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So what are the cool kids playing? (MMORPGs)

DuffDuff Registered User regular
edited May 2007 in Games and Technology
Haven't played video games in awhile now, and with summer looming and nothing else to do I'm thinking of picking up a MMO (RPG). I've searched other sites, but with little luck, since I'm not sure of how to search for MMO's on game rating websites.


So what would you guys say are the top MMOs out right now? Other than WOW obviously. The newer the better, hopefully, so I won't be too far behind.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Vanguard is on its way... it's slow as fuck though. I bought a computer that runs Obvlivion at 60 FPS on Ultra High and Vangaurd get's less than 30 on out of the box settings.

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    DuskTwilightDuskTwilight Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Lord of the Rings Online just came out. It's pretty good though not without its flaws. If you like classic Tolkien fantasy then you'll probably like this one. It is also VERY pretty, and runs quite well without top-end computing equipment.

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    SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Guild Wars Nightfall's pretty damn fun, and only has the box cost (ie no monthly fee).

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    DuffDuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Are those well populated? I've had bad experiences with PSO's where the population has dwindled very quickly.

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I'll second LotRO... awesomesauce. It has fewer classes than most games, but I feel like it makes each class that much more useful. The story is fantastic, with lots of quests, and an overarching "epic" series of quests. You can grind out quests, or you can mix things up a bit and work on deeds. Consider them mini quests... kill lots of a mob, do quests in a certain area, explore areas, etc. Nets you new skills, traits [perma-buffs], and new titles (like Spider-Foe, or Watcher of Roads... they show up after your character name when people look at you). The game is well worth the cost of admission so far.

    For bonus "win," go to Tom Bombadil's house and listen to the music. Once you hear it, you'll hang out there for a good hour or so. I'm rather pissed that the song wasn't included in the soundtrack disc.

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    DuffDuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    LotRO sounds great, I'm guessing the online community is good? Not sure what to expect from MMORPG's since the only ones I've played have been the PSO ones.

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    DuskTwilightDuskTwilight Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Duff wrote: »
    Are those well populated? I've had bad experiences with PSO's where the population has dwindled very quickly.

    I haven't heard good about Vanguard but LotRO and I assume Guild Wars is well populated, though Guild Wars is not an MMORPG. It's more like Diablo 2 that's PVP focused and replaces the chat rooms with town areas.

    To answer your question about the community, in LotRO it seemed pretty good though I wasn't so involved. It has a lot of solo-oriented gameplay so it hampers the community some but I think the origin of the content will attract a more mature crowd than WoW does.

    If you want a more community focused game you should look into more group-oriented games such as Final Fantasy 11, though that is a game not for the beginner or impatient.

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    DuffDuff Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Thanks for the suggestions, I'm looking for something like FF11 where theres a lot of emphasis on group play and community, the only problem is the fact that FF11 has been out for such a long time, I don't want to have problems trying to catch up.

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    DuskTwilightDuskTwilight Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Duff wrote: »
    Thanks for the suggestions, I'm looking for something like FF11 where theres a lot of emphasis on group play and community, the only problem is the fact that FF11 has been out for such a long time, I don't want to have problems trying to catch up.

    The good thing about FF11 is that it doesn't have the same kind of end-game stagnation that other games do because you are able to play all the classes you want on the same character without penalty. The game actually encourages levelling up multiple classes, as you actually use two at once after you unlock the ability at level 18.

    So don't worry about catching up so much as worry about going too fast. Slow and steady wins the race in FF11.

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    claxtonclaxton ClubPA regular
    edited April 2007
    Eve online in the penny arcade corp Merch Industrial.

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    Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Dark Age of Camelot or DAoC is great if you are looking for shit loads of end game. The PvP system is also rated to be one of the best. I remember going out with my guildies and just having a blast, even though we didn't always win, it was still fun as all hell.

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    DuskTwilightDuskTwilight Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    claxton wrote: »
    Eve online in the penny arcade corp Merch Industrial.

    EVE is good and all but it's a little borizzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzzz...

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    polaris314polaris314 Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I'm considering stacking LotRO on top of WoW, as I'm pretty much playing WoW at the casual level at the moment (I was/still am in a raiding guild but became rather inactive after we cleared BWL). I tried the LotRO stress-test, and was overall pretty impressed, but couldn't get into it enough to get very far. I'm hoping the retail version will hook me a bit more. As it stands though, so far none of the WoW players I know are "jumping ship" just yet.

