It is your fear of loss that becomes possession and jealousy. It is your fear of defeat that becomes anger and hatred.
The Dark Side comes from fear. It is born in fear. Fear is a loss of self-control, and the Dark Side is the antithesis of self-control. Those who start down its path lose control of themselves as the Dark Side twists their minds and forces them towards acts that release their anger and hatred indiscriminately.
The Dark Side is the imbalance. The Force is light and darkness but the Dark Side is not that.
This is what I mean when I say that
Rey’s success at the Cave was so amazing. “I should have felt trapped, afraid, panicked ...but I didn’t”. The Dark Side called to her, offered her knowledge, and Luke lost his shit about it - but then when she went down into the trap, the Dark Side threw everything it could at her to try and get her to take those first, fatal steps into fear, anger, hatred ...and she just said “so ...you don’t know who my parents are? Cool; I’m going to go back topside and dry off then, maybe find a blanket. Stupid mirror.” Perfect.
The problem I had with that scene
was the narration. It’s jarring as the only narration in Star Wars and it explains the scene to you as it’s happening. I don’t even get a chance to interpret what you’re showing on film because you’re just telling me what’s going on.
Dark side is Chaos, it's giving into fear, loss, rage, despair, hope, love enough that you just act. It's more powerful because there is nothing separating you from the Force, thought and action become one, and having become accustomed to this power it is very hard to draw back rather than to just let it flow over and relinquish control. Fall into the storm and lightening is at your fingertips, remake the world as it needs to be...
However civilisation isn't that, it's about resistance and control. Control of your own thoughts and of the others around you, and resistance to being controlled and to your own raw impulses. This is why the Light is balance.
Yeah, sure, but how does that relate the how the scene was shot and edited?
The Force is built out of the will of countless living individuals. In their struggles to survive and breed, they steal from and kill each other, without caring in the slightest about the needs of others or the suffering that they're causing. The cycle of life and death isn't built from harmony, it's built from greed and misery. Even while intelligent life began to invent the concept of morality, it began to prosper at the expense of other living things, either enslaving them to suit their whims or seeking to slaughter them whenever they become harmful or even inconvenient.
The Force is fundamentally built from darkness. To see it another way is to ignore the nature of individual existence.
The Force is built out of the will of countless living individuals. In their struggles to survive and breed, they steal from and kill each other, without caring in the slightest about the needs of others or the suffering that they're causing. The cycle of life and death isn't built from harmony, it's built from greed and misery. Even while intelligent life began to invent the concept of morality, it began to prosper at the expense of other living things, either enslaving them to suit their whims or seeking to slaughter them whenever they become harmful or even inconvenient.
The Force is fundamentally built from darkness. To see it another way is to ignore the nature of individual existence.
Isn't this ignoring the positive aspects of individual existence?
Blaming the Jedi for not eradicating every evil in the galaxy is ridiculous. What can the Jedi Order even do about slavery as an institution?
The old Order has flaws like their approach to negative emotions being unhealthy and tying themselves too closely to Republic politics but not being omnipotent is not one of them.
While racing light mechs, your Urbanmech comes in second place, but only because it ran out of ammo.
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So I went and saw this again today, and I really think I like it more now after seeing it twice (and I liked it plenty after seeing it once). Being able to pay attention to things I missed the first time around, or didn't hear clearly, or whatever is really great. Spoilery thoughts follow.
So the Canto Bight part felt better the second time around. It actually felt a little rushed, but I understand why since the movie is like 150 minutes long or something. I could see how Rose started warming up to Finn, but a little more time (like two or three more minutes) would have sold it better. Finn also does a fair bit of growing, especially when DJ cuts a deal to save himself on Snoke's ship. Still not enough Phasma, though.
Luke's confrontation with Kylo Ren was still amazing, though when they are first squaring off it looks like they are on an area where the top salt layer has been removed (by copious blaster fire) and then when Kylo Ren actually starts trying to murder Luke suddenly some of that top layer is back to show that Luke isn't really there. Pretty much everything on Crait was amazing, and I even can buy into Finn and Rose being chosen to pilot some of the speeders. They were basically out of pilots after the hangar exploded, and Finn and Rose didn't have any useful skills with C&C or communications so why not let them go out on what was probably a suicide mission to try and save the rest? It was perhaps a little unrealistic that Finn was able to drag the injured Rose all the way back to the base, but hey plot armor is useful sometimes.
