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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The Howling Commandos were so forgettable that Bucky, Bucky, was the most memorable of the lot.

    By the time I saw The Winter Soldier, I'd forgotten that Bucky existed, and had no memory of anything he did past the early parts of the first CA movie.

    The Winter Soldier is the least memorable character in a film called Captain America: The Winter Soldier

    I enjoyed Civil War just fine too because I get that he means a lot to Cap as a character, but in the back of my head I'm just thinking "man, Bucky isn't really worth all this guys"

    Nah, Winter Soldier was a living, breathing, Metal Gear black ops destroyer. And his physicality (there's that word again) was felt every time he showed up. Cap, Falcon and Widow go from dominating to spending each moment trying to stay alive.

    The Winter Soldier had awesome fight choreography and gun battles.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    I love TFA but really, the Howling Commandos?

    Dum Dum Dugan is the only one I remember, mainly because his name is dumb (heh) and he has a great smile and bowler hat

    There was also Asian guy from Fresno!

    And other people maybe?

    Frenchie
    Fresno Ace
    Irish McScottish American*
    The African American Guy

    *If I didn't know about the comics, I'd be damn hard pressed to know which stereotype they were going for with DumDum in TFA.

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    There's also a ton of random stuff too when it comes to portraying Wonder Woman's power levels.

    She's on par with Superman with speed and strength, can get punched through buildings, but needs to block bullets and bombs? And as we see in the movie,
    Amazons die to bullets real good.

    A lot of this is just explained as "it works cause she's magic," and that's fine. But there are odd things about her abilities.

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    FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    Fawst wrote: »
    Veldrin wrote: »
    The only two things I remember from the Smallville fight is Hardy fully committing to knife fighting Faora (GOOD), and Clark casually floating over a thrown fuel tanker and letting it just take out yet another building that probably had people inside or nearby (BAD).

    They did a good job of showing Faora getting the upper hand against Superman with superior speed and skill.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNPRUSxEgQ

    Short of The Winter Soldier, I think the fights in Man of Steel were directed, choreographed, and edited better than pretty much anything from the Marvel camp.

    Don't get me wrong, Marvel fights have their moments (Thor waiting to uppercut the Hulk with Mjölnir comes to mind, though I'm struggling to think of any others right now). But a whole scene/sequence? Nothing comes close for me. Snyder has his (many) detractors, but the man can shoot a fight.

    Whereas I found every fight in MoS incredibly boring. I almost fell asleep during the big fight in Metropolis.

    I have to ask, what did you think of the action in Wonder Woman?

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    LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    The bracelets thing is weird in the comics, too.

    She can take a punch from Doomsday or literally bathe in a volcano, but needs to block bullets for some reason.

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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    There's also a ton of random stuff too when it comes to portraying Wonder Woman's power levels.

    She's on par with Superman with speed and strength, can get punched through buildings, but needs to block bullets and bombs? And as we see in the movie,
    Amazons die to bullets real good.

    A lot of this is just explained as "it works cause she's magic," and that's fine. But there are odd things about her abilities.
    This is explained? The amazons seemed to just be regular human level, so yeah bullets gonna kill them. Diana is a demi goddess. They even have that scene where one of the amazon is surprised that her cut is already healed.

    She wasn't at her full power for most of the movie. She needed to go super saiyan to unlock it.

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    UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    There's also a ton of random stuff too when it comes to portraying Wonder Woman's power levels.

    She's on par with Superman with speed and strength, can get punched through buildings, but needs to block bullets and bombs? And as we see in the movie,
    Amazons die to bullets real good.

    A lot of this is just explained as "it works cause she's magic," and that's fine. But there are odd things about her abilities.

    Spoiler
    Amazons do, but she's half goddess half Amazon

    Maybe she'd be fine?

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    There's also a ton of random stuff too when it comes to portraying Wonder Woman's power levels.

    She's on par with Superman with speed and strength, can get punched through buildings, but needs to block bullets and bombs? And as we see in the movie,
    Amazons die to bullets real good.

    A lot of this is just explained as "it works cause she's magic," and that's fine. But there are odd things about her abilities.