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    WallhitterWallhitter Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Play CoH. It's one of the few ones that A) allows you to have a character that looks nothing like everyone else's, B) doesn't rely off of true "loot" to make your character good, even with Inventions around the bend, C) doesn't have a bland fantasy setting, D) is really good for casual gameplay, and F) has a relatively low amount of assholes.

    Seriously, just play it. I mean, what would you rather start out as? Some dude in a hair shirt with a wooden sword, or a giant robot skeleton that throws fireballs and punches dudes?

    EDIT: Not to mention that the death penalty won't make you pull your hair out, and if you aggro more than like 2 mobs, you aren't going to die. As a matter of fact, you can fight a lot of enemies.

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    GarthorGarthor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    wallhitter wrote: »
    Play CoH. It's one of the few ones that A) allows you to have a character that looks nothing like everyone else's, B) doesn't rely off of true "loot" to make your character good, even with Inventions around the bend, C) doesn't have a bland fantasy setting, D) is really good for casual gameplay, and F) has a relatively low amount of assholes.

    Seriously, just play it. I mean, what would you rather start out as? Some dude in a hair shirt with a wooden sword, or a giant robot skeleton that throws fireballs and punches dudes?

    EDIT: Not to mention that the death penalty won't make you pull your hair out, and if you aggro more than like 2 mobs, you aren't going to die. As a matter of fact, you can fight a lot of enemies.

    On the flip side, the game is about as deep as the kiddy pool.

    Including pee.

    Basically, you punch mans. Then you punch mans. Then you punch mans. Then you punch mans.

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    leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    For a second time in a row I forgot to cancel my eve subscription, so now it looks like it's going to be late may I'm going to take a break, and do the unthinkable.

    I'm going to try WoW.

    For a little a month at a time or so, I have some long-term skills to set in eve, and a few more ships to blow up before going inactive.

    I should try playing Pirates of the Burning Sea again, when I tried the beta I was fairly unimpressed. Looks pretty as hell, but has a boredom level to match. If you played Sid Miers Pirates, get ready for more of the same (atleast in regards to when you travel from place to place, which is a lot of it)

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    DuffDuff Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I find it surprising that so many different games have been mentioned, I ws expecting there to be a top 3 or so.

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    AccualtAccualt Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Garthor wrote: »
    wallhitter wrote: »
    Play CoH. It's one of the few ones that A) allows you to have a character that looks nothing like everyone else's, B) doesn't rely off of true "loot" to make your character good, even with Inventions around the bend, C) doesn't have a bland fantasy setting, D) is really good for casual gameplay, and F) has a relatively low amount of assholes.

    Seriously, just play it. I mean, what would you rather start out as? Some dude in a hair shirt with a wooden sword, or a giant robot skeleton that throws fireballs and punches dudes?

    EDIT: Not to mention that the death penalty won't make you pull your hair out, and if you aggro more than like 2 mobs, you aren't going to die. As a matter of fact, you can fight a lot of enemies.

    On the flip side, the game is about as deep as the kiddy pool.

    Including pee.

    Basically, you punch mans. Then you punch mans. Then you punch mans. Then you punch mans.

    Please explain what other MMOs do that CoH doesn't? Crafting doesn't count, as of tomorrow, since the Invention system is being introduced with i9.

    I hear people always bitch that all you can do in CoH is fight but I've played a shit ton of MMOs and you know what...all I ever do is fight. I might craft if I can't find a group to go questing with or I might try and sell some loot I just got if I can't find a group to team with. Other than those two things, which CoX now has, what else is there to do in an MMO? You quest, and in the process fight stuff, to level. It is the nature of the beast.

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Accualt wrote: »
    Garthor wrote: »
    wallhitter wrote: »
    Play CoH. It's one of the few ones that A) allows you to have a character that looks nothing like everyone else's, B) doesn't rely off of true "loot" to make your character good, even with Inventions around the bend, C) doesn't have a bland fantasy setting, D) is really good for casual gameplay, and F) has a relatively low amount of assholes.

    Seriously, just play it. I mean, what would you rather start out as? Some dude in a hair shirt with a wooden sword, or a giant robot skeleton that throws fireballs and punches dudes?

