but they did alude to some kind of accerated healing, as servo mentioned.

    i thought raimi missed a big opportunity to use pete's spidey sense. i mean, at least have tobey pull a weird "wait...wtf..." face before being snatched up by harry. but the main thing that bothered me is that during the fight with venom, they definitely should have displayed the suit being immune to his spider sense. brock said something about it but never really showed it. also, lack of "we are venom!" line dissappointed.

    just want to reiterate though, i loved the movie :-P my fanboy gripes with this one probably equal the contention I had with the first and its horrendous goblin costume.

    They did show Venom's ability to override the Spider-Sense. Remember when Peter was looking around for him, then Venom snatches him from above off screen? It was at the end of practically every trailer.

    Remember the part during the entire movie where Parker didn't have Spider Sense anyways? Oh yeah, that's right-it started from the get go when GGII came from behind Parker to grab him on his scooter and every damned scene after that. Rami missed the entire movie for an opportunity.

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    TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    noir_blood wrote: »
    I though tit was shitty.

    And I've seen a hell of a lot worse. And I mean a lot worse.

    Ultraviolet anyone?

    You know, I was even able to enjoy Ultraviolet on a very basic level. There are only three movies I can think of that I truly just did not like, and thought were genuinely horrible. The Man Who Knew Too Little, Bones, and Van Helsing. And even Van Helsing just bored me more than anything else.

    I thought Ultraviolet was kind of fun, under the assumption that you went in knowing not to tak it seriously.

    The worst movie I have seen in theaters was probably Hostel. Ick.

    Regarding Spider-Man, I never really liked Venom much, but it would have totally been worth it to have more of him just for more Eddie Brock. Topher really made that role a whole lot more interesting.

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    JCMJCM Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
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    Here's the version of Venom they went with. Simple, creepy as fuck, and looks like he could beat the hell outta Peter. I think they made the right choice because A) We already have Sandman who is causing sand to fly everywhere mid-battle, we don't need a goopy Venom doing the same with his suit's "sludge" and B) The original appearance Venom is much better than the terrible evolutions he had during the 90's, as I have already said.

    Thats the exact image of Venom I saw as I looked at him.

    Venom planned, Brock showed his face a few times, and he didnt have the goopy tongue, the movie did that pretty well. Lets look at the movie Venom, as Eddie Brock with the recently-gained symbiote
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    Lets look at his first appearances
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    Im also eternally grateful that Reimi did not go with this
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    TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    JCM wrote: »
    Im also eternally grateful that Reimi did not go with this
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    If this is the version people like Hobbes were pining for... D:

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    SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    It was not as good as I thought it would be. Then again, I was looking to inject my inner child with more heroin. Better, purer heroin. Spidey 2 really opened up what could be done in terms of bringing him to life and making him seem 'real', there would have had to be a whole 'nother can of whoopass in 3 to capture that same sense of novelty and action.

    Maybe that was supposed to be Venom, but he was just an aborted fetus of an action project. Topher was commanding enough to actually blaze a hole backwards in time through the show, giving one the feeling that something else should have been there along side of the hour long 'Meanwhile' panel as Spidey brooded himself into patheticism. Sandman got ripped off in the same way. I thought Church did a great job, though it's a bit sad when one becomes more interested in the sideline story than in the main character.

    It had a high bar to reach - I still can't figure out how I'd place it if the second one hadn't raised my expectations. It was a solid spidey fix, I guess. Somehow that movie seemed both larger and smaller than it needed to be.

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    KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited May 2007
    this was an awesome movie

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