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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    So my company announced instead of our annual ski trip, they're taking everyone to mexico for two weeks this year, first week free time off, second week they're renting a boardroom in the hotel and we're going to work while we're down there. Fuck I love working @ a tech company w/ a totally virtualized infrastructure.

    "Y... yes, we're uh... we're going to be working from these bathtubs full of ice... d...drink this! It'll get you in the spirit!"

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  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    a5ehren wrote: »
    Having to be around my co-workers 24/7 for 2 weeks (in a foreign country, even) sounds like a pure distilled form of hell. And we don't have any major interpersonal issues, even.

    I could put up with a lot for 2 weeks of ski trip.

    Also if you work for an MSP or tech company of some sort where it isn't a vanishingly small number of IT people and a large number of idiots, it wouldn't be too bad at all.

  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    And remember it's also a week of free time. He could also just screw off on his own for a week and then meet everyone for "work" the second week.

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  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    I'm in Mexico right now.

    It's pretty great.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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  • SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    a5ehren wrote: »
    Having to be around my co-workers 24/7 for 2 weeks (in a foreign country, even) sounds like a pure distilled form of hell. And we don't have any major interpersonal issues, even.

    Yet.

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    Cog wrote: »
    a5ehren wrote: »
    Having to be around my co-workers 24/7 for 2 weeks (in a foreign country, even) sounds like a pure distilled form of hell. And we don't have any major interpersonal issues, even.

    I could put up with a lot for 2 weeks of ski trip.

    Also if you work for an MSP or tech company of some sort where it isn't a vanishingly small number of IT people and a large number of idiots, it wouldn't be too bad at all.

    That sounds like the opposite of what I want.

    No offense to anybody here, but the last people I want to hang out with are IT people.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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  • lwt1973lwt1973 King of Thieves SyndicationRegistered User regular
    So my company announced instead of our annual ski trip, they're taking everyone to mexico for two weeks this year, first week free time off, second week they're renting a boardroom in the hotel and we're going to work while we're down there. Fuck I love working @ a tech company w/ a totally virtualized infrastructure.

    I guess they're doing this IRL now.

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  • BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    So my company announced instead of our annual ski trip, they're taking everyone to mexico for two weeks this year, first week free time off, second week they're renting a boardroom in the hotel and we're going to work while we're down there. Fuck I love working @ a tech company w/ a totally virtualized infrastructure.

    May your free week resemble this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r8jlHDBMsw

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    a5ehren wrote: »
    Having to be around my co-workers 24/7 for 2 weeks (in a foreign country, even) sounds like a pure distilled form of hell. And we don't have any major interpersonal issues, even.

    I never go to happy hours or similar (to my career's detriment, I'm sure)

    but on the company dime, sure whatever

    Mexico is a big country, innit
    Feral wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    a5ehren wrote: »
    Having to be around my co-workers 24/7 for 2 weeks (in a foreign country, even) sounds like a pure distilled form of hell. And we don't have any major interpersonal issues, even.

    I could put up with a lot for 2 weeks of ski trip.

    Also if you work for an MSP or tech company of some sort where it isn't a vanishingly small number of IT people and a large number of idiots, it wouldn't be too bad at all.

    That sounds like the opposite of what I want.

    No offense to anybody here, but the last people I want to hang out with are IT people.

    Feral

    yes

    You and me, buddy. Someday I want to nod politely as we pass one another in a hallway, both secure that that's the extent of personal interaction required to maintain a professional working environment.

    TL DR on
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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    r/sysadmin wrote:
    So this happened about an hour ago.
    I was doing a facility check at the datacenter where I work and got stuck in the freight elevator.
    Of course it was a faraday cage so no cell signal, but I did have wifi signal. So I submitted a ticket that I was trapped in the elevator.
    Thank you ticketing systems.

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    Assigned to wrong department. Ticket Closed.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    a5ehren wrote: »
    Having to be around my co-workers 24/7 for 2 weeks (in a foreign country, even) sounds like a pure distilled form of hell. And we don't have any major interpersonal issues, even.

    I never go to happy hours or similar (to my career's detriment, I'm sure)

    but on the company dime, sure whatever

    Mexico is a big country, innit
    Feral wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    a5ehren wrote: »
    Having to be around my co-workers 24/7 for 2 weeks (in a foreign country, even) sounds like a pure distilled form of hell. And we don't have any major interpersonal issues, even.

    I could put up with a lot for 2 weeks of ski trip.

    Also if you work for an MSP or tech company of some sort where it isn't a vanishingly small number of IT people and a large number of idiots, it wouldn't be too bad at all.