    EDIT: Not to mention that the death penalty won't make you pull your hair out, and if you aggro more than like 2 mobs, you aren't going to die. As a matter of fact, you can fight a lot of enemies.

    On the flip side, the game is about as deep as the kiddy pool.

    Including pee.

    Basically, you punch mans. Then you punch mans. Then you punch mans. Then you punch mans.

    Please explain what other MMOs do that CoH doesn't? Crafting doesn't count, as of tomorrow, since the Invention system is being introduced with i9.

    I hear people always bitch that all you can do in CoH is fight but I've played a shit ton of MMOs and you know what...all I ever do is fight. I might craft if I can't find a group to go questing with or I might try and sell some loot I just got if I can't find a group to team with. Other than those two things, which CoX now has, what else is there to do in an MMO? You quest, and in the process fight stuff, to level. It is the nature of the beast.

    To be honest, I don't know what I had against CoV/H. The combat just didn't feel right, compared other MMOs. I loved that I could get to the top of a building, and knock mobs off... the fact that for once, fall damage actually effected my enemies. Awesome.

    The rest of it, though? Truthfully, I can't describe it. It just felt... off. Though to be honest, if I could have just the CoH/CoV character creator, I'd be pretty happy.

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    PatboyXPatboyX Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I liked CoH as well. For the above-stated reasons. And even the shelf-life of it makes me happy. I don't really want to playing something like this all the time. A very casual MMORP.

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    Masked_MulletMasked_Mullet Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    OKay, i just downloaded the free version thingy for anarchy online, anything good about this game?

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    FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I've got to throw in another vote for CoH. It is great.

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    OKay, i just downloaded the free version thingy for anarchy online, anything good about this game?

    I used to love AO. Quite frankly, I don't think there is a better free MMO out there, and it's still better than some of the pay ones. Do get ready for grinding, though... to get to the big "questlines," you really need to pay for Shadowlands. That's ok though.. if you don't mind playing a bit here and there, you could easily hit level 100 in a couple months. Even 150-160 is attainable... 200 is a bit out there, without hardcore playing.

    That said... it's a fun game, with awesome class combos. Very different classes than a lot of games... the Martial Artist who beats the shit out of things and heals allies. The Adventurer who is a master of dual-wielding, healing, and morphing. Your two different pet classes in the Meta-Physicist (more "psychological" of the two, with pets embodying anger, hatred, etc), and the Engineer (awesome looking robots). You can get jets and fly around, which is good, because the world is god damned huge.

    All in all, I'd definitely reccomend giving it a try. Especially for that magical price.

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    GarthorGarthor Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Accualt wrote: »
    Garthor wrote: »
    wallhitter wrote: »
    Play CoH. It's one of the few ones that A) allows you to have a character that looks nothing like everyone else's, B) doesn't rely off of true "loot" to make your character good, even with Inventions around the bend, C) doesn't have a bland fantasy setting, D) is really good for casual gameplay, and F) has a relatively low amount of assholes.

    Seriously, just play it. I mean, what would you rather start out as? Some dude in a hair shirt with a wooden sword, or a giant robot skeleton that throws fireballs and punches dudes?

    EDIT: Not to mention that the death penalty won't make you pull your hair out, and if you aggro more than like 2 mobs, you aren't going to die. As a matter of fact, you can fight a lot of enemies.

    On the flip side, the game is about as deep as the kiddy pool.

    Including pee.

    Basically, you punch mans. Then you punch mans. Then you punch mans. Then you punch mans.

    Please explain what other MMOs do that CoH doesn't? Crafting doesn't count, as of tomorrow, since the Invention system is being introduced with i9.

    I hear people always bitch that all you can do in CoH is fight but I've played a shit ton of MMOs and you know what...all I ever do is fight. I might craft if I can't find a group to go questing with or I might try and sell some loot I just got if I can't find a group to team with. Other than those two things, which CoX now has, what else is there to do in an MMO? You quest, and in the process fight stuff, to level. It is the nature of the beast.

    To be honest, I don't know what I had against CoV/H. The combat just didn't feel right, compared other MMOs. I loved that I could get to the top of a building, and knock mobs off... the fact that for once, fall damage actually effected my enemies. Awesome.

    The rest of it, though? Truthfully, I can't describe it. It just felt... off. Though to be honest, if I could have just the CoH/CoV character creator, I'd be pretty happy.

