But surely despite the clear connection to the theme of God of War Sony must have realised how people would have seen the story.
Sony uses a dead goat that a butcher killed mercifully in publicity stunt for violent video game God of War.
Well, sure, but I think Sony deserves a bit of credit for sticking to their guns, regardless of the spin shitty journalists would add.
They didn't do it for negative publicity, they did it because it was a Greek event promoting God of War. Nothing more, nothing less. Hell, if they only had a Kratos impersonator, the story would say something to the regards of:
"Sony promotes God of War with erotic, big chested half-naked men: Gay gaming on the rise?"
How/where the hell do you return a decapitated goat carcass full of soup?
My understanding is that some butchers will make animal food from meat, not just stuff for humans. I imagine that after they were done with it, it got used for dog chow.
So the only change is that the goat wasn't full of offal?
Yes.
Because the goat was filled with soup, and not offal, this is now obviously nothing to be upset over.
Oh wait except the part where they were still serving food out of a goat whose head had been removed
Well I wouldn't want my soup dispenser looking back at me.
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What do they mean by it was returned anyway? Somebody ate the goat later? After its been sitting for several hours in the open air?
How do you return a dead goat. Meat goes bad pretty quickly. Probably dog food I guess.
It's still lolol marketeers either way. Like musketeers, but all for money and stupid for all.
I assumed they meant it was returned for disposal. You're right, nothing about the goat would be edible. (Not that I'd personall consider many parts of a goat edible even under the best circumstances.) Maybe there's some market for the hooves, horns, or whatever.
I mean, after all, the butcher did have a dead (and decapitated) goat handy for some reason, right? (Though actually, it's a valid question whether Sony asked for the goat to be decapitated; you'd think the butcher wouldn't otherwise do that.)
Also: So many simple unanswered questions! Journalists all suck. Sigh.
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Well, they didn't kill the goat for it, they just rented a dead goat, but even so, that only just clears ground for the real issue here.
Which is disrespect. To the goat, to the press, to the industry, to the consumer, to greek culture, and probably to others as well.
But, uh, they catered. Which means another company brought in the goat, as well as the other food.
Sony just funded for the catering, as they would for any other big press event, the only difference was the theme. I'm sure this catering company has done many themed caters with animals, such as the previously-mentioned pig with an apple in its mouth.
The goat was sanatized by professionals, and it was only used for housing the soup. Everything had been cleaned and prepped for consumption. The only way I would consider this a faulty event in any way is if people died because the catering company didn't sanitize the goat.
But they did.
So I think this entire 'fiasco' is retarded, 'lol Sony' jounalism, and absolutely nothing to get riled up over.
Well, they didn't kill the goat for it, they just rented a dead goat, but even so, that only just clears ground for the real issue here.
Which is disrespect. To the goat, to the press, to the industry, to the consumer, to greek culture, and probably to others as well.
But, uh, they catered. Which means another company brought in the goat, as well as the other food.
Sony just funded for the catering, as they would for any other big press event, the only difference was the theme. I'm sure this catering company has done many themed caters with animals, such as the previously-mentioned pig with an apple in its mouth.
The goat was sanatized by professionals, and it was only used for housing the soup. Everything had been cleaned and prepped for consumption. The only way I would consider this a faulty event in any way is if people died because the catering company didn't sanitize the goat.
But they did.
So I think this entire 'fiasco' is retarded, 'lol Sony' jounalism, and absolutely nothing to get riled up over.
There is also the part where they put the picture of a goat with it's head cut off in the OPSM. I would regard the goat thing as just tacky and stupid without that. However, with it, it is just plain retarded. It doesn't help that some of the misconceptions come from the magazine itself thanks to the fact that the guy who wrote the article wasn't even there.
Well, they didn't kill the goat for it, they just rented a dead goat, but even so, that only just clears ground for the real issue here.
Which is disrespect. To the goat, to the press, to the industry, to the consumer, to greek culture, and probably to others as well.
