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[FFXIV:Stormblood] Rise of a New Sun (Patch 4.2) rises Jan 30th [Prelim Patch Notes]

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  • Hybrid_Dolphin87Hybrid_Dolphin87 ScotlandRegistered User regular
    and you have crazy people like me who have 70 in everything. I'd like to call such people 'gold members'

    How long did that take?

  • SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    edited May 2018
    and you have crazy people like me who have 70 in everything. I'd like to call such people 'gold members'

    How long did that take?

    I had everything capped back during Heavensward (I wanna say 3.3), and caught everything back up around when 4.2 hit. It's not too bad these days between roulettes, beast tribe dailies and Palace of the Dead runs. Combat classes get a flat 50% experience bonus if they're a lower level than your highest one. Gatherers and crafters can take a while depending on how you do it. Dark Knight, Astrologian, and Machinist all start at 30, and Red Mage and Samurai start at 50, so that also helps.

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    edited May 2018
    and you have crazy people like me who have 70 in everything. I'd like to call such people 'gold members'

    How long did that take?

    Leveling the tanks and healers was the easy part. The DPS on the other hand...If you don't have a normal group that you play with, waiting around for queues to pop can take upwards of half an hour. Luckily there were dailies like the centrilo hunts, fates, and leves for crafters/gatherers to help ease the pain of waiting.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited May 2018
    and you have crazy people like me who have 70 in everything. I'd like to call such people 'gold members'

    How long did that take?

    Leveling the tanks and healers was the easy part. The DPS on the other hand...If you don't have a normal group that you play with, waiting around for queues to pop can take upwards of half an hour. Luckily there were dailies like the centrilo hunts, fates, and leves for crafters/gatherers.

    It helped that I was leveling alongside my wife, and we set a rule of "one of us levels a tank/healer, one of us levels a DPS". So we only had two jobs where we had the long queues.

    We play regularly, and took time off when Stormblood launched, so we had our first 70s that weekend. It probably took us about 2 months to level everything. Again, we're regular players, so we know the tricks to leveling aggressively.

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  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    Update time? Update time.

    Queen and I are very slowly working through the post ARR story missions. We've been mostly focused on levelling up crafting. As of now, I have MIN, BSM, ARM and GSM to 50, and Queen just hit 50 FSH and will finish up LTH soon.

    I've been focused on the Ixal quests and expect to be done with them this weekend. We will soon have to decide when to buy the expansions as it still bugs Queen that we're "wasting" XP doing missions while capped at 50.

    Also, if anyone's noticed, sorry for bogarting all the Shards from the guild house. I hope to be able to replace them soon.

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  • NeurotikaNeurotika Registered User regular
    Adding that plus enmity to Plunge makes me far more likely to open with it now

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    ForceVoid wrote: »
    Adding that plus enmity to Plunge makes me far more likely to open with it now

    The big boost is to Sole Survivor (a.k.a. NOM) - now it always replenishes 20% HP/MP, with an added 10% if you kill the target. Also, Dark Mind no longer needs to be boosted.

    Dark Passenger is still "why use this when you have Abyssal Drain", sadly.

    The weekly Eureka challenges will help immensely, both for people catching up in Anemos, and when we get to Pagos finally.

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  • McMoogleMcMoogle Registered User regular
    Bards haven't been in patch PvE patch notes since 4.0 dropped. Turns out, we're better when we're not casters. :)

    As with every patch since Stormblood I had happily forgotten the two main characters the story was following, until each patch's release. Now I'm forced to deal with them again. Keeping this somewhat vague for the likes of Romantic Undead and other newer players.

    Here's to hoping for something that I enjoy this time. Though if you have been enjoying them more power to you.

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  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    edited May 2018
    Incredibly powerful curse
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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    I've heard that Akh Afah Amphitheatre (Extreme) is soloable for Diamond Dust farming. What's the minimum level to do so? Whatever it is, I don't seem to be there quite yet.

