I thought this year was generally disappointing all round and I think MS are in for a tough ride releasing a $500 console when there's a dearth of interesting looking games. Far Cry, Ass Creed, Gears, Forza etc it's the same old same old. Even Sony's show felt kind of lacking although I'm all for a remake of SotC
Aside from brief mention during the 4k updates part, along with several other games, there was no Gears at the press conference.
Shit man the new Spider-Man actually looks really good. I know that was a demo deal but if the real thing is a quarter as free flowing as that I'm sold.
I'm glad about that, I knew it had to be but crazier decisions have been made in the past.
So now I might not get Skyrim for Switch if I'm just going to be playing it again in VR down the road. Or maybe I won't be able to resist anyway, we'll see...I guess truth be told I probably won't want to play the whole game in VR and would treat it more like a sightseeing curiosity.
I was really hoping this Sony E3 would have expanded on the PlayStation Now stuff. As a primarily PC gamer I was really excited when I heard they were putting PS4 games on the service. Even if it means I have to wait like a year for for something like Horizon at least I don't have to drop 500 local currency for a Playstation just to play the two or three PlayStation games I'm interested in. Hopefully they'll talk more about what games are going up and how often in one of their later trade shows.
It may not old school MH but World does look really fun to me.
What are the key differences we're looking at here? Clips looked very much MH. And thank god I can use live for playing MH.
Reading up a key change will be its seamless loading, should make fights different! And really that's not so much a "not a real MH" and more" Nice to see the series evolving.
Agreed. People act like the areas being connected by loading screens is a good thing, when it's literally just a hanger-on from the PS2 days where they had to do that to make the game work. It's really sad that the series has languished for so long people are flipping out at the idea of outdated things being swept away.
Well, the main advantages are that:
A) You don't have to model or make people walk the entirety of connections between areas Diving over the border to get safe time to heal
In opposition to general opinion in this thread, I'm super hyped for the PSVR games and loved their inclusion. It's nice to see Sony properly promoting it and taking it out, even to a secondary stage, might dim that focus.
Now if only I could get a bloody Aim controller and Farpoint in the UK!
I wish I was at E3 to see if there is a playable demo of MonHun World (not likely). A friend on FB is so pro-Nintendo, that he's believing the "leak" from NeoGaf or 4chan or whatever that the game will be entirely QTE and stealth gameplay.
Like, what? No? That trailer has a stealthy moment or two, sure, but I don't think you can do the jumps and attacks as QTE? Maybe the one QTE looking thing is when the guy riding the dino has a slow-mo moment and knocks down the tree.
In opposition to general opinion in this thread, I'm super hyped for the PSVR games and loved their inclusion. It's nice to see Sony properly promoting it and taking it out, even to a secondary stage, might dim that focus.
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I wish I was at E3 to see if there is a playable demo of MonHun World (not likely). A friend on FB is so pro-Nintendo, that he's believing the "leak" from NeoGaf or 4chan or whatever that the game will be entirely QTE and stealth gameplay.
Like, what? No? That trailer has a stealthy moment or two, sure, but I don't think you can do the jumps and attacks as QTE? Maybe the one QTE looking thing is when the guy riding the dino has a slow-mo moment and knocks down the tree.
You don't have to be pro-Nintendo to believe it, but your friend is reading into it too much.
Leak doesn't need scare quotes around it, it's pretty apparent that there was foreknowledge there. The leak was October 2016, we find out classic handheld-style Monster Hunter was coming to Switch June 9 2017 and that console shakeup Monster Hunter on everything BUT Switch was coming yesterday. It's too spot-on in those respects.
But it doesn't say it's entirely QTE and stealth, just that those elements are present as part of the westernization.
It'll still be MH It just may be more action focused than MH players are used to. This is both good and bad.
I think part of the reluctance in this is that MH players are worried that all of the people who have spent 10 years ragging on them for liking the things they like (all the systems in MH. Take your pick.) got what they wanted. Which great.
It better just not mean we also don't get what we like too in a more traditional sequel.
I mean if you're ragging on MH or thinking it needs to change imagine a bunch of people telling you your favorite game is not good and you should want it to be different in the way they like games.
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Yeah, it's basically that those of us that like the whole "slow, deliberate gameplay that rewards preparation" thing in their action games don't really get that many games outside of MonHun and Dark Souls (and honestly DS3 kinda broke that anyway), so people are a bit twitchy.
But I expect it'll be fine. And hey, MonHun on PC meanss a lot of people who never get to play it will be able to try it now, so we'll get a lot of new hunters, which is always a plus.
