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Tabata out at SQuenix. [Final Fantasy] XV development to end prematurely (finally?).

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  • CruorCruor Registered User regular
    Cruor wrote: »
    Okay, turns out FFXV can still surprise me after all: mod support is confirmed for PC.

    Now I have to double dip: there is so much potential for amazing, insane, and amazingly insane things that will come from this.

    I wonder if there will be an optimization/compression mod because 170gigs is a tough ask for a single game.

    People are speculating that's just the Windows Store size, which requires you to download extra languages.

    Either way it doesn't matter to me. I've got 4TB for just such occasions.

    Mm, that's somewhat reassuring. I've been meaning to upgrade my storage for a bit, maybe this'll be the thing that makes me actually do it.

  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Do they just store one texture in 4k, then downscale it for everything else? Or have a bunch of different files for each resolution?
    Because if they're separate, I wonder if you could just delete all the texture resolutions you won't be using. 4k is lovely, but I don't have a screen that could handle it, even if my graphics card could (which it can't).

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  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    klemming wrote: »
    Do they just store one texture in 4k, then downscale it for everything else? Or have a bunch of different files for each resolution?
    Because if they're separate, I wonder if you could just delete all the texture resolutions you won't be using. 4k is lovely, but I don't have a screen that could handle it, even if my graphics card could (which it can't).

    They might use multiple resolutions for LoD, so removing textures might not work out.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    That mobile XV looks great. I'll at least check out the first free chapter.

    Cindy and Gladio look horrible.

    Ignis is as cute as ever, though.

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  • heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    No I love triangle man gladio. He's the best.

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  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    Where is this mobile game?

  • WaveformWaveform Registered User regular
    If they put the mobile version of FFXV on Switch I would gladly purchase it and re-play the whole thing. The clean art style and fixed camera means I can actually understand what's going on during battle.

  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    I assume the mobile version is what the Switch will be getting.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    The gameplay in FF12 is fun but just like the original version of the game I just can't get into whatever the plot is supposed to be. It seems so trite and pointless. Along with all six protagonists. And all the NPCs except Larsa.

    I love the world concept, though, and how the game fits into it. I just think FF12 has massive pacing issues with the plot, which is boring anyway.

    Am I being too harsh?

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    heenato wrote: »
    No I love triangle man gladio. He's the best.

    So they are remaking FF7 to de-triangulify the characters and they are remaking FF15 to re-triangulify the characters.

    What a world...

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    The install size for FFXV on PC was apparently a "communications error".

    No confirmation what the actual size will be.

  • CruorCruor Registered User regular
    The install size for FFXV on PC was apparently a "communications error".

    No confirmation what the actual size will be.

    Translation: "It was totally intentional but the reaction has made us go back to figure out how to do compression. We'll let you know the new size when we know it."

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    The install size for FFXV on PC was apparently a "communications error".

    No confirmation what the actual size will be.

    It was actually 170 terabytes.

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  • klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    'Communications error' means they made an error by communicating it. As in, saying what it was.

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  • rpshoggothrpshoggoth Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    The gameplay in FF12 is fun but just like the original version of the game I just can't get into whatever the plot is supposed to be. It seems so trite and pointless. Along with all six protagonists. And all the NPCs except Larsa.

    I love the world concept, though, and how the game fits into it. I just think FF12 has massive pacing issues with the plot, which is boring anyway.

    Am I being too harsh?

    See, for me 12 has my favorite story because it feels the most grounded. A small border nation wedged between 2 larger powers suffers political turmoil as each uses it to further their own agenda. Most villains/antagonists are various shades of grey instead of mustache twirling villains, and even the big bad comes across as intelligent and articulate most of the time.

    I could have done with less Vann and Penelo, but audience surrogate is a time honored trope and jrpg's gonna jrpg.

