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[Phalla] The Colorless - Finale: A Full Palette

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    Hrm... Gizzy was faded out too.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    Hard to tell from the narration if Gizzy was colorless or not though. "Despite Gizzy being taken in..." sounds like yes, but "...the pace of the Colorless advance was not affected" sounds like no.

    How do people feel about the "Mafia can pale people leading the vote to create confusion" theory?

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  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    Whelp, I'm lost.

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  • corvidaecorvidae Registered User regular
    join the crowd.

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  • corvidaecorvidae Registered User regular
    Is the host a valid vote target?

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  • MrBlarneyMrBlarney Registered User regular
    corvidae wrote: »
    Is the host a valid vote target?
    No. If you're talking about this particular host, a vote will be valid when he (I) is a player in a different game.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    edited July 17
    That'd be some "you can just petrify Tiamat to win the fight in one turn in Final Fantasy I"* type shit if a host ran a game where you could vote them out as a hidden wincon. Maybe if the game wanted to have a non-violence theme like Undertale.

    *or cast Cure three times on Dark King in FF Mystic Quest to win the game

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  • LucedesLucedes Yahaha! Registered User regular
    Lucedes.

    Allegiances change, Virgil. Call it betrayal if you want, I call it playing Phalla.
  • LucedesLucedes Yahaha! Registered User regular
    wait, no no no, i can at least vote for LostNinja with a clear conscience.

    Allegiances change, Virgil. Call it betrayal if you want, I call it playing Phalla.
  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Cythraul wrote: »
    Gizzy actually works for me today. If being pale isn't correlated with being mafia (which I don't believe is the case), then maybe HER colour will shed light on things.

    Cythraul
    I don't think we learned anything.
    I believe it was as she had always said, ZH was mafia, she was villager, and we wasted a day's vote.
    And I think we were led to kill her.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited July 17
    Annd Cythraul didn't push the vote on Gizzy the day before.

    I dunno.
    I don't know why we voted Gizzy out.
    ...

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    How many people are left? Would the game be over if we haven't killed mafia yet?

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  • CythraulCythraul Registered User regular
    So if ZH was mafia, and he died just like Gizzy did, do you wanna assume:

    A) she was wrong
    B) they were both mafia
    C) ???

    I'm going with C.

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  • CythraulCythraul Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    How many people are left? Would the game be over if we haven't killed mafia yet?

    Right?!

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  • CythraulCythraul Registered User regular
    So how do you guys wanna proceed? I can see three possibilities (like, for real):

    Gizzy was wrong, ZH was pulling her leg and she fed us incorrect info that she THOUGHT was correct the whole game and now we're screwed?

    Gizzy was right, ZH was mafia and we can't trust any of the results we've seen so far?

    Gizzy was lying and was also mafia, and that the pale are in fact mafia despite narration and seer results suggesting otherwise?

    If it's the first, we're boned. Like, throw in the towel and let's have some cake.
    If it's the second, we're boned. I don't see how we're supposed to solve anything running THIS blind.
    If it's the third, then the last 1-2 mafia are our "seer" and possibly the other person that the seer is claiming came back pale.

    Confusion will be my epitaph
  • Mikey CTSMikey CTS The Fool Registered User regular
    We've already seen that the mafia can play with colors. I'm leaning towards Gizzy was right. I don't think we're screwed, but I think its going to be very hard to win.

    I find your lack of faith disturbing, Cythraul.

    I'd also be fine with kime. Since they were both leading the pack on the Gizzy thing.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Mikey CTS wrote: »
    We've already seen that the mafia can play with colors. .

    You mean the way they kill people?

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  • CythraulCythraul Registered User regular
    edited July 17
    Mikey CTS wrote: »
    We've already seen that the mafia can play with colors.

    ???

    When was this proven? That's basically been what we've been arguing about ALL GAME!

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  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    How many people are left? Would the game be over if we haven't killed mafia yet?

    11 left, starting with 24, so 5? mafia to start, so if we haven't gotten a mafia yet and miss today I would think it's over, still winable is perfect from here on out.

    But between the whole zh/gizzy thing I would expect us to have had to have killed at least one mafia or there are so many crossed wires I don't know where to proceed

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  • Mikey CTSMikey CTS The Fool Registered User regular
    Cythraul wrote: »
    Mikey CTS wrote: »
    We've already seen that the mafia can play with colors.

    ???

    When was this proven? That's basically been what we've been arguing about ALL GAME!

    This is the assumption I've been running with since we first saw a Pale coloration show up.

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  • CythraulCythraul Registered User regular
    You had no issue voting for Gizzy yesterday.

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  • CythraulCythraul Registered User regular
    I have to get back to work here, I'll check in later!

