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It's a [Doom/Quake]! id Software's Classic Legacy of Eternal Carnage

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited June 2019
    So apparently there's a spoiler floating around from the opening custscene of Youngblood that details something major that happens in-between New Collossus and Youngblood. Major spoilers below, along with a bunch of speculation.
    BJ has already killed Hitler by the time Youngblood starts.

    This makes me think one of two things are happening.

    1. The Nazis managed to preserve Hitlers head and slap it onto a mech body (or they just flat out clone him), which will get discovered in Youngblood and lead into a Wolfenstein 3 where old BJ has to take on the Nazis one last time.

    2. The plot of Youngblood involves the Nazi's trying to build a time travel device to go back and save Hitler and the girls can't stop it in time so the only thing they can do is to send something back in time (themselves, some important info, some kind of super advanced nazi weapon) in order to try and balance out whatever the Nazis send back, and Wolfenstein 3 takes place in the past where BJ's mission to kill Hitler goes awry due to these time travel shenanigans.

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  • Lord_MordjaLord_Mordja Registered User regular
    Head's up, Amid Evil is properly out, is very good.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBlTTW3RRtw

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    Quite enjoying Amid Evil! Encountered an interesting thing.
    The "rocket launcher" or celestial claw appears to shoot planets. Each time you equip it you get a different orb/planet. I didn't see it, but apparently I shot Earth and exploded it. Then a message appeared on screen that said "Uh...you just blew up Earth."

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  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    TelMarine wrote: »
    Quite enjoying Amid Evil! Encountered an interesting thing.
    The "rocket launcher" or celestial claw appears to shoot planets. Each time you equip it you get a different orb/planet. I didn't see it, but apparently I shot Earth and exploded it. Then a message appeared on screen that said "Uh...you just blew up Earth."

    Yeah I watched a video review and they mentioned that. I'm swaying on buying this or not. One the one hand, I do love me an oldschool shooter. On the other, I do like the progress that's been made since those games.

  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    One minor criticism I have so far would be monster idle noise. I'm only on the 2nd episode, but when we think about all the shooters this game is based on, those idle noises are so atmospheric and iconic , to me at least. Like I think of the Vore from Quake1 idle sound:

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/7YFF8eh2uqY?start=118&end=120

    Actually, a lot of the Quake1 monster idle sounds are great. Again though, minor criticism. Really having fun with it. Would be great to have Deathmatch.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited June 2019
    I only played the first level (think I'm going to restart on a harder difficulty) but my thoughts so far

    1. This feels like a Quake style game with a medivial fantasy skin, rather that the heretic style game it was touted as. (It sounds like I'm splitting hairs, but those games have very different feels)
    2. Monster design is horribly bland. They're all the same vague armored monster dude. (Only this one has wings and this one is taller with a big sword)

    I think I'd be more down with this if I hadn't just played through Blood and if Dusk hadn't come out last year. This is like a less interesting Dusk.

    Like I said, I only played the first level. Hopefully the game will pick up when I get back to it.

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    I only played the first level (think I'm going to restart on a harder difficulty) but my thoughts so far

    1. This feels like a Quake style game with a medivial fantasy skin, rather that the heretic style game it was touted as. (It sounds like I'm splitting hairs, but those games have very different feels)
    2. Monster design is horribly bland. They're all the same vague armored monster dude. (Only this one has wings and this one is taller with a big sword)

    I think I'd be more down with this if I hadn't just played through Blood and if Dusk hadn't come out last year. This is like a less interesting Dusk.

    Like I said, I only played the first level. Hopefully the game will pick up when I get back to it.

    I would agree with that so far. It seems that each episode has different enemies, but it would be better if they mixed and matched them. Maybe that happens in later episodes.

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    edited June 2019
    I just found a secret level
    It's behind the portal for the "Sacred Path". It's in the water to the left of the portal, you have to dive down. An old, classic, frequently used Easter Egg shows up followed by a bizarre "boss" battle.

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    I also recommend finding "Evil" difficulty. The first 2 episodes I completed on "Hard", they were a bit too easy for me. I'm finding "Evil" is a lot better.

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  • BlueshiftBlueshift Registered User regular
    Of all the people to make that series! How bizarre

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  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    New event coming for Rage 2. The description sounds like they might be putting a few Doom demons in special missions.
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  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular

    Could be good, but I feel like the odds are strong this is going to be a fiasco, aping some sort of Halt and Catch Fire imagery with awkward Mad Men pretentions.

  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular


    Are we believing the lore in this one?

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    It’s kind of shocking how far that image is from any traditional Doom imagery while simultaneously totally nailing it.

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  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    Kinda feels like Doomguy fell into Heretic land

    Even looks like a rune you’d see

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Kinda feels like Doomguy fell into Heretic land

    Even looks like a rune you’d see

    I mean it's the rune on his helmet so

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  • MonwynMonwyn Apathy's a tragedy, and boredom is a crime. A little bit of everything, all of the time.Registered User regular
    Golden Yak wrote: »


    Are we believing the lore in this one?

    That picture is actually Just Warhammer 40k with the Doom Slayer sigil instead of the mark of Khorne

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    Kinda feels like Doomguy fell into Heretic land

    Even looks like a rune you’d see

    One could make a venn diagram of Doom, Quake 1, and Heretic pretty easily. Maybe more than thar but those three do form a certain foundation when it comes to FPS games that exist on their own terms and do not involve events like world wars or roswell or whatever

  • Jeep-EepJeep-Eep Registered User regular
    Kinda feels like Doomguy fell into Heretic land

    Even looks like a rune you’d see

    One could make a venn diagram of Doom, Quake 1, and Heretic pretty easily. Maybe more than thar but those three do form a certain foundation when it comes to FPS games that exist on their own terms and do not involve events like world wars or roswell or whatever

    God, I wish Id would get access to the Heretic IP again.

