It kind of reminded me of a Guy Richie movie tbh. Maybe that's not *really* BG&E to people (I have no opinion one way or the other not having played much of it) but it fit that kind of 'screw a mob boss over' heist, in my mind. Swearing chav chimp included. For all we know that's just a supporting character anyway. Looked like the real star is totally-Jade's-mom there at the end.
I hope it's a placeholder too but honestly... I pre-ordered it anyway. I'm not fooling myself; even at $100, I was going to buy it. It's the #1 game that I'm looking forward to now that Zelda is finished; and it doesn't help that it's been my wife's #1 game since the original trailer back in March. Amazon.ca Prime has 20% E3 games right now too, so I can snag it now at ~$80 before tax. And then hopefully it is a placeholder and the Amazon guarantee will automatically give me the price drop.
Hey, there's an interesting thought. Anyone know what happens to percentage discounts when the price changes? I must imagine the discount amount gets reduced as well to 20% of the new price. Otherwise I'm going to make out like a bandit.
I'm almost certain it's a placeholder, all their announced games are the same (Prime 4, Pokemon Switch, Yoshi, etc...). I think it's to compensate in case the dollar changes again since many of these games won't hit in the next year. I pre-ordered Zelda Wii U at the E3 Bestbuy sale 3 years ago and got it for 30% off the $59 price tag. Which came out to about half price when the dollar fell (I think I paid like $45). I'm pretty sure this is to avoid situations like that.
As for the percentage discount, it reflects the final price of the game (i.e. it won't be locked at $20 off).
I assume the $100 CAD price point is placeholder to dissuade everyone from pre-ordering with the discount. You'll notice it comes out to exactly retail price after the 20% discount. I'll eat my hat if the new price of games jumps to $100 (and possibly take up a life of crime so I can pay for my gaming habit).
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AthenorBattle Hardened OptimistThe Skies of HiigaraRegistered Userregular
Bah. What kind of tournament is this?! You never pair up people who traveled together, if you can avoid it!
Remember when Odysseus entered his hall and threw a hat at the suitors?
Yeah I was totally picturing Mario getting back and having a tearful reunion with Baby Mario and they come up with a plan to have Mario eat an Old Mushroom to turn into Old Mario so nobody would recognize him, and they go up to the mansion to find Peach insisting that one of the Koopa Kids has to be able to accurately complete a fireball-throwing obstacle course, which nobody can do like Mario, and they all laugh at the old man who wants to try, and he does it immediately and they all gasp and he tosses a fire flower to Baby Mario too and they both slaughter everyone there.
Wouldn't a jumping contest be more apropos?
No because it was stringing Odysseus' bow so it has to be something ranged.
What controllers are they using for the Pokken Tourney? One of the guys fighting now had a white controller, I've not seen something like that for Switch yet.
What controllers are they using for the Pokken Tourney? One of the guys fighting now had a white controller, I've not seen something like that for Switch yet.
Possibly this?
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Oh man- To play minecraft on the switch online you sign into XboxLIVE. This is from mojang.....
We live in amazing times.
Chief Wiggum: "Ladies, please. All our founding fathers, astronauts, and World Series heroes have been either drunk or on cocaine."
Hyperbole, but no one can claim Nintendo doesn't iterate the same core franchises in an interesting way. It's the only console where you definitely ask, "What's the Mario this season?"
Yeah they should really make Zelda an open world game.
What do you mean by that anyway? You mean a Mario game is a Mario game? Well, duh. Gears of War is a Gears of War game and Halo 4 and Halo 3 feel the same too. That's not a bad thing, but is funny that Nintendo is the only company that gets flak for that.
He's saying they do incredibly innovative things with the same core franchises, unlike others that might rehash the same IP over and over with little change. It was a positive comment.
I'm also a poor reader. Forgive my snark from before @Darkewolfe
...and now the reason Sony bowed out of Minecraft cross-compatibility is a wee bit clearer. Actually it makes Nintendo's participation a little more amazing.
Wouldn't surprise me if the Switch stuff manages to get played on Microsoft's servers.
Hyperbole, but no one can claim Nintendo doesn't iterate the same core franchises in an interesting way. It's the only console where you definitely ask, "What's the Mario this season?"
Yeah they should really make Zelda an open world game.
What do you mean by that anyway? You mean a Mario game is a Mario game? Well, duh. Gears of War is a Gears of War game and Halo 4 and Halo 3 feel the same too. That's not a bad thing, but is funny that Nintendo is the only company that gets flak for that.
Not saying they're right, but it IS a hell of a lot easier to give Nintendo that flak when they are the longest lived and most successful player in the game.
