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[Kingdom Hearts] Reconnect.

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Not on Any Podcast or Affliated Don't Even Own a MikeRegistered User regular
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    I'll be honest, I don't remember Sanctuary at all

    oh hey, I looked it up.

    I do remember this
    "Mumblemuble sephiroth
    Angels and Fries

    My Sanctuary
    My Sanctuary"

    song. It's alright

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
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    who hears night on bald mountain and doesn't instantly think of that part of fantasia???

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
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    That's assuming I recognize I'm hearing Night on Bald Mountain.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
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    the very start of it is the most memorable part!

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  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
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    Oh I know I'll realize the sound is familiar, but that means nothing to actually identifying the name of said song.

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  • never dienever die Registered User regular
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    The first KH game I played was II. I was real confused when the game
    ignored Roxas after the first couple of hours, and how much of a fucking depressing his ending is for that game overall. I was real confused at what I thought was the main character got completely used up and tossed aside for some fucking dope in big shoes.

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
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    who hears night on bald mountain and doesn't instantly think of that part of fantasia???

    Kingdom Hearts may be the only place I've heard it

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    I get that Ansem and the 4 other Ansems have become like the backbone of the plot

    but KH1 would probably have been a better story if the villain was just Riku

    He was bored and sold out everyone he ever knew so he could have an adventure

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  • PiotyrPiotyr Registered User regular
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    Mr. G wrote: »
    I get that Ansem and the 4 other Ansems have become like the backbone of the plot

    but KH1 would probably have been a better story if the villain was just Riku

    He was bored and sold out everyone he ever knew so he could have an adventure

    The Sora-Riku-Kairi section in Hollow Bastion is the best bit of KH1 easily, and one of the high points of the series plot.

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
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    Mr. G wrote: »
    I get that Ansem and the 4 other Ansems have become like the backbone of the plot

    but KH1 would probably have been a better story if the villain was just Riku

    He was bored and sold out everyone he ever knew so he could have an adventure

    Riku's middle school reasoning for hating on Sora in KH1 is perfect. "What, he's cool now? I'm the cool one, HOW DARE HE?"

    "What, he has different friends now? I'm his only friend, dammit I HATE HIM."

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I kinda like how Ansem's "take a look at this tiny place" speech, which obviously refers to Riku, eventually is revealed to also perfectly describe himself.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
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    who hears night on bald mountain and doesn't instantly think of that part of fantasia???

    Kingdom Hearts may be the only place I've heard it

    You should watch Fantasia, it's good

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
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    Yeah the little bit about
    Xehanort also being from the islands was pretty good, and Riku was the same, which is why Ansem targeted him. Sora is the only reason he didn't succeed

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  • Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
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    Chain of Memories is Good, Actually.

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    Finished KH1

    I still deeply, deeply love the great atrocity that is Mickey Mouse in this series, where he is made into the ultimate badass wizard-warrior that always has potent wisdom to offer and says it in the voice of Mickey Mouse

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
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    Making Mickey Mouse a fucking badass is like, the weirdest thing

    But I still remember watching the secret ending videos to KH1 back when it came out and seeing that shot of Mickey in the rain with his keyblade and thinking "OH SHIT"

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    Making Mickey Mouse a fucking badass is like, the weirdest thing

    But I still remember watching the secret ending videos to KH1 back when it came out and seeing that shot of Mickey in the rain with his keyblade and thinking "OH SHIT"

    On paper it is among the stupidest things in the history of fiction

    But, like most things in this series, it works?

    Kingdom Hearts has this David Lynch quality where you experience it and go "my brain knows several aspects of this are poorly done, the performances are wooden and the dialogue is a bunch of nonsense as is the story" but it still gets through to you on an emotional level

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  • SorceSorce Registered User regular
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    And the emotional beats fuckin' work. Like in KH2 when you think Goofy is dead; there's no way in hell Disney would let one of their main characters die (especially in a kids game!). Hell, I barely used him, but in that moment, I was enraged and I killed all the motherfuckers.

    Then he wasn't dead, and WOOO~!

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    Ehhhhh, I dunno if I'm gonna play Re:Chain of Memories

    It's really neat that they remade it and put voice acting in (very convenient they can just reuse a bunch of KH1 assets), but it seems pretty long and the vast majority of it is filler KH1 retreading

    I'll watch a cutscene compilation and move on to either 2 or Birth By Sleep, dunno which one I'll do first

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Actually, a fair bit of it is reused KH2 assets, for the in-battle voice clips from Sora.

    The one thing that's recycled from KH1 is him shouting "wind!" when he uses the Aero spells, since Aero didn't exist in KH2. The difference between Sora's VA circa KH2 and his VA circa KH1 is hilariously obvious.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
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    Enlong wrote: »
    Actually, a fair bit of it is reused KH2 assets, for the in-battle voice clips from Sora.

    The one thing that's recycled from KH1 is him shouting "wind!" when he uses the Aero spells, since Aero didn't exist in KH2. The difference between Sora's VA circa KH2 and his VA circa KH1 is hilariously obvious.
    Enlong wrote: »
    Actually, a fair bit of it is reused KH2 assets, for the in-battle voice clips from Sora.

    The one thing that's recycled from KH1 is him shouting "wind!" when he uses the Aero spells, since Aero didn't exist in KH2. The difference between Sora's VA circa KH2 and his VA circa KH1 is hilariously obvious.

    Especially since those were only a few years apart, but the difference is significant, yeah

    Which, I haven't heard any of the English VA for 3, but....yeah, it's been awhile for him to be playing a character that's, what, thirteen years old?