I'm on board to try MonHun properly myself. My only experience with it is on the 3DS, where I wasn't a fan of the small field of view provided by the screen. It can work for some people, but it's not for me. So sign me up for a bigger, shinier MonHun experience.
The reason I say my "friend" is pro-Nintendo, is he's using the leak from NeoGaf as his platform to say that they've removed or reduced the gathering and item collection from the game. If they do that, then they've removed a core element of what makes MonHun what it is, and therefore, you're not getting the true MonHun experience, like what MonHun5 on the Switch will inevitably deliver.
I just, how... the trailer showed nothing because there wasn't much to show. And there is a gathering node in the first 10 seconds of the trailer. You wouldn't show item collecting in a trailer anyway because that's boring, and the game isn't even out yet so how can anyone say anything is or isn't present!
I'll never understand people who say these conferences sucked. Every single one showed multiple games that I am very interested in playing.
It depends on what you like. For me:
Shooters bore the crap out of me.
I'm tired of, and not interested in, post-apocalyptic anything, especially if it's zombies.
Outside of Sid Meier's Pirates! I'm not intro them. I specifically felt that Ubisoft's approach in Black Flag was boring and repetitive.
I'm not an online gamer, so all this co-op/competitive gameplay is a turn off.
I don't do horror.
So, yeah... There's not a lot for a gamer like me.
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I'll never understand people who say these conferences sucked. Every single one showed multiple games that I am very interested in playing.
It depends on what you like. For me:
Shooters bore the crap out of me.
I'm tired of, and not interested in, post-apocalyptic anything, especially if it's zombies.
Outside of Sid Meier's Pirates! I'm not intro them. I specifically felt that Ubisoft's approach in Black Flag was boring and repetitive.
I'm not an online gamer, so all this co-op/competitive gameplay is a turn off.
I don't do horror.
So, yeah... There's not a lot for a gamer like me.
So basically you like single player Fantasy RPGs...?
It took a night's sleep but my seething anger about 'Beyond Good and Evil 2' has passed. It has been replaced by a hollow feeling of loss and betrayal.
I honestly think that one part of Ubisoft was making a different game and that another part, probably the marketing part, decided that the best use for a popular if niche property would be its god damn name and nothing else.
Ancel said prior to the press conference that Beyond Good and Evil 2 would not be making an appearance. He didn't lie.
We have literally no idea how this will play really. I think its too early to decry its not a true monster hunter.
Somebody somewhere posted a clip and said it was a better look at some regular melee-combat, and nnnnot really? I saw what looked like the mounting-mechanic, which involves hitting the monster a bit, and that was all.
I'm not sure they've shown any normal standing attack with a non-gun, period.
I'll never understand people who say these conferences sucked. Every single one showed multiple games that I am very interested in playing.
It depends on what you like. For me:
Shooters bore the crap out of me.
I'm tired of, and not interested in, post-apocalyptic anything, especially if it's zombies.
Outside of Sid Meier's Pirates! I'm not intro them. I specifically felt that Ubisoft's approach in Black Flag was boring and repetitive.
I'm not an online gamer, so all this co-op/competitive gameplay is a turn off.
I don't do horror.
So, yeah... There's not a lot for a gamer like me.
So basically you like single player Fantasy RPGs...?
No, I like 3rd person action games, well made open world games, thoughtful 1st person games (Deus Ex, Dishonored), puzzle games, platformers, certain sports games, yes, RPGs.... I like plenty of things, but a lot of the stuff people go crazy for isn't my cup of tea, and unfortunately for me, it's becoming an ever larger swath of gaming, slowly pushing what I like out.
And even with my list, I can't get hyped for things that aren't actually new like yet another Madden or AssCreed game.
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I'll never understand people who say these conferences sucked. Every single one showed multiple games that I am very interested in playing.
It depends on what you like. For me:
Shooters bore the crap out of me.
I'm tired of, and not interested in, post-apocalyptic anything, especially if it's zombies.
Outside of Sid Meier's Pirates! I'm not intro them. I specifically felt that Ubisoft's approach in Black Flag was boring and repetitive.
I'm not an online gamer, so all this co-op/competitive gameplay is a turn off.
I don't do horror.
So, yeah... There's not a lot for a gamer like me.
So basically you like single player Fantasy RPGs...?
Come on, there were loads of genres and styles not represented strongly this E3.