Also the kid at the end totally uses the Force to pick up the broom. I'm sort of ambivalent about that, because the Force (or at least active control of it) was never really a pre-requisite for being a hero (Raddus, Akbar, Han, Lando, Chewie, R2-D2, Wedge, K-2SO, Jyn, Cassian and countless nameless soldiers and pilots come to mind) of the Rebellion/Resistance. On the other hand, motivated young force user!
Crystal foxes were still awesome. I still want a plush Porg (I doubt they could make a good plus crystal fox, but prove me wrong merch makers!). The giant horse things were kind of weird, but not outrageously so for Star Wars. A couple of the aliens in the casino still looked too plastic for my liking, and I wasn't able to figure out which alien was Warwick Davis (probably one of the plastic looking ones).
So in my opinion, if you saw it once, and at the least like it but thought it was flawed, go see it again. There's so much going on that you'll catch stuff you missed before, which could modify your feelings about the movie.
Man, everything about KOTOR is so rad. And everything about TOR up till Fallen Empire is so awful.
And it also makes me sad we'll likely never get a Star Wars RPG like them again.
I'd love to see them get a graphical upgrade. I don't consider myself a graphics whore but they have not aged well visually, and they weren't even pretty when they came out. Atmospheric, though, granted. But gameplay, story, voice acting, soundtrack... they can all remain untouched. They're brilliant.
EDIT: Well... the UI is a bit clunky too. Doesn't need rebuilding, just a little streamlining.
There's some pretty good packs I've found on DeadlyStream and Nexus that fix a lot of things visually. New shaders and textures along with other fixes.
Blaming the Jedi for not eradicating every evil in the galaxy is ridiculous. What can the Jedi Order even do about slavery as an institution?
The old Order has flaws like their approach to negative emotions being unhealthy and tying themselves too closely to Republic politics but not being omnipotent is not one of them.
Yeah I've always thought the main answer to "Why didn't the Jedi end slavery on Tatooine" was just simply... Well, it's way the fuck out there, it's not in the Republic.
The Jedi are the defenders of the Republic trying to do good, they're not holy crusaders traveling across the galaxy invading anyone who does bad.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
So I went and saw this again today, and I really think I like it more now after seeing it twice (and I liked it plenty after seeing it once). Being able to pay attention to things I missed the first time around, or didn't hear clearly, or whatever is really great. Spoilery thoughts follow.
So the Canto Bight part felt better the second time around. It actually felt a little rushed, but I understand why since the movie is like 150 minutes long or something. I could see how Rose started warming up to Finn, but a little more time (like two or three more minutes) would have sold it better. Finn also does a fair bit of growing, especially when DJ cuts a deal to save himself on Snoke's ship. Still not enough Phasma, though.
Luke's confrontation with Kylo Ren was still amazing, though when they are first squaring off it looks like they are on an area where the top salt layer has been removed (by copious blaster fire) and then when Kylo Ren actually starts trying to murder Luke suddenly some of that top layer is back to show that Luke isn't really there. Pretty much everything on Crait was amazing, and I even can buy into Finn and Rose being chosen to pilot some of the speeders. They were basically out of pilots after the hangar exploded, and Finn and Rose didn't have any useful skills with C&C or communications so why not let them go out on what was probably a suicide mission to try and save the rest? It was perhaps a little unrealistic that Finn was able to drag the injured Rose all the way back to the base, but hey plot armor is useful sometimes.
Also the kid at the end totally uses the Force to pick up the broom. I'm sort of ambivalent about that, because the Force (or at least active control of it) was never really a pre-requisite for being a hero (Raddus, Akbar, Han, Lando, Chewie, R2-D2, Wedge, K-2SO, Jyn, Cassian and countless nameless soldiers and pilots come to mind) of the Rebellion/Resistance. On the other hand, motivated young force user!
Crystal foxes were still awesome. I still want a plush Porg (I doubt they could make a good plus crystal fox, but prove me wrong merch makers!). The giant horse things were kind of weird, but not outrageously so for Star Wars. A couple of the aliens in the casino still looked too plastic for my liking, and I wasn't able to figure out which alien was Warwick Davis (probably one of the plastic looking ones).
So in my opinion, if you saw it once, and at the least like it but thought it was flawed, go see it again. There's so much going on that you'll catch stuff you missed before, which could modify your feelings about the movie.