But, uh, they catered. Which means another company brought in the goat, as well as the other food.
Sony just funded for the catering, as they would for any other big press event, the only difference was the theme. I'm sure this catering company has done many themed caters with animals, such as the previously-mentioned pig with an apple in its mouth.
The goat was sanatized by professionals, and it was only used for housing the soup. Everything had been cleaned and prepped for consumption. The only way I would consider this a faulty event in any way is if people died because the catering company didn't sanitize the goat.
But they did.
So I think this entire 'fiasco' is retarded, 'lol Sony' jounalism, and absolutely nothing to get riled up over.
Ever hire a caterer? They don't just do whatever the hell they want, they do what you tell them to.
Well, they didn't kill the goat for it, they just rented a dead goat, but even so, that only just clears ground for the real issue here.
Which is disrespect. To the goat, to the press, to the industry, to the consumer, to greek culture, and probably to others as well.
But, uh, they catered. Which means another company brought in the goat, as well as the other food.
Sony just funded for the catering, as they would for any other big press event, the only difference was the theme. I'm sure this catering company has done many themed caters with animals, such as the previously-mentioned pig with an apple in its mouth.
The goat was sanatized by professionals, and it was only used for housing the soup. Everything had been cleaned and prepped for consumption. The only way I would consider this a faulty event in any way is if people died because the catering company didn't sanitize the goat.
But they did.
So I think this entire 'fiasco' is retarded, 'lol Sony' jounalism, and absolutely nothing to get riled up over.
Ever hire a caterer? They don't just do whatever the hell they want, they do what you tell them to.
I'm well aware, but if it was a 'horrendous' idea, the caterer would not do it. Also, Sony probably hired the caterer because they were experienced with prepping animals for presentation.
Sony's suits didn't sit in a roundtable, and think 'I KNOW, LET'S KILL A GOAT WOOOOOOOO'
Well, they didn't kill the goat for it, they just rented a dead goat, but even so, that only just clears ground for the real issue here.
Which is disrespect. To the goat, to the press, to the industry, to the consumer, to greek culture, and probably to others as well.
But, uh, they catered. Which means another company brought in the goat, as well as the other food.
Sony just funded for the catering, as they would for any other big press event, the only difference was the theme. I'm sure this catering company has done many themed caters with animals, such as the previously-mentioned pig with an apple in its mouth.
The goat was sanatized by professionals, and it was only used for housing the soup. Everything had been cleaned and prepped for consumption. The only way I would consider this a faulty event in any way is if people died because the catering company didn't sanitize the goat.
But they did.
So I think this entire 'fiasco' is retarded, 'lol Sony' jounalism, and absolutely nothing to get riled up over.
Ever hire a caterer? They don't just do whatever the hell they want, they do what you tell them to.
I'm well aware, but if it was a 'horrendous' idea, the caterer would not do it. Also, Sony probably hired the caterer because they were experienced with prepping animals for presentation.
Sony's suits didn't sit in a roundtable, and think 'I KNOW, LET'S KILL A GOAT WOOOOOOOO'
Which is pretty much the conclusion everyone leaped to.
With this new info, it's not nearly as bad as it seemed.
Well, they didn't kill the goat for it, they just rented a dead goat, but even so, that only just clears ground for the real issue here.
Which is disrespect. To the goat, to the press, to the industry, to the consumer, to greek culture, and probably to others as well.
But, uh, they catered. Which means another company brought in the goat, as well as the other food.
Sony just funded for the catering, as they would for any other big press event, the only difference was the theme. I'm sure this catering company has done many themed caters with animals, such as the previously-mentioned pig with an apple in its mouth.
The goat was sanatized by professionals, and it was only used for housing the soup. Everything had been cleaned and prepped for consumption. The only way I would consider this a faulty event in any way is if people died because the catering company didn't sanitize the goat.
But they did.
So I think this entire 'fiasco' is retarded, 'lol Sony' jounalism, and absolutely nothing to get riled up over.