When is the cutoff in time for it to be a problem? Halo 1 came out in 2001. That's 16 years ago and each Halo game is essentially the same (again, not a bad thing... Though I didn't enjoy Halo 4). Is it protected from flak because Nintendo has been around longer? As soon as Nintendo goes away then it'll be okay to give them shit?
For the record: I don't really care. I just have a friend who makes fun of me for buying the Mario games because "they're all the same" and then nearly died at the footage of Assassin's Creed Origins.
Number of Halo games: like eight across 15 years?
Number of Mario games: more than 100 across 30 years?
Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros 2
Super Mario Bros 3
Super Mario Land
Super Mario Land 2
Super Mario World
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Galaxy 2
New Super Mario Bros
New Super Mario Bros 2
New Super Mario Bros Wii
New Super Mario Bros WiiU
Super Mario 3D Land
Super Mario 3D World
Super Mario Odyssey
100<19???????
This list is disingenuous. Here's a better one. Granted, some of these titles aren't Mario games - nobody's going to argue that a Tetris or NES Baseball release with a Mario cameo is a "Mario game." But I think we can safely say that there have been quite a few more Mario releases than, say, Halo releases.
Edit: I'm not going to count them all right now, but taking an estimate of 16 entries per screen on my laptop, that list comes to about 13 screens. That's 200+ games. Again, not all proper Mario releases. But still.
Hyperbole, but no one can claim Nintendo doesn't iterate the same core franchises in an interesting way. It's the only console where you definitely ask, "What's the Mario this season?"
Yeah they should really make Zelda an open world game.
What do you mean by that anyway? You mean a Mario game is a Mario game? Well, duh. Gears of War is a Gears of War game and Halo 4 and Halo 3 feel the same too. That's not a bad thing, but is funny that Nintendo is the only company that gets flak for that.
Not saying they're right, but it IS a hell of a lot easier to give Nintendo that flak when they are the longest lived and most successful player in the game.
When is the cutoff in time for it to be a problem? Halo 1 came out in 2001. That's 16 years ago and each Halo game is essentially the same (again, not a bad thing... Though I didn't enjoy Halo 4). Is it protected from flak because Nintendo has been around longer? As soon as Nintendo goes away then it'll be okay to give them shit?
For the record: I don't really care. I just have a friend who makes fun of me for buying the Mario games because "they're all the same" and then nearly died at the footage of Assassin's Creed Origins.
Number of Halo games: like eight across 15 years?
Number of Mario games: more than 100 across 30 years?
Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros 2
Super Mario Bros 3
Super Mario Land
Super Mario Land 2
Super Mario World
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Galaxy 2
New Super Mario Bros
New Super Mario Bros 2
New Super Mario Bros Wii
New Super Mario Bros WiiU
Super Mario 3D Land
Super Mario 3D World
Super Mario Odyssey
100<19???????
This list is disingenuous. Here's a better one. Granted, some of these titles aren't Mario games - nobody's going to argue that a Tetris or NES Baseball release with a Mario cameo is a "Mario game." But I think we can safely say that there have been quite a few more Mario releases than, say, Halo releases.
Edit: I'm not going to count them all right now, but taking an estimate of 16 entries per screen on my laptop, that list comes to about 13 screens. That's 200+ games. Again, not all proper Mario releases. But still.
Yeah but if you do that then you also have to count all the Halo Kart games, Flood Football 2K, Super AI Cortana, the Master Chief & Arbiter RPGs etc.
Hyperbole, but no one can claim Nintendo doesn't iterate the same core franchises in an interesting way. It's the only console where you definitely ask, "What's the Mario this season?"
Yeah they should really make Zelda an open world game.
What do you mean by that anyway? You mean a Mario game is a Mario game? Well, duh. Gears of War is a Gears of War game and Halo 4 and Halo 3 feel the same too. That's not a bad thing, but is funny that Nintendo is the only company that gets flak for that.
He's saying they do incredibly innovative things with the same core franchises, unlike others that might rehash the same IP over and over with little change. It was a positive comment.
I'm also a poor reader. Forgive my snark from before @Darkewolfe
To be fair, figgy gave me an extra generous reading. I meant that Nintendo is super creative but also over relies on iterating their core franchises. I'd say most other companies rely on diversity of development. Nintendo knocks it out of the park, but I wish it wasn't always "Mario doing this super new thing."
Hyperbole, but no one can claim Nintendo doesn't iterate the same core franchises in an interesting way. It's the only console where you definitely ask, "What's the Mario this season?"
Yeah they should really make Zelda an open world game.