I'm going to go see it again on Friday with my family back home. Little sis hasn't seen it yet and has no idea what my feelings are on the film so I'm not going to say a single word about it until we see it together. That being said I'm warming up to a lot of the concepts that are introduced, especially about the direction they took with Luke. I doubt that I'll change my mind on the actual technical aspects on it, but maybe I can appreciate more what the film is trying to say.
Man, everything about KOTOR is so rad. And everything about TOR up till Fallen Empire is so awful.
And it also makes me sad we'll likely never get a Star Wars RPG like them again.
I'd love to see them get a graphical upgrade. I don't consider myself a graphics whore but they have not aged well visually, and they weren't even pretty when they came out. Atmospheric, though, granted. But gameplay, story, voice acting, soundtrack... they can all remain untouched. They're brilliant.
EDIT: Well... the UI is a bit clunky too. Doesn't need rebuilding, just a little streamlining.
There's some pretty good packs I've found on DeadlyStream and Nexus that fix a lot of things visually. New shaders and textures along with other fixes.
I've got KOTOR and KOTOR II on Steam. Never played either before, what mods should I look into?
Man, everything about KOTOR is so rad. And everything about TOR up till Fallen Empire is so awful.
And it also makes me sad we'll likely never get a Star Wars RPG like them again.
I'd love to see them get a graphical upgrade. I don't consider myself a graphics whore but they have not aged well visually, and they weren't even pretty when they came out. Atmospheric, though, granted. But gameplay, story, voice acting, soundtrack... they can all remain untouched. They're brilliant.
EDIT: Well... the UI is a bit clunky too. Doesn't need rebuilding, just a little streamlining.
There's some pretty good packs I've found on DeadlyStream and Nexus that fix a lot of things visually. New shaders and textures along with other fixes.
I've got KOTOR and KOTOR II on Steam. Never played either before, what mods should I look into?
A short list of what I'm running. Beware, on Steam you may have to a little extra work.
The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod: Required. Full stop. Should easily be able to find it through Steam, but it's also on Nexus. Just run the .exe and point it to your main folder. Will change your main menu screen if it installs correctly.
Or get dumped into the "Override" folder. I.e., any texture pack you want. Do a search on Steam for them.
TSL High Quality Blasters, you won't realize how garbage the models and textures are for weapons in KOTOR until you get this. I haven't found too much need for NPC/armor updates other than an alt skin here or there. Comes with its own installer. IMPORTANT, there are TWO versions of this mod, one for KOTOR 1, and one for KOTOR 2, make sure you use the right version: http://deadlystream.com/forum/files/file/915-high-quality-blasters/
Worth noting: KOTOR 2 on Steam now does support widescreen and true HD natively, since its surprise update a couple of years back. And has mod support (including the Restored Content Mod) though Steam Workshop.
KOTOR 1, though, has none of that, so worship at the altar of the old mods.
It is your fear of loss that becomes possession and jealousy. It is your fear of defeat that becomes anger and hatred.
The Dark Side comes from fear. It is born in fear. Fear is a loss of self-control, and the Dark Side is the antithesis of self-control. Those who start down its path lose control of themselves as the Dark Side twists their minds and forces them towards acts that release their anger and hatred indiscriminately.
The Dark Side is the imbalance. The Force is light and darkness but the Dark Side is not that.
This is what I mean when I say that
Rey’s success at the Cave was so amazing. “I should have felt trapped, afraid, panicked ...but I didn’t”. The Dark Side called to her, offered her knowledge, and Luke lost his shit about it - but then when she went down into the trap, the Dark Side threw everything it could at her to try and get her to take those first, fatal steps into fear, anger, hatred ...and she just said “so ...you don’t know who my parents are? Cool; I’m going to go back topside and dry off then, maybe find a blanket. Stupid mirror.” Perfect.
The problem I had with that scene
was the narration. It’s jarring as the only narration in Star Wars and it explains the scene to you as it’s happening. I don’t even get a chance to interpret what you’re showing on film because you’re just telling me what’s going on.
Dark side is Chaos, it's giving into fear, loss, rage, despair, hope, love enough that you just act. It's more powerful because there is nothing separating you from the Force, thought and action become one, and having become accustomed to this power it is very hard to draw back rather than to just let it flow over and relinquish control. Fall into the storm and lightening is at your fingertips, remake the world as it needs to be...
However civilisation isn't that, it's about resistance and control. Control of your own thoughts and of the others around you, and resistance to being controlled and to your own raw impulses. This is why the Light is balance.