Ever hire a caterer? They don't just do whatever the hell they want, they do what you tell them to.
I'm well aware, but if it was a 'horrendous' idea, the caterer would not do it. Also, Sony probably hired the caterer because they were experienced with prepping animals for presentation.
Sony's suits didn't sit in a roundtable, and think 'I KNOW, LET'S KILL A GOAT WOOOOOOOO'
I'm not talking about health risks.
Caterers do what you tell them to do, whether it is morally reprehensable, or not. Maybe some caterers would refuse, but then they would have just gone to another one.
Like I said, health risks aren't the problem; the issue is the pressense of a decapitated goat.
Well, they didn't kill the goat for it, they just rented a dead goat, but even so, that only just clears ground for the real issue here.
Which is disrespect. To the goat, to the press, to the industry, to the consumer, to greek culture, and probably to others as well.
But, uh, they catered. Which means another company brought in the goat, as well as the other food.
Sony just funded for the catering, as they would for any other big press event, the only difference was the theme. I'm sure this catering company has done many themed caters with animals, such as the previously-mentioned pig with an apple in its mouth.
The goat was sanatized by professionals, and it was only used for housing the soup. Everything had been cleaned and prepped for consumption. The only way I would consider this a faulty event in any way is if people died because the catering company didn't sanitize the goat.
But they did.
So I think this entire 'fiasco' is retarded, 'lol Sony' jounalism, and absolutely nothing to get riled up over.
Ever hire a caterer? They don't just do whatever the hell they want, they do what you tell them to.
I'm well aware, but if it was a 'horrendous' idea, the caterer would not do it. Also, Sony probably hired the caterer because they were experienced with prepping animals for presentation.
Sony's suits didn't sit in a roundtable, and think 'I KNOW, LET'S KILL A GOAT WOOOOOOOO'
Which is pretty much the conclusion everyone leaped to.
With this new info, it's not nearly as bad as it seemed.
I disagree.
The issue isn't the circumstances of the goat, it's the usage of it at all.
Sony is using real life violence to sell a video game.
If a child was playing with a dead animal, it would be viewed as an issue; why not Sony?
Again, I won't say I speak for everyone, but at least myself, and probably others. Its not the fact that a goat died, or parts of it was wasted, or anything like that. Its the fact that Sony filled a decapitated goat with soup to promote a party. Its just disrespectful. Killing an animal for food? Most of us don't have a problem. Personally, I can even understand hunting, though I wouldn't do it. But neither of these end up with presenting the dead creature(Mounting is a different story; Its a testament to the hunt and the skill of the hunter).
Again, its just disrespectful to showboat a dead creature to promote a party. If they had been serving some sort of goat dish, there would have been no problem. If they had a stuffed goat, little to no problem. Decapitated goat filled with soup? Problem.
I liken all of this to Mythbusters using dead pigs as human analogues and shooting canonballs at them, trying to rip them in half with cables and other such things, and if using dead animals is cool for Mythbusters, than its cool for Sony too. No big deal.
I liken all of this to Mythbusters using dead pigs as human analogues and shooting canonballs at them, trying to rip them in half with cables and other such things, and if using dead animals is cool for Mythbusters, than its cool for Sony too. No big deal.
There is also the part where they put the picture of a goat with it's head cut off in the OPSM. I would regard the goat thing as just tacky and stupid without that. However, with it, it is just plain retarded. It doesn't help that some of the misconceptions come from the magazine itself thanks to the fact that the guy who wrote the article wasn't even there.
Yeah except that Sony don't run OPSM. OPSM, in fact, pay Sony to be the official magazine.
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How/where the hell do you return a decapitated goat carcass full of soup?
Well, sure, but I think Sony deserves a bit of credit for sticking to their guns, regardless of the spin shitty journalists would add.
They didn't do it for negative publicity, they did it because it was a Greek event promoting God of War. Nothing more, nothing less. Hell, if they only had a Kratos impersonator, the story would say something to the regards of:
"Sony promotes God of War with erotic, big chested half-naked men: Gay gaming on the rise?"