    Probably the fact that it didn't even attempt to hide the utter lack of variety. Missions always were along the same lines: kill guy X because he's evil/good. The missions always took place in the same, bland, randomly generated warehouse / office building / sewer. The combat - as much of it as I played - was pretty straightforward: spamming the same few buttons until the other guys die. It was just... generic.

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    JoahWJoahW Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
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    Masked_MulletMasked_Mullet Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    OKay, i just downloaded the free version thingy for anarchy online, anything good about this game?

    I used to love AO. Quite frankly, I don't think there is a better free MMO out there, and it's still better than some of the pay ones. Do get ready for grinding, though... to get to the big "questlines," you really need to pay for Shadowlands. That's ok though.. if you don't mind playing a bit here and there, you could easily hit level 100 in a couple months. Even 150-160 is attainable... 200 is a bit out there, without hardcore playing.

    That said... it's a fun game, with awesome class combos. Very different classes than a lot of games... the Martial Artist who beats the shit out of things and heals allies. The Adventurer who is a master of dual-wielding, healing, and morphing. Your two different pet classes in the Meta-Physicist (more "psychological" of the two, with pets embodying anger, hatred, etc), and the Engineer (awesome looking robots). You can get jets and fly around, which is good, because the world is god damned huge.

    All in all, I'd definitely reccomend giving it a try. Especially for that magical price.

    awesome dude thanks very much

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    RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Progress quest. Big learning curve, but very immersive.

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    DuskTwilightDuskTwilight Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    You know I tried AO just the other night, and even with MUCH higher specs than what is recomended I still got terrible framerates. That and the WAY difficult interface turned me away. I swear the game ran better back in beta on my 450mhz P2 and Voodoo3.

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    HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    OKay, i just downloaded the free version thingy for anarchy online, anything good about this game?

    Yeah, the good thing is you can delete it.

    WoW is obviously a winner here, to an extent. I am getting pretty bored with it though.

    CoX looks very promising, but I still need a trial key from someone, I'll end up paying for a month of it for sure, but I want to figure out where i'm going with it.

    Vanguard is a MACHINE EATER. But I hear good things about it if you're into hardcore MMO.

    I havn't tried LoTRO yet - I hear good things.

    Waiting for Warhammer.

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    You know I tried AO just the other night, and even with MUCH higher specs than what is recomended I still got terrible framerates. That and the WAY difficult interface turned me away. I swear the game ran better back in beta on my 450mhz P2 and Voodoo3.

    The new interface is complete ass, but I think there's a way to use the old interface still. As for the framerates, I don't know what to tell you... the game ran absolutely great, at resolutions/detail levels I could only dream about on more current MMOs.

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    DuskTwilightDuskTwilight Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    You know I tried AO just the other night, and even with MUCH higher specs than what is recomended I still got terrible framerates. That and the WAY difficult interface turned me away. I swear the game ran better back in beta on my 450mhz P2 and Voodoo3.

    The new interface is complete ass, but I think there's a way to use the old interface still. As for the framerates, I don't know what to tell you... the game ran absolutely great, at resolutions/detail levels I could only dream about on more current MMOs.

    Weird. I can run LotRO at mostly high with a good framerate but running even medium on AO makes it run about 15fps. I didn't even bother to get past the newb isle because of it.

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    WallhitterWallhitter Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Garthor wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Accualt wrote: »
    Garthor wrote: »
    wallhitter wrote: »
    Play CoH. It's one of the few ones that A) allows you to have a character that looks nothing like everyone else's, B) doesn't rely off of true "loot" to make your character good, even with Inventions around the bend, C) doesn't have a bland fantasy setting, D) is really good for casual gameplay, and F) has a relatively low amount of assholes.

    Seriously, just play it. I mean, what would you rather start out as? Some dude in a hair shirt with a wooden sword, or a giant robot skeleton that throws fireballs and punches dudes?

    EDIT: Not to mention that the death penalty won't make you pull your hair out, and if you aggro more than like 2 mobs, you aren't going to die. As a matter of fact, you can fight a lot of enemies.

    On the flip side, the game is about as deep as the kiddy pool.

    Including pee.

    Basically, you punch mans. Then you punch mans. Then you punch mans. Then you punch mans.

