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Outside of a dog, the [books] thread is man's best friend

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    I want to say it was one of his earlier works, and it is Palahniuk with all that entails, but it's been long enough I don't remember if there were any especially egregious parts.

    Some gender stuff in the book.
    From what I remember, the narrator is a cis woman who is/was very beautiful but her face was disfigured later in life.

    She has a trans sister (I think they might be twins), and the book focuses mostly on their relationship and they go on a journey of some kind. It was also written in the late 1990s or early 2000s so there may be some problematic bits with regard to pronouns? I honestly cannot remember a lot of details.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited May 2017
    Mr. G wrote: »
    So I launched a book club-type thing with friends of mine to incentivize all of us to read more and to actually get through stuff in a timely manner

    and now it has been turned against me because the first person up's selection is Invisible Monsters by Chuck Palahniuk, to which I had to stifle an audible groan

    How bad am I in for with that one

    Chuck Palahniuk writing about women's issues with a female sounds like it could be...very not good

    As somebody who went through a Palahniuk phase, i.e. was a male teenaged nerd in 2004, I'd say it's middle-tier. It has some evocative scenes and maybe one or two interesting ideas, but it gets very Palahniuk-y in places - Wikipedia-grade summaries of things abound. And to call the plot "shaggy dog" is to give it more credit than it probably deserves.

    For frame of reference, I think the only good Palahniuk books are Survivor and Rant. Anything else runs from middling to awful.

    Poorochondriac on
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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I still haven't finished Gleik's Time Travel, and yet somehow I had to buy a book of essays by Bernard Williams. I gotta stop this booksluttery.

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Alright I read Invisible Monsters and I am resisting the extremely strong urge to throw that book into the actual trash

    That is a book with multiple shocking twist moments of "this character is actually transgender" and the book only has like 5 characters

    It is a deeply, deeply unpleasant book from beginning to end

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    V1mV1m Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    I still haven't finished Gleik's Time Travel, and yet somehow I had to buy a book of essays by Bernard Williams. I gotta stop this booksluttery.
    tynic wrote: »
    I still haven't finished Gleik's Time Travel, and yet somehow I had to buy a book of essays by Bernard Williams. I gotta stop this booksluttery.

    no bookslut shaming pls

    I'm comfortable with my bookharem

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    So I launched a book club-type thing with friends of mine to incentivize all of us to read more and to actually get through stuff in a timely manner

    and now it has been turned against me because the first person up's selection is Invisible Monsters by Chuck Palahniuk, to which I had to stifle an audible groan

    How bad am I in for with that one

    Chuck Palahniuk writing about women's issues with a female sounds like it could be...very not good

    As somebody who went through a Palahniuk phase, i.e. was a male teenaged nerd in 2004, I'd say it's middle-tier. It has some evocative scenes and maybe one or two interesting ideas, but it gets very Palahniuk-y in places - Wikipedia-grade summaries of things abound. And to call the plot "shaggy dog" is to give it more credit than it probably deserves.

    For frame of reference, I think the only good Palahniuk books are Survivor and Rant. Anything else runs from middling to awful.

    I remember liking Choke a lot, although in retrospect it has some gender issues, and Haunted has a few really striking moments (of which That One Story definitely is, but isn't the most, IMO)

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I feel similarly about Choke as I do about Fight Club - it's not as good as Survivor or Rant, but I still bear it a good deal of lingering fondness, occasionally for reasons that it does not fully deserve.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I bought a bunch of books yesterday

    Things Fall Apart
    Mother night
    The kite runner
    100 years of solitude

    And a goofy looking self help book that was called something you're a badass something

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I haven't read too much Vonnegut, but it's bleak as hell and very fast reading

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    I finished reading The Braided Path yesterday. Still trying to work out my feelings on it. It was competent but I don't know if it was actually good in the way I wanted it to be? Definitely got better as it went along, though.

    Still, you don't find many books where the primary character is a wizard who's also a woman, so that's cool

    Need to figure out something else to read. Still in a pretty strong fantasy mood. Anyone know any good adventure-y fantasy novels with a woman as the main character?

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Just started listening to Waking Gods, the sequel to Sleeping Giants by Sylvain Neuvel, and I'm not sure whether I'm going to bail out and read the print book instead.

    The series is about finding and reassembling a giant alien robot, written in a highly realistic style, and consists of a series of interviews in the manner of World War Z. The main difference is that the interviewer in WWZ was a journalist who rarely chimed in with clarifying questions, while the interviewer in this series is a shadowy figure who is often giving the other characters advice, orders, or guidance, and may or may not be pulling the levers on everything everywhere.

    The real problem I'm having with the audiobook is that it's slightly harder to follow the interview-style dialogue when it's spoken rather than formatted, and The Interviewer has a wonderful dry sense of humor that so far is proving funnier in my head than in the narrator's voice.

    I've slowed it down from 1.25x to normal time, so I'll give it a couple more chapters while cooking dinner and see if it clicks.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    giant robot, you say?

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Quite giant, yes.

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    CaedwyrCaedwyr Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Wyborn wrote: »
    I finished reading The Braided Path yesterday. Still trying to work out my feelings on it. It was competent but I don't know if it was actually good in the way I wanted it to be? Definitely got better as it went along, though.

    Still, you don't find many books where the primary character is a wizard who's also a woman, so that's cool

    Need to figure out something else to read. Still in a pretty strong fantasy mood. Anyone know any good adventure-y fantasy novels with a woman as the main character?

