Anyone know if Algeon is cheesable? (like a 100% evade/resist setup with a single character that works)? Large sword mastery and that fist would be nice on 2B.
If you can grab a 2B friend you can try to cheese it with the bugged Spear attack that randomly does 1 damage or OHKOs all machine monsters before they fix it. Other than that, cheese doesn't really work for Aigaion since most of his attacks are magical attacks that do physical damage, so you need super high magic dodge.
Edit: Beaten!
details please? Do i just go in with just her in my party and have her use the spear attack, or do i need to pod first?
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Anyone know if Algeon is cheesable? (like a 100% evade/resist setup with a single character that works)? Large sword mastery and that fist would be nice on 2B.
If you can grab a 2B friend you can try to cheese it with the bugged Spear attack that randomly does 1 damage or OHKOs all machine monsters before they fix it. Other than that, cheese doesn't really work for Aigaion since most of his attacks are magical attacks that do physical damage, so you need super high magic dodge.
Edit: Beaten!
details please? Do i just go in with just her in my party and have her use the spear attack, or do i need to pod first?
So the bug is kinda random, people think it may have to do with using an older (32bit) OS rather than a new (64bit). Here is a video of it in action: https://youtu.be/jDtxIKkFT_s
So, I've been doing some research, and I figured out I could probably do the 2B bug using my old Nexus 7 (2012 model). I sort of want to try it, but I'm afraid of getting banned. How likely is this?
There's always a risk when taking advantage of bugs/exploits. I personally wouldn't risk it especially since now they have outright named the bug in an in-game announcement. I can't speak for how likely getting banned or otherwise punished for using the bug is.
Yeah I tried and got the 1 damage result on my phone and Nox. Figured once I get her to 100, I may try the trial with a friend 2B. I'm just scared off by the 4 hour time frame.
With dual-2Bs you may be able to do the brute force method. You'll need a way to deal with the KO punch (either 100% provoke or a unit with higher ATK than either 2B). Brute force is really tough, but much faster. I think my successful attempt took 30-40min? Not quite sure.
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I was thiiiinking I might be able to brute force it with my two 2B, Tidus for Entrust and MP Regen and dispeling when needed, Rikku, King pretty much purely to feed Rikku crystals, and then like... a friend Tilith or something
Or level up my Luka and use a friend 2B I guess, which would require less gear on my part, but that's the basic gist of my idea
I'm wondering about the current value of various TMRs that were once strong. How useful are the following in the current state of the game? Are any worth farming multiples?
Alma's Lordly Robe
Elle's Arsha's Talisman
Freya's Angel Earings
Kefka's Ribbon
Leo's Aegis Shield
Locke's Rising Sun
Miyuki's Sakurafubuki
Also, what do people make of 210's Mechanical Heart?
Hmm.. a second pair of Earrings gives a bigger MAG boost than Icy Veins.. I thought straight +MAG items had their bonuses increased by one of Fryevias passives or L&A? Guess I was mistaken.
801 Mag! Woo!
I also have a few free friend slots again.. I apparently tossed out 1 more friend request to PA folks than I had free friend slots last week, oops. 523,503,285
I'm wondering about the current value of various TMRs that were once strong. How useful are the following in the current state of the game? Are any worth farming multiples?
Alma's Lordly Robe
Elle's Arsha's Talisman
Freya's Angel Earings
Kefka's Ribbon
Leo's Aegis Shield
Locke's Rising Sun
Miyuki's Sakurafubuki
Also, what do people make of 210's Mechanical Heart?
Alma's robe is outclassed by Siren's Robe which you can get from a trial.
Arsha's Talisman is still really good for tanks/supports.
Angel Earrings are super not worth it.
Ribbon is great for content where you need immunity.
Aegis shield is still decent if you don't have Wilhelm's shield. There are others shields you can get easier that are comparable or better, however.
Rising Sun is good for...CoD or Setzer, if they're you only damage dealers. Otherwise not great.
Sakurafubuki is outclassed by Genji Blade from the Gilagamesh's trial, Cruel Oath from the current raid, and is only marginally better than Purple Lightning from Lasswell's trial. Super not worth grinding out.
I'm wondering about the current value of various TMRs that were once strong. How useful are the following in the current state of the game? Are any worth farming multiples?
Alma's Lordly Robe
Elle's Arsha's Talisman
Freya's Angel Earings
Kefka's Ribbon
Leo's Aegis Shield
Locke's Rising Sun
Miyuki's Sakurafubuki
Also, what do people make of 210's Mechanical Heart?
