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  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Backup Exec is terrible.

    But I feel like there hasn't been any good backup software ever.

    None of them are simple, none of them just work. I don't need a fancy archive system, just put it in a fucking zip file for christ's sake, that makes it easy to verify it's working without having to go 8 steps into a restore procedure in your software just to verify it.

    It seems so simple. You just need to hash files to verify their validity.
    Yes, please zip up these 3 million files into a 1.2TB zip file. And while you're there, can you restore the copy from Tuesday? Because I deleted the file on Wednesday... Actually, you know what, I deleted the entire folder, so make sure you fix the security.

    I mean, for very small business, yeah, you can do some homegrown stuff. At a previous job, I backed up our Linux server for free to a clone with all security and incrementals using a thing that sat on top of rsync. But for this job, we'll pay whatever it costs to get EMC Networker to play well with all of our servers and services. Networker has problems, but once it works, it's pretty nice.

    Nothing outlandish about that. The archives that backexec uses just play off things like tarballs and gzip. It's old technology. Very old. Where they shine is cataloging. But because they're using a proprietary modification to tarbell and zip, you can't even access the internals without their software usually. To me that's bad.

    There's no reason a zip file can't be 1.2TB or hold 3 million files. You obviously wouldn't want to open that in memory, but you don't need to to extract files from it. Zip files have a header system that you can get the file's information and contents without loading the entire god damned thing into memory. Windows' zip stuff is garbage and basically barfs at very large zip files, but you shouldn't use windows' zip stuff for that anyways.

    Zip files borrow a lot of mechanisms from hard drives and file systems. You have FATs and blocks, and all that fun, fun stuff. You can absolutely make dealing with TB sized zip files fairly fast, and, well, better than using a file that can only be opened by backupexec 14.3.5.23

    Yeah, I have some backup software that I originally wrote to backup minecraft servers that I have adapted to other purposes. It uses a 7zip binary internally.

    bowen
  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    twmjr wrote: »
    cisco documentation fun:

    The MIP100 is a network card that has two subslots into which you put modules depending on what kind of ports you need.

    The documentation is very clear that it only has two subslots.

    This includes the fact that the hardware itself has the slots numbered as 0 and 1 on the card.

    The documentation then proceeds to display examples with modules inserted into subslots 0, 1 and 2 with no explanation as to why or where the number 2 came from.

    :rotate:

    Uh, you said it yourself. It has TWO slots, which is why they're labeled zero, one, and TWO.

  • twmjrtwmjr Registered User regular
    if there are two total subslots, and you start your numbering at 0, then there should only be 0 and 1. having subslots numbered 0, 1, and 2 would mean there were 3 total subslots.

  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    twmjr wrote: »
    if there are two total subslots, and you start your numbering at 0, then there should only be 0 and 1. having subslots numbered 0, 1, and 2 would mean there were 3 total subslots.

    Nah, the guys who wrote the manual wrote it in Lua.

    SeidkonaFeralApothe0sis
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Backup Exec is terrible.

    But I feel like there hasn't been any good backup software ever.

    None of them are simple, none of them just work. I don't need a fancy archive system, just put it in a fucking zip file for christ's sake, that makes it easy to verify it's working without having to go 8 steps into a restore procedure in your software just to verify it.

    It seems so simple. You just need to hash files to verify their validity.
    Yes, please zip up these 3 million files into a 1.2TB zip file. And while you're there, can you restore the copy from Tuesday? Because I deleted the file on Wednesday... Actually, you know what, I deleted the entire folder, so make sure you fix the security.

    I mean, for very small business, yeah, you can do some homegrown stuff. At a previous job, I backed up our Linux server for free to a clone with all security and incrementals using a thing that sat on top of rsync. But for this job, we'll pay whatever it costs to get EMC Networker to play well with all of our servers and services. Networker has problems, but once it works, it's pretty nice.

