Just to settle something from before, I was able to hit 500k with Cloud USB on a Jump Start 3-man CM team, with the CSB as my Roaming Warrior (no Shout). Team was:
Arc cast Renewing Rains, Protectga, and then just recast Renewing Rains every time a Megaflare came out.
OK cast VoF, the CSB, Onion Slice, Magic Breakdown and then stuck to pocket healing (didn't need it, really)
Faris and Luneth used their breaks and then waited for OK to start the CSB, at which point they and Cloud did nothing but drop SBs. Dude died with basically only 4 non-SB casts.
EDIT - I was surprised I didn't need Hailstorm or the BSB command 2 to hit it, honestly.
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silence1186Character shields down!As a wingmanRegistered Userregular
At that point recasting the BSB2 might be more damage, because more hits might be better than the USB's ~15% superior multiplier.
At that point recasting the BSB2 might be more damage, because more hits might be better than the USB's ~15% superior multiplier.
Either way it's ridiculous, and I doubt he had too much health left by that point anyway. I wish I had Cloud BSB2 to make him truly overpowered, but I'm still pretty happy to just have the USB. I'm sure I'll figure out some ways to take advantage of it at least a little.
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BeastehTHAT WOULD NOTKILL DRACULARegistered Userregular
Well, after that nightmarish slog through the cm, decided to give him another shot for some orbs with full wind team. 3 bsb 2 casts later, Bahamut fell over.
Hitting for like 35k a hit of bsb2 is kinda stupid, p sure it could be higher too if I used hailstorm or c2, but I was trying to kill him inside of a single wind chain. Don't even know what to do with the other USB charge from the RW.
I should probably give zack's bsb a look next time that rolls around, because giving him something to up the chain aside from aerora strike would be nice, and it would free up zidane for something else.
Apoc Cloud hits like a fucking truck in Limit/Ult Limit Break mode. Tried going in with Protectga and double ATK Breakdown and he was just not having that. Had to bring in Wall RW
Did a 2 man CM jump start. Luneth BSB was doing around 55k per hit, Bahamut went from around 50% to 0. I guess the O in OSB is short for obsolete.
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AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
edited July 2017
A+ Cloud's first attack hit for a cool 4.2k on a back row character.
Then he died since mitigation went up, and he's weak to Dark so Orlandeau BSB had a field day. Got to have Orlandeau run Retaliate too for the first time in a long, long time.
Yeah I REALLY wanted to go Cloud vs Cloud but Blade beam and Cross Slash hurt like fuck
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AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
"Okay, well I fell 3 Major Powers short of enough orbs to craft R2 Powerchain & Full Charge. That's fine, there's a brand new full-sized event tomorrow, that should do it."
SpectrumArcher of InfernoChaldea Rec RoomRegistered Userregular
edited July 2017
Poor Cloud, you have too much useless AoE for your own good.
Setup:
RW Shout
There's nothing to say here. Standard physical A Team, Cloud feeds them too much meter and accelerates the curve. That means I knew I could just spam Lifebane instead of doing the combo rotation and it meant that after the initial SSB2>BSB2 on Lightning, I got a 3rd bar before lightning aura faded for mondo damage. Vanille could also swap to DPS (another 11k+/turn, not nothing) since Y'sh easily had extra meter to Asylum after second Wall. Ate two Ultimate Blade Beams but I suspect if I had used Lightning's 3rd bar for OSB instead of a second BSB2 then it might have killed and even missed the second one.
I don't quite have the full kit, but a 2 Junction level Lowen Roar was doing about 15k damage per hit, so ~75k damage. BSB2 re-entry was barely above that on a per-hit basis for some reason. I can't get a junction 3 lowen roar because of no party powerchain effect but the damage from that would exceed 100k for certain.
In any case, Cloud bit it with two back to back BSB2 entries and he didn't even get a single action off in Ultimate Limit Break mode.
AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
So tomorrow's banner is where I get to say to the game, "Man, it sure would suck if I rolled the unique bottom of the banner relic. Yup. Really suck. I'd be heartbroken."
Minor non-orbfest progress: 200 Bahamut (with CM) and 250 Bahamut mastered without any real difficulty. I also went back to the mote CMs which I hadn't done - FFX is laughable with a) having learned about entrust battery and b) Rikku's BSB CMD1 attacking all targets and all of them vulnerable to interrupt. Just bide time, keep interrupting, while Jecht builds meter, and then hit all three of them with 99,999 damage on successive turns.
FFII CM I can probably do now that I have a burst, but it's remaining a tad elusive. I'll find a team soon enough, I'm sure.
So tomorrow's banner is where I get to say to the game, "Man, it sure would suck if I rolled the unique bottom of the banner relic. Yup. Really suck. I'd be heartbroken."