    Please explain what other MMOs do that CoH doesn't? Crafting doesn't count, as of tomorrow, since the Invention system is being introduced with i9.

    I hear people always bitch that all you can do in CoH is fight but I've played a shit ton of MMOs and you know what...all I ever do is fight. I might craft if I can't find a group to go questing with or I might try and sell some loot I just got if I can't find a group to team with. Other than those two things, which CoX now has, what else is there to do in an MMO? You quest, and in the process fight stuff, to level. It is the nature of the beast.

    To be honest, I don't know what I had against CoV/H. The combat just didn't feel right, compared other MMOs. I loved that I could get to the top of a building, and knock mobs off... the fact that for once, fall damage actually effected my enemies. Awesome.

    The rest of it, though? Truthfully, I can't describe it. It just felt... off. Though to be honest, if I could have just the CoH/CoV character creator, I'd be pretty happy.

    Probably the fact that it didn't even attempt to hide the utter lack of variety. Missions always were along the same lines: kill guy X because he's evil/good. The missions always took place in the same, bland, randomly generated warehouse / office building / sewer. The combat - as much of it as I played - was pretty straightforward: spamming the same few buttons until the other guys die. It was just... generic.
    And other MMO's combat is different how? It's the same button spam, OR just sit back and watch your dude hack at a guy.

    And I don't see much of a difference between CoH and other mmos' missions. I mean, they're all like "OKAY GO REALLY FAR AND TALK TO THIS GUY NOW OK KILL SOME DUDES AND COLLECT SOME THINGS FROM THEM AND I'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING SHINY OK HAHA"

    And...erm, I hate to say it, but CoH has a far better playerbase than WoW. I mean, the UNOFFICIAL roleplaying server actually has more roleplaying going on than WoW's official ones. And, okay, like any MMO, it has its jerk-assed players. But they're less common, and less jerky than WoW's jerks. No offense man.

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    HorsecalledwarHorsecalledwar Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Oo - can't believe no one mention Dungeons & Dragons Online - Stormreach

    has a free trial and tons of new content. Sure it uses instancing but goddam take it from a DIEHARD longtime Camelot player - sometimes you just want to get on with gaming and not TRAVEL your ass off for an hour just to get somewhere -

    the game has built in email, and microphone use so your party of up to 6 players can talk to each other - also has guild - forming - and auction house etc... etc...

    the graphics are outstanding, dungeons are narrarated by voice over Dungeon Masters -

    Also, the guild / quest system is fantastic. you can put a flag on that tells people you are looking for a group - and you can also see parties that are in need of more players and join in - I cannot tell what a relief that is. that means I can log in see what groups need what join in or start my own --

    they also have solo quests so you can get your feet wet.

    there are a number of servers but the busiest one is Aggro typically about 600-700 players on any given time.

    the thing about DDO I perhaps like the best is that i rarely run into people who "speak elvish" -- in Camelot and Eve online I ran into some people that just expected everyone to know every single thing about all 10 expansions - and over the 2 years i played camelot i eventually learned a great, great deal about the game - but i find that with DDO - you have a much broader mix of people - yes some are former die hard pen and paper gamers, but there are others who just enjoy loggin on for an hour or two and kickin some ass -- fwiw

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited May 2007
    I think that in some respects CoH's user-friendliness works against it. It's no less deep than any other MMO, but the ease of getting around and things like not having to spawn-camp means that the underlying mechanics are laid more bare than they are in a game where you spend half an hour walking through pretty fields to get to the Cave Of Killing Five Guys.

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    leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    6-700 doesn't strike me as terribly many, that's less people than on Ragnarok Onlines test server (atleast when I played, and that was going downhill)

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    MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Vanguard is on its way...

    On its way out, maybe.

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    DuskTwilightDuskTwilight Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Vanguard is on its way...

    On its way out, maybe.

    "So the bottom line is that SOE is going to be getting more involved with Sigil and Vanguard"

    This just has bad news written all over it.

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    BlueDestinyBlueDestiny Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I always wonder what happened to AutoAssault. The game was a blast to play, almost like vigilante 8 or twisted metal in MMO form.

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    JWFokkerJWFokker Registered User regular
    edited May 2007

    Waiting for Warhammer.

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    SageinaRageSageinaRage Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Everything I read about Vanguard sounded interesting to me, I hope it doesn't die off before I have time to give it a chance.

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