    Nothing outlandish about that. The archives that backexec uses just play off things like tarballs and gzip. It's old technology. Very old. Where they shine is cataloging. But because they're using a proprietary modification to tarbell and zip, you can't even access the internals without their software usually. To me that's bad.

    There's no reason a zip file can't be 1.2TB or hold 3 million files. You obviously wouldn't want to open that in memory, but you don't need to to extract files from it. Zip files have a header system that you can get the file's information and contents without loading the entire god damned thing into memory. Windows' zip stuff is garbage and basically barfs at very large zip files, but you shouldn't use windows' zip stuff for that anyways.

    Zip files borrow a lot of mechanisms from hard drives and file systems. You have FATs and blocks, and all that fun, fun stuff. You can absolutely make dealing with TB sized zip files fairly fast, and, well, better than using a file that can only be opened by backupexec 14.3.5.23
    I don't know why I'd ever need to dig into the files themselves when I'm paying for support, but then I've never used BackupExec. (My boss tried to get me to look at it once for cost saving reasons, but nah.) Networker works fine for my uses.

    Mostly just for verification, but yeah I'd rather use the software if it wasn't so god damned terrible.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Backup Exec is terrible.

    But I feel like there hasn't been any good backup software ever.

    None of them are simple, none of them just work. I don't need a fancy archive system, just put it in a fucking zip file for christ's sake, that makes it easy to verify it's working without having to go 8 steps into a restore procedure in your software just to verify it.

    It seems so simple. You just need to hash files to verify their validity.
    Yes, please zip up these 3 million files into a 1.2TB zip file. And while you're there, can you restore the copy from Tuesday? Because I deleted the file on Wednesday... Actually, you know what, I deleted the entire folder, so make sure you fix the security.

    I mean, for very small business, yeah, you can do some homegrown stuff. At a previous job, I backed up our Linux server for free to a clone with all security and incrementals using a thing that sat on top of rsync. But for this job, we'll pay whatever it costs to get EMC Networker to play well with all of our servers and services. Networker has problems, but once it works, it's pretty nice.

    Nothing outlandish about that. The archives that backexec uses just play off things like tarballs and gzip. It's old technology. Very old. Where they shine is cataloging. But because they're using a proprietary modification to tarbell and zip, you can't even access the internals without their software usually. To me that's bad.

    There's no reason a zip file can't be 1.2TB or hold 3 million files. You obviously wouldn't want to open that in memory, but you don't need to to extract files from it. Zip files have a header system that you can get the file's information and contents without loading the entire god damned thing into memory. Windows' zip stuff is garbage and basically barfs at very large zip files, but you shouldn't use windows' zip stuff for that anyways.

    Zip files borrow a lot of mechanisms from hard drives and file systems. You have FATs and blocks, and all that fun, fun stuff. You can absolutely make dealing with TB sized zip files fairly fast, and, well, better than using a file that can only be opened by backupexec 14.3.5.23
    I don't know why I'd ever need to dig into the files themselves when I'm paying for support, but then I've never used BackupExec. (My boss tried to get me to look at it once for cost saving reasons, but nah.) Networker works fine for my uses.

    Mostly just for verification, but yeah I'd rather use the software if it wasn't so god damned terrible.

    Uh, I can think of one reason why I'd want to dig into the files: Once upon a time the backup software failed to open a backup archive. The End.

    I have been called in to fix this problem for a client before. It's not fun when the backups are some garbage proprietary format.

    bowenSeidkonaArcSynThawmusMvrck
  • ThawmusThawmus +Jackface Registered User regular
    LD50 wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Backup Exec is terrible.

    But I feel like there hasn't been any good backup software ever.

    None of them are simple, none of them just work. I don't need a fancy archive system, just put it in a fucking zip file for christ's sake, that makes it easy to verify it's working without having to go 8 steps into a restore procedure in your software just to verify it.

