Man I wish I didn't move Olivia from 4* to 5*. It's such a pain in the ass to level a dancer. I'm going to have to take 2 healers and a def buffer to keep her from dying.
I've accumulated so many crystals for leveling that I don't use because I want SP. Dancers (minus beastly azura) and healers are the exception. Worth just pumping them up with shards/crystals!
I can't remember if I read it here or somewhere else, but if you can get 4800 in the arena, you can float between 18-20 tiers.
I've found I need all 5* to do it, including the bonus hero. I have a lot of SI as well since that plays a part.
For example, my team just got 4818.
Sharena with Fensalir, reposition, glimmer, fury 3, desperation 3 and threaten speed 3.
Lucina with falchion, reciprocal aid, moonbow, fury 3, sword breaker 3, spur atk 3.
Hector with armads, swap, bonfire, distant counter, vantage 3, hone speed 3.
Ninian with light breath+, dance, iceberg, triangle adept 2, wings of mercy 2, fortify defense 3.
I think every full skill you inherit (up to rank 3) probably gives you 2-4 or so more points in arena? Meaning if you add in 3 more skills per hero, it could mean up to 48 per match or 336 total points in a full run if that is true (don't quote me on it).
I haven't been able to find out the math in SI influence. This is an example of how to improve your score with what you have. Desperation isn't ideal on sharena, but gets me more points and can be useful sometimes.
Man I wish I didn't move Olivia from 4* to 5*. It's such a pain in the ass to level a dancer. I'm going to have to take 2 healers and a def buffer to keep her from dying.
Take dance off her and run two other dancers and a healer in the tower. It'll be slow because it's not like she lights the world on fire with her attack, but it will be much faster than otherwise.
Kinda tempted to spend some orbs (50 or so) to try and get Azura and Cordelia. Hmm..
Well, I got absolutely nothing noteworthy from the bride banner. The weapon triangle one got me a 5-star Catria (-Atk though) and a +Atk, -Spd 4-star Effie.
Best Effie!
I know! She's (potentially) great, but it doesn't exactly fix my problem that my roster is waaaay too heavy on reds and blues. I desperately need a good green unit.
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Kinda tempted to spend some orbs (50 or so) to try and get Azura and Cordelia. Hmm..
Well, I got absolutely nothing noteworthy from the bride banner. The weapon triangle one got me a 5-star Catria (-Atk though) and a +Atk, -Spd 4-star Effie.
Best Effie!
I know! She's (potentially) great, but it doesn't exactly fix my problem that my roster is waaaay too heavy on reds and blues. I desperately need a good green unit.
I feel like green is super rare. Like 90% of the green units are garbage. They really need to dump a bunch more in. I've been trying to level some of my 4* greens just to have more options personally.
Kinda tempted to spend some orbs (50 or so) to try and get Azura and Cordelia. Hmm..
Well, I got absolutely nothing noteworthy from the bride banner. The weapon triangle one got me a 5-star Catria (-Atk though) and a +Atk, -Spd 4-star Effie.
Best Effie!
I know! She's (potentially) great, but it doesn't exactly fix my problem that my roster is waaaay too heavy on reds and blues. I desperately need a good green unit.
I feel like green is super rare. Like 90% of the green units are garbage. They really need to dump a bunch more in. I've been trying to level some of my 4* greens just to have more options personally.
Yeah, out of all the greens in the game less than ten are regularly used in arena - Hector, S!Camilla, Nino, Julia, Titania, and very occasionally I see a Soren/Boey.
It's been tempting to make a team with a majority of greens to counter the current blue meta, but it's hard finding usable choices. Right now my best greens are all fliers, so Flier Emblem is a possibility - but none of them can easily deal with Hector aside from Cherche, who even with a Brave Axe+ and Axebreaker still takes 20+ damage.