  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    I've found that the minimum ilvl for farming a bunch of that stuff is RDM.

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  • YukiraYukira Registered User regular
    It's pretty simple, if slow to solo as AST in Nocturnal stance.

    Probably even easier as a Scholar.

  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited May 2018
    Huh. So their solution to players saying using Dark Arts was tedious, was to add Dark Arts effects to more attacks. :rotate:

    EDIT: the palace of the dead changes to how you get the glowy weapons is pretty nice.

    In the end it works out to be exactly the same costs, but you can get the things in increments of 10 power/armor instead of 30/60, so as to not so dramatically effect your performance. it suuuuuucks to drop down so much when you're spamming 51-60 for XP, so only losing 10 at a time will make it so you can stay at generally the same power level.

    And if you're not collecting the weapons it doesn't really matter either way.

    EDIT EDIT: I guess they didn't come to their senses
    The loot rule for alliance raids is now locked to Greed Only.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Eh. Dark Arts potency increases are fungible. If anything, it'd be Sole Survivor that is a culprit for increased DA usage, not Plunge.

  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    So last night I managed to get into a group to heal in front of a live audience of thousands for a first-time Vault tank streamer. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/262983126?t=03h26m00s Then later I tweeted a picture from it, and in the morning I find my tweet has over 32,000 impressions and over 3,000 engagements. Now I'm just glad I put on a right proper glamour before doing that. Oh, and not letting anyone die. That would have been awkward.

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  • Super NamicchiSuper Namicchi Registered User regular
    oh shoot you got grouped with Max, hah

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    So that's interesting - the new crafter gear is based on the craftable 350 gear, but isn't craftable itself. Instead, you'll be upgrading it.

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    I don't think that's referring to crafter gear; the highest crafter gear we have at the moment is only 330 or so. This is an upgrade path for DoW crafted 350 gear, sounds like.

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    Left side craftable is 320, right side craftable is still 290. We've been using the same accessories and waist since 4.0. :tell_me_more:

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited May 2018
    I don't understand their plan for DoH/L gear this expansion.

    HW had the base 60 stuff, then Carbonweave and then Ironworks, that were crafted.

    SB has already done two white crafting sets on the left side, but just the base on the right. I assumed this patch would have the 320 right side; but are they going to do another tier? Or just another left side in 4.5?

    But it would still leave the scrip gear, relative to how they did it in HW anyway, in an odd place. Augmented scrip gear in HW was 10ilvl above the Ironworks gear that was the best crafted stuff, but IW allowed for melding to push it over the stats of the scrip gear. But we've already got the augmented scrip left side and it is 330, 10 ilvl above the current crafted set. If they make another crafted set then it would be well above the scrip gear.

    Could there be yet another level of scrip augmentation this round? I think they did introduce the scrip blue gear well before they had in HW, so that could make sense?

    EDIT: I wonder how bad I fucked up by not really spending much time in Eureka before this patch; if everyone will have moved on to the new one and how much of a pain in the ass it will be to try to do the first tier going forward.

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  • IlpalaIlpala Just this guy, y'know TexasRegistered User regular
    I don't understand their plan for DoH/L gear this expansion.

    HW had the base 60 stuff, then Carbonweave and then Ironworks, that were crafted.

    SB has already done two white crafting sets on the left side, but just the base on the right. I assumed this patch would have the 320 right side; but are they going to do another tier? Or just another left side in 4.5?

    But it would still leave the scrip gear, relative to how they did it in HW anyway, in an odd place. Augmented scrip gear in HW was 10ilvl above the Ironworks gear that was the best crafted stuff, but IW allowed for melding to push it over the stats of the scrip gear. But we've already got the augmented scrip left side and it is 330, 10 ilvl above the current crafted set. If they make another crafted set then it would be well above the scrip gear.

    Could there be yet another level of scrip augmentation this round? I think they did introduce the scrip blue gear well before they had in HW, so that could make sense?