    It seems so simple. You just need to hash files to verify their validity.
    Yes, please zip up these 3 million files into a 1.2TB zip file. And while you're there, can you restore the copy from Tuesday? Because I deleted the file on Wednesday... Actually, you know what, I deleted the entire folder, so make sure you fix the security.

    I mean, for very small business, yeah, you can do some homegrown stuff. At a previous job, I backed up our Linux server for free to a clone with all security and incrementals using a thing that sat on top of rsync. But for this job, we'll pay whatever it costs to get EMC Networker to play well with all of our servers and services. Networker has problems, but once it works, it's pretty nice.

    Nothing outlandish about that. The archives that backexec uses just play off things like tarballs and gzip. It's old technology. Very old. Where they shine is cataloging. But because they're using a proprietary modification to tarbell and zip, you can't even access the internals without their software usually. To me that's bad.

    There's no reason a zip file can't be 1.2TB or hold 3 million files. You obviously wouldn't want to open that in memory, but you don't need to to extract files from it. Zip files have a header system that you can get the file's information and contents without loading the entire god damned thing into memory. Windows' zip stuff is garbage and basically barfs at very large zip files, but you shouldn't use windows' zip stuff for that anyways.

    Zip files borrow a lot of mechanisms from hard drives and file systems. You have FATs and blocks, and all that fun, fun stuff. You can absolutely make dealing with TB sized zip files fairly fast, and, well, better than using a file that can only be opened by backupexec 14.3.5.23
    I don't know why I'd ever need to dig into the files themselves when I'm paying for support, but then I've never used BackupExec. (My boss tried to get me to look at it once for cost saving reasons, but nah.) Networker works fine for my uses.

    Mostly just for verification, but yeah I'd rather use the software if it wasn't so god damned terrible.

    Uh, I can think of one reason why I'd want to dig into the files: Once upon a time the backup software failed to open a backup archive. The End.

    I have been called in to fix this problem for a client before. It's not fun when the backups are some garbage proprietary format.

    This is also why I like using container-based VM's, because browsing directly into a container's filesystem, regardless if it's running or not, is an amazing feeling.

    Twitch: Thawmus83
    bowenSeidkona
  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Backup Exec is terrible.

    But I feel like there hasn't been any good backup software ever.

    None of them are simple, none of them just work. I don't need a fancy archive system, just put it in a fucking zip file for christ's sake, that makes it easy to verify it's working without having to go 8 steps into a restore procedure in your software just to verify it.

    It seems so simple. You just need to hash files to verify their validity.

    BE16 is better than the Symantec versions before it, but yeah, I've already set up a scheduled task to pop the BITS Writer a few minutes before backup because that damn thing is as stable as a bridge made of dental floss and is the reason for 90% of job failures it seems.

  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Backup Exec is terrible.

    But I feel like there hasn't been any good backup software ever.

    None of them are simple, none of them just work. I don't need a fancy archive system, just put it in a fucking zip file for christ's sake, that makes it easy to verify it's working without having to go 8 steps into a restore procedure in your software just to verify it.

    It seems so simple. You just need to hash files to verify their validity.

    I'm pretty happy with Datto.

    There's a local device.

    It can make individual files available either by directly restoring them to their original location, or to an alternate location.
    Or it can present them in a network share.
    It can do bare metal restores.
    It can restore a VMDK by puking a copy out onto its local storage so you can copy it to your ESXi host.
    It can present itself as attachable storage to an ESXi server so you can copy the VMDK to another datastore through the vCenter interface.
    It can present its files in a website UI accessable anywhere via browsers for download.

    It does all that through an HTML5 interface.

    At night it syncs its files to a cloud server.

    There's a web interface where you can do all the same shit but through their website in the case of a full on disaster wiping out your local device.

  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    Entaru wrote: »
    At the old job they wanted both broadcast and round robin too.

    There's some kind of weird disconnect in how the non tech brain thinks about phone systems.

    The fight I used to get into at my old job was over forwarding calls to an external number (like a cell phone).