The Siren Robe, which you get for free in the Dark Esper trial, is better than Lordly Robe. I wouldn't bother farming another. Arsha's Talisman is great. I wouldn't bother with Angel Earrings. Ribbon is great. Aegis Shield hasn't been a priority for me, but it's an option. Sakurafubuki, you get two better Katanas for free (Genji Blade and Cruel Oath). One of them in this event (so get it while you still can) and one of them in an early trial. A third katana, Purple Lightning, is also free and is only 6 atk less. As for Rising Sun, Horizon Breaker is better and is also from a 3 star. No Bird Killer, though. Throwing Weapons don't have a mastery, though, so unless one does something special (like Fixed Dice) there's no reason to farm one.
Hmm.. a second pair of Earrings gives a bigger MAG boost than Icy Veins.. I thought straight +MAG items had their bonuses increased by one of Fryevias passives or L&A? Guess I was mistaken.
801 Mag! Woo!
I also have a few free friend slots again.. I apparently tossed out 1 more friend request to PA folks than I had free friend slots last week, oops. 523,503,285
Did you just buy one? Because you'll get a free 20% mag accessory on Friday and it has more def and spr. Only a few points more, but still.
I'm wondering about the current value of various TMRs that were once strong. How useful are the following in the current state of the game? Are any worth farming multiples?
Alma's Lordly Robe -- 4th best robe. Competes with Vestment of Mind, in my opinion.
Elle's Arsha's Talisman -- Great. 20% HP on an accessory slot is always handy and the def/spr buff is nice.
Freya's Angel Earings -- Don't farm. The only thing here is dark resist.
Kefka's Ribbon -- Great if you're up against ailments. Competes with Discernment and Tilith's TMR.
Leo's Aegis Shield -- Competes with Genji Shield. Petrify is more common than instant-death, but is it worth a TMR?
Locke's Rising Sun -- Pass
Miyuki's Sakurafubuki -- Pass, especially if you're getting the event Katana. The Genji Blade (trial) is better, and Lasswell's Katana is only slightly worse. Unless you need to fill up a team of katana wielders.
Also, what do people make of 210's Mechanical Heart?
It's great. Simply better than 15% HP, since it's also got the 15% SPR boost, and what it does is the same as Noctis's Damage Warp. If you're hit, there's a chance you heal yourself for about 750hp. That said, don't farm it until the raid is done. I've pulled 4 moogles for it so it's likely you'll end up with almost a full one without too much effort.
Hmm.. a second pair of Earrings gives a bigger MAG boost than Icy Veins.. I thought straight +MAG items had their bonuses increased by one of Fryevias passives or L&A? Guess I was mistaken.
801 Mag! Woo!
I also have a few free friend slots again.. I apparently tossed out 1 more friend request to PA folks than I had free friend slots last week, oops. 523,503,285
Did you just buy one? Because you'll get a free 20% mag accessory on Friday and it has more def and spr. Only a few points more, but still.
Nah, I bought 2 a while back, one for Fryevia and one for Trance Terra.. but Terra has been off my main team for a while, so I just swapped her earring over to Fryevia.
Current lineup is Reberta, Refia, Minfilia, Warrior of Light, Fryevia. They seem to get the job done.
Especially with a Fryevia friend.
With dual-2Bs you may be able to do the brute force method. You'll need a way to deal with the KO punch (either 100% provoke or a unit with higher ATK than either 2B). Brute force is really tough, but much faster. I think my successful attempt took 30-40min? Not quite sure.
I could use either WoL with his 100% provoke or WKN with 80% Provoke with damage mitigation.
With dual-2Bs you may be able to do the brute force method. You'll need a way to deal with the KO punch (either 100% provoke or a unit with higher ATK than either 2B). Brute force is really tough, but much faster. I think my successful attempt took 30-40min? Not quite sure.
I could use either WoL with his 100% provoke or WKN with 80% Provoke with damage mitigation.
Oh shit, I forgot you had WKN. WKN can actually survive the KO punch if equipped properly (I'd have to look up the build that can do it, I know someone on Reddit did the calculations back when the trial first came out...), so he would probably be the way to go.
There's something up with the damage type or the mitigation type or something, because WKN's built in mitigation (bring it on, steel, etc) doesn't work on the punch like it should have.
Well, Reactive Defense should stack with his innate damage reduction from The Light is With Us (if it doesn't then yeah, it's a wasted slot). It won't stack with other external sources of DR and I'd rather run anyone else over Rikku if I don't need her for her LB cheese.