Yeah, sure, but how does that relate the how the scene was shot and edited?
Rey untrained faces a "dark side" test, but not as a challenge- just as a natural occurrence of the Force. I don't think in the Eu we've really encountered the light side equivalent of the Dark Side caves.
Her mind is not used to giving in to emotional or physical urges, having grown up mostly alone on Jakku - but there is one itch that could be scratched.
But whilst Luke is used to seeing the forces a competition between light and dark, good vs evil - he sees the Dark as something else to be fought, rather than resisted. Rey explores this as a conceptual thing - whilst coming to terms with what the Force is. Honestly I'd need to see the scene again, but it struck me as coming up against something fundamental yet alien, and trying to come to terms with that.
If these goalposts moved more I'd suspect they were on a giant rumba, HamHamJ.
He murders a bunch of people because someone insulted him IIRC. I'm not sure crazy psychopath doesn't apply just because he seems nice most of the time.
He destroys people harming his planet and the creatures he protects.
Have... have you watched any of these things? Or is it just misconstruing the episodes to support your narrative?
The Rebels were harming his planet?
Yes! That's the whole point of the Bendu arc. He didn't want them there, he warned them that if they stayed they would bring their war, and then they did and it led to the planet getting an orbital bombardment.
It's not even a context thing. He specifically says all those things at various points in the season.
I don't think they have any moral culpability for the actions of the evil facists enslaving the galaxy and being like "ain't my problem, gtfo or I'll kill you" puts you on the side of the space nazis.
Uh... ok? It's not something I'm inventing or a point of view. You might not agree with it, which is fine. But that's how it happened.
It is a point of view. The Bendu is not an example of the dark side not turning you evil because he is in fact evil.
Citation for the bolded please
Apathy and indifference to the plight of other people is evil. Also murdering people.
Bendu represents nature. Nature doesn't give a shit about your war, and it will straight up kill you, like an avalanche or a storm or a tsunami or a forest fire, if you don't respect it and/or get the hell out of its way.
Nature isn't hate, or love. It just is.
If these goalposts moved more I'd suspect they were on a giant rumba, HamHamJ.
He murders a bunch of people because someone insulted him IIRC. I'm not sure crazy psychopath doesn't apply just because he seems nice most of the time.
He destroys people harming his planet and the creatures he protects.
Have... have you watched any of these things? Or is it just misconstruing the episodes to support your narrative?
The Rebels were harming his planet?
Yes! That's the whole point of the Bendu arc. He didn't want them there, he warned them that if they stayed they would bring their war, and then they did and it led to the planet getting an orbital bombardment.
It's not even a context thing. He specifically says all those things at various points in the season.
I don't think they have any moral culpability for the actions of the evil facists enslaving the galaxy and being like "ain't my problem, gtfo or I'll kill you" puts you on the side of the space nazis.
Uh... ok? It's not something I'm inventing or a point of view. You might not agree with it, which is fine. But that's how it happened.
It is a point of view. The Bendu is not an example of the dark side not turning you evil because he is in fact evil.
Citation for the bolded please
Apathy and indifference to the plight of other people is evil. Also murdering people.
Bendu represents nature. Nature doesn't give a shit about your war, and it will straight up kill you, like an avalanche or a storm or a tsunami or a forest fire, if you don't respect it and/or get the hell out of its way.
Nature isn't hate, or love. It just is.
Nature isn't sentient. If you can talk and reason you are a moral actor and have moral obligations.
While racing light mechs, your Urbanmech comes in second place, but only because it ran out of ammo.
Rey untrained faces a "dark side" test, but not as a challenge- just as a natural occurrence of the Force. I don't think in the Eu we've really encountered the light side equivalent of the Dark Side caves.
Her mind is not used to giving in to emotional or physical urges, having grown up mostly alone on Jakku - but there is one itch that could be scratched.
But whilst Luke is used to seeing the forces a competition between light and dark, good vs evil - he sees the Dark as something else to be fought, rather than resisted. Rey explores this as a conceptual thing - whilst coming to terms with what the Force is. Honestly I'd need to see the scene again, but it struck me as coming up against something fundamental yet alien, and trying to come to terms with that.
A far cry from the Dark Side cave on Dagobah.