What do you mean by that anyway? You mean a Mario game is a Mario game? Well, duh. Gears of War is a Gears of War game and Halo 4 and Halo 3 feel the same too. That's not a bad thing, but is funny that Nintendo is the only company that gets flak for that.
Not saying they're right, but it IS a hell of a lot easier to give Nintendo that flak when they are the longest lived and most successful player in the game.
When is the cutoff in time for it to be a problem? Halo 1 came out in 2001. That's 16 years ago and each Halo game is essentially the same (again, not a bad thing... Though I didn't enjoy Halo 4). Is it protected from flak because Nintendo has been around longer? As soon as Nintendo goes away then it'll be okay to give them shit?
For the record: I don't really care. I just have a friend who makes fun of me for buying the Mario games because "they're all the same" and then nearly died at the footage of Assassin's Creed Origins.
Number of Halo games: like eight across 15 years?
Number of Mario games: more than 100 across 30 years?
Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros 2
Super Mario Bros 3
Super Mario Land
Super Mario Land 2
Super Mario World
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Galaxy 2
New Super Mario Bros
New Super Mario Bros 2
New Super Mario Bros Wii
New Super Mario Bros WiiU
Super Mario 3D Land
Super Mario 3D World
Super Mario Odyssey
100<19???????
This list is disingenuous. Here's a better one. Granted, some of these titles aren't Mario games - nobody's going to argue that a Tetris or NES Baseball release with a Mario cameo is a "Mario game." But I think we can safely say that there have been quite a few more Mario releases than, say, Halo releases.
Edit: I'm not going to count them all right now, but taking an estimate of 16 entries per screen on my laptop, that list comes to about 13 screens. That's 200+ games. Again, not all proper Mario releases. But still.
Yeah but if you do that then you also have to count all the Halo Kart games, Flood Football 2K, Super AI Cortana, the Master Chief & Arbiter RPGs etc.
That's still only, like, 20 games. There were only 2 Halo Kart games, Flood Football 2K had a rerelease in 2015 that I guess we can count, Super AI Cortana was Japan-only, and the RPG series was a pen-and-paper game and I kinda feel like that's cheating.
But we should count Mario cereals, the Mario Bros. movie and Super Show, Mario bedsheets, lunchboxes, sneakers, mobile games, and t-shirts.
Anyone familiar with Minecraft know what we'll need to do to have a cross-platform server for my son and friends to play on? We currently pay for a traditional server hosted for the PC version - will we need to switch over to a Realms server to have it work?
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To be fair, nobody is getting BG&E2. At least that's what I told myself after watching that trailer where they screwed up the game title at the end. I'm sure a video editor got fired for that one...right, right?!
That trailer was so awful. #notmybg&e
Glad I'm not the only one. BGE2 seems a lot more like...the 5th Element meets Enslaved. Not a bad combo, mind you. Just, not much like Beyond Good and Evil.
Frankly, the animal people felt a little bit uncomfortable this time. It was better when it was more cartoony.
Hyperbole, but no one can claim Nintendo doesn't iterate the same core franchises in an interesting way. It's the only console where you definitely ask, "What's the Mario this season?"
Yeah they should really make Zelda an open world game.
What do you mean by that anyway? You mean a Mario game is a Mario game? Well, duh. Gears of War is a Gears of War game and Halo 4 and Halo 3 feel the same too. That's not a bad thing, but is funny that Nintendo is the only company that gets flak for that.
Not saying they're right, but it IS a hell of a lot easier to give Nintendo that flak when they are the longest lived and most successful player in the game.
When is the cutoff in time for it to be a problem? Halo 1 came out in 2001. That's 16 years ago and each Halo game is essentially the same (again, not a bad thing... Though I didn't enjoy Halo 4). Is it protected from flak because Nintendo has been around longer? As soon as Nintendo goes away then it'll be okay to give them shit?
For the record: I don't really care. I just have a friend who makes fun of me for buying the Mario games because "they're all the same" and then nearly died at the footage of Assassin's Creed Origins.
Number of Halo games: like eight across 15 years?
Number of Mario games: more than 100 across 30 years?
Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros 2
Super Mario Bros 3
Super Mario Land
Super Mario Land 2
Super Mario World
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Galaxy 2
New Super Mario Bros
New Super Mario Bros 2
New Super Mario Bros Wii
New Super Mario Bros WiiU
Super Mario 3D Land
Super Mario 3D World
Super Mario Odyssey
100<19???????
This list is disingenuous. Here's a better one. Granted, some of these titles aren't Mario games - nobody's going to argue that a Tetris or NES Baseball release with a Mario cameo is a "Mario game." But I think we can safely say that there have been quite a few more Mario releases than, say, Halo releases.