No futuristic Wipeout-style racers, no vehicular combat games. No GTA or Red Dead. No Kingdom Hearts other than the little pre-show trailer. No Hitman sequel following off their success with the formula in the latest iteration. No Final Fantasy Tactics (SRPG, distinct from a normal JRPG). No KotOR, no new Elder Scrolls or Fallout. Or Deus Ex. No simulation games, overhead view city management type stuff. God games. Actually not a lot of endless roguelike procedurally generated stuff, if that's your bag.
That's just random shotgun approach on stuff that was missing. There are tons more.
God the only thing I really don't like about Days Gone is the whole stealth, throw items, QTE combat stuff. I love the setting so very much.
Sony's E3 was fine for me. God of War looked great. Monster Hunter (even though it's coming to PC/XB1) looked great. Shadow of the Colossus. And that Detroit game is looking good.
WSJ is reporting that the Xbox One X won't support any kind of VR at all. Article is behind a paywall I guess.
I imagine that's a miscommunication, and there's no VR support right now.
Late, but Microsoft's thing is AR. They're swinging into that hard. No idea if it'll come to Xbox, but right now it's looking so expensive and professional-grade I wouldn't bet on it. Microsoft themselves aren't doing any VR stuff, so if VR comes to Xbox it'll probably be third-party.
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@MNC Dover Well you can tell your friend that you know a guy who isn't big into VR, and wasn't interested in any of the VR they showed, until Quill showed up and I said, "an adorable mouse with a backpack?! Sold!"
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@MNC Dover My wife was watching Sony's conference with me and Quill was the thing that got her the most excited by far. She used to do 3D animation and she was going nuts over the character's animations, particularly the expressiveness of his tail and ears. Also she was undergoing cute overload and so was I because HE'S AN ADVENTURE MOUSE WITH A LITTLE BACKPACK OH MY GOD LOOK AT HIS LITTLE BACKPACK
So, Microsoft and Sony's conference were hugely different from one another.
Microsoft had loads and loads of new stuff, including a platoon of indies, but very little that was exclusive. Well, exclusive to Xbox and PC, at any rate. I'm not counting all the timed exclusives. (And holy shit, timed exclusives are back with a vengeance.)
Sony showed much fewer games, including very few indies (was Undertale the only non-VR thing?). Most of it was exclusive, but very few of them were new.
Honestly both of them were slightly disappointing to me, though there's good stuff that showed well in both of them.
Very curious to see what Nintendo's going to do. They've already announced a bunch of Pokemon stuff and let Ubi handle Mario + Rabbids, so will we have room for a parade of surprises or will it mostly be Mario Odyssey?
@MNC Dover My wife was watching Sony's conference with me and Quill was the thing that got her the most excited by far. She used to do 3D animation and she was going nuts over the character's animations, particularly the expressiveness of his tail and ears. Also she was undergoing cute overload and so was I because HE'S AN ADVENTURE MOUSE WITH A LITTLE BACKPACK OH MY GOD LOOK AT HIS LITTLE BACKPACK
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Aside from brief mention during the 4k updates part, along with several other games, there was no Gears at the press conference.
Read.
https://gamerant.com/skyrim-vr-playstation-vr-timed-exclusive/
I'm glad about that, I knew it had to be but crazier decisions have been made in the past.
So now I might not get Skyrim for Switch if I'm just going to be playing it again in VR down the road. Or maybe I won't be able to resist anyway, we'll see...I guess truth be told I probably won't want to play the whole game in VR and would treat it more like a sightseeing curiosity.
Well, the main advantages are that:
A) You don't have to model or make people walk the entirety of connections between areas
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Like, what? No? That trailer has a stealthy moment or two, sure, but I don't think you can do the jumps and attacks as QTE? Maybe the one QTE looking thing is when the guy riding the dino has a slow-mo moment and knocks down the tree.
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You don't have to be pro-Nintendo to believe it, but your friend is reading into it too much.
Leak doesn't need scare quotes around it, it's pretty apparent that there was foreknowledge there. The leak was October 2016, we find out classic handheld-style Monster Hunter was coming to Switch June 9 2017 and that console shakeup Monster Hunter on everything BUT Switch was coming yesterday. It's too spot-on in those respects.
But it doesn't say it's entirely QTE and stealth, just that those elements are present as part of the westernization.
I think part of the reluctance in this is that MH players are worried that all of the people who have spent 10 years ragging on them for liking the things they like (all the systems in MH. Take your pick.) got what they wanted. Which great.
It better just not mean we also don't get what we like too in a more traditional sequel.
I mean if you're ragging on MH or thinking it needs to change imagine a bunch of people telling you your favorite game is not good and you should want it to be different in the way they like games.
