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Nintendo Switch: Rock Around the Dock

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    DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    I wouldn't mind seeing something new from the franchise. I'm keeping my expectations very low.

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    eelektrikeelektrik Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Talith wrote: »
    They saw the Bloodstained crowdfunding numbers and thought "maybe we can still milk this license"? But does Konami even make games anymore?

    Nope, they would rather make slot machines that take 15 minutes to reboot every time the button panel touch screen stops working and the customers can't cash out. Which happens all the damned time.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    eelektrik wrote: »
    Talith wrote: »
    They saw the Bloodstained crowdfunding numbers and thought "maybe we can still milk this license"? But does Konami even make games anymore?

    Nope, they would rather make slot machines that take 15 minutes to reboot every time the button panel touch screen stops working and the customers can't cash out. Which happens all the damned time.

    [/bitter casino employee]

    Yeah, based on what I've seen at the local casinos Konami's machines tend to be on the lower end of the quality scale, which is kind of odd.

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Local wireless play on Switch is via bluetooth?

    This pretty much can't be the case. Bluetooth doesn't have enough bandwidth to do it by itself. It will be some form of Wifi Direct (which is basically ad-hoc wifi). It's possible that Bluetooth is used to establish communication, and then the actual data transfer occurs over a wifi connection. That's actually a standard feature of Bluetooth 4 and higher.

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    ZythonZython Registered User regular
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    People please

    The Super Smash Hit this summer is 100% SteamWorld Dig 2 I am absolutely hyped for that probably even more than I am for spla2n

    Oh shit, that's out this summer?!

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Zython wrote: »
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    People please

    The Super Smash Hit this summer is 100% SteamWorld Dig 2 I am absolutely hyped for that probably even more than I am for spla2n

    Oh shit, that's out this summer?!

    Yep! Trying not to get my hopes up too much for "and it's available right now!" during the E3 presentation.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
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    NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    Hell yes

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    NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    Jun 13?

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    LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    So Axiom Verge. Just looked it up on the Steam page. Metroidvania game. Is it a standout title? Like should I be excited about this coming to the Switch.

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    MolybdenumMolybdenum Registered User regular
    Generally, yeah. It's a solid 8/10 and could be a 7 or a 9+ depending on your tastes.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    So Axiom Verge. Just looked it up on the Steam page. Metroidvania game. Is it a standout title? Like should I be excited about this coming to the Switch.

    It kind of annoyed me because all the environments look similar and annoyed me by having to frequently wander around and wonder what the hell I should be doing now, but it has a lot of fans who appreciate that freedom.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Oooh, I had been waiting to pickup Axiom Verge, heard really good things about it. Switch seems perfect for it.

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    Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Miyamoto on Switch longevity and interactivity with Nintendo's new theme park:
    At one point of the interview, Miyamoto touched on possible Switch interactivity at the park. He joked around by saying that he hopes the system will be even more popular in 2020, and thinks it could have a lifespan of longer than five years. According to Miyamoto, they’re thinking of potential interactivity between Switch and Super Nintendo World, and preparations are already in place for that.

    http://nintendoeverything.com/miyamoto-on-super-nintendo-world-possible-switch-interactivity-non-mario-representation-more/

    Edit:

    Also there's going to be a bunch of Nintendo events across the US over the next few months, if you sign into the event through your my nintendo account you get a my nintendo water bottle.

    Link with tour dates:

    http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/dive-into-the-world-of-nintendo-on-the-2017-summer-of-play-tour

    Edit: apparently they'll also have the 2DSXL to try there.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Honestly, betting any console in this gen has a lifespan longer than five years is a pretty darn safe bet.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Honestly, betting any console in this gen has a lifespan longer than five years is a pretty darn safe bet.

    Do refreshes like Pro count?

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Honestly, betting any console in this gen has a lifespan longer than five years is a pretty darn safe bet.

    Do refreshes like Pro count?

    My personal take is not really, since they play the exact same game. In that light, the weird refreshes are part of the reason I'm guessing this generation will be the longest yet.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Honestly, betting any console in this gen has a lifespan longer than five years is a pretty darn safe bet.

    Do refreshes like Pro count?

    My personal take is not really, since they play the exact same game. In that light, the weird refreshes are part of the reason I'm guessing this generation will be the longest yet.

    I heard a rumor that Scorpio is possibly going to be called the Xbox 10, to fall in line with Windows 10, and their whole philosophy there is to never release another version, just keep updating and refreshing forever from here. So MS is probably willing.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Honestly, betting any console in this gen has a lifespan longer than five years is a pretty darn safe bet.

    Do refreshes like Pro count?

    My personal take is not really, since they play the exact same game. In that light, the weird refreshes are part of the reason I'm guessing this generation will be the longest yet.

    I heard a rumor that Scorpio is possibly going to be called the Xbox 10, to fall in line with Windows 10, and their whole philosophy there is to never release another version, just keep updating and refreshing forever from here. So MS is probably willing.