    It's also the one that feels like it has the most "alive" locations, particularly Rabanastre. Most FF's feel like something I'm passing through on a mad rush to accomplish x/y/z and for the most part only exist as a place to rest and buy stuff. I feel like 12 did the best job of giving me a sense that this is a place that people live and exist, and was here before I got here and will persist after I have passed. ( I understand this is a technical / time / storytelling limitation, and every developer struggles with it, I just feel like 12 did the best job of creating the feeling.)

    I find it roughly analogous to Poland and it's history of getting battered by Austria/Germany and Russo/USSR. I particularly enjoy the historical context framing device of the Marquis voice-overs. I'm a history nerd, though, so I can see how the things I most enjoy about the game might not appeal, or may even be seen as a negative.

    And the super rushed ending is also sad, but real life happens.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    https://youtu.be/Vn6Sy3Xx5Ss

    ....huh.

    Say what you will, it is still supremely cool that all of this additional content remains 100% free.

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    They also confirmed that they will NOT be doing any sequels just stuff like this.

    Which I appreciate. Thank goodness. No more sequels pls.

  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    No sequels, but they'll remake the game at least once before it's a year old.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    rpshoggoth wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    The gameplay in FF12 is fun but just like the original version of the game I just can't get into whatever the plot is supposed to be. It seems so trite and pointless. Along with all six protagonists. And all the NPCs except Larsa.

    I love the world concept, though, and how the game fits into it. I just think FF12 has massive pacing issues with the plot, which is boring anyway.

    Am I being too harsh?

    See, for me 12 has my favorite story because it feels the most grounded. A small border nation wedged between 2 larger powers suffers political turmoil as each uses it to further their own agenda. Most villains/antagonists are various shades of grey instead of mustache twirling villains, and even the big bad comes across as intelligent and articulate most of the time.

    I could have done with less Vann and Penelo, but audience surrogate is a time honored trope and jrpg's gonna jrpg.

    It's also the one that feels like it has the most "alive" locations, particularly Rabanastre. Most FF's feel like something I'm passing through on a mad rush to accomplish x/y/z and for the most part only exist as a place to rest and buy stuff. I feel like 12 did the best job of giving me a sense that this is a place that people live and exist, and was here before I got here and will persist after I have passed. ( I understand this is a technical / time / storytelling limitation, and every developer struggles with it, I just feel like 12 did the best job of creating the feeling.)

    I find it roughly analogous to Poland and it's history of getting battered by Austria/Germany and Russo/USSR. I particularly enjoy the historical context framing device of the Marquis voice-overs. I'm a history nerd, though, so I can see how the things I most enjoy about the game might not appeal, or may even be seen as a negative.

    And the super rushed ending is also sad, but real life happens.

    I cannot fucking stand how they pronounce marquis. I play with subtitles, so I saw it, then heard it, and my brain rebelled.

  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    edited August 2017
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    rpshoggoth wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    The gameplay in FF12 is fun but just like the original version of the game I just can't get into whatever the plot is supposed to be. It seems so trite and pointless. Along with all six protagonists. And all the NPCs except Larsa.

    I love the world concept, though, and how the game fits into it. I just think FF12 has massive pacing issues with the plot, which is boring anyway.

    Am I being too harsh?

    See, for me 12 has my favorite story because it feels the most grounded. A small border nation wedged between 2 larger powers suffers political turmoil as each uses it to further their own agenda. Most villains/antagonists are various shades of grey instead of mustache twirling villains, and even the big bad comes across as intelligent and articulate most of the time.

    I could have done with less Vann and Penelo, but audience surrogate is a time honored trope and jrpg's gonna jrpg.

    It's also the one that feels like it has the most "alive" locations, particularly Rabanastre. Most FF's feel like something I'm passing through on a mad rush to accomplish x/y/z and for the most part only exist as a place to rest and buy stuff. I feel like 12 did the best job of giving me a sense that this is a place that people live and exist, and was here before I got here and will persist after I have passed. ( I understand this is a technical / time / storytelling limitation, and every developer struggles with it, I just feel like 12 did the best job of creating the feeling.)

