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[Kingdom Hearts] Melody of Melancholy

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    Moth 13Moth 13 Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    I looked up the Master of Masters and boy I hope there's a reveal of what they actually look like cause I'm getting real tired of the Organization coat

    I am so glad (stuff from latest KH3 trailer)
    the Xehanorts all get into cool new armor for what looks like the final battle because yeah, those coats have worn out their welcome.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    All right. 0.2 is done. Now I am ready. For this nonsense to be pumped straight into my veins.

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
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    My favorite thing in this game is how Maleficent is just too goddamn evil to be corrupted by darkness.

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    NeveronNeveron HellValleySkyTree SwedenRegistered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    Viskod wrote: »
    Its Kingdom Hearts the story is literally whatever from second to second. They can go anywhere and do anything at any instant. We can think its coming to a close and then SUDDENLY! ALL OF THIS STUFF! and then 20 more years of games.

    Wow, as much as one new game huh

    kingdom hearts 3 is actually kingdom hearts 9ish

    I think

    so 20 years of story would be ten or so new games, perhaps

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
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    Neveron wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Viskod wrote: »
    Its Kingdom Hearts the story is literally whatever from second to second. They can go anywhere and do anything at any instant. We can think its coming to a close and then SUDDENLY! ALL OF THIS STUFF! and then 20 more years of games.

    Wow, as much as one new game huh

    kingdom hearts 3 is actually kingdom hearts 9ish

    I think

    so 20 years of story would be ten or so new games, perhaps

    Chi, BBS, KH1, CoM, Days, KH2, Coded, 3D, KH3.

    The math checks out, and that's skipping over A Fragmentary Passage too.

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    SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
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    Well, Maleficent is THE TRUUUUUUUUEEE DARRRKNESSSS (tm).

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I like how she’s such a supernaturally evil force that just remembering she ever existed was enough for her to crawl back out of Hell, none the worse for wear. Fairies, man...

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Pete is either going to talk Malificent into grudgingly helping team Sora in this game or will betray her to save them at some point in KH3, I guarantee.

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
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    Didn't she already help save the world in KH2?

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Yeah but I don't remember if she was aware she was helping Sora there or not. She wasn't a fan of Org.13 in that game.

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    turtleant wrote: »
    Yeah but I don't remember if she was aware she was helping Sora there or not. She wasn't a fan of Org.13 in that game.

    She creates a firewall to protect Sora and Co. from the Nobodies and creates a portal to help them escape

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    She very intentionally fights off a bunch of Heartless to let Sora go after Xemnas.

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
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    It was a "But really, fuck that guy." scenario.

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    DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
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    Neveron wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Viskod wrote: »
    Its Kingdom Hearts the story is literally whatever from second to second. They can go anywhere and do anything at any instant. We can think its coming to a close and then SUDDENLY! ALL OF THIS STUFF! and then 20 more years of games.

    Wow, as much as one new game huh

    kingdom hearts 3 is actually kingdom hearts 9ish

    I think

    so 20 years of story would be ten or so new games, perhaps

    Yea but there's a very clear difference between the mainline games and most of the other games.

    They put important bits of the story in there but almost all of those are smaller games with alternate playstyles and game systems and clearly much smaller budgets.

    So it's easy to see the separation between those and the mainline games.

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
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    Neveron wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Viskod wrote: »
    Its Kingdom Hearts the story is literally whatever from second to second. They can go anywhere and do anything at any instant. We can think its coming to a close and then SUDDENLY! ALL OF THIS STUFF! and then 20 more years of games.

    Wow, as much as one new game huh

    kingdom hearts 3 is actually kingdom hearts 9ish

    I think

    so 20 years of story would be ten or so new games, perhaps

    Yea but there's a very clear difference between the mainline games and most of the other games.

    They put important bits of the story in there but almost all of those are smaller games with alternate playstyles and game systems and clearly much smaller budgets.

    So it's easy to see the separation between those and the mainline games.

    BBS and 3D were full KH games.

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    lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
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    I hate you YouTube and your stupid algorithm. I better avoid it for like 3 weeks because KH3 spoilers are starting to invade my timeline.

