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[Western Animation] RIP Peter Sallis

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    You know, as unimpactful as the show is, the folks behind the Mighty Magiswords really put all of their energy into it given their budget and subject limitations. There's a lot more creativity in it than a lot of higher-end things like Blood of Zeus.

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    Penny Plasm will live forever in fanart.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Penny Plasm will live forever in fanart.

    Geeze you're not kidding.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited March 2021
    Speaking of inappropriate fanart, new Helluva Boss today continues to be very very NSFW and to have the best couple in all of animation.

    Very NSFW

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    AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    You know, as unimpactful as the show is, the folks behind the Mighty Magiswords really put all of their energy into it given their budget and subject limitations. There's a lot more creativity in it than a lot of higher-end things like Blood of Zeus.

    And if you don't like a certain scene, character, fight, plot development, interaction or gag you can wait about 5 seconds and something new happens. I actually liked that show partially because of the manic pacing.

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    Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2021
    Absalon wrote: »
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    You know, as unimpactful as the show is, the folks behind the Mighty Magiswords really put all of their energy into it given their budget and subject limitations. There's a lot more creativity in it than a lot of higher-end things like Blood of Zeus.

    And if you don't like a certain scene, character, fight, plot development, interaction or gag you can wait about 5 seconds and something new happens. I actually liked that show partially because of the manic pacing.

    It was interesting to see that a guy whose DeviantArt page I used to follow got his own show (plus the opening theme was sung by Danny from Game Grumps).

    Also, he (Kyle Carozza) is now a storyboard artist on the new Animaniacs.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Absalon wrote: »
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    You know, as unimpactful as the show is, the folks behind the Mighty Magiswords really put all of their energy into it given their budget and subject limitations. There's a lot more creativity in it than a lot of higher-end things like Blood of Zeus.

    And if you don't like a certain scene, character, fight, plot development, interaction or gag you can wait about 5 seconds and something new happens. I actually liked that show partially because of the manic pacing.

    It was interesting to see that a guy whose DeviantArt page I used to follow got his own show (plus the opening theme was sung by Danny from Game Grumps).

    Also, he (Kyle Carozza) is now a storyboard artist on the new Animaniacs.

    It is genuinely satisfying watching people whose artistic works you enjoy climb up in their careers, especially when you can help out (even if just a tiny bit) and have a teeny tiny affect on the overall cultural landscape as a result.

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    For most of the 00’s, WB wouldn’t allow DC characters to appear in more one show at a time. They have long since abandoned the policy.

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    redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    Pacific Rim: Black seems like an exercise in getting the last few stupid super robot anime tropes and shamelessly craming them into the existing history of the first couple movies.

    I'm sorta wonder if Mei is going to find the rest of the bits of the titular protagonist armor from Iria: Zariem the Animation by the end of the series. They're going with the, middle of the OVA, running out of the house half dressed version, which is alright but kinda silly.

    Just straight up having Eva 01 in the second episode was bold.

    I'm really glad that Boy, the magical boy in a box they find, comes complete with absolutely all of the expected boy in a box anime bullshit, aside being sexualized. That's fucking classy.

    It's a shame they didn't have the extra character models to allow one of the protagonists to be able to take a their jacket off and lend it to Boy for the two and a half episodes he was running around the apocalypse in boxers. But the character designer was probably doing something else by the time they got around to writing that part of episode 3, and honestly, it's fine, would a been huge hassle with all those buckels.

    I was going back and forth on if they were going to kill God by the end if this, but with end of season cliffhanger (and the name of the Jager's AI) I think they're good to go.

    This show us some of the dumbest shit I've seen people do today, outside of the cryptocurrency thread.

    It's a particular kind of fantastic, like 3/5 stars. Would mock again;hoping it gets picked up for a second season. It's not really the sorta show you need to watch to know what's going to happen, but there's some wiggle room and it's comforting as hell in pandemic to know where all the beats are going to be.

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    Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    I got about three episodes in and encountered probably two dozen or more shitty anime tropes. I don't know which was my most-hated: untrained-but-talented teens are suddenly functional pilots of a highly-sophisticated and complex war machine, or "boo hoo, I have so much to deal with now because I was such a dumbass that I directly caused the death of everyone I know because I couldn't be bothered to listen to the fucking jaeger training instructions."