    That would probably be a smart move assuming they're not stupid enough to do any hard divisions that would divide the market.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    eelektrik wrote: »
    Talith wrote: »
    They saw the Bloodstained crowdfunding numbers and thought "maybe we can still milk this license"? But does Konami even make games anymore?

    Nope, they would rather make slot machines that take 15 minutes to reboot every time the button panel touch screen stops working and the customers can't cash out. Which happens all the damned time.

    [/bitter casino employee]

    Yeah, based on what I've seen at the local casinos Konami's machines tend to be on the lower end of the quality scale, which is kind of odd.

    No given the general incompetence of the people running Konami right now that makes sense

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Honestly, betting any console in this gen has a lifespan longer than five years is a pretty darn safe bet.

    Do refreshes like Pro count?

    My personal take is not really, since they play the exact same game. In that light, the weird refreshes are part of the reason I'm guessing this generation will be the longest yet.

    I heard a rumor that Scorpio is possibly going to be called the Xbox 10, to fall in line with Windows 10, and their whole philosophy there is to never release another version, just keep updating and refreshing forever from here. So MS is probably willing.

    That would probably be a smart move assuming they're not stupid enough to do any hard divisions that would divide the market.

    Name change might not be a good idea though. Consumers are already confused by the weird name schemes on a lot of this stuff, having an Xbox One and an Xbox 10 would be very weird, especially if there's some overlap in what they can run but not a TON of overlap.

    I definitely see a Switch hardware revision happening before 5 years. Probably in two?

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    MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    "You see ma'am, the Xbox 10 plays all the Xbox 1 games because it is 10 times more powerful!" - Totally not confusing customer conversation if the XB10 happens.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Honestly, betting any console in this gen has a lifespan longer than five years is a pretty darn safe bet.

    Do refreshes like Pro count?

    My personal take is not really, since they play the exact same game. In that light, the weird refreshes are part of the reason I'm guessing this generation will be the longest yet.

    I heard a rumor that Scorpio is possibly going to be called the Xbox 10, to fall in line with Windows 10, and their whole philosophy there is to never release another version, just keep updating and refreshing forever from here. So MS is probably willing.

    That would probably be a smart move assuming they're not stupid enough to do any hard divisions that would divide the market.

    Name change might not be a good idea though. Consumers are already confused by the weird name schemes on a lot of this stuff, having an Xbox One and an Xbox 10 would be very weird, especially if there's some overlap in what they can run but not a TON of overlap.

    Eh. The right advertising can make up for almost any name. Compare the XBONE to the WiiU. One of these things managed to convey to the consumer base that it was a new system.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    I definitely see a Switch hardware revision happening before 5 years. Probably in two?

    I think the first hardware revisions will occur in the joycon space, before they look at changing the specs of the Switch itself.

    I guess that's just the controller though. But I feel like we'll see its modular nature taken advantage of before a revision.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Honestly, betting any console in this gen has a lifespan longer than five years is a pretty darn safe bet.

    Do refreshes like Pro count?

    My personal take is not really, since they play the exact same game. In that light, the weird refreshes are part of the reason I'm guessing this generation will be the longest yet.

    I heard a rumor that Scorpio is possibly going to be called the Xbox 10, to fall in line with Windows 10, and their whole philosophy there is to never release another version, just keep updating and refreshing forever from here. So MS is probably willing.

    That would probably be a smart move assuming they're not stupid enough to do any hard divisions that would divide the market.

    Name change might not be a good idea though. Consumers are already confused by the weird name schemes on a lot of this stuff, having an Xbox One and an Xbox 10 would be very weird, especially if there's some overlap in what they can run but not a TON of overlap.

    Eh. The right advertising can make up for almost any name. Compare the XBONE to the WiiU. One of these things managed to convey to the consumer base that it was a new system.

    No real reason to give yourself an unnecessary hill to climb though.

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    GMaster7GMaster7 Goggles Paesano Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    So... I had been hoping before launch that the Switch could be my Nintendo + Indies platform. That's shaping up to work out perfectly - indie games that I skipped on other platforms are slowly being announced for the Switch, and I'm getting really amped up.

    I've been excited for Enter the Gungeon, Stardew Valley, and Celeste, but suddenly I can look forward to Owlboy, Hollow Knight, Axiom Verge, Rime, Sonic Mania, The End is Nigh... if we could get Darkest Dungeon and Devolver's new multiplayer game on here, I'd be all set.

    Edit: Oh, and Flinthook. Gimme.

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    MolybdenumMolybdenum Registered User regular
    Ooooh I keep forgetting about Owlboy.
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    "You see ma'am, the Xbox 10 plays all the Xbox 1 games because it is 10 times more powerful!" - Totally not confusing customer conversation if the XB10 happens.

    There are 10 360 One types of people

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    DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Honestly, betting any console in this gen has a lifespan longer than five years is a pretty darn safe bet.