There are really great greens: Hector, Julia, Nino. Bunny Camilla can be, but limited availabilty. Brave Axe+ Cherche. The problem is they need heavy SI, are very rare, or need a buffer to shine. There are not that many medium rarity greens that you can slot in anywhere like you can with red and blue.
I think a good idea if you need a green is to invest in Anna. Then you get her for 1/3 of the arena seasons as well.
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Yeah, I'd raise a green mage, but unfortunately, all 3 of my ninos are -atk. I've been considering taking one to 5* to feed to cecilia, but that's a lot of feathers
My Cherche is probably my single best unit. She is absolutely insane. Granted, it took a lot of investment to get her there, and I don't have Reinhardt. (Do have the likes of Ike, Nowi, and Hector though).
Yeah, I'd raise a green mage, but unfortunately, all 3 of my ninos are -atk. I've been considering taking one to 5* to feed to cecilia, but that's a lot of feathers
If any of those Ninos are + Spd, I'd still promote, personally. Bladetombs, in my experience, care about Speed more as a rule anyways, and minus 3 or whatever atk when you are buffing through the roof is of little consequence.
I never promoted any of my Ninos because I haven't snagged a Spd one, but I have no idea what the IVs on my SCamilla are. All I remember is that they are not 'ideal'. It doesn't matter. She shit-whips everything I put her in front of. With the 4* bladetomb.
E: Provided you have the supporting cast to really allow Nino to do her best.
Fae is actually a super good green unit I think. She was like the third five star unit I pulled and has stayed on my arena team and pulled her weight without any skill inheritance whatsoever until I finally gave her Iceberg like two days ago. She especially checks all of the units that tend to give carry Kagero trouble (Reinhardt, Male Robin, Effie), she can tank a round of battle with basically anything except sword lords, and she can usually punch through Vantage, even on red units since all the popular Vantage users have garbage RES.
Probably not going to give her Lightning Breath+ but I might test out plain old Lightning Breath and Quick Riposte or something.
Are falchion users in the meta? I haven't seen one in ages.
Babyhands and his dancing crew killed the falchion heavy meta from the first month IMHO. it's rare that I see one either. more often I see oppos with ryoma or tharja in their red slot.
Camilla's pitiful attack stat means you need a +atk nature to make her a bad Cherche, or otherwise gotta inherit her a higher power weapon so she can actually get some real damage going. Alternatively you could use flier buffs, but if you're playing flier emblem you're using her spring version in your green slot instead anyway.
Note: He also has Goad Cavalry, but since I have blade tome (4*) Cecilia and my still 4* Xander has Hone, I need a Fortify. I am considering putting Goad on Cecilia actually with the 4* Camus. Not sure who my 4th horsey should be. Might work om Ursula since olwen/rein elude me. Also...if I'd thought about it more, I would have given him Draconic Aura and not Bonfire. Oh well...
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Note: He also has Goad Cavalry, but since I have blade tome (4*) Cecilia and my still 4* Xander has Hone, I need a Fortify. I am considering putting Goad on Cecilia actually with the 4* Camus. Not sure who my 4th horsey should be. Might work om Ursula since olwen/rein elude me. Also...if I'd thought about it more, I would have given him Draconic Aura and not Bonfire. Oh well...
Wouldn't Bonfire perform better anyways? Draconic Aura gives 30% ATK which is 15 damage, whereas Bonfire gives 50% DEF for 17, right?
But on the same topic of Horse Emblem, now I'm seriously considering leveling up a Cecilia and giving her a blade tome, instead of powering up Nino herself. The main reason for that is:
It's probably the same either way with DA vs Bonfire with horse buffs. Camus would be up at 57 attack feom hone or with Goad too 61. But i majnly just realized i had a 4* corrin sitting there so could have fed instead of promoting a tiki and saving 2k feathers. No biggie either way really. Assuming specials benefit from buffs...im too lazy to have checked that haha.
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Damn, having Reinhardt on my team is the difference between "struggling to hit 4500 points consistently" and "anything less than 4700 points is a disappointment."