    I find it roughly analogous to Poland and it's history of getting battered by Austria/Germany and Russo/USSR. I particularly enjoy the historical context framing device of the Marquis voice-overs. I'm a history nerd, though, so I can see how the things I most enjoy about the game might not appeal, or may even be seen as a negative.

    And the super rushed ending is also sad, but real life happens.

    I cannot fucking stand how they pronounce marquis. I play with subtitles, so I saw it, then heard it, and my brain rebelled.

    That's a legit pronunciation though..

    It looks like the kwis pronunciation is actually specifically the UK way to say it so saying it any other way with the accents would have been less correct.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    They also stated that they aren't going to take down nude mods for the PC version, stating that they want to leave it to the discretion of the players.

    Which is a really great response considering A) it would be pointless to police it, since you won't be able to catch it all and B) 99% of nude mods look like shit anyway.

    I'll be much more interested in any mod that modifies Cindy to be more reasonably clothed (and, as a result, actually attractive).

  • rpshoggothrpshoggoth Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I cannot fucking stand how they pronounce marquis. I play with subtitles, so I saw it, then heard it, and my brain rebelled.

    I think it's actually a correct pronunciation.

    Kind of like how we conflate the Italian (for tay : loud) and French (fort : thing you are good at) words forte'

    Or ask aks, etc.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    rpshoggoth wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    The gameplay in FF12 is fun but just like the original version of the game I just can't get into whatever the plot is supposed to be. It seems so trite and pointless. Along with all six protagonists. And all the NPCs except Larsa.

    I love the world concept, though, and how the game fits into it. I just think FF12 has massive pacing issues with the plot, which is boring anyway.

    Am I being too harsh?

    See, for me 12 has my favorite story because it feels the most grounded. A small border nation wedged between 2 larger powers suffers political turmoil as each uses it to further their own agenda. Most villains/antagonists are various shades of grey instead of mustache twirling villains, and even the big bad comes across as intelligent and articulate most of the time.

    I could have done with less Vann and Penelo, but audience surrogate is a time honored trope and jrpg's gonna jrpg.

    It's also the one that feels like it has the most "alive" locations, particularly Rabanastre. Most FF's feel like something I'm passing through on a mad rush to accomplish x/y/z and for the most part only exist as a place to rest and buy stuff. I feel like 12 did the best job of giving me a sense that this is a place that people live and exist, and was here before I got here and will persist after I have passed. ( I understand this is a technical / time / storytelling limitation, and every developer struggles with it, I just feel like 12 did the best job of creating the feeling.)

    I find it roughly analogous to Poland and it's history of getting battered by Austria/Germany and Russo/USSR. I particularly enjoy the historical context framing device of the Marquis voice-overs. I'm a history nerd, though, so I can see how the things I most enjoy about the game might not appeal, or may even be seen as a negative.

    And the super rushed ending is also sad, but real life happens.

    I cannot fucking stand how they pronounce marquis. I play with subtitles, so I saw it, then heard it, and my brain rebelled.

    MAR-key is the French pronunciation.
    MAR-kwess is the English pronunciation. It's often spelled "marquess" in English language, even.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    https://youtu.be/Vn6Sy3Xx5Ss

    ....huh.

    Say what you will, it is still supremely cool that all of this additional content remains 100% free.

    Second Assassin's Creed collaboration huh?

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    Well we don't exactly have a Mana thread so...

    https://youtu.be/kKHjcnOGPhs

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Interesting. The original is an old favorite of mine, so I'm intrigued. I wonder how the story or gameplay will change. if I remember correctly, the story is that they couldn't include everything they wanted in the original game due to the plans for the Nintendo Play Station falling through. So it'd be interesting if they added old ideas to this remake. But I'm getting ahead of myself. I hope it plays well. Randi's VA seems good.

    I hope this leads to a similar remake of SD3.

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  • ZundeZunde Registered User regular
    Oh my god i need that secret of mana in my life.