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get her unbelievable USB instead.
A+ Cloud gets a C-. Flawless victory with Seph (SSB2 x 2, UCloud), Gabranth (BSB x 2), Agrias (Cleansing Strike, BSB), Ramza and Y'shtola. Didn't need UCloud, though the 177k SSB2 entry was amusing. My son kept asking where big chunk of HP bar Cloud had left went, I had to explain it to him. Cloud was easy enough that I could have just as well used a couple of OSB shots, would've ended in the same time.
Darnit, I crafted Omega Drive R2 because I thought this fight might be a challenge. Didn't get around to using it. Guess I'll have to bring it to JS Torment.
So tomorrow's banner is where I get to say to the game, "Man, it sure would suck if I rolled the unique bottom of the banner relic. Yup. Really suck. I'd be heartbroken."
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get her unbelievable USB instead.
It's okay, I keep telling myself that hey, at least it's a 6* healer weapon that I don't have.
So tomorrow's banner is where I get to say to the game, "Man, it sure would suck if I rolled the unique bottom of the banner relic. Yup. Really suck. I'd be heartbroken."
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get her unbelievable USB instead.
are we using unbelivable in the sense that is is unbelievable that a usb could be that bad at this level of power creep?
So tomorrow's banner is where I get to say to the game, "Man, it sure would suck if I rolled the unique bottom of the banner relic. Yup. Really suck. I'd be heartbroken."
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get her unbelievable USB instead.
are we using unbelivable in the sense that is is unbelievable that a usb could be that bad at this level of power creep?
Exactly.
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SpectrumArcher of InfernoChaldea Rec RoomRegistered Userregular
So tomorrow's banner is where I get to say to the game, "Man, it sure would suck if I rolled the unique bottom of the banner relic. Yup. Really suck. I'd be heartbroken."
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get her unbelievable USB instead.
We've been joking/chatting about this in Discord.
I really, really want Minfilia USB.
I am going to see a Disco.
I am going to get my hopes up.
And it is going to be Y'sh garbage USB.
I will grumble and grumble but it is barely on the edge of acceptable as a healer stat-stick and another +10 MND. I will technically have to stop complaining about my non-dupe 6* drought. But I will not be happy.
So tomorrow's banner is where I get to say to the game, "Man, it sure would suck if I rolled the unique bottom of the banner relic. Yup. Really suck. I'd be heartbroken."
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get her unbelievable USB instead.
are we using unbelivable in the sense that is is unbelievable that a usb could be that bad at this level of power creep?
Just how ridiculously powerful do you want a healer with Support 4 and a 35% doublecast LM and Wall and Asylum to be? Should every one of her relics be meta-defining?
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AegisFear My DanceOvershot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered Userregular
It's a matter of degrees. Like, I'm 100% okay with Y'Shtola's LMR being terrible since it's only 5* and you can't win them all. But her USB is a 6* relic and I would prefer the chase relics on a banner not be less powerful than Aetherial Pulse.
a single charge of party dual blink, high regen, and self noncharge 1 is barely ssb tier. rajin's SSB is guts, high regen, and party noncharge 1. i know which one i'd rather use.
it's not instacast, it doesn't heal, it doesn't have hp stock, it's probably the most underbudget sb in years, possibly ever!
I can only think that somehow they value party dual blink way more highly than the players do. I'm not sure why, I guess because stacking dual blink with the appropriate blink for the fight could be potentially super powerful? I fully agree that it is the most underwhelming 6* relic I've ever heard of.
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SpectrumArcher of InfernoChaldea Rec RoomRegistered Userregular
I just don't even know what you'd use her self noncharge 1 on it on. If it's JS you should almost always be casting Wall on Turn 1. So I guess you do this on Turn 2 and Turn 2.5 you do insta-Asylum? And then you pray the battle only takes 20 seconds? I guess if you have Ace Striker on her in a normal battle, get a couple bars, didn't need her for Wall at the start, and needed to get a Shield up to block something and then instantly need a second Shield for right after? Or I guess one 'extra' bar only and your RW is something you needed instacast on reaction. Still really, really fringe cases IMO.
Arc's default SB casts Shell on the party. She is already a 5* White Mage...
To be fair to Arc (who is male), Shellga wasn't originally an option in the game. Also the Shellga default soul breaks are actually some of the better default ones.
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Arc: Protectga/Curaja, Renewing Rains, +MND RM
OK: Magic Breakdown/Curada, VoF/Onion Slice, Thunder God
Faris: Full Break/Didn't Use, Wind Imperil, One-Eye General
Luneth: Armor Breakdown/Didn't Use, BSB, +Dmg RM
Cloud: Didn't use/Didn't Use, USB/BSB2, +Dmg RM (also had +wind armor)
RW: CSB
Arc cast Renewing Rains, Protectga, and then just recast Renewing Rains every time a Megaflare came out.