    EDIT: I wonder how bad I fucked up by not really spending much time in Eureka before this patch; if everyone will have moved on to the new one and how much of a pain in the ass it will be to try to do the first tier going forward.

    Depends almost entirely on how fruitful the exp rewards for the challenge log entries are. But also new Eureka isn't coming for a WHILE, so.

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  • TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    Anything different between preliminary and final?

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  • SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    Ilpala wrote: »
    I don't understand their plan for DoH/L gear this expansion.

    HW had the base 60 stuff, then Carbonweave and then Ironworks, that were crafted.

    SB has already done two white crafting sets on the left side, but just the base on the right. I assumed this patch would have the 320 right side; but are they going to do another tier? Or just another left side in 4.5?

    But it would still leave the scrip gear, relative to how they did it in HW anyway, in an odd place. Augmented scrip gear in HW was 10ilvl above the Ironworks gear that was the best crafted stuff, but IW allowed for melding to push it over the stats of the scrip gear. But we've already got the augmented scrip left side and it is 330, 10 ilvl above the current crafted set. If they make another crafted set then it would be well above the scrip gear.

    Could there be yet another level of scrip augmentation this round? I think they did introduce the scrip blue gear well before they had in HW, so that could make sense?

    EDIT: I wonder how bad I fucked up by not really spending much time in Eureka before this patch; if everyone will have moved on to the new one and how much of a pain in the ass it will be to try to do the first tier going forward.

    Depends almost entirely on how fruitful the exp rewards for the challenge log entries are. But also new Eureka isn't coming for a WHILE, so.

    If you can make it to level 15 before 4.3.5 you should be okay. 17 is the last quest in Anemos and probably the required level for Pagos.

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  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    oh shoot you got grouped with Max, hah

    That's so cool! I love Max, and didn't even know he played FFXIV (I watch him to stay caught up on the fighting game scene and, more recently, for his Monster Hunter content)

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited May 2018
    Ilpala wrote: »
    I don't understand their plan for DoH/L gear this expansion.

    HW had the base 60 stuff, then Carbonweave and then Ironworks, that were crafted.

    SB has already done two white crafting sets on the left side, but just the base on the right. I assumed this patch would have the 320 right side; but are they going to do another tier? Or just another left side in 4.5?

    But it would still leave the scrip gear, relative to how they did it in HW anyway, in an odd place. Augmented scrip gear in HW was 10ilvl above the Ironworks gear that was the best crafted stuff, but IW allowed for melding to push it over the stats of the scrip gear. But we've already got the augmented scrip left side and it is 330, 10 ilvl above the current crafted set. If they make another crafted set then it would be well above the scrip gear.

    Could there be yet another level of scrip augmentation this round? I think they did introduce the scrip blue gear well before they had in HW, so that could make sense?

    EDIT: I wonder how bad I fucked up by not really spending much time in Eureka before this patch; if everyone will have moved on to the new one and how much of a pain in the ass it will be to try to do the first tier going forward.

    Depends almost entirely on how fruitful the exp rewards for the challenge log entries are. But also new Eureka isn't coming for a WHILE, so.

    Oh? I thought the new zone, snow or whatever, was with this patch? EDIT: Oh, 4.35 I guess?

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  • Man in the MistsMan in the Mists Registered User regular
    Yeah, all the really interesting stuff isn't going to be added today. No new Eureka, no foray into the Infinite Jenga, no new Manderville goodness.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    But we get Ridorana and the Magical Mystery Trial.

  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    @Takel could you update the thread title please?

  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    edited May 2018
    The patch can be downloaded now (1582 MB)

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  • Man in the MistsMan in the Mists Registered User regular
    Servers are up! Two hours early, not that I'm complaining.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited May 2018
    New crafter/gatherer gear is 340, level 70 3 star crafts.

    Edit: And yes, there are right sides this time.