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  • Kai_SanKai_San Commonly known as Klineshrike! Registered User regular
    I needed some kind of gameplay in that to be excited. The team that does the mana games had such a huge shift in mentality and honestly I thought it was worse basically after SD3. Even the remake of the original game which is one of my personal favorite games of all time (it was literally my gateway into actual RPGS) was changed drastically and was the closest thing they made to one of their old school games in a while.

    If they keep it somewhat faithful then I am on board. If they do all sorts of radical things and it doesn't feel the same then I don't think I could be hyped. And since just releasing what SoM was outright just wouldn't fly as a game in this age, it is likely the latter. I just don't trust them to do something amazing like that again.

    I should be like super excited for an announcement like that, but I'm not -_-

  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    I never played the original Secret of Mana. It was always that one classic SNES Square game I had put off for several years without ever getting to it.

    Wonder if I should wait for the remake. It's not the best art style, but if it means a better localization and modernized design elements, that might be the one I finally experienced.

    Also, I've got a spare NA code for the Dissidia closed beta. Send a PM if you want it, though keep in mind you can't redeem it until the beta goes up (which won't be until Friday at midnight).

  • heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    I just finished FF15! Hoo boy. That's the FIXED version of chapter 13?!

    In the end, my feelings on it are a bit mixed. The first half of the game was a hoot. At first I thought there were too many damn sidequests, but seeing now as that's the brunt of the game, that's fine (Though the sidequests ruining the level curve wasnt) the second half...is kinda a mess, yeah. I didn't exactly hate it, and just powered through it, but felt myself wanting to just go back to the open world.

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  • LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    heenato wrote: »
    I just finished FF15! Hoo boy. That's the FIXED version of chapter 13?!

    In the end, my feelings on it are a bit mixed. The first half of the game was a hoot. At first I thought there were too many damn sidequests, but seeing now as that's the brunt of the game, that's fine (Though the sidequests ruining the level curve wasnt) the second half...is kinda a mess, yeah. I didn't exactly hate it, and just powered through it, but felt myself wanting to just go back to the open world.

    How did you feel about the actual ending? (Not considering the content running up to the actual ending.)

  • heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    I thought it was pretty good. It had closure and all that.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Offering my NA beta code for Dissidia one more time here, otherwise I'll hand it off to someone in another forum.

  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    Offering my NA beta code for Dissidia one more time here, otherwise I'll hand it off to someone in another forum.

    I'll give it a shot if someone else hasn't asked for it already.

  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    Dammit should've sent the PM

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Sent to Renzo. Sorry lionheart.

    I had this offer up all day yesterday too. This thread really moves slowly these days.

  • QanamilQanamil x Registered User regular
    Had a hell of a time getting the chest with Wither to spawn in FFXII, was super annoying. Just now I was able to get all the rare chests (ranging from 10 to 25%, not including the ultra rare) in Henne Mines though so thanks game sorry for thinking mean thoughts earlier.

    I've enjoyed the game, but the back end is pretty eh. Particularly the endless running around for hunts, abilities, etc.

  • BeezelBeezel There was no agreement little morsel..Registered User regular
    I always found in weird that all of FFXV's combat utility was piled onto one bro considering events that happened the way they happened. Like why does Prompto have a taunt that when used, makes him explode a second after as he's ripped apart by mobs? Why does the "tank" dude not have a taunt? stupid shit like that. Starshard should've had the taunt aspect removed and in addition to debuffing demons, made it so you didn't lose gray health during demon encounters for the duration or something. Big big shirtless Ron a taunt off his aoe attack. I don't even know why I'm thinking about this so long after the fact.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    But Starshell doesn't taunt? Gladiolus' main job is to protect Noctis and he has an ability that takes damage in place of him.

  • BeezelBeezel There was no agreement little morsel..Registered User regular
    huh! I could've sworn it was a taunt of some sort based on the wording along with the regular debuff.

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