Edit: I'm not going to count them all right now, but taking an estimate of 16 entries per screen on my laptop, that list comes to about 13 screens. That's 200+ games. Again, not all proper Mario releases. But still.
You can't count any game in which Mario shows up as a "Mario game" and then say they do nothing new with Mario games. That is hilariously mutually exclusive.
I thought the trailer was visually impressive but I hated the characters. A lot. So unlikable. And I'm not a prude about cursing (just look at my post history) but the f-bombs felt REALLY out of place.
Maybe a little "hello, fellow kids".
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AthenorBattle Hardened OptimistThe Skies of HiigaraRegistered Userregular
Damn Nintendo really knows how to utilize that Unreal engine. I thought Woolly World was beautiful but this is on a whole new level. I really need this Yoshi game!
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Hyperbole, but no one can claim Nintendo doesn't iterate the same core franchises in an interesting way. It's the only console where you definitely ask, "What's the Mario this season?"
Yeah they should really make Zelda an open world game.
What do you mean by that anyway? You mean a Mario game is a Mario game? Well, duh. Gears of War is a Gears of War game and Halo 4 and Halo 3 feel the same too. That's not a bad thing, but is funny that Nintendo is the only company that gets flak for that.
Not saying they're right, but it IS a hell of a lot easier to give Nintendo that flak when they are the longest lived and most successful player in the game.
When is the cutoff in time for it to be a problem? Halo 1 came out in 2001. That's 16 years ago and each Halo game is essentially the same (again, not a bad thing... Though I didn't enjoy Halo 4). Is it protected from flak because Nintendo has been around longer? As soon as Nintendo goes away then it'll be okay to give them shit?
For the record: I don't really care. I just have a friend who makes fun of me for buying the Mario games because "they're all the same" and then nearly died at the footage of Assassin's Creed Origins.
Number of Halo games: like eight across 15 years?
Number of Mario games: more than 100 across 30 years?
Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros
Super Mario Bros 2
Super Mario Bros 3
Super Mario Land
Super Mario Land 2
Super Mario World
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Galaxy 2
New Super Mario Bros
New Super Mario Bros 2
New Super Mario Bros Wii
New Super Mario Bros WiiU
Super Mario 3D Land
Super Mario 3D World
Super Mario Odyssey
100<19???????
This list is disingenuous. Here's a better one. Granted, some of these titles aren't Mario games - nobody's going to argue that a Tetris or NES Baseball release with a Mario cameo is a "Mario game." But I think we can safely say that there have been quite a few more Mario releases than, say, Halo releases.
Edit: I'm not going to count them all right now, but taking an estimate of 16 entries per screen on my laptop, that list comes to about 13 screens. That's 200+ games. Again, not all proper Mario releases. But still.
You can't count any game in which Mario shows up as a "Mario game" and then say they do nothing new with Mario games. That is hilariously mutually exclusive.
Oh, I didn't say they do nothing new with 'em. And I didn't mean to seem like I was joining in solidarity with that viewpoint. I just wanted to note that there were many more Mario games than the core ones you mentioned.
That'd be an irrelevant point, except that I think people get sick of iterations on multiple Mario "tracks" - not enough differences between the 10 Mario Party games, all of the Kart games, whatever. It just adds up to a lot of Mario, and it's easy to feel like, "Oh, God, here's another Mario game" when there are so many of them. I've been there. I enjoyed New Super Mario Bros., but then five minutes into NSMB2, I was like, "Okay, there are a billion coins now. It seems samey, other than that. Why do I care about this?"
Odyssey looks like something new, at least in my opinion. Like I said, it helps that it's in the style of the tighter 64 & Sunshine and not the removed-camera style of World, etc. Or maybe I'm projecting.
It's probably useful to separate Mario's pure platformers from his other games. But you can't really say that Super Mario RPG or Mario Kart is not a Mario-game without being slapped by me.
Remember when Odysseus entered his hall and threw a hat at the suitors?
Yeah I was totally picturing Mario getting back and having a tearful reunion with Baby Mario and they come up with a plan to have Mario eat an Old Mushroom to turn into Old Mario so nobody would recognize him, and they go up to the mansion to find Peach insisting that one of the Koopa Kids has to be able to accurately complete a fireball-throwing obstacle course, which nobody can do like Mario, and they all laugh at the old man who wants to try, and he does it immediately and they all gasp and he tosses a fire flower to Baby Mario too and they both slaughter everyone there.
Wouldn't a jumping contest be more apropos?
No because it was stringing Odysseus' bow so it has to be something ranged.