    Spoiler
    Amazons do, but she's half goddess half Amazon

    Maybe she'd be fine?

    well
    she gets winged by a bullet and it draws blood

    it seems like she is highly resistant to blunt/smashing damage like a pommel to the face or hitting a wall but but susceptible to cutting/piercing damage like a bullet or a gods bad cgi shrapnel sword

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    KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Patty Jenkins on Veld:
    It’s my favorite scene in the movie and it’s the most important scene in the movie. It’s also the scene that made the least sense to other people going in, which is why it’s a wonderful victory for me.

    I think that in superhero movies, they fight other people, they fight villains. So when I started to really hunker in on the significance of No Man’s Land, there were a couple people who were deeply confused, wondering, like, ‘Well, what is she going to do? How many bullets can she fight?’ And I kept saying, ‘It’s not about that. This is a different scene than that. This is a scene about her becoming Wonder Woman.'
    DC is going to learn nothing from this movie

    It's interesting that she's being so honest about that stuff.

    Most directors are more tactful when they talk about the studio and executives.

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    DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Patty Jenkins on Veld:
    It’s my favorite scene in the movie and it’s the most important scene in the movie. It’s also the scene that made the least sense to other people going in, which is why it’s a wonderful victory for me.

    I think that in superhero movies, they fight other people, they fight villains. So when I started to really hunker in on the significance of No Man’s Land, there were a couple people who were deeply confused, wondering, like, ‘Well, what is she going to do? How many bullets can she fight?’ And I kept saying, ‘It’s not about that. This is a different scene than that. This is a scene about her becoming Wonder Woman.'
    DC is going to learn nothing from this movie

    It's interesting that she's being so honest about that stuff.

    Most directors are more tactful when they talk about the studio and executives.

    Patty Jenkins directed Monster. Patty Jenkins gives no fucks about executives' precious sensibilities.

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    BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    Fawst wrote: »
    Fawst wrote: »
    Veldrin wrote: »
    The only two things I remember from the Smallville fight is Hardy fully committing to knife fighting Faora (GOOD), and Clark casually floating over a thrown fuel tanker and letting it just take out yet another building that probably had people inside or nearby (BAD).

    They did a good job of showing Faora getting the upper hand against Superman with superior speed and skill.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNPRUSxEgQ

    Short of The Winter Soldier, I think the fights in Man of Steel were directed, choreographed, and edited better than pretty much anything from the Marvel camp.

    Don't get me wrong, Marvel fights have their moments (Thor waiting to uppercut the Hulk with Mjölnir comes to mind, though I'm struggling to think of any others right now). But a whole scene/sequence? Nothing comes close for me. Snyder has his (many) detractors, but the man can shoot a fight.

    Whereas I found every fight in MoS incredibly boring. I almost fell asleep during the big fight in Metropolis.

    I have to ask, what did you think of the action in Wonder Woman?

    I thought they were good with one really good scene (you know the one). The one at the end was kind of ehhh, but it also wasn't terribly long, so I didn't mind.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The Howling Commandos were so forgettable that Bucky, Bucky, was the most memorable of the lot.

    By the time I saw The Winter Soldier, I'd forgotten that Bucky existed, and had no memory of anything he did past the early parts of the first CA movie.

    The Winter Soldier is the least memorable character in a film called Captain America: The Winter Soldier

    I enjoyed Civil War just fine too because I get that he means a lot to Cap as a character, but in the back of my head I'm just thinking "man, Bucky isn't really worth all this guys"

    Nah, Winter Soldier was a living, breathing, Metal Gear black ops destroyer. And his physicality (there's that word again) was felt every time he showed up. Cap, Falcon and Widow go from dominating to spending each moment trying to stay alive.

    The Winter Soldier had awesome fight choreography and gun battles.

    What you said does not disagree with what Vow said. Bucky may have been shot well, but that doesn't make him interesting.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The Howling Commandos were so forgettable that Bucky, Bucky, was the most memorable of the lot.

    By the time I saw The Winter Soldier, I'd forgotten that Bucky existed, and had no memory of anything he did past the early parts of the first CA movie.

    The Winter Soldier is the least memorable character in a film called Captain America: The Winter Soldier

    I enjoyed Civil War just fine too because I get that he means a lot to Cap as a character, but in the back of my head I'm just thinking "man, Bucky isn't really worth all this guys"

    Nah, Winter Soldier was a living, breathing, Metal Gear black ops destroyer. And his physicality (there's that word again) was felt every time he showed up. Cap, Falcon and Widow go from dominating to spending each moment trying to stay alive.