    That sounds like the opposite of what I want.

    No offense to anybody here, but the last people I want to hang out with are IT people.

    Feral

    yes

    You and me, buddy. Someday I want to nod politely as we pass one another in a hallway, both secure that that's the extent of personal interaction required to maintain a professional working environment.

    I'm working under the assumption that the "free week" is still at whatever resort they're doing the second week at.

  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    I used to dread Christmas parties. Two weeks with those people? I'd volunteer to be the guy who is stuck in the office. At least it would be quiet.

    bowenFeral
  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Now that I work in an office situation where I actually do enjoy the people I work with, I can honestly say that there's a group here that I'd absolutely go on a trip like that with. I never would have considered it in prior jobs, but I can absolutely see with the group of people I work with now.

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  • xiearsxiears It isn't sexual Strictly confectionalRegistered User regular
    What are people's opinions on the CompTIA certifications? From the bit of research I've done so far they seem to be the default recommendation for anyone starting out, but I'm a little unsure, especially since they expire after 3 years. Is this not really an issue, and most just pony up the $150 cost every 3 years? Or are they just seen as stepping stones up to harder certs, and people let them expire once they have those?

    I'm not even sure if they would be that useful for me, given that I'm a senior developer who is having to jump in at the deep end with setting up our servers (terrifying I know), so I want to learn more of the IT/sysadmin side of things. I figured the certs would give some structure to my self learning, and also a few shiny baubles for the CV.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Certs are not a good way to learn. Certs are a way to prove to HR that you've already learned and paid the industry dues. You HAVE to keep doing the continuing education stuff and paying the cert dollars.

    But, like, studying for a cert's test is an awful way to learn the subject matter, especially since the tests are half wrong/arbitrary bullshit anyway.

    They CAN help with job hunting if you're in the right industry, though. Since I do contract work, many contracts require the specific set of certs I have, which automatically puts me in the right class of job seekers. Doesn't help even a tiny iota once you get past the initial HR screener, though, and actually have to interview with someone who knows what the fuck they're talking about.

    What is this I don't even.
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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Certs are not a good way to learn. Certs are a way to prove to HR that you've already learned and paid the industry dues. You HAVE to keep doing the continuing education stuff and paying the cert dollars.

    But, like, studying for a cert's test is an awful way to learn the subject matter, especially since the tests are half wrong/arbitrary bullshit anyway.

    They CAN help with job hunting if you're in the right industry, though. Since I do contract work, many contracts require the specific set of certs I have, which automatically puts me in the right class of job seekers. Doesn't help even a tiny iota once you get past the initial HR screener, though, and actually have to interview with someone who knows what the fuck they're talking about.

    Pretty much the above.

    Though the Security+ doesn't expire as often, last I heard.

    But yeah, all that shit I had to memorize for the S+, A+, and N+ exams are p much gone except for the day to day things. I can do an A+ exam standing on my head but I'm not gonna remember what the screen personalization menu option is called when I right click the wallpaper in Windows XP, or anything about Kerberos from S+, or what limits cabling from the 1970s had from N+.

    What I have learned, however, is that if you work for 2 years at a job and make no scripts, programs, or do any documentation at all, even if it's for your own personal use in the help desk, then that doesn't really reflect well. Start bumping up your portfolio with things you've created to streamline your job, but don't include some lame shit like a SQL script that just changes 1 or 2 values.

    Or, I mean, you could, but it'll just look like fluff.

    jungleroomx on
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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    I have zero certs. I found that when I was job hunting that made it hard to get an interview. But when I got one, and I was actually interviewing with someone in the IT field and not just an HR person, then it didn't matter since I actually knew what I was talking about.

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    I have taken the S+ exam, in one way or another, 3 times in my life.

    Once I did a community college prep course in the army, took the test, and passed.

    Then, as a part of pre-deployment training (that I ended up not being deployed), we took it again over the course of 2 weeks in Fort Hood.

    THEN, my Intro to Computer Security class in college was just a fucking Security + class.

    AND I STILL DON'T KNOW THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SFTP AND FTPS WITHOUT BEING REMINDED.

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  • xiearsxiears It isn't sexual Strictly confectionalRegistered User regular
    Thanks guys, yeah, the more I read into this the more it seems like it's not worth doing, especially in my case, since I doubt I'll be looking for roles where the certs would be a deciding factor.

    Geez, looking at a previous PA thread, one of the best practices listed in the A+ exam for WiFi setup is to enable WEP. :rotate:

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    xiears wrote: »
    Thanks guys, yeah, the more I read into this the more it seems like it's not worth doing, especially in my case, since I doubt I'll be looking for roles where the certs would be a deciding factor.