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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
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    I've only played 1, 2, and part of BBS. Does Maleficent ever reach the villain heights she had in 1? It seems like they put her on the backburner of villany with Pete and she's just "there" but not really a threat to anyone.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
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    Neveron wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Viskod wrote: »
    Its Kingdom Hearts the story is literally whatever from second to second. They can go anywhere and do anything at any instant. We can think its coming to a close and then SUDDENLY! ALL OF THIS STUFF! and then 20 more years of games.

    Wow, as much as one new game huh

    kingdom hearts 3 is actually kingdom hearts 9ish

    I think

    so 20 years of story would be ten or so new games, perhaps

    I was using hyperbole, but if you don't count 0.2 or X (chi? ki?) it HAS been 7 years since the last one.

    I'm sure we're not at the end of mobile games, but there's like... no handheld consoles anymore. There's the Switch but, practically, it's not being treated like a handheld by mainstream publishers.

    I could maybe see the next game come out at like, the tail end of next generation. In 9 years or so.

    I could also see Tetsuya Nomura deciding he's done and future games being handled by other people.

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    lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
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    I would love DDD to appear on the Switch.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
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    Viskod wrote: »
    I've only played 1, 2, and part of BBS. Does Maleficent ever reach the villain heights she had in 1? It seems like they put her on the backburner of villany with Pete and she's just "there" but not really a threat to anyone.

    Maleficent and Pete in KH2 are very much Rita Repulsa and Goldar and I love it. Which makes Organization XIII the Machine Empire, for those following along.

    Though I like less that they sidelined every other Disney villain, only having Hades and Oogie Boogie show up in their respective levels as a local boss (and Ursula for a song), and having Agrabah being all about how Jafar coming back would be bad but you don't actually even see Jafar.

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    masterofmetroidmasterofmetroid Have you ever looked at a world and seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered User regular
    Nomura could always take a break from KH to give us the World Ends With You sequel that keeps getting hinted at

    ...Yeah i don't really believe that one either

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    Mobile devices are powerful enough that you can make those handheld games for iOS and Android now

    also please let Nomura go cause I would like these games to not take 9 years apiece

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
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    I would love DDD to appear on the Switch.

    I would not in the slightest be surprised to see the complete collection at least and maybe a KH3 port show up on the Switch in a year or so.

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    I'm trying to think of what I consider the "Kingdom Hearts traditions" (at least for the console games) that I would be disappointed to not see in 3

    - core Final Fantasy crew of Squall, Yuffie, Aeris, Cid, and Cloud
    - completely nonviolent Hundred-Acre Wood world
    - optional Sephiroth boss fight
    - nobody tells Sora anything he needs to know until well after it would've been useful
    - Axel dies

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
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    Olympus Colisseum fights

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    EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
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    But most importantly, having Danny DeVito tell you in no uncertain terms that you're not a real hero

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
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    Mr. G wrote: »
    I'm trying to think of what I consider the "Kingdom Hearts traditions" (at least for the console games) that I would be disappointed to not see in 3

    - core Final Fantasy crew of Squall, Yuffie, Aeris, Cid, and Cloud
    - completely nonviolent Hundred-Acre Wood world
    - optional Sephiroth boss fight
    - nobody tells Sora anything he needs to know until well after it would've been useful
    - Axel dies

    Don't forget incredibly awkward comic relief, somebody saying "Sora, Donald, Goofy!" once per world, and *rolls dice* Vanellope takes a god damn sword through the gut

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    EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
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    Also some kind of weird combat sport with other kids your age, can't forget the combat sports

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    But most importantly, having Danny DeVito tell you in no uncertain terms that you're not a real hero

    ooh can't forget "being real uncomfortable with how much you're enjoying James Woods' performance"

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
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    also everybody wants you to skateboard

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    SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
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    Also some kind of weird combat sport with other kids your age, can't forget the combat sports
    SimBen wrote: »
    also everybody wants you to skateboard
    I think we'll probably get some hybrid of this in KH3.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    SimBen wrote: »
    Viskod wrote: »
    I've only played 1, 2, and part of BBS. Does Maleficent ever reach the villain heights she had in 1? It seems like they put her on the backburner of villany with Pete and she's just "there" but not really a threat to anyone.