Having just shotgunned all of Jeff Vandermeer's _Southern Reach_ trilogy after seeing the first trailer for Annihilation a couple months ago, it felt to me a lot more like an encounter with Area X than like anything we have learned to associate with the Force thus far. I still think
Rey's complete indifference to the Cave puts her in, as far as we have seen, a unique stratum of Force-sensitive. I hope that we get to see more about that in IX.
As to how it was shot and edited,
I also found the narration off-putting and at first I thought it was somehow part of the Cave itself - Rey having to narrate her own thoughts to herself as she was lost in the infinite recursion of the mirror. Thinking about it now though, while it's still one of the parts of the film at which I look askance, I feel like maybe it's meant to not only give the viewer something concrete to guide them through what they're seeing, but to indicate by the "narration" to Kylo being overlapped with the action in time, that Rey is not just telling him about it, but somehow showing him (and then giving Kylo the same "handrail" of narrative thread that the audience is given). Either way, it is definitely a good candidate for the Blade Runner Director's Cut treatment where we get to experience the really cool visual and aural effect of the Mirror with no overdubbed narration.
edit: more erring on the side of caution w/r/t spoiler tags
If these goalposts moved more I'd suspect they were on a giant rumba, HamHamJ.
He murders a bunch of people because someone insulted him IIRC. I'm not sure crazy psychopath doesn't apply just because he seems nice most of the time.
He destroys people harming his planet and the creatures he protects.
Have... have you watched any of these things? Or is it just misconstruing the episodes to support your narrative?
The Rebels were harming his planet?
Yes! That's the whole point of the Bendu arc. He didn't want them there, he warned them that if they stayed they would bring their war, and then they did and it led to the planet getting an orbital bombardment.
It's not even a context thing. He specifically says all those things at various points in the season.
I don't think they have any moral culpability for the actions of the evil facists enslaving the galaxy and being like "ain't my problem, gtfo or I'll kill you" puts you on the side of the space nazis.
Uh... ok? It's not something I'm inventing or a point of view. You might not agree with it, which is fine. But that's how it happened.
It is a point of view. The Bendu is not an example of the dark side not turning you evil because he is in fact evil.
Citation for the bolded please
Apathy and indifference to the plight of other people is evil. Also murdering people.
Bendu represents nature. Nature doesn't give a shit about your war, and it will straight up kill you, like an avalanche or a storm or a tsunami or a forest fire, if you don't respect it and/or get the hell out of its way.
Nature isn't hate, or love. It just is.
Nature isn't sentient. If you can talk and reason you are a moral actor and have moral obligations.
Sentients invent morality and project it onto the natural world, saying that this bit is good and this bit is evil.
Which is dumb, IMO, but try to stop them from doing it.
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Yeah, sure, but how does that relate the how the scene was shot and edited?
The Force is fundamentally built from darkness. To see it another way is to ignore the nature of individual existence.
Altruism isn't a myth, after all.
The old Order has flaws like their approach to negative emotions being unhealthy and tying themselves too closely to Republic politics but not being omnipotent is not one of them.
Luke's confrontation with Kylo Ren was still amazing, though when they are first squaring off it looks like they are on an area where the top salt layer has been removed (by copious blaster fire) and then when Kylo Ren actually starts trying to murder Luke suddenly some of that top layer is back to show that Luke isn't really there. Pretty much everything on Crait was amazing, and I even can buy into Finn and Rose being chosen to pilot some of the speeders. They were basically out of pilots after the hangar exploded, and Finn and Rose didn't have any useful skills with C&C or communications so why not let them go out on what was probably a suicide mission to try and save the rest? It was perhaps a little unrealistic that Finn was able to drag the injured Rose all the way back to the base, but hey plot armor is useful sometimes.
Also the kid at the end totally uses the Force to pick up the broom. I'm sort of ambivalent about that, because the Force (or at least active control of it) was never really a pre-requisite for being a hero (Raddus, Akbar, Han, Lando, Chewie, R2-D2, Wedge, K-2SO, Jyn, Cassian and countless nameless soldiers and pilots come to mind) of the Rebellion/Resistance. On the other hand, motivated young force user!
Crystal foxes were still awesome. I still want a plush Porg (I doubt they could make a good plus crystal fox, but prove me wrong merch makers!). The giant horse things were kind of weird, but not outrageously so for Star Wars. A couple of the aliens in the casino still looked too plastic for my liking, and I wasn't able to figure out which alien was Warwick Davis (probably one of the plastic looking ones).