    Geez, looking at a previous PA thread, one of the best practices listed in the A+ exam for WiFi setup is to enable WEP. :rotate:

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    As a side note I finally got past HR filters and am up to the third interview for a Linux administration job.

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  • SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    AND I STILL DON'T KNOW THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SFTP AND FTPS WITHOUT BEING REMINDED.

    One is a secure way of connecting to an FTP server and the other is a way of connecting to an FTP server securely.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    SFTP = SSH FTP
    FTPS = FTP over via TLS/SSL

    the worst part is I've also seen it abbreviated S-FTP

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    I prefer sftp but that's mostly because I am very comfortable working with ssh tunnels.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    sftp is solid

    you only need one service to use it, SSH

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    FTPS is always annoying because you have to deal with TLS.

    SFTP is only annoying when you need to do a few specific things (chroot being a big one).

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    One time I had shared hosting on a system and they didn't set up telnet/ssh's chroot jail properly and I was able to go into other user's directories and read their files and get mysql passwords.

    I opened a ticket but that was closed and I was told I didn't know what I was talking about.

    Then I posted on their forum but it was deleted within minutes.

    Even 12 year old me knew being able to CD into people's home directories was pretty bad.

    We must've been part of the same group so apache could get into our www directory.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    One time I had shared hosting on a system and they didn't set up telnet/ssh's chroot jail properly and I was able to go into other user's directories and read their files and get mysql passwords.

    I opened a ticket but that was closed and I was told I didn't know what I was talking about.

    Then I posted on their forum but it was deleted within minutes.

    Even 12 year old me knew being able to CD into people's home directories was pretty bad.

    We must've been part of the same group so apache could get into our www directory.

    you should have just started placing random files into home directories until they figured out it was an issue.

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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    ah it was read only not write

    still bad to be read only

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    @Entaru - add User Profile Wizard to the list of utilities. It's a domain account migration tool. Right now we're using it to migrate a business to a brand new domain. You run it, select the user account you want to migrate on that PC, put in the domain name you're migrating to, and what you want the account to be named afterwards (must be pre-created) and it automatically disjoin/rejoins the PC to the new domain and sorts out NTFS permissions for all the local files in the user's profile. PC reboots, done. Welcome to your new domain, all your files work and you have rights to them all with your new domain's account, even if the naming scheme changed.

    Cog on
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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    Done. Fantastic tool.

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    Anyone wanting to learn Puppet there is apparently a VM designed for that purpose: https://puppet.com/download-learning-vm

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  • ArtoriaArtoria Registered User regular
    We had an issue with E-mail with multiple picture attachments not landing in an inbox that is forwarded by the ticket system. Tried to trace message and it's no where to be seen in Office 365. I get Microsoft on the line. Sent them all the required info they asked for and they are clueless as ever. At one point they locked up the account and all of our e-mailed in tickets get stuck. I blast the Microsoft guy for it and he undid his change but "this may take 24-48 hours to complete". I get with our CTO because we are a Microsoft partner and this is unacceptable. He's very sympathetic and we work around it together by creating a new temp box and have the old one forward to that while we wait for whatever voodoo he did to undo itself. Today I get a call from our CTO who did some further digging on his own. We then find that the ticket system had been kicking back rejection notifications but they had been closed by various level 1's because "we have no idea what this is". The rejections gave us enough info to figure this out and get with our workflow partner to get a fix in. I'm now terrified to think what else they may have been closing.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    SFTP = SSH FTP
    FTPS = FTP over via TLS/SSL

    the worst part is I've also seen it abbreviated S-FTP

    Pretty much.

    SFTP is not actually FTP. It's SSH with file transfers. I kinda hate that it's called SFTP because I've found that it causes a lot of confusion.

    FTPS is FTP with encryption.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    I've seen SFTP called SSH File Transfer and SCP (Secure Copy Protocol)

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    Feral
  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    I've seen SFTP called SSH File Transfer and SCP (Secure Copy Protocol)

    Secure, Contain, Protect (your files)

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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  • ThawmusThawmus +Jackface Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    I've seen SFTP called SSH File Transfer and SCP (Secure Copy Protocol)


    What? You knifed those people, I hope.

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  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Thawmus wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    I've seen SFTP called SSH File Transfer and SCP (Secure Copy Protocol)


    What? You knifed those people, I hope.

    Or got them a "cup of joe"

    Feral
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    One of the better SFTP clients on Windows is called WinSCP so yeah

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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