    Nobody seemed to understand that if a call is forwarded to your personal cell phone, and you don't pick it up, the call is going to go to your cell phone voicemail.

    No, I can't make it so that calls that go to your cell phone will be rerouted to your office voicemail if you don't pick up.

    No, I can't make it so that calls that go to your cell phone will be rerouted to a hunt group if you don't pick up.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
    SeidkonaThawmus
  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    Feral wrote: »
    Entaru wrote: »
    At the old job they wanted both broadcast and round robin too.

    There's some kind of weird disconnect in how the non tech brain thinks about phone systems.

    The fight I used to get into at my old job was over forwarding calls to an external number (like a cell phone).

    Nobody seemed to understand that if a call is forwarded to your personal cell phone, and you don't pick it up, the call is going to go to your cell phone voicemail.

    No, I can't make it so that calls that go to your cell phone will be rerouted to your office voicemail if you don't pick up.

    No, I can't make it so that calls that go to your cell phone will be rerouted to a hunt group if you don't pick up.

    One time the phones went down.

    So I was like oh well. We can't get calls until it is fixed. It was a line issue.

    So. . .

    My boss says "just forward all the lines to X's cell phone"

    I refused.

    Look if we had enough phone traffic to warrant 8 lines then there is no scenario where forwarding them all to one cellphone works out ok.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
    XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    Entaru wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Entaru wrote: »
    At the old job they wanted both broadcast and round robin too.

    There's some kind of weird disconnect in how the non tech brain thinks about phone systems.

    The fight I used to get into at my old job was over forwarding calls to an external number (like a cell phone).

    Nobody seemed to understand that if a call is forwarded to your personal cell phone, and you don't pick it up, the call is going to go to your cell phone voicemail.

    No, I can't make it so that calls that go to your cell phone will be rerouted to your office voicemail if you don't pick up.

    No, I can't make it so that calls that go to your cell phone will be rerouted to a hunt group if you don't pick up.

    One time the phones went down.

    So I was like oh well. We can't get calls until it is fixed. It was a line issue.

    So. . .

    My boss says "just forward all the lines to X's cell phone"

    I refused.

    Look if we had enough phone traffic to warrant 8 lines then there is no scenario where forwarding them all to one cellphone works out ok.

    We have a department that does that. It was set up by some long-gone technician in the prehistoric times.

    We only discovered it when the phones went down, and the calls started forwarding to the VP...

    ...who had retired two years prior, and sent us an angry email telling us to please stop spamming her cell phone.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
    AiouaSeidkonaMugsleyMvrckShadowfireEcho
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Jesus fucking christ

    some sick fuck turned on IE immersive mode on this server

    Seidkonajungleroomx
  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Jesus fucking christ

    some sick fuck turned on IE immersive mode on this server

    I've been seeing that. Apparently it's a Windows Update that's doing it.

    Seidkona
  • lwt1973lwt1973 King of Thieves SyndicationRegistered User regular
    Don't feel sad for the Equifax CEO. He's floating away on his $90 million parachute but forfeits this year's bonus of $3 million.

    "He's sulking in his tent like Achilles! It's the Iliad?...from Homer?! READ A BOOK!!" -Handy
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Jesus fucking christ

    some sick fuck turned on IE immersive mode on this server

    I've been seeing that. Apparently it's a Windows Update that's doing it.

    That is gross

    Seidkonadonavannj
  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
    SeidkonaDrovekbowen
  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    Xaviar wrote: »
    Smart computer friends!

    I don't have immediate access to this machine, so I can't test and get back to you. More just looking for ideas.

    Client has a windows 10 machine that can ping 8.8.8.8 just fine, 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 set as DNS. Unable to resolve urls.
    nslookup www.google.com 8.8.8.8 times out.

    Reset windows firewall. Other machines connecting to same gateway work fine.

    I.. Don't really know where else to look.

    @xaviar

    Did you ever get this figured out, or do you still need help?