    The Winter Soldier had awesome fight choreography and gun battles.

    What you said does not disagree with what Vow said. Bucky may have been shot well, but that doesn't make him interesting.

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    I like Bucky more than most people seem to, and even I've got to admit that the most interesting thing about him is seeing how Cap reacts to all of the shit that Bucky tends to get him into.

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    KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Patty Jenkins on Veld:
    It’s my favorite scene in the movie and it’s the most important scene in the movie. It’s also the scene that made the least sense to other people going in, which is why it’s a wonderful victory for me.

    I think that in superhero movies, they fight other people, they fight villains. So when I started to really hunker in on the significance of No Man’s Land, there were a couple people who were deeply confused, wondering, like, ‘Well, what is she going to do? How many bullets can she fight?’ And I kept saying, ‘It’s not about that. This is a different scene than that. This is a scene about her becoming Wonder Woman.'
    DC is going to learn nothing from this movie

    It's interesting that she's being so honest about that stuff.

    Most directors are more tactful when they talk about the studio and executives.

    Patty Jenkins directed Monster. Patty Jenkins gives no fucks about executives' precious sensibilities.

    Those executives are the ones with the money. There are plenty of great and award winning directors who won't badmouth studios and executives. That's a concession many people have to make to be part of the studio system.

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    MalReynoldsMalReynolds The Hunter S Thompson of incredibly mild medicines Registered User regular
    I like Bucky more than most people seem to, and even I've got to admit that the most interesting thing about him is seeing how Cap reacts to all of the shit that Bucky tends to get him into.

    His, "C'mon, man," when Bucky tosses the SWAT person over the balcony and Cap has to catch him was pretty great.

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    There's also a ton of random stuff too when it comes to portraying Wonder Woman's power levels.

    She's on par with Superman with speed and strength, can get punched through buildings, but needs to block bullets and bombs? And as we see in the movie,
    Amazons die to bullets real good.

    A lot of this is just explained as "it works cause she's magic," and that's fine. But there are odd things about her abilities.
    She's weaker in this movie than she is in BvS. She grows more powerful over time over time.

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    DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Patty Jenkins on Veld:
    It’s my favorite scene in the movie and it’s the most important scene in the movie. It’s also the scene that made the least sense to other people going in, which is why it’s a wonderful victory for me.

    I think that in superhero movies, they fight other people, they fight villains. So when I started to really hunker in on the significance of No Man’s Land, there were a couple people who were deeply confused, wondering, like, ‘Well, what is she going to do? How many bullets can she fight?’ And I kept saying, ‘It’s not about that. This is a different scene than that. This is a scene about her becoming Wonder Woman.'
    DC is going to learn nothing from this movie

    It's interesting that she's being so honest about that stuff.

    Most directors are more tactful when they talk about the studio and executives.

    Patty Jenkins directed Monster. Patty Jenkins gives no fucks about executives' precious sensibilities.

    Those executives are the ones with the money. There are plenty of great and award winning directors who won't badmouth studios and executives. That's a concession many people have to make to be part of the studio system.

    Sure. I'm just saying that there's probably multiple reasons she hasn't directed many movies over a long career, and I bet not giving a shit what rich old white men think might be one of them.

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Patty Jenkins on Veld:
    It’s my favorite scene in the movie and it’s the most important scene in the movie. It’s also the scene that made the least sense to other people going in, which is why it’s a wonderful victory for me.

    I think that in superhero movies, they fight other people, they fight villains. So when I started to really hunker in on the significance of No Man’s Land, there were a couple people who were deeply confused, wondering, like, ‘Well, what is she going to do? How many bullets can she fight?’ And I kept saying, ‘It’s not about that. This is a different scene than that. This is a scene about her becoming Wonder Woman.'
    DC is going to learn nothing from this movie

    It's interesting that she's being so honest about that stuff.

    Most directors are more tactful when they talk about the studio and executives.

    Patty Jenkins directed Monster. Patty Jenkins gives no fucks about executives' precious sensibilities.

    Those executives are the ones with the money. There are plenty of great and award winning directors who won't badmouth studios and executives. That's a concession many people have to make to be part of the studio system.

    Sure. I'm just saying that there's probably multiple reasons she hasn't directed many movies over a long career, and I bet not giving a shit what rich old white men think might be one of them.

    There's one reason.

    One.