OK cast VoF, the CSB, Onion Slice, Magic Breakdown and then stuck to pocket healing (didn't need it, really)
Faris and Luneth used their breaks and then waited for OK to start the CSB, at which point they and Cloud did nothing but drop SBs. Dude died with basically only 4 non-SB casts.
EDIT - I was surprised I didn't need Hailstorm or the BSB command 2 to hit it, honestly.
Either way it's ridiculous, and I doubt he had too much health left by that point anyway. I wish I had Cloud BSB2 to make him truly overpowered, but I'm still pretty happy to just have the USB. I'm sure I'll figure out some ways to take advantage of it at least a little.
Seph doing 9999 x5 on command 1 owns
Hitting for like 35k a hit of bsb2 is kinda stupid, p sure it could be higher too if I used hailstorm or c2, but I was trying to kill him inside of a single wind chain. Don't even know what to do with the other USB charge from the RW.
I should probably give zack's bsb a look next time that rolls around, because giving him something to up the chain aside from aerora strike would be nice, and it would free up zidane for something else.
Then he died since mitigation went up, and he's weak to Dark so Orlandeau BSB had a field day. Got to have Orlandeau run Retaliate too for the first time in a long, long time.
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*checks event drops*
Sure, now is when the power orbs vanish :x
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Setup:
RW Shout
There's nothing to say here. Standard physical A Team, Cloud feeds them too much meter and accelerates the curve. That means I knew I could just spam Lifebane instead of doing the combo rotation and it meant that after the initial SSB2>BSB2 on Lightning, I got a 3rd bar before lightning aura faded for mondo damage. Vanille could also swap to DPS (another 11k+/turn, not nothing) since Y'sh easily had extra meter to Asylum after second Wall. Ate two Ultimate Blade Beams but I suspect if I had used Lightning's 3rd bar for OSB instead of a second BSB2 then it might have killed and even missed the second one.
Team Setup:
Squall - BSB2
Y'shtola - Wall + Asylum
Vanille - BSB
Laguna - Freezing Barrage (Imperil Ice)
Ramza - Shout + Chant
I don't quite have the full kit, but a 2 Junction level Lowen Roar was doing about 15k damage per hit, so ~75k damage. BSB2 re-entry was barely above that on a per-hit basis for some reason. I can't get a junction 3 lowen roar because of no party powerchain effect but the damage from that would exceed 100k for certain.
In any case, Cloud bit it with two back to back BSB2 entries and he didn't even get a single action off in Ultimate Limit Break mode.
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FFII CM I can probably do now that I have a burst, but it's remaining a tad elusive. I'll find a team soon enough, I'm sure.
How the fuck?
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll get her unbelievable USB instead.
Darnit, I crafted Omega Drive R2 because I thought this fight might be a challenge. Didn't get around to using it. Guess I'll have to bring it to JS Torment.
I'm pretty sure he meant 2 FFIII people, not 2 people total.
It's okay, I keep telling myself that hey, at least it's a 6* healer weapon that I don't have.
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are we using unbelivable in the sense that is is unbelievable that a usb could be that bad at this level of power creep?
Exactly.
We've been joking/chatting about this in Discord.
I really, really want Minfilia USB.
I am going to see a Disco.
I am going to get my hopes up.
And it is going to be Y'sh garbage USB.
I will grumble and grumble but it is barely on the edge of acceptable as a healer stat-stick and another +10 MND. I will technically have to stop complaining about my non-dupe 6* drought. But I will not be happy.
Just how ridiculously powerful do you want a healer with Support 4 and a 35% doublecast LM and Wall and Asylum to be? Should every one of her relics be meta-defining?
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a single charge of party dual blink, high regen, and self noncharge 1 is barely ssb tier. rajin's SSB is guts, high regen, and party noncharge 1. i know which one i'd rather use.
it's not instacast, it doesn't heal, it doesn't have hp stock, it's probably the most underbudget sb in years, possibly ever!
I mean, okay, yeah it's technically better than Rapha and Marach's default SBs...
It's better than almost all default SBs because most are just marginally better Attack commands with extra long cast time. Or sub 3* spells.
Lenna has an actual relic SB that's just a single target revive. Fuck, I'm not sure it even has a unique animation.
To be fair to Arc (who is male), Shellga wasn't originally an option in the game. Also the Shellga default soul breaks are actually some of the better default ones.
And was impressed by Royal Devotion, existing as it did at a time when Arise did not exist.
40%. You know it happens because he'll immediate heal himself as an interrupt.