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
    Apothe0sis
  • SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    Call from my client on Friday:

    Client: "Hey Señor. Spectrum is out upgrading our service. He wants to know how he should set stuff up."

    Me: "Have him bridge the modem and leave the static IP info. I'll be out shortly to reconfigure everything."

    C: *mumbles to the tech* "Ok, he said he can do that. Thanks."

    I get on site not 10 minutes later and the tech is gone. He left a Spectrum Home flyer (this is business class) and wrote on it in Sharpie:

    "Modem bridged. Call if you still need a static IP."

    Call up my client and he says, "Yeah, the tech said their servers were down and he couldn't get any IP info."

    M: "And he just left? That means you don't have internet access."

    C: "Yeah, I told him I didn't want to do this on a Friday. Should I call him back?"

    M: "No, let's call Spectrum direct. That guy sounds like an idiot."

    My client arrives and we call Spectrum.

    Spectrum Rep: "How can I help?"

    M: "I'm setting up a new business class internet connection for my client and your tech left without providing all the information. He bridged the modem like I asked but didn't provide any static IP info. Can you please provide me with that?"

    SR: "What IP do you think you should have?"

    M: "I don't know. Your guy never gave it to me."

    SR: "Let me see if I can ping your IP."

    M: "I have nothing programmed with any IP info because your guy left without giving it to me."

    SR: "So which IP do you want?"

    M: "The IP I need to assign to my router."

    SR: "How do you want this set up? There's two ways to bridge a modem."

    M: "Wait, what? I just need the static IP info for my router. IP, mask, gateway and DNS if you have it."

    SR: "If you'd let me finish... There are two ways to bridge a modem. Once where we put your static IP on the modem and it assigns IPs to devices behind it, and one where it just passes everything through and you put the usable IP on your router."

    M: *very audible sigh* "Ok, the second one."

    I finally got the info I needed and everything came right up, but that conversation took over 30 fucking minutes.

    There wasn't enough booze at the bar Friday night to make up for that shitfest of an interaction with Spectrum.

    bowenSeidkonaShadowfireApothe0sisFeralThawmus
  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Did I ever tell the tale of verizon fios releasing our static IP address because they had the wrong customer's account?

    It was for our other location and they didn't bother to verify anything.

    Even after I had supplied them with an account number.

    So I had to send out emails and spend a week traveling and calling people to re set up VPNs and shit.

    So now all my remote offices have SSH servers set up so I no longer have to do that.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
    Seidkona
  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    I was going to puppet conf. Then I wasn't. . .


    Now I definitely am.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
    XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    My boss is back after a 3 week european holiday.

    So I have planned to really not do any actual work this week, since he already spent 15 minutes asking me questions about random things before 8:30am on Monday.

    XBL: thewunderbar PSN: thewunderbar NNID: thewunderbar Steam: wunderbar87 Twitter: wunderbar
  • lwt1973lwt1973 King of Thieves SyndicationRegistered User regular
    Me: Let's setup the fingerprint. Just place your thumb on the button but don't push it.
    Employee with new iPhone: <Click>
    Me: So don't push the button.
    Employee with new iPhone: <Click>
    Me: Rest it lightly on the button.
    Employee with new iPhone:<Click>
    Me: ...

    Employee with new iPhone: So I have to put a code in or do the thumb thing every time I need to get into the phone? That's a pain.

    "He's sulking in his tent like Achilles! It's the Iliad?...from Homer?! READ A BOOK!!" -Handy
    Apothe0sisFeral
  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    Sounds like you need to borrow Bowen's knife.

    bowenEcho
  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    LD50 wrote: »
    Sounds like you need to borrow Bowen's knife.

    why, is he hunting cog's deer?

    XBL: thewunderbar PSN: thewunderbar NNID: thewunderbar Steam: wunderbar87 Twitter: wunderbar
    ArcSynbowenAegisThawmusjungleroomxDonovan Puppyfucker
  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    So, thanks to my Facebook stream, I can no longer see "IT" without thinking of a sysadmin in clown makeup, slowly trudging off to another trouble call.