Wow, that's a pretty badass idea on Sony's part.
Unfortunately, people are going to take things out of consideration/context in all this.
My understanding is that some butchers will make animal food from meat, not just stuff for humans. I imagine that after they were done with it, it got used for dog chow.
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Then gay gaming is here to stay!
Call me old fashioned, but I think it's pretty hard to find an "appropriate context" for filling a decapitated goat carcass with soup.
Well I wouldn't want my soup dispenser looking back at me.
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What about a disemboweled pig with an apple in it's mouth, or would that be too much?
That is a nice edit right there.
This is Europe. Some people over there eat haggis. Sony had to kick it up a notch for them.
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Yeah, but it was done to promote God of War 2. Shouldn't that ring any bells?
"What do you mean, faulty. Here, its got guts in it!"
"That's not guts, my good man. That is soup."
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I haven't played it. Does it have some kind of minigame where you fill a goat carcass with soup?
Well, they didn't kill the goat for it, they just rented a dead goat, but even so, that only just clears ground for the real issue here.
Which is disrespect. To the goat, to the press, to the industry, to the consumer, to greek culture, and probably to others as well.
I assumed they meant it was returned for disposal. You're right, nothing about the goat would be edible. (Not that I'd personall consider many parts of a goat edible even under the best circumstances.) Maybe there's some market for the hooves, horns, or whatever.
I mean, after all, the butcher did have a dead (and decapitated) goat handy for some reason, right? (Though actually, it's a valid question whether Sony asked for the goat to be decapitated; you'd think the butcher wouldn't otherwise do that.)
Also: So many simple unanswered questions! Journalists all suck. Sigh.
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But, uh, they catered. Which means another company brought in the goat, as well as the other food.
Sony just funded for the catering, as they would for any other big press event, the only difference was the theme. I'm sure this catering company has done many themed caters with animals, such as the previously-mentioned pig with an apple in its mouth.
The goat was sanatized by professionals, and it was only used for housing the soup. Everything had been cleaned and prepped for consumption. The only way I would consider this a faulty event in any way is if people died because the catering company didn't sanitize the goat.
But they did.
So I think this entire 'fiasco' is retarded, 'lol Sony' jounalism, and absolutely nothing to get riled up over.
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Pretty much, yea.
There is also the part where they put the picture of a goat with it's head cut off in the OPSM. I would regard the goat thing as just tacky and stupid without that. However, with it, it is just plain retarded. It doesn't help that some of the misconceptions come from the magazine itself thanks to the fact that the guy who wrote the article wasn't even there.
Ever hire a caterer? They don't just do whatever the hell they want, they do what you tell them to.
I'm well aware, but if it was a 'horrendous' idea, the caterer would not do it. Also, Sony probably hired the caterer because they were experienced with prepping animals for presentation.
Sony's suits didn't sit in a roundtable, and think 'I KNOW, LET'S KILL A GOAT WOOOOOOOO'
Which is pretty much the conclusion everyone leaped to.
With this new info, it's not nearly as bad as it seemed.
I'm not talking about health risks.
Caterers do what you tell them to do, whether it is morally reprehensable, or not. Maybe some caterers would refuse, but then they would have just gone to another one.
Like I said, health risks aren't the problem; the issue is the pressense of a decapitated goat.
I disagree.
The issue isn't the circumstances of the goat, it's the usage of it at all.
Sony is using real life violence to sell a video game.
If a child was playing with a dead animal, it would be viewed as an issue; why not Sony?
Killing a goat and using its untreated corpse as a serving tray: not fine.
This is still a pretty dumbass move.
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Again, its just disrespectful to showboat a dead creature to promote a party. If they had been serving some sort of goat dish, there would have been no problem. If they had a stuffed goat, little to no problem. Decapitated goat filled with soup? Problem.
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Yeah except that Sony don't run OPSM. OPSM, in fact, pay Sony to be the official magazine.
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