I was thinking of it in terms of "Something that only the real Mario can do"; remember that in some Mario games, to prove that you are truly Mario, you gotta demonstrate a jump!
Oh hey, I almost forgot to be outraged about this - I can't believe that Nintendo showed off vr equipment they will have at some arcades, and the driving game they use is Mario Kart and not F-Zero!! Come on Nintendo! This is the perfect place for it!
Oh hey, I almost forgot to be outraged about this - I can't believe that Nintendo showed off vr equipment they will have at some arcades, and the driving game they use is Mario Kart and not F-Zero!! Come on Nintendo! This is the perfect place for it!
Maybe not. F-zero seems far more likely to cause motion sickness.
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I'm almost certain it's a placeholder, all their announced games are the same (Prime 4, Pokemon Switch, Yoshi, etc...). I think it's to compensate in case the dollar changes again since many of these games won't hit in the next year. I pre-ordered Zelda Wii U at the E3 Bestbuy sale 3 years ago and got it for 30% off the $59 price tag. Which came out to about half price when the dollar fell (I think I paid like $45). I'm pretty sure this is to avoid situations like that.
As for the percentage discount, it reflects the final price of the game (i.e. it won't be locked at $20 off).
No because it was stringing Odysseus' bow so it has to be something ranged.
Possibly this?
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I'm also a poor reader. Forgive my snark from before @Darkewolfe
Wait, does this mean you have to pay for Xbox Live??
If so, fuck you Mojang
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Wouldn't surprise me if the Switch stuff manages to get played on Microsoft's servers.
No, it's just for authentication. You do have to play for Minecraft server hosting, though.
this. Like you dont pay for live on PC. Its just an account to link all things together in this case.
This list is disingenuous. Here's a better one. Granted, some of these titles aren't Mario games - nobody's going to argue that a Tetris or NES Baseball release with a Mario cameo is a "Mario game." But I think we can safely say that there have been quite a few more Mario releases than, say, Halo releases.
Edit: I'm not going to count them all right now, but taking an estimate of 16 entries per screen on my laptop, that list comes to about 13 screens. That's 200+ games. Again, not all proper Mario releases. But still.
OK, that's not too bad then.
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Yeah but if you do that then you also have to count all the Halo Kart games, Flood Football 2K, Super AI Cortana, the Master Chief & Arbiter RPGs etc.
To be fair, figgy gave me an extra generous reading. I meant that Nintendo is super creative but also over relies on iterating their core franchises. I'd say most other companies rely on diversity of development. Nintendo knocks it out of the park, but I wish it wasn't always "Mario doing this super new thing."
That's still only, like, 20 games. There were only 2 Halo Kart games, Flood Football 2K had a rerelease in 2015 that I guess we can count, Super AI Cortana was Japan-only, and the RPG series was a pen-and-paper game and I kinda feel like that's cheating.
But we should count Mario cereals, the Mario Bros. movie and Super Show, Mario bedsheets, lunchboxes, sneakers, mobile games, and t-shirts.
Glad I'm not the only one. BGE2 seems a lot more like...the 5th Element meets Enslaved. Not a bad combo, mind you. Just, not much like Beyond Good and Evil.
Frankly, the animal people felt a little bit uncomfortable this time. It was better when it was more cartoony.
You can't count any game in which Mario shows up as a "Mario game" and then say they do nothing new with Mario games. That is hilariously mutually exclusive.
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I was tired of checking physical stores and don't own anything in the bundle so it was a pretty easy call for me.
Also: Is there a consensus on the best screen protector? I read conflicting reports right after release.
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jesus that is 700 cdn
Maybe a little "hello, fellow kids".
It's not just the Yoshis. The game in general is adorable.
And now a prequel
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Oh, I didn't say they do nothing new with 'em. And I didn't mean to seem like I was joining in solidarity with that viewpoint. I just wanted to note that there were many more Mario games than the core ones you mentioned.
That'd be an irrelevant point, except that I think people get sick of iterations on multiple Mario "tracks" - not enough differences between the 10 Mario Party games, all of the Kart games, whatever. It just adds up to a lot of Mario, and it's easy to feel like, "Oh, God, here's another Mario game" when there are so many of them. I've been there. I enjoyed New Super Mario Bros., but then five minutes into NSMB2, I was like, "Okay, there are a billion coins now. It seems samey, other than that. Why do I care about this?"
Odyssey looks like something new, at least in my opinion. Like I said, it helps that it's in the style of the tighter 64 & Sunshine and not the removed-camera style of World, etc. Or maybe I'm projecting.
Maybe not a huge one, but they did end with
Maybe not. F-zero seems far more likely to cause motion sickness.
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