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Jeep-Eep wrote: »
    Kinda feels like Doomguy fell into Heretic land

    Even looks like a rune you’d see

    One could make a venn diagram of Doom, Quake 1, and Heretic pretty easily. Maybe more than thar but those three do form a certain foundation when it comes to FPS games that exist on their own terms and do not involve events like world wars or roswell or whatever

    God, I wish Id would get access to the Heretic IP again.

    Heretic and Hexen were so good. I should pick up Amid Evil, it kinda looks like if Quake and Heretic had a baby.

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    Jeep-Eep wrote: »
    Kinda feels like Doomguy fell into Heretic land

    Even looks like a rune you’d see

    One could make a venn diagram of Doom, Quake 1, and Heretic pretty easily. Maybe more than thar but those three do form a certain foundation when it comes to FPS games that exist on their own terms and do not involve events like world wars or roswell or whatever

    God, I wish Id would get access to the Heretic IP again.

    Honestly odds are a lot stronger they make a new IP that’s Heretic in all but name. All this pivoting to include Heaven and the realm of D’Argent seems like it could be a means to lead into that sort of spinoff territory. That’s raw speculation on my part of course.

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  • redundant_pairingredundant_pairing Registered User regular
    Jeep-Eep wrote: »
    Kinda feels like Doomguy fell into Heretic land

    Even looks like a rune you’d see

    One could make a venn diagram of Doom, Quake 1, and Heretic pretty easily. Maybe more than thar but those three do form a certain foundation when it comes to FPS games that exist on their own terms and do not involve events like world wars or roswell or whatever

    God, I wish Id would get access to the Heretic IP again.

    Honestly odds are a lot stronger they make a new IP that’s Heretic in all but name. All this pivoting to include Heaven and the realm of D’Argent seems like it could be a means to lead into that sort of spinoff territory. That’s raw speculation on my part of course.

    They can easily meld Doom, Heretic, and even Quake together, they've all had some sort of mix before.

  • GrimthwackerGrimthwacker Registered User regular
    Jeep-Eep wrote: »
    Kinda feels like Doomguy fell into Heretic land

    Even looks like a rune you’d see

    One could make a venn diagram of Doom, Quake 1, and Heretic pretty easily. Maybe more than thar but those three do form a certain foundation when it comes to FPS games that exist on their own terms and do not involve events like world wars or roswell or whatever

    God, I wish Id would get access to the Heretic IP again.

    Honestly odds are a lot stronger they make a new IP that’s Heretic in all but name. All this pivoting to include Heaven and the realm of D’Argent seems like it could be a means to lead into that sort of spinoff territory. That’s raw speculation on my part of course.

    They can easily meld Doom, Heretic, and even Quake together, they've all had some sort of mix before.

    You mean id Software presents Samsara? :P I'd be down for that!

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    Rage 2 is getting new game+ this month. Woo time to tear up the watseland good and proper.

  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    I swear that ‘story trailer’ I’ve seen floating around for Eternal has a human wizard in it.

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited July 2019
    Tim Willits (who had been stuy id since 1995) is leaving after Quakecon this year.



    I'd be curious to see who is the eldest statesman at id now.

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  • Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    24 years. Man, you know that guy has been through some shit. Very cool to see such a long continuous career in what can be such a volatile industry.

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    Tim Willits (who had been stuy id since 1995) is leaving after Quakecon this year.



    I'd be curious to see who is the eldest statesman at id now.

    I think Kevin Cloud is the only original member left now.

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  • jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Tim Willits (who had been stuy id since 1995) is leaving after Quakecon this year.



    I'd be curious to see who is the eldest statesman at id now.

    Kevin Cloud was the elder statesman before Willits left and he's still there.

  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    Man. This may not be the MOST apt comparison, but beyond id Software the only group I can think of where the OGs are known to me is Nintendo.

    I really need to learn who is involved in current id these days.

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    Pretty sure Quake Champions broke Willits.

    Well I wonder what he’ll do now. Relax in retirement? Join or start a new company?

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  • PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    ...Oh bloody crap, I forgot that Youngblood drops today.

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  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    Axen wrote: »
    Pretty sure Quake Champions broke Willits.

    Well I wonder what he’ll do now. Relax in retirement? Join or start a new company?

    That game annoys me because as an arena shooter it’s super awesome but the engine sucks, Bethesda just had to shoehorn a micro transaction store into it, and the idea to copy Overwatches champion system just wasn’t a good idea.

    Under those bad decisions there’s a fantastic arena shooter that no one plays.

  • JMan711JMan711 6'8" weighs a f*&#ing ton He's coming, he's coming, he's comingRegistered User regular
    edited July 2019
    Quakecon is this weekend and a Doom Eternal panel is about to be live streamed.
    So it looks like this was just a retrospective on the History of Doom with a select group of developers from over the years. Tomorrow morning at 9am PST they will have a panel going more into DOOM Eternal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvQrDFcDHAE

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    JMan711 wrote: »
    Quakecon is this weekend and a Doom Eternal panel is about to be live streamed.
    So it looks like this was just a retrospective on the History of Doom with a select group of developers from over the years. Tomorrow morning at 9am PST they will have a panel going more into DOOM Eternal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvQrDFcDHAE

    Apparently they just released Doom 1, 2 and 3 on PS4, Xbox One and Switch; and Doom 1/2 on mobile.

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  • JMan711JMan711 6'8" weighs a f*&#ing ton He's coming, he's coming, he's comingRegistered User regular
    Also I just checked and if you go to about the 40 minute mark of the video I posted they show off a new enemy and go into more detail on Battlemode.

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