Damn, having Reinhardt on my team is the difference between "struggling to hit 4500 points consistently" and "anything less than 4700 points is a disappointment."
This guy just annihilates things.
As we like to say, "no one puts baby hands in the corner."
I'm expecting to bounce between t16 and t17 every other week for a while now because I have no 5*+'s. Although my team is mostly decked with at least 2 SIs.
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I just realized I have a +atk Reinhardt. He can be a pet project to replace my Dude Robin. I have no Klein though sadly, I do have spring Lucina though..
Damn, having Reinhardt on my team is the difference between "struggling to hit 4500 points consistently" and "anything less than 4700 points is a disappointment."
This guy just annihilates things.
As we like to say, "no one puts baby hands in the corner."
I'm expecting to bounce between t16 and t17 every other week for a while now because I have no 5*+'s. Although my team is mostly decked with at least 2 SIs.
I'm with you on the tier thing - I can comfortably hit the promotion tier for T16, but in T17 the same score put me in the relegation tier.
I'm expecting Camus to be on the next list of arena bonus heroes, so it might be time for full-on Horse Emblem. To that end, I'm thinking of how to build Xander and Camus. Camus is probably going to be the standard Fury/Vantage due to his 32/33 offensive spread. Xander is 32/24, so Quick Riposte definitely beats out Vantage here due to the guaranteed double, but then Fury works against QR. Distant DEF would be amazing but I don't have Celica.
The way I see it though, Xander's SPD and RES are so abysmal that they're unsalvageable. I'll probably grab ATK/DEF 2 from S!Chrom and call it a day - Xander would end up with 50 ATK/39 DEF, without having to deal with the HP loss from Fury.
My Xander is going to just have DEF +3 and QR 2, with Bonfire and Hone Cavalry. I don't want to sacrifice my S!Chrom to him...even though it's definitely better. I'll always have it there to do if I want too though. Camus works much better than him as Fury/Vantage due to his higher speed. Xander is the wall and Camus is the muscle. I am going to make sure Xander has both Reposition and Swap...Swap may end up being better to make sure he's in the defensive line of fire.
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Got bored and decided I might as well pull Reds on the Hinata banner for an extra 3% to get Fury and maybe stumble into my first Lon'qu ever (honestly unbelievable) for Camus.
Not have any units die - you're docked points for every unit that falls. Movement skills like Swap and Draw Back are a big boon for accomplishing that.
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I've accumulated so many crystals for leveling that I don't use because I want SP. Dancers (minus beastly azura) and healers are the exception. Worth just pumping them up with shards/crystals!
I've found I need all 5* to do it, including the bonus hero. I have a lot of SI as well since that plays a part.
For example, my team just got 4818.
Sharena with Fensalir, reposition, glimmer, fury 3, desperation 3 and threaten speed 3.
Lucina with falchion, reciprocal aid, moonbow, fury 3, sword breaker 3, spur atk 3.
Hector with armads, swap, bonfire, distant counter, vantage 3, hone speed 3.
Ninian with light breath+, dance, iceberg, triangle adept 2, wings of mercy 2, fortify defense 3.
I think every full skill you inherit (up to rank 3) probably gives you 2-4 or so more points in arena? Meaning if you add in 3 more skills per hero, it could mean up to 48 per match or 336 total points in a full run if that is true (don't quote me on it).
I haven't been able to find out the math in SI influence. This is an example of how to improve your score with what you have. Desperation isn't ideal on sharena, but gets me more points and can be useful sometimes.
Edit: of course I google it and find this to help estimate arena score: https://www.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/6dun7r/arena_score_calculations.
I don't have another dancer is the problem lol.
I know! She's (potentially) great, but it doesn't exactly fix my problem that my roster is waaaay too heavy on reds and blues. I desperately need a good green unit.
I feel like green is super rare. Like 90% of the green units are garbage. They really need to dump a bunch more in. I've been trying to level some of my 4* greens just to have more options personally.