    It's always a bad sign when the first episode has me rooting for the giant monsters to hurry up and eat the main characters just to get the show over with.

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    redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    edited March 2021
    It's a super robot show, of course the orphans with daddy issues are the only ones who can move the stupid robot. That's like being upset that it's drawn on 2s and 3s.

    And they got back in the robot within an episode. By the time she accidentally gets all of Mei's friends killed, they don't even really bat an eye.

    Like, the stupid kids have gotten, like, half the remaining population of Australia killed, in like 4 days, mostly because they suck balls at stealth checks, while other people in tense situations.

    It's like a damned Guy Ritchie movie. It's great.

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    Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    edited March 2021
    Nah. It's something that had a chance to be interesting and good and instead they went with bottom-rung crap. Even worse, it's tedious and boring because it's trying to act like it isn't awful. It's not even campy fun.

    The original She-Ra was just a cartoon to sell toys and it was pretty crappy. The new series is excellent. "It's Genre X" isn't even remotely an excuse for the show to be garbage, especially considering there's no drive for it to exist to just sell toys these days.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Saw Ratatouille again. Still rad.

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    destroyah87destroyah87 They/Them Preferred: She/Her - Please UseRegistered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Saw Ratatouille again. Still rad.

    radatouille.

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    EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    I'm surprised it didn't get the sequel treatment yet, because damn would that be an easy film to name.

    You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Saw Ratatouille again. Still rad.

    radatouille.

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    KarozKaroz Registered User regular

    Here’s the Tuca and Bertie Season 2 sneak peak from today’s Rise event

    Hell yeah, I'm hyped

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Disney is bringing the original Tartakovsky Clone Wars series to Disney+ on April 2.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Disney is bringing the original Tartakovsky Clone Wars series to Disney+ on April 2.

    His work on Clone Wars kind of got a little buried, but it's pretty much Star Wars meets Samurai Jack. If you need convincing, here's Mace Windu fighting a hojillion battle droids. The fight manages to get four times more badass when he loses his lightsaber.

    https://youtu.be/cF3ocZu4cZo

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    ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    edited March 2021
    E: NEVER MIND ME

    I am just blind.

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
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    Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    Whaaaaaat yes.

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    notyanotya Registered User regular
    the trailer doesn't look all that funny, but then the harvey birdman also probably wouldn't look all that good in trailer form either.

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    Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
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    Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    Let me get this straight.

    She has giant awkward metal wings she wears around, but they don't do anything. So she gets around with a grapple gun?

    I'm not criticizing, just clarifying.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Let me get this straight.

    She has giant awkward metal wings she wears around, but they don't do anything. So she gets around with a grapple gun?

    I'm not criticizing, just clarifying.

    Her spine may be crushed but they're amazing for her abs.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    Let me get this straight.

    She has giant awkward metal wings she wears around, but they don't do anything. So she gets around with a grapple gun?

    I'm not criticizing, just clarifying.

    Also: rocket boots.
    Maybe some situations just don't call for the grapple gun?

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    Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    Maybe some situations just don't call for the grapple gun?

    I don't understand this sentence.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Simpsons creator gets interviewed, promptly has feast of foot:
    Matt Groening has told USA Today he is still "proud" of the character, the immigrant owner of the Kwik-E-Mart.

    But he will be absent from Springfield until a suitable new actor is found.

    "We've got plans for Apu, but we have to see if we can make the stories work," said Groening. "We're working on something kind of ambitious. That's all I can say."

    The cartoonist, who brought The Simpsons to screens in 1989, described the "fantastic" character as "one of the most nuanced characters on a silly two-dimensional cartoon show".

    He added that while ending the use of white actors for non-white characters was not his idea, he was "fine with it".

    "Who can be against diversity?" he asked. "So it's great. However, I will just say that the actors were not hired to play specific characters.

    "They were hired to do whatever characters we thought of. To me, the amazing thing is seeing all our brilliant actors who can do multiple voices. That's part of the fun of animation, However, to be more inclusive and hire more people, I'm completely in favour of that."

    Just...how oblivious do you have to be to say that?