Hmm.. a second pair of Earrings gives a bigger MAG boost than Icy Veins.. I thought straight +MAG items had their bonuses increased by one of Fryevias passives or L&A? Guess I was mistaken.
801 Mag! Woo!
I also have a few free friend slots again.. I apparently tossed out 1 more friend request to PA folks than I had free friend slots last week, oops. 523,503,285
It depends on if the boost is to the base MAG of the unit or if it factors in equipment MAG. Like Olives passives boost her equipment, so flat +atk is going to generally be much better than +atk% boosts.
Oh I'd also like to know about if that stacks or not. My WoL has Reactive Defense on for lack of some better TMRs I havent grinded out yet
Edit: On a separate note, I've had WAY more expeditions fail this week than in the entirety of the time these have been a feature. I think they broke something trying to change it. Now they're starting to feel like a waste of money dollars.
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One Cruel intentions - GET. Now i need to TM farm more of my chizus, especially with Virtuous contact on the way.
I also made my katana today. I'm in a weird position where literally none of my damage dealers want katanas. Or greatswords for that matter. I mean, I have plenty of options for gearing Agrias once her enhancements hit I guess.
Hmm.. a second pair of Earrings gives a bigger MAG boost than Icy Veins.. I thought straight +MAG items had their bonuses increased by one of Fryevias passives or L&A? Guess I was mistaken.
801 Mag! Woo!
I also have a few free friend slots again.. I apparently tossed out 1 more friend request to PA folks than I had free friend slots last week, oops. 523,503,285
It depends on if the boost is to the base MAG of the unit or if it factors in equipment MAG. Like Olives passives boost her equipment, so flat +atk is going to generally be much better than +atk% boosts.
Fryevia only boosts equipment stats when she's single-wielding. I didn't even know she could do that, because who in their right mind would single-wield Fryevia?
I did that with the Mog King raid. I maxed out Lakshmi with nothing but regular magicites. And I still have a ton of them. I think I'll be set on Esper leveling for a long time.
There's something up with the damage type or the mitigation type or something, because WKN's built in mitigation (bring it on, steel, etc) doesn't work on the punch like it should have.
hmmm looking it up, WKN would need 4 of Rasler's TMR's and other TMR equipment to survive even if mitigation was working. Feel's like this trial was made with Fryevia in mind. Crazy damage, but with it being hybrid you can bring an auto-raiser to take the insta-KO since her damage won't be the highest.
Hmm.. a second pair of Earrings gives a bigger MAG boost than Icy Veins.. I thought straight +MAG items had their bonuses increased by one of Fryevias passives or L&A? Guess I was mistaken.
801 Mag! Woo!
I also have a few free friend slots again.. I apparently tossed out 1 more friend request to PA folks than I had free friend slots last week, oops. 523,503,285
It depends on if the boost is to the base MAG of the unit or if it factors in equipment MAG. Like Olives passives boost her equipment, so flat +atk is going to generally be much better than +atk% boosts.
Fryevia only boosts equipment stats when she's single-wielding. I didn't even know she could do that, because who in their right mind would single-wield Fryevia?
Well Doublehand would probably fall into that category...its close in damage i understand, but the chaining potential is lower, so its probably just to let people benefit without having to farm a DW.
Hmm.. a second pair of Earrings gives a bigger MAG boost than Icy Veins.. I thought straight +MAG items had their bonuses increased by one of Fryevias passives or L&A? Guess I was mistaken.
801 Mag! Woo!
I also have a few free friend slots again.. I apparently tossed out 1 more friend request to PA folks than I had free friend slots last week, oops. 523,503,285
It depends on if the boost is to the base MAG of the unit or if it factors in equipment MAG. Like Olives passives boost her equipment, so flat +atk is going to generally be much better than +atk% boosts.
Fryevia only boosts equipment stats when she's single-wielding. I didn't even know she could do that, because who in their right mind would single-wield Fryevia?
Well Doublehand would probably fall into that category...its close in damage i understand, but the chaining potential is lower, so its probably just to let people benefit without having to farm a DW.
You can also build Fryevia as a DH finisher with Second Intention. And, since it's non-elemental, you can give her whatever element sword you want to match Imperils. She has a lot of variety of builds that are viable.
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details please? Do i just go in with just her in my party and have her use the spear attack, or do i need to pod first?