    You might be interested in Kate Elliot's Crossroads series which includes Spirit Gate, Shadow Gate, Traitor's Gate. I think there might be an additional book or two in the world since I last read any. There are a number of female main characters, though the books do have multiple viewpoint characters. I found them somewhat refreshing when I first read them and worth going back to for an enjoyable read with a story that doesn't go where the genre tropes would necessarily lead the reader to expect.

    I've found The Wertzone reviews helpful for things like this in the past, and here's one post you might find handy for your search:

    This link lists a number of female epic fantasy/sci-fi authors and provides short synopses on why their works are enjoyable for the reviewer. Names covered include Robin Hobb, Kate Elliot, Elizabeth Bear, J.V. Jones, Kameron Hurley, N.K. Jemisin, Juliet E. McKenna, and J.K. Rowling.

    Caedwyr on
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    PeenPeen Registered User regular
    Sleeping Giants broke my heart. It had exactly the kind of set-up that I like but the book's format was intolerable by about halfway through. It's strictly question-and-answer interviews, with no break for any kind of expository story or anything, and it just killed me.

    I'm not saying don't read it but maybe temper your expectations.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    I read The Last Policeman, which is a book about a detective solving murders. And also there is a giant meteorite that's going to wipe out all life in 6 months time. It's a neat idea. The author loves to point out their own clever or poetic phrases.

    It'd make a pretty good tv show.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    yeah I read that a few months ago, I thought it was pretty good

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    How is The Sharing Knife? I really, genuinely loved The Curse of Chalion and Paladin of Souls but haven't read more Bujold since

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Okay, the audio version of Waking Gods has clicked. The Narrator's weird midatlantic accent was throwing me at first because I always read him as Tommy Lee Jones in my head, but he's had a couple of opportunities to be a mysterious dickhead and really sold it well.

    Jedoc on
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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Vonnegut's Mother Night is a hell of a thing, fuck

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    Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    That's one of my favourite books of all time.

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    "Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    I read The Last Policeman, which is a book about a detective solving murders. And also there is a giant meteorite that's going to wipe out all life in 6 months time. It's a neat idea. The author loves to point out their own clever or poetic phrases.

    It'd make a pretty good tv show.

    It's got two sequels, which are not as good but still pretty solid

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Hiya book thread. Usually I buy books because they're a) by authors I already like, or b) i read an interesting review. Today I bought Kafka's Son, even though it has neither of these properties, because it's about everything my internal nerd gets excited about. Prague! Kafka! Danny Kaye! Golems!

    i'll let you know how it goes.

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    tynic wrote: »
    Hiya book thread. Usually I buy books because they're a) by authors I already like, or b) i read an interesting review. Today I bought Kafka's Son, even though it has neither of these properties, because it's about everything my internal nerd gets excited about. Prague! Kafka! Danny Kaye! Golems!

    i'll let you know how it goes.

    Have you read The Golem and the Jinni by Helene Wecker? It's about a golem whose creator dies on the ship from Prague to New York in 1899, and from there is a literary rom com with a jinni who is accidentally summoned by a coppersmith living in the Syrian neighborhood of Lower Manhattan during the same period.

    I...suspect you may dig it.

    Jedoc on
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    Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    I read that on an airplane. It was a real good popcorn book.

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    "Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
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    V1mV1m Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Hiya book thread. Usually I buy books because they're a) by authors I already like, or b) i read an interesting review. Today I bought Kafka's Son, even though it has neither of these properties, because it's about everything my internal nerd gets excited about. Prague! Kafka! Danny Kaye! Golems!

    i'll let you know how it goes.

    Golems, you say....?

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    I finished Mother Night shortly after posting that comment.

    Wow

    Very good commentary on identity. I'm not sure if that's the best wording for my thoughts.

    I think I'll read the kite runner next.

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    hello book thread

    I need new and exciting detective novels

    go

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    how new

    Gun Machine by Warren Ellis is a couple years old but it's real cool

    same with The Last Policeman

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Not For Nothing by Stephen Graham Jones
    Zoo City by Lauren Beukes (she also did Broken Monsters and The Shining Girls, but I'd say this one is her best)
    I'll second Gun Machine by Warren Ellis
    His Bloody Project by Graeme Macrae Burnet is far from a traditional detective novel, but still a really cool mystery sort of thing

    Straightzi on
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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    YaYa wrote: »
    hello book thread

    I need new and exciting detective novels

    go

    How do you feel about private investigators who are also wizards?

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    YaYa wrote: »
    hello book thread

    I need new and exciting detective novels

    go

    How do you feel about private investigators who are also wizards?

    been there done that

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    I feel like I should get around to reading sherlock someday.

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    The Yiddish Policemans Union is a personal fave.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Crooked Little Vein is a weird mashup of American road novel and noir thriller and subculture tourism, also by Warren Ellis

    I loved it very much

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    I feel like I should get around to reading sherlock someday.

    I felt this once too.

    I was wrong.

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Uriel wrote: »
    I feel like I should get around to reading sherlock someday.

    I felt this once too.

    I was wrong.

    I dunno I have a feeling I might enjoy it.

    I don't do nearly enough reading for how fast I can do it.

    I have a huge backlog of books on my kindle though.

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    HandgimpHandgimp R+L=J Family PhotoRegistered User regular
    Garrett, P.I.?

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Cold Granite Stuart MacBride
    Into the Woods Tana French
    Dead I Well May Be Adrian McKinty
    The Watchman Robert Crais (Much more popcorn)

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    Lost SalientLost Salient blink twice if you'd like me to mercy kill youRegistered User regular
    The Twenty Year Death by Ariel S. Winter
    The Tokyo Zodiac Murders by Soji Shimada

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    "Sandra has a good solid anti-murderer vibe. My skin felt very secure and sufficiently attached to my body when I met her. Also my organs." HAIL SATAN
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