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    TryCatcherTryCatcher Registered User regular
    edited March 2021
    There's this thing with characters like Apu or Speedy Gonzales where the complaints mostly come from inmigrants to the US, while the people on India and Mexico are just happy to have positive representation on the big US cultural zeitergeist.
    "I like Apu, in fact I love him. He has a PhD in computer science, but enjoys running his store, he is a valued citizen of Springfield, a ladies man and adores cricket and is funny," Sidharth Bhatia, Mumbai-based founder-editor of The Wire, told me.

    "It reflects true American diversity. The controversy about the stereotyping is classist snobbery - Indians in America don't want to be reminded of a certain kind of immigrant from their country - the shop keepers, the taxi drivers, the burger flippers," says Mr Bhatia.

    "They would rather project only Silicon Valley successes, the Wall Street players and the Ivy League products, with the proper accents, people they meet for dinner - by itself a stereotype. The millions of Apus in America, the salt-of-the-earth types, with their less 'posh' accents, are an inconvenience to that self-image of this small group of Indian-Americans."

    I'm more partial to that point of view, since I'm not from the US and had to immigrate, so have seen that the classism that Bhatia speaks from inmigrants to poorer inmigrants is very real.

    Though local dubbing, which is how people actually got to meet those characters, eliminates the "voiced by a white guy" problem.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    There's this thing with characters like Apu or Speedy Gonzales where the complaints mostly come from inmigrants to the US, while the people on India and Mexico are just happy to have positive representation on the big US cultural zeitergeist.
    "I like Apu, in fact I love him. He has a PhD in computer science, but enjoys running his store, he is a valued citizen of Springfield, a ladies man and adores cricket and is funny," Sidharth Bhatia, Mumbai-based founder-editor of The Wire, told me.

    "It reflects true American diversity. The controversy about the stereotyping is classist snobbery - Indians in America don't want to be reminded of a certain kind of immigrant from their country - the shop keepers, the taxi drivers, the burger flippers," says Mr Bhatia.

    "They would rather project only Silicon Valley successes, the Wall Street players and the Ivy League products, with the proper accents, people they meet for dinner - by itself a stereotype. The millions of Apus in America, the salt-of-the-earth types, with their less 'posh' accents, are an inconvenience to that self-image of this small group of Indian-Americans."

    I'm more partial to that point of view, since I'm not from the US and had to immigrate, so have seen that the classism that Bhatia speaks from inmigrants to poorer inmigrants is very real.

    Though local dubbing, which is how people actually got to meet those characters, eliminates the "voiced by a white guy" problem.

    This is the same sort of argument that was used to try to justify the whitewashing in the Ghost in the Shell remake, and it's just as empty here. Apu is literally based on a stereotype - Hank Azaria has said that the character was built off of him doing a riff on a Peter Sellers caricature - and the whole point of The Problem With Apu was to note how that stereotype did impact Indian-Americans. The problem isn't that Apu runs a convienence store, but that his doing so is done as a gag without understanding why you saw a number of small retail businesses (especially in Southern California) become dominated by minority groups.

    (And yes, Indian classism in the US is a genuine problem, and beyond the remit this thread as well as not really applicable to the issue at hand, given the fact that The Simpsons writers' room has been notoriously white and male, especially early on.)

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    Ivan HungerIvan Hunger Registered User regular
    The Simpsons' writers room is also notoriously college educated and white collar. I think it's a fair take that they might be accidentally contributing to low income erasure, however good their intentions might be.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    I'm surprised it didn't get the sequel treatment yet, because damn would that be an easy film to name.

    I feel like after how long a second Incredibles took Brad Bird just really doesnt like sequels

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    The Mitchells vs. The Machines hits Netflix April 30, and added a bunch to its voice cast:

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Cracked makes a good point - why were comedians making cartoons in the 70s-90s?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH7-unK8SbE

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    Comedians making kids cartoons was the most reasonable decision 90s cartoons made considering their contemporaries were cartoons made from R-Rated movies and LSD fever dreams.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    yeah the 90s were really the wild west for cartoon content

    I also had no idea that Bobby's World was based off Howie Mandell

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    redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    edited March 2021
    yeah the 90s were really the wild west for cartoon content

    I also had no idea that Bobby's World was based off Howie Mandell

    err.. wasn't he live in the cold open? Like, literally talking about how given episodes were based on stuff from his life?

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