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  • Mikey CTSMikey CTS The Fool Registered User regular
    Cythraul wrote: »
    You had no issue voting for Gizzy yesterday.
    Mikey CTS wrote: »
    The fuck? ... Seriously? Every time I come back from my shiny new game, something bonkers is happening.

    Fine, Gizzy to end this discussion one way or the other.

    This is not "I'm fine with this." This is "we need to end this distraction or we're gonna lose."

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  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    Corvidae, are you a standard seer or a death seer? I'm not sure how this was ever winnable for the village if it's not the latter if we can't trust colors on death.

    I was sure that the faded were our mafia, but with Gizzy showing up that way, I'm not as sure about that now. It's really hard to believe she was mafia given how much work she put in last night with typing out individual vote histories (which I assume we all verified our own) while it was obvious she was going to get voted out and it wouldn't save her.

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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    Going to be honest, totally missed there was a seer call

    There was a seer call?

  • Grunt's GhostsGrunt's Ghosts Registered User regular
    OooooooooooooooooooO

    OooooooooooooooooooO

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    SeGaTai wrote: »
    Going to be honest, totally missed there was a seer call

    There was a seer call?

    The call specifically was something like "Seer says pale != mafia, but Gizzy said it did, therefore Gizzy is probably evil"

    At this point I think we have to accept the fact that our dead list contains death millers*. It seems the most likely scenario, the mafia tag people as being death millers.

    Tomorrow, we either kill a mafia "for sure" and we can update this theory, or we the game continues and the theory is supported, or we lose and :rotate:

    Death millers make things a whole bunch harder. We can't necessarily look at each dead "mafia" and analyze their votes (since they could be village), but on the flipside we have to do it to some degree or we have barely any information :(

    *Death millers are those who are village, but die looking like mafia. It's the most plausible explanation to explain Gizzy's actions imo.

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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    So either the seer is unreliable or Gizzy was embellishing a bit.

  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    So either the seer is unreliable or Gizzy was embellishing a bit.

    Or death millers....

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Not on Any Podcast or Affliated Don't Even Own a MikeRegistered User regular
    Mikey CTS wrote: »
    Cythraul wrote: »
    You had no issue voting for Gizzy yesterday.
    Mikey CTS wrote: »
    The fuck? ... Seriously? Every time I come back from my shiny new game, something bonkers is happening.

    Fine, Gizzy to end this discussion one way or the other.

    This is not "I'm fine with this." This is "we need to end this distraction or we're gonna lose."

    I mean, "This is a useful source of discussion where otherwise people would be saying nothing", that we can use to vet people
    is more how I feel about it.

    The host's response has pretty much confirmed that they wont tell us if narration is useful for finding mafia,
    so we pretty much can't rely on narration unless someone knows what's the deal with color. (mafia or specials)

    Gizzy's death cleared nothing up for me, other than we probably took out a villager, who took out a mafia publicly.

    At a certain point we have to look at what people are saying and decide for ourselves if they are lying.
    That feels like the sole metric we got. So you can disagree with me on if Gizzy was truthful, but I'm leaning the other way.

    Mikey CTS
    for now, for anti-gizzy / anti-discussion

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    OooooooooooooooooooO

    OooooooooooooooooooO

    God damn it I was going to link that exact video if I got killed off. Get out of my head GG! :P

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Not on Any Podcast or Affliated Don't Even Own a MikeRegistered User regular
    Oh, also, sorry for being inactive yesterday.
    Fell asleep and woke up the next day.

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  • corvidaecorvidae Registered User regular
    the cythraul vote is a bad one.

    i'm okay with mikey cts

  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Oh, also, sorry for being inactive yesterday.
    Fell asleep and woke up the next day.

    Sleeping

    Sounds like a mafia trait.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    who needs sleep when you have mocha frappuccinos?

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  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    I was thinking the Cythraul was mafia, but have been less suspicious of them the last couple of days due to activity.

    I haven't formed a solid opinion of Mikey yet either, but have been leaning mafia and am okay with that vote.

    Going to put a vote on Lucedes for now because they've been flying under the radar the past few days after trying too hard on day 2.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Ugh, we have no good leads today.

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  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    LostNinja was my hunch yesterday so I'll put that in, but yea no good leads and its quite possible the mafia are significant enough that I'm skeptical of the most casual of wagon since it's easy for them to float out names and wait for any of them to get some traction

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  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    I think that gives us a three way tie with me, Cythraul, and Mikey all at 2 votes apiece.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    LostNinja wrote: »
    I think that gives us a three way tie with me, Cythraul, and Mikey all at 2 votes apiece.

    :(

    Mikey I guess

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