    Do refreshes like Pro count?

    My personal take is not really, since they play the exact same game. In that light, the weird refreshes are part of the reason I'm guessing this generation will be the longest yet.

    I heard a rumor that Scorpio is possibly going to be called the Xbox 10, to fall in line with Windows 10, and their whole philosophy there is to never release another version, just keep updating and refreshing forever from here. So MS is probably willing.

    That would probably be a smart move assuming they're not stupid enough to do any hard divisions that would divide the market.

    Name change might not be a good idea though. Consumers are already confused by the weird name schemes on a lot of this stuff, having an Xbox One and an Xbox 10 would be very weird, especially if there's some overlap in what they can run but not a TON of overlap.

    Eh. The right advertising can make up for almost any name. Compare the XBONE to the WiiU. One of these things managed to convey to the consumer base that it was a new system.

    Anecdotal, but I remember having to constantly explain to parents that XBox Kinect wasn't a new system (it didn't help that they launched the redesigned 360 alongside it; it looked like a new system). Then the WiiU came out and it felt like I was explaining the opposite to the exact same set of parents.

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    MolybdenumMolybdenum Registered User regular
    I'm not super surprised that things are getting ported, but I'm a little anxious about the way things are shaking out right now with a lot of the same "we'll port to this a few months after the real release or we'll make it a stretch goal" thing that WiiU or Vita have suffered from.

    Hopefully since the devkits are out there now and people are seeing some solid adoption rates (and maybe more influential - high buy rates on the eShop) developers will be aiming for Switch specifically or at least concurrently with other avenues.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    The big problem right now is that, unlike the AAA devs, many indies are so small they simply don't have the manpower to port things over to multiple systems day one. So often it's just PC and one other system. Usually that other system was PS4, since most indies are still annoyed at Microsoft telling them to fuck off at the start of the Xbox One era.

    So what happens now that Switch is looking attractive? Will Switch get day-one releases as indies switch their lead platform, or will the majority be later ports? Will there be a mass migration or on a case-by-case basis? Will indies have to just suck things up and get more resources to go to both?

    Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

    Edit: Now that I think about it, Wii U got a fair number of indies; more than the crap hardware sales would lead you to suspect and much more than the Xbox One for most of its life. So Switch is probably in a good position.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Nintendo has been heavily courting indies for a while now, I'd say it's one of their bigger successes. Like even getting a substantial number of indie titles on 3DS, which is no easy feat for small teams. Not like pushing a couple buttons in Unity.

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    OneAngryPossumOneAngryPossum Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    I really wish there was any chance in hell we were getting that Seiken Densetsu collection, even though it turned out to be bare bones.

    I'd buy it now, but I still need a little guidance for getting through Secret of Mana and I don't want to play with a guide open all the time for SD3.

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    dantreedantree Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Would it be possible to link the new thread before closing the old one? I mean, I had to go through the Games and Technology section to find this. :P

    Kotaku could write a story about this.

    So, I finally broke down and bought a new dock setup. I really like ARMS but I don't want to have to go into the living room all the time and I need the bigger screen for competition. I uh... I've never felt *bad* for buying plastic before but this one is nearly up there.

    I felt the same way, I don't know who should be more ashamed, Nintendo for charging that much, or me for paying that much. The convenience factor was too much to pass up.

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    WaveformWaveform Registered User regular
    I fully expect a Switch refresh in 2-3 years, and guess the upgrades would be something like:

    -Handheld screen now 1080p, with a GPU upgrade to support it
    -Better battery
    -Updated Joycons with all the reliability/range kinks worked out

    If they were really smart (aka if they really want my money) they would sell a "bare" version of the refresh that's JUST the new tablet for $200. I would buy that Day 1.

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Waiting for the "Switch XL" where we get a bigger screen somehow. They keep showing people playing Arms and Mario Kart on the table with it and I just can't do it. I am spoiled.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    I can see them selling just a Switch for like $250 (this is Nintendo, they ain't going to $200 just yet)

    It's a simple SKU that doesn't demand any kind of new stuff for them to make; just different packaging. And if people wanna play it on the TV they'll have to give Nintendo cash for a dock.

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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited June 2017
    Waiting for the "Switch XL" where we get a bigger screen somehow. They keep showing people playing Arms and Mario Kart on the table with it and I just can't do it. I am spoiled.

    Yeah, unless there's a huge breakthrough with battery technology, and XL version is probably the only way you'd get an appreciable increase in battery life. Make it the size of a regular iPad, to the current switch's iPad mini

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    DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    Switch OLED giev to me nao

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    NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    I just realized E3 is next week.

    Wow.

    For something new, I would like a 3rd Azure Striker Gunvolt game, to go along with the Striker Pack port. A legit Pokémon (not Pokken) would be interesting because I've never actually played Pokémon before.

    Beyond that, just more news on Xenoblade 2 and Octopath Traveler.

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