Yeah, out of all the greens in the game less than ten are regularly used in arena - Hector, S!Camilla, Nino, Julia, Titania, and very occasionally I see a Soren/Boey.
It's been tempting to make a team with a majority of greens to counter the current blue meta, but it's hard finding usable choices. Right now my best greens are all fliers, so Flier Emblem is a possibility - but none of them can easily deal with Hector aside from Cherche, who even with a Brave Axe+ and Axebreaker still takes 20+ damage.
I think a good idea if you need a green is to invest in Anna. Then you get her for 1/3 of the arena seasons as well.
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If any of those Ninos are + Spd, I'd still promote, personally. Bladetombs, in my experience, care about Speed more as a rule anyways, and minus 3 or whatever atk when you are buffing through the roof is of little consequence.
I never promoted any of my Ninos because I haven't snagged a Spd one, but I have no idea what the IVs on my SCamilla are. All I remember is that they are not 'ideal'. It doesn't matter. She shit-whips everything I put her in front of. With the 4* bladetomb.
E: Provided you have the supporting cast to really allow Nino to do her best.
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Also hurray 5* olwen
Boo - spd /+def
I mean, it's not terrible. You want all her damage front loaded because of the double hit tome anyway.
Probably not going to give her Lightning Breath+ but I might test out plain old Lightning Breath and Quick Riposte or something.
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Babyhands and his dancing crew killed the falchion heavy meta from the first month IMHO. it's rare that I see one either. more often I see oppos with ryoma or tharja in their red slot.
Roy and Lyn have 28/29, Caeda has 34. Eliwood 32.
Lucina, Marth, Chrom, Ryoma and Ike all hover around 20.
So they get stepped on hard by Babyhands, or horse emblem after buffs.
Camilla hasn't been very popular since the first month, but I still regularly use her to kill blue mages and do flier Reposition shenanigans.
Note: He also has Goad Cavalry, but since I have blade tome (4*) Cecilia and my still 4* Xander has Hone, I need a Fortify. I am considering putting Goad on Cecilia actually with the 4* Camus. Not sure who my 4th horsey should be. Might work om Ursula since olwen/rein elude me. Also...if I'd thought about it more, I would have given him Draconic Aura and not Bonfire. Oh well...
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Wouldn't Bonfire perform better anyways? Draconic Aura gives 30% ATK which is 15 damage, whereas Bonfire gives 50% DEF for 17, right?
But on the same topic of Horse Emblem, now I'm seriously considering leveling up a Cecilia and giving her a blade tome, instead of powering up Nino herself. The main reason for that is:
Feeling a real lack of feathers, want to get Xander and Camus to 5* to join my Hectors but only got 17k.
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I may have to push back my Flier Emblem plans at this rate.
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This guy just annihilates things.
As we like to say, "no one puts baby hands in the corner."
I'm expecting to bounce between t16 and t17 every other week for a while now because I have no 5*+'s. Although my team is mostly decked with at least 2 SIs.
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I'm with you on the tier thing - I can comfortably hit the promotion tier for T16, but in T17 the same score put me in the relegation tier.
I'm expecting Camus to be on the next list of arena bonus heroes, so it might be time for full-on Horse Emblem. To that end, I'm thinking of how to build Xander and Camus. Camus is probably going to be the standard Fury/Vantage due to his 32/33 offensive spread. Xander is 32/24, so Quick Riposte definitely beats out Vantage here due to the guaranteed double, but then Fury works against QR. Distant DEF would be amazing but I don't have Celica.
The way I see it though, Xander's SPD and RES are so abysmal that they're unsalvageable. I'll probably grab ATK/DEF 2 from S!Chrom and call it a day - Xander would end up with 50 ATK/39 DEF, without having to deal with the HP loss from Fury.
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Got a 3* Hinata (woo!) and...
Tharja is +Atk/-HP too!
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Not sure what I'm supposed to do differently here, unless I just have to get incredibly lucky.