    Maleficent and Pete in KH2 are very much Rita Repulsa and Goldar and I love it. Which makes Organization XIII the Machine Empire, for those following along.

    Though I like less that they sidelined every other Disney villain, only having Hades and Oogie Boogie show up in their respective levels as a local boss (and Ursula for a song), and having Agrabah being all about how Jafar coming back would be bad but you don't actually even see Jafar.

    Yes you do. I can’t remember if it’s the first run or the revisit, but Genie Jafar is the final boss of Agrabah in KH2.

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    EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
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    Sorce wrote: »
    Also some kind of weird combat sport with other kids your age, can't forget the combat sports
    SimBen wrote: »
    also everybody wants you to skateboard
    I think we'll probably get some hybrid of this in KH3.

    I would welcome that! I think the skateboarding in 2 is perfectly serviceable and even kind of fun!

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    DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
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    LD50 wrote: »
    Neveron wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Viskod wrote: »
    Its Kingdom Hearts the story is literally whatever from second to second. They can go anywhere and do anything at any instant. We can think its coming to a close and then SUDDENLY! ALL OF THIS STUFF! and then 20 more years of games.

    Wow, as much as one new game huh

    kingdom hearts 3 is actually kingdom hearts 9ish

    I think

    so 20 years of story would be ten or so new games, perhaps

    Yea but there's a very clear difference between the mainline games and most of the other games.

    They put important bits of the story in there but almost all of those are smaller games with alternate playstyles and game systems and clearly much smaller budgets.

    So it's easy to see the separation between those and the mainline games.

    BBS and 3D were full KH games.

    I did say most specifically for that reason!

    That said before they had regular console releases the fact that they were on portable systems lessened even their impact for many.

    I played 3D on portable and wish I had just waited for the inevitable console version because it really detracted from the experience and made the game still not really feel like a full game.

    And even on a console I'd say it's still a much smaller experience then the mainline games. So maybe it's like .75 of a full KH game.

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
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    Enlong wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Viskod wrote: »
    I've only played 1, 2, and part of BBS. Does Maleficent ever reach the villain heights she had in 1? It seems like they put her on the backburner of villany with Pete and she's just "there" but not really a threat to anyone.

    Maleficent and Pete in KH2 are very much Rita Repulsa and Goldar and I love it. Which makes Organization XIII the Machine Empire, for those following along.

    Though I like less that they sidelined every other Disney villain, only having Hades and Oogie Boogie show up in their respective levels as a local boss (and Ursula for a song), and having Agrabah being all about how Jafar coming back would be bad but you don't actually even see Jafar.

    Yes you do. I can’t remember if it’s the first run or the revisit, but Genie Jafar is the final boss of Agrabah in KH2.

    Oh I forgot there's a revisit later on. I'm up to the first visit to Halloween Town (I made it 99% of the way through the game about 8 years ago).

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    SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
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    Sorce wrote: »
    Also some kind of weird combat sport with other kids your age, can't forget the combat sports
    SimBen wrote: »
    also everybody wants you to skateboard
    I think we'll probably get some hybrid of this in KH3.

    I would welcome that! I think the skateboarding in 2 is perfectly serviceable and even kind of fun!

    I think the only saving grace of the skateboarding is that the Jiminy objectives for it are really easy.

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    the handheld games have been able to recreate the feel of KH1, but they don't come close to 2

    both Birth By Sleep and Dream Drop Distance feel like steps down from 2, and while they're certainly better than 1, they don't come close to the feel of 2 for me

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
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    Mr. G wrote: »
    the handheld games have been able to recreate the feel of KH1, but they don't come close to 2

    both Birth By Sleep and Dream Drop Distance feel like steps down from 2, and while they're certainly better than 1, they don't come close to the feel of 2 for me

    I think 2 has the worst gameplay of all the games, so this is a good thing. I don't think any of the games have topped BBS for me gameplay-wise.

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
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    Here is a question:

    Why does 3D restrict what I can name my Dream Eaters? The game isn't even online.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    LD50 wrote: »
    Here is a question:

    Why does 3D restrict what I can name my Dream Eaters? The game isn't even online.

    Just a guess, but the 3DS version has a feature where you can use Streetpass to leave special portals for other players. I think your names are used there?

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