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  • SabreMauSabreMau ネトゲしよう 판다리아Registered User regular
    oh shoot you got grouped with Max, hah

    That's so cool! I love Max, and didn't even know he played FFXIV (I watch him to stay caught up on the fighting game scene and, more recently, for his Monster Hunter content)

    If you want to see really young Max, he posted some video in 2013 when he was playing the game the first time.




    He stopped playing the MSQ at level 28 of the quest chain, right before the Haukke Manor part, because he found that boring. Instead, he grinded to level 50 primarily off of FATEs (he's also an FFXI player). So when he got back into the game a month or two ago, he was already 50 and just did an ARR MSQ skip potion to start playing Heavensward.

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  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    SabreMau wrote: »
    oh shoot you got grouped with Max, hah

    That's so cool! I love Max, and didn't even know he played FFXIV (I watch him to stay caught up on the fighting game scene and, more recently, for his Monster Hunter content)

    If you want to see really young Max, he posted some video in 2013 when he was playing the game the first time.




    He stopped playing the MSQ at level 28 of the quest chain, right before the Haukke Manor part, because he found that boring. Instead, he grinded to level 50 primarily off of FATEs (he's also an FFXI player). So when he got back into the game a month or two ago, he was already 50 and just did an ARR MSQ skip potion to start playing Heavensward.

    Sounds like my wife. I understand the story/dialogue gets a little less stilted in the expacs, is that true? If it weren't for me, my wife would have bounced hard on this game ages ago. Dialogue in the main parts of this game is some archaic stuff, and the voice acting does it no favors. I'm cool with it 'cause I'm a nerd, and I suppose this kind of stuff can be immersive to some, but it's grating as hell to others who just want to have a good time kicking ass in an RPG setting.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    SabreMau wrote: »
    oh shoot you got grouped with Max, hah

    That's so cool! I love Max, and didn't even know he played FFXIV (I watch him to stay caught up on the fighting game scene and, more recently, for his Monster Hunter content)

    If you want to see really young Max, he posted some video in 2013 when he was playing the game the first time.




    He stopped playing the MSQ at level 28 of the quest chain, right before the Haukke Manor part, because he found that boring. Instead, he grinded to level 50 primarily off of FATEs (he's also an FFXI player). So when he got back into the game a month or two ago, he was already 50 and just did an ARR MSQ skip potion to start playing Heavensward.

    Sounds like my wife. I understand the story/dialogue gets a little less stilted in the expacs, is that true? If it weren't for me, my wife would have bounced hard on this game ages ago. Dialogue in the main parts of this game is some archaic stuff, and the voice acting does it no favors. I'm cool with it 'cause I'm a nerd, and I suppose this kind of stuff can be immersive to some, but it's grating as hell to others who just want to have a good time kicking ass in an RPG setting.

    The devs were pretty much crunched for time throughout the ARR years, and it does show in some ways.

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
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    The new crafting body doesn't look bad at all.

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    I briefly checked out the new scrip/crafted DoL/H gear and now I'm even more confused than I already was about their intentions.

    The new scrip accessories are 350, yet they only have marginally better stats than the HQ 290's, and can't be melded. That would have made sense if they were 300 like the other base scrip gear, but 350. The scrip off hands are 330.

    I wonder if they made the accessories the wrong ilvl and it is a display issue? Their stats/ilvl don't make much sense otherwise. Their stats/ilvl don't make much sense regardless, but yeah.

    It looks like there's an entire new crafted DoL/H set at (I think?) 340, which is also weird.

    I don't get it. Ilvls all over the place on DoL/H gear and the stats don't seem to totally line up with the ilvls.

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  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    This patch tricked me, it was telegraphing a big wind up punch but then hit me in the back with a third secret arm I didn't know it had

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  • TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    New Primal Ex fight is one of the better ones that they've put together. It's not that long, mechanics are quick and interesting enough to move through. Good work design team.

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