    She's a woman, and it's Hollywood. Not sucking up to execs doesn't change the fact that an oscar-winning director got called a "Risk" leading up to the release.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    There's also a ton of random stuff too when it comes to portraying Wonder Woman's power levels.

    She's on par with Superman with speed and strength, can get punched through buildings, but needs to block bullets and bombs? And as we see in the movie,
    Amazons die to bullets real good.

    A lot of this is just explained as "it works cause she's magic," and that's fine. But there are odd things about her abilities.
    She's weaker in this movie than she is in BvS. She grows more powerful over time over time.

    Not so much over time as one big increase.

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
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    this movie was so amazing

    really good fight scenes and an awesome script

    more of this for Justice League

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The Howling Commandos were so forgettable that Bucky, Bucky, was the most memorable of the lot.

    By the time I saw The Winter Soldier, I'd forgotten that Bucky existed, and had no memory of anything he did past the early parts of the first CA movie.

    The Winter Soldier is the least memorable character in a film called Captain America: The Winter Soldier

    I enjoyed Civil War just fine too because I get that he means a lot to Cap as a character, but in the back of my head I'm just thinking "man, Bucky isn't really worth all this guys"

    I just kept thinking "Why didn't he just have Bucky wait in the back and block their way until talking to them?

    He's Captain fuckin' America. He's faced scarier things than a SWAT team, before.

    He could talk them into taking him in alive.
    No he couldn't

    He was already considered compromised by UN Officials and they had shoot on sight orders

    Like his options are "hope I can talk these guys down while they are trying to kill my unstable friend" or "run"

    After everything I'd seen of Captain America, I just flat-out do not buy this at all.

    But whatever.

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    manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    I though Gal had great charisma. She had just the right blend of naivety and grit. I was also pleased the whole "Man's world is flawed" thing was handled much better here than in the WW comics I've read. That said, I haven't read some of the arcs that people said were awesome.

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    VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The Howling Commandos were so forgettable that Bucky, Bucky, was the most memorable of the lot.

    By the time I saw The Winter Soldier, I'd forgotten that Bucky existed, and had no memory of anything he did past the early parts of the first CA movie.

    The Winter Soldier is the least memorable character in a film called Captain America: The Winter Soldier

    I enjoyed Civil War just fine too because I get that he means a lot to Cap as a character, but in the back of my head I'm just thinking "man, Bucky isn't really worth all this guys"

    I just kept thinking "Why didn't he just have Bucky wait in the back and block their way until talking to them?

    He's Captain fuckin' America. He's faced scarier things than a SWAT team, before.

    He could talk them into taking him in alive.
    No he couldn't

    He was already considered compromised by UN Officials and they had shoot on sight orders

    Like his options are "hope I can talk these guys down while they are trying to kill my unstable friend" or "run"

    After everything I'd seen of Captain America, I just flat-out do not buy this at all.

    But whatever.

    I don't remember MCU Cap talking down a group of aggressively armed soldiers previously.

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    UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    Don't know if I saw anyone point this out but my memory was jogged when I saw this a second time

    It has what felt like to me to be a huge Superman: The Movie homage

    Spoilers
    The scene where Diana and Steve duck into an alley, Diana stops a bullet, etc.

    The gun even enters the frame from off camera in the same fashion

    Loved it

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    LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    So i saw this last night and it was great

    one of the things i love the most about it was that it really had the patience to let scenes play out and to really let the audiences feel and get wrapped up in the emotions behind them. It's been a nice change from a bunch of movies that i've seen recently that just do the visual equivalent of quickly telling you how a character is feeling and then moving on. So much of this film (barring some weaker bits at the end) just had a really nice emotional arc to them that just let you get so invested.

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    webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    There's also a ton of random stuff too when it comes to portraying Wonder Woman's power levels.

    She's on par with Superman with speed and strength, can get punched through buildings, but needs to block bullets and bombs? And as we see in the movie,
    Amazons die to bullets real good.

    A lot of this is just explained as "it works cause she's magic," and that's fine. But there are odd things about her abilities.
    She's weaker in this movie than she is in BvS. She grows more powerful over time over time.

    Not so much over time as one big increase.

    Spoilers about this quote tree...
    At one point while they are still on the island after the attack, a nurse is taking off the bandage on Diana's arm where she got cut, and the wound is already healed and the nurse makes a kind of surprised/questioning sound about it. Its implied through a lot of dialogue that Diana is SO much more than even the Amazons, and that she has to believe in her power to reach the peak of it.