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But I expect it'll be fine. And hey, MonHun on PC meanss a lot of people who never get to play it will be able to try it now, so we'll get a lot of new hunters, which is always a plus.
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The reason I say my "friend" is pro-Nintendo, is he's using the leak from NeoGaf as his platform to say that they've removed or reduced the gathering and item collection from the game. If they do that, then they've removed a core element of what makes MonHun what it is, and therefore, you're not getting the true MonHun experience, like what MonHun5 on the Switch will inevitably deliver.
I just, how... the trailer showed nothing because there wasn't much to show. And there is a gathering node in the first 10 seconds of the trailer. You wouldn't show item collecting in a trailer anyway because that's boring, and the game isn't even out yet so how can anyone say anything is or isn't present!
Guys like him frustrate me. :P
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You have no idea how happy that makes me. It better come out in the US. The G.U. games were some of my absolute favorite PS2 RPGs.
It depends on what you like. For me:
Shooters bore the crap out of me.
I'm tired of, and not interested in, post-apocalyptic anything, especially if it's zombies.
Outside of Sid Meier's Pirates! I'm not intro them. I specifically felt that Ubisoft's approach in Black Flag was boring and repetitive.
I'm not an online gamer, so all this co-op/competitive gameplay is a turn off.
I don't do horror.
So, yeah... There's not a lot for a gamer like me.
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So basically you like single player Fantasy RPGs...?
Seriously? Different people have different tastes, man. There, 100% understandable now.
Oh cool.
I never played the GU ones but I heard they were better than the regular ones.
I honestly think that one part of Ubisoft was making a different game and that another part, probably the marketing part, decided that the best use for a popular if niche property would be its god damn name and nothing else.
Ancel said prior to the press conference that Beyond Good and Evil 2 would not be making an appearance. He didn't lie.
Somebody somewhere posted a clip and said it was a better look at some regular melee-combat, and nnnnot really? I saw what looked like the mounting-mechanic, which involves hitting the monster a bit, and that was all.
I'm not sure they've shown any normal standing attack with a non-gun, period.
This gives me hope though (Capcom Community Manager):
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No, I like 3rd person action games, well made open world games, thoughtful 1st person games (Deus Ex, Dishonored), puzzle games, platformers, certain sports games, yes, RPGs.... I like plenty of things, but a lot of the stuff people go crazy for isn't my cup of tea, and unfortunately for me, it's becoming an ever larger swath of gaming, slowly pushing what I like out.
And even with my list, I can't get hyped for things that aren't actually new like yet another Madden or AssCreed game.
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Fuck the U.S.! You had your turn.
Come on, there were loads of genres and styles not represented strongly this E3.
No futuristic Wipeout-style racers, no vehicular combat games. No GTA or Red Dead. No Kingdom Hearts other than the little pre-show trailer. No Hitman sequel following off their success with the formula in the latest iteration. No Final Fantasy Tactics (SRPG, distinct from a normal JRPG). No KotOR, no new Elder Scrolls or Fallout. Or Deus Ex. No simulation games, overhead view city management type stuff. God games. Actually not a lot of endless roguelike procedurally generated stuff, if that's your bag.
That's just random shotgun approach on stuff that was missing. There are tons more.
MonHun kind of has regenerating health, after a fashion.
Sony's E3 was fine for me. God of War looked great. Monster Hunter (even though it's coming to PC/XB1) looked great. Shadow of the Colossus. And that Detroit game is looking good.
Late, but Microsoft's thing is AR. They're swinging into that hard. No idea if it'll come to Xbox, but right now it's looking so expensive and professional-grade I wouldn't bet on it. Microsoft themselves aren't doing any VR stuff, so if VR comes to Xbox it'll probably be third-party.
More Ni No Kuni 2 e3 stuff.
This looks real cool.
Microsoft had loads and loads of new stuff, including a platoon of indies, but very little that was exclusive. Well, exclusive to Xbox and PC, at any rate. I'm not counting all the timed exclusives. (And holy shit, timed exclusives are back with a vengeance.)
Sony showed much fewer games, including very few indies (was Undertale the only non-VR thing?). Most of it was exclusive, but very few of them were new.
Honestly both of them were slightly disappointing to me, though there's good stuff that showed well in both of them.
Very curious to see what Nintendo's going to do. They've already announced a bunch of Pokemon stuff and let Ubi handle Mario + Rabbids, so will we have room for a parade of surprises or will it mostly be Mario Odyssey?
This is a little off topic of E3 because it came out almost a year ago but you should totally show this to your wife, it's not even VR either.