So in my opinion, if you saw it once, and at the least like it but thought it was flawed, go see it again. There's so much going on that you'll catch stuff you missed before, which could modify your feelings about the movie.
There's some pretty good packs I've found on DeadlyStream and Nexus that fix a lot of things visually. New shaders and textures along with other fixes.
Yeah I've always thought the main answer to "Why didn't the Jedi end slavery on Tatooine" was just simply... Well, it's way the fuck out there, it's not in the Republic.
The Jedi are the defenders of the Republic trying to do good, they're not holy crusaders traveling across the galaxy invading anyone who does bad.
I'm going to go see it again on Friday with my family back home. Little sis hasn't seen it yet and has no idea what my feelings are on the film so I'm not going to say a single word about it until we see it together. That being said I'm warming up to a lot of the concepts that are introduced, especially about the direction they took with Luke. I doubt that I'll change my mind on the actual technical aspects on it, but maybe I can appreciate more what the film is trying to say.
I've got KOTOR and KOTOR II on Steam. Never played either before, what mods should I look into?
Your face is a texture pack.
Got em.
A short list of what I'm running. Beware, on Steam you may have to a little extra work.
The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod: Required. Full stop. Should easily be able to find it through Steam, but it's also on Nexus. Just run the .exe and point it to your main folder. Will change your main menu screen if it installs correctly.
Universal Widescreen patch: Only have to do a minor .ini tweak which is described on the page. Highly recommended, true HD. You may need to download a separate .exe file and disable updates, cause Steam's EXE doesn't work with mods.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/03/the-fixer-how-to-restore-knights-of-the-old-republic-ii/
http://www.wsgf.org/dr/star-wars-knights-old-republic-ii-sith-lords
All other mods pretty much get dumped into either the main folder, like for this shader:
http://deadlystream.com/forum/topic/3002-reshade-for-kotor-tsl/#entry30622
Or get dumped into the "Override" folder. I.e., any texture pack you want. Do a search on Steam for them.
TSL High Quality Blasters, you won't realize how garbage the models and textures are for weapons in KOTOR until you get this. I haven't found too much need for NPC/armor updates other than an alt skin here or there. Comes with its own installer. IMPORTANT, there are TWO versions of this mod, one for KOTOR 1, and one for KOTOR 2, make sure you use the right version:
http://deadlystream.com/forum/files/file/915-high-quality-blasters/
TSL Backdrop Improvements:
https://www.nexusmods.com/kotor2/mods/922
TSL Realistic Visual Effects, nice because it removes some of the goofy effects like glowing swords for power attacks so you can admire the animations:
http://deadlystream.com/forum/files/file/735-realistic-visual-effects/
For skins for NPCs, you can grab pretty much anything that grabs your attention. I really liked this armor set for example:
http://deadlystream.com/forum/files/file/952-electromesh-robes/
KOTOR 1, though, has none of that, so worship at the altar of the old mods.
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Rey untrained faces a "dark side" test, but not as a challenge- just as a natural occurrence of the Force. I don't think in the Eu we've really encountered the light side equivalent of the Dark Side caves.
Her mind is not used to giving in to emotional or physical urges, having grown up mostly alone on Jakku - but there is one itch that could be scratched.
But whilst Luke is used to seeing the forces a competition between light and dark, good vs evil - he sees the Dark as something else to be fought, rather than resisted. Rey explores this as a conceptual thing - whilst coming to terms with what the Force is. Honestly I'd need to see the scene again, but it struck me as coming up against something fundamental yet alien, and trying to come to terms with that.
A far cry from the Dark Side cave on Dagobah.
Bendu represents nature. Nature doesn't give a shit about your war, and it will straight up kill you, like an avalanche or a storm or a tsunami or a forest fire, if you don't respect it and/or get the hell out of its way.
Nature isn't hate, or love. It just is.
Nature isn't sentient. If you can talk and reason you are a moral actor and have moral obligations.
Having just shotgunned all of Jeff Vandermeer's _Southern Reach_ trilogy after seeing the first trailer for Annihilation a couple months ago, it felt to me a lot more like an encounter with Area X than like anything we have learned to associate with the Force thus far. I still think
As to how it was shot and edited,
edit: more erring on the side of caution w/r/t spoiler tags
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Sentients invent morality and project it onto the natural world, saying that this bit is good and this bit is evil.
Which is dumb, IMO, but try to stop them from doing it.
Someone make a new one.