    In reality she is a demi-god, so I bet she can take a hell of a lot of abuse in combat, she just doesn't realize it.

    General Movie Thoughts... Long story short though My wife and I both loved it.
    The only real gripes I have with the movie would be to cut the slow-mo down by about half. At one point during the town liberation she is fighting in a building and it slows down to show her kicking ass, its speeds up for a second then slows down again as she goes against the next guy. I feel that the first slow motion was all that was required for that scene.

    Ares.

    I really feel that Ares should have been left as metaphor. I actually would really have liked it if Luddendorf and Sir Patrick (as just a normal human dude) were secretly working together to prolong the war. With Sir Patrick agitating for peace and setting it all up for Luddendorf's hammer blow with the chemical warfare. It would have really helped drive home the point that both sides weren't clean in this issue. Have her still kill Luddendorf because she think's he is Ares, then have her realize what is really going on, but by that point she has grown and brings Sir Patrick to justice to face his war crimes, along with Dr. Poison.

    The rest of it though I really liked. Gadot and Pine are great together, and as much as I hate people coming back from the dead in comics, please let them have another chance together somehow.

    I really liked Gadot's portrayal of Diana's naivety at first, but with that being tempered by her ability to not abide, and to keep moving forward regardless of the risk to herself. I think she really sold how insufferable Diana felt about her treatment in London. You could read it on her face "These people are fucking stupid, and goddamn it let go of me".


    Also, how magical has Chris Pine's career in Hollywood been? He has had a mountain of great roles where he has done quite well, in movies big and small. He also seems to have a good sense of humor about himself, which I can respect in an actor/actress. Chris and Gal seem to really get along well on and off camera, and that brings a lot to a movie.

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    FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I guess it's the song from Moana?

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    BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    Correct. It looks like someone needs to watch Moana.

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    FawstFawst The road to awe.Registered User regular
    I totally do!

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    CelloCello Registered User regular
    Guys this movie was great

    My only possible issues were the music wasn't ideal and the CGI towards the end got a bit goofy

    Otherwise oh my goodness

    How did this happen

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Cello wrote: »
    Guys this movie was great

    My only possible issues were the music wasn't ideal and the CGI towards the end got a bit goofy

    Otherwise oh my goodness

    How did this happen

    I credit so much of this movie to Patty Jenkins

    She seems like she could not give less of a shit what the studio had to say

    Any note they had was met with "shut up a second and wait over there while I make an actually good movie instead of what you're asking for"

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    This was a pretty good movie, though I think I had it hyped a little too much in the last week or so and it didn't quite live up because of that. The last part of the movie in particular. And it also just kinda abruptly ended. But all the stuff up until they get to the base I enjoyed quite a bit. And they FINALLY have a character who can be a beacon of hope after fucking up Superman so bad.

    DC is back on track at least, and if somehow Justice League keeps this overall tone it should be fine.

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    webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Think of the clusterfuck justice league would have been if this movie had been bad. Right now WW is the shining star keeping the DCU afloat.

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    GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Just got out of this.

    And boy this is gunna be a classic of the genre isn't it?

    It really is filmed to the brim in iconic shots and moments that I think most superhero movies would kill to have a single one. Also it didn't softball its themes at all. It had actual human and emotional stakes that are absolutely necessary for the backdrop it takes place in. But still maintaining a sense of hope and optimism despite the darker implications around it. That's a hell of a balancing act.

    I feel like my only real complaint with the movie is probably in line with most others. The final set piece felt lackluster in comparison to a lot of the others.
    Basically, CGI Ares was really really bad looking. Like I think the imagery would be much more unique AND thematically potent to keep him looking like David Thewlis in a suit for the entire fight. Changing face of war yadda yadda

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    Rorshach KringleRorshach Kringle that crustache life Registered User regular
    There's also a ton of random stuff too when it comes to portraying Wonder Woman's power levels.

    She's on par with Superman with speed and strength, can get punched through buildings, but needs to block bullets and bombs? And as we see in the movie,
    Amazons die to bullets real good.

    A lot of this is just explained as "it works cause she's magic," and that's fine. But there are odd things about her abilities.

    there is a simple explanation to this
    wonder woman being vulnerable to piercing attacks has always been part of her character -- that's why she has the bracelets.

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