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So the bug is kinda random, people think it may have to do with using an older (32bit) OS rather than a new (64bit). Here is a video of it in action:
That said, I'm hoping that with a little more gearing up and leveling I'll have enough to do it the normal way
Have to fiddle with it though since nearly every guide assumes you'll have Maxwell and Tilith
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Or level up my Luka and use a friend 2B I guess, which would require less gear on my part, but that's the basic gist of my idea
Also, what do people make of 210's Mechanical Heart?
801 Mag! Woo!
I also have a few free friend slots again.. I apparently tossed out 1 more friend request to PA folks than I had free friend slots last week, oops. 523,503,285
Alma's robe is outclassed by Siren's Robe which you can get from a trial.
Arsha's Talisman is still really good for tanks/supports.
Angel Earrings are super not worth it.
Ribbon is great for content where you need immunity.
Aegis shield is still decent if you don't have Wilhelm's shield. There are others shields you can get easier that are comparable or better, however.
Rising Sun is good for...CoD or Setzer, if they're you only damage dealers. Otherwise not great.
Sakurafubuki is outclassed by Genji Blade from the Gilagamesh's trial, Cruel Oath from the current raid, and is only marginally better than Purple Lightning from Lasswell's trial. Super not worth grinding out.
The Siren Robe, which you get for free in the Dark Esper trial, is better than Lordly Robe. I wouldn't bother farming another. Arsha's Talisman is great. I wouldn't bother with Angel Earrings. Ribbon is great. Aegis Shield hasn't been a priority for me, but it's an option. Sakurafubuki, you get two better Katanas for free (Genji Blade and Cruel Oath). One of them in this event (so get it while you still can) and one of them in an early trial. A third katana, Purple Lightning, is also free and is only 6 atk less. As for Rising Sun, Horizon Breaker is better and is also from a 3 star. No Bird Killer, though. Throwing Weapons don't have a mastery, though, so unless one does something special (like Fixed Dice) there's no reason to farm one.
Did you just buy one? Because you'll get a free 20% mag accessory on Friday and it has more def and spr. Only a few points more, but still.
It's great. Simply better than 15% HP, since it's also got the 15% SPR boost, and what it does is the same as Noctis's Damage Warp. If you're hit, there's a chance you heal yourself for about 750hp. That said, don't farm it until the raid is done. I've pulled 4 moogles for it so it's likely you'll end up with almost a full one without too much effort.
Nah, I bought 2 a while back, one for Fryevia and one for Trance Terra.. but Terra has been off my main team for a while, so I just swapped her earring over to Fryevia.
Current lineup is Reberta, Refia, Minfilia, Warrior of Light, Fryevia. They seem to get the job done.
Especially with a Fryevia friend.
I could use either WoL with his 100% provoke or WKN with 80% Provoke with damage mitigation.
Oh shit, I forgot you had WKN. WKN can actually survive the KO punch if equipped properly (I'd have to look up the build that can do it, I know someone on Reddit did the calculations back when the trial first came out...), so he would probably be the way to go.
Light with Us > Tank all the damage > immediately heal to full
Sorry Engels ELT, you just went from RNG may wipe me to laughably simple.
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Ooo, I didn't think of that. Paired with Reactive Defense he becomes a self-contained machine. Neat.
It depends on if the boost is to the base MAG of the unit or if it factors in equipment MAG. Like Olives passives boost her equipment, so flat +atk is going to generally be much better than +atk% boosts.
Edit: On a separate note, I've had WAY more expeditions fail this week than in the entirety of the time these have been a feature. I think they broke something trying to change it. Now they're starting to feel like a waste of money dollars.
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I also made my katana today. I'm in a weird position where literally none of my damage dealers want katanas. Or greatswords for that matter. I mean, I have plenty of options for gearing Agrias once her enhancements hit I guess.
Fryevia only boosts equipment stats when she's single-wielding. I didn't even know she could do that, because who in their right mind would single-wield Fryevia?
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hmmm looking it up, WKN would need 4 of Rasler's TMR's and other TMR equipment to survive even if mitigation was working. Feel's like this trial was made with Fryevia in mind. Crazy damage, but with it being hybrid you can bring an auto-raiser to take the insta-KO since her damage won't be the highest.
Well Doublehand would probably fall into that category...its close in damage i understand, but the chaining potential is lower, so its probably just to let people benefit without having to farm a DW.
You can also build Fryevia as a DH finisher with Second Intention. And, since it's non-elemental, you can give her whatever element sword you want to match Imperils. She has a lot of variety of builds that are viable.