    ArcSynDrovek
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    Damnit. Might be off again.

    Make up your minds. I can't keep making and canceling plans for you people's whims.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
    XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
  • CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    You literally can not google anything Fiserv related and find an answer of any sort and that is fucking infuriating. You have to go to Fiserv for any help whatsoever, and their support is a giant sweaty ballsack.

    FeralThawmusjungleroomx
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    I had a bad day at a client site

    I remain traumatised 96+ hours later

  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    DNS uses UDP, though?
    Technically TCP or UDP.

    But everything uses UDP and I have seen a TCP DNS client all of never.

    RandomHajilebowenThawmus
  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    The problem with backup software is that they are all bad, but there isn't a great solution to the problem.

    The reason roll your own doesn't work is that in any environment larger than like 10 machines handling exceptions is going to be the killer. Likewise things like incremental backups and such have a degree to which you can roll your own, but handling it for all sorts of data AND grandfathering and god knows what else's makes it a minefield. Especially if you want it done efficiently...

    Then you have the special snowflake Microsoft stuff such as exchange and sql that need to be backed up properly and clear transaction logs AND

    RandomHajile
  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    A pretty much perfect backup solution already exists. The problem is that it's not used for backups. It's called Git.

    LD50 on
    SeidkonabowenMvrck
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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    LD50 wrote: »
    A pretty much perfect backup solution already exists. The problem is that it's not used for backups. It's called Git.

    At my old job on my old list of things to do I had a tool that would set up and utilize git as a backup and file change management tool.

    Didn't get a chance to check it out but it looked cool.

    Mostly just huntin' monsters.
    XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    "Hey give me a call, FB Messenger said I have a virus"

    Me: "Hi mom, did you click on anything? No? Then just ignore it."
    "Oh, you want to scan to be safe? Great idea. Ok, hit the Window key once and type "malware". No, just once. Just start typing and it'll search for you. What do you mean it's not there? I installed MBAM."

    "Ok, fine. What does Avira say? The umbrella. Click on it and tell me what it says. It says it scanned at 11am and you're fine? Perfect."

    "Yes, I know I told you that if you see something like this not to click on it and let me know. The good news is that your laptop didn't get infected with anything."


    I've gone through this more than once. How hard is it for me to use a program like OBS to make a YT vid that shows her how to run her own malware and AV scans?

    The "missing MBAM" item is something I'll have to address in person.

    Feral
  • ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    "Hey give me a call, FB Messenger said I have a virus"

    Me: "Hi mom, did you click on anything? No? Then just ignore it."
    "Oh, you want to scan to be safe? Great idea. Ok, hit the Window key once and type "malware". No, just once. Just start typing and it'll search for you. What do you mean it's not there? I installed MBAM."

    "Ok, fine. What does Avira say? The umbrella. Click on it and tell me what it says. It says it scanned at 11am and you're fine? Perfect."

    "Yes, I know I told you that if you see something like this not to click on it and let me know. The good news is that your laptop didn't get infected with anything."


    I've gone through this more than once. How hard is it for me to use a program like OBS to make a YT vid that shows her how to run her own malware and AV scans?

    The "missing MBAM" item is something I'll have to address in person.

    Is she running Windows 10? I've had issues where the Windows search box doesn't show installed applications at times and instead searches the store or web, even when I know that program is installed.

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  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    Why don't you just remote into her machine?

    There's a free version of a tool a lot of us like, for personal use, in the op.

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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    I'm at work but I'll take a look at it.

    Yeah, she's on W10. Odd that it won't show up sometimes.

  • AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    I'm at work but I'll take a look at it.

    Yeah, she's on W10. Odd that it won't show up sometimes.

    It'll not show if indexing is being fucky.

    Which seems to be a problem for non-tech savvy people. My machines always index, but it's like the computer knows it can slack off when there isn't an IT guy at the keyboard.

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