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    Haley Joel Osment did an AMA a year or two ago and of course someone asked about KH

    Specifically, if he has any idea what's going on in it when he records for it

    To which he said "oh absolutely not, but those guys are great so I trust they know what they're doing and say the nonsense"

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    Actually, a fair bit of it is reused KH2 assets, for the in-battle voice clips from Sora.

    The one thing that's recycled from KH1 is him shouting "wind!" when he uses the Aero spells, since Aero didn't exist in KH2. The difference between Sora's VA circa KH2 and his VA circa KH1 is hilariously obvious.
    Enlong wrote: »
    Actually, a fair bit of it is reused KH2 assets, for the in-battle voice clips from Sora.

    The one thing that's recycled from KH1 is him shouting "wind!" when he uses the Aero spells, since Aero didn't exist in KH2. The difference between Sora's VA circa KH2 and his VA circa KH1 is hilariously obvious.

    Especially since those were only a few years apart, but the difference is significant, yeah

    Which, I haven't heard any of the English VA for 3, but....yeah, it's been awhile for him to be playing a character that's, what, thirteen years old?

    He voiced Sora in KH3D and the final cutscene of AFP not too long ago, if you're interested in what his Sora voice sounds like at the moment.

    YggiDee wrote: »
    Having teenaged RPG leads is really cool until you stop being a teenager yourself. Do you remember being seventeen? You're a dumbass at seventeen! I wanna be saved by the guy who's twenty-seven. He's at least payed taxes. He knows how to do shit. He can drive.
  • never dienever die Registered User regular
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    Javen wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    Actually, a fair bit of it is reused KH2 assets, for the in-battle voice clips from Sora.

    The one thing that's recycled from KH1 is him shouting "wind!" when he uses the Aero spells, since Aero didn't exist in KH2. The difference between Sora's VA circa KH2 and his VA circa KH1 is hilariously obvious.
    Enlong wrote: »
    Actually, a fair bit of it is reused KH2 assets, for the in-battle voice clips from Sora.

    The one thing that's recycled from KH1 is him shouting "wind!" when he uses the Aero spells, since Aero didn't exist in KH2. The difference between Sora's VA circa KH2 and his VA circa KH1 is hilariously obvious.

    Especially since those were only a few years apart, but the difference is significant, yeah

    Which, I haven't heard any of the English VA for 3, but....yeah, it's been awhile for him to be playing a character that's, what, thirteen years old?

    According to the Kingdom Hearts wiki, Sora was 16 in Dream Drop Distance, so his voice would probably not have changed much between games for that, so 29 year old Osmont should be fine.

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    How have I never noticed that Donald is wearing a Samuel L. Jackson hat in these games

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    Boy I did not recall that the majority of Sora's story in Chain of Memories is "Sora gets a new girlfriend and gets really annoying about it"

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
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    Namine is going to take 2 hours to explain

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    I don't remember a lot of KH2 super well, maybe that does more to justify her because boy KH1 and Chain of Memories revolve a lot around how great and awesome Kairi is and she's just barely a character

    she certainly looks cooler in KH2

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
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    In KH1, Kairi is super important in the sense that she just happens to be one of the princesses of heart. She's not really any more special than the other princesses, she just has two friends who are good with keyblades.

    She becomes a bit more important in CoM and KH2, though through somewhat tangential reasons.

    KH3D is where the series decides, "Oh yeah, we should probably do something with Kairi, huh?"

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    I thought Axel being so beloved was like a teenage "he looks cool and crack jokes" thing and he wouldn't hold up or just seem stupid

    Nah, Axel is super great, he's like the ideal version of the Bad Guy Secret Good Guy Also Possible Still Bad Guy thing

    I'm onto the 358 Days movie and that fucker loves ice cream, goddamn (even though those are very clearly popsicles and this has always bothered me)

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  • NeveronNeveron SwedenRegistered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    I thought Axel being so beloved was like a teenage "he looks cool and crack jokes" thing and he wouldn't hold up or just seem stupid

    Nah, Axel is super great, he's like the ideal version of the Bad Guy Secret Good Guy Also Possible Still Bad Guy thing

    I'm onto the 358 Days movie and that fucker loves ice cream, goddamn (even though those are very clearly popsicles and this has always bothered me)
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    ...Yeah, I think I see why they didn't call it a popsicle.

    (This is also a few languages where popsicles are considered ice cream, but I don't know if that applies to Japanese and there was a weird context-free translation error there.)

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
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    Popsicles are a brand name

    Like Pop-Tarts or Jell-O, how nobody says toaster pastries or gelatin

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
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    It's a bit different, because by all accounts the popsicle brand was literally invented by the guy who first created, or at least commercialized popsicles, whereas pastries and gelatin existed before pop-tarts and jell-o. They're not called that everywhere because the brand doesn't exist everywhere.

  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Brings a Magic Infused Gun to a Swordfight. Registered User regular
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    I want to hear the new KH Utada song already. I've gotten tired of remixes of the same two songs.

    Also, people who only played 1 & 2 are going to be so fucking lost when 3 comes out lol. At the very least Birth By Sleep is gonna be super important, with a little Dream Drop Distance as well.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
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    I want to hear the new KH Utada song already. I've gotten tired of remixes of the same two songs.

    Also, people who only played 1 & 2 are going to be so fucking lost when 3 comes out lol. At the very least Birth By Sleep is gonna be super important, with a little Dream Drop Distance as well.

    You say this like I wasn't lost during 2 by not playing Chain of Memories

    Kingdom Hearts deals in nonsense, it's fine

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    Finished the 358/2 Days movie

    I'm sure it's real bad as a game, cause how could a Kingdom Hearts game on the regular DS be anything else, but man I found that story surprisingly effective

    There's a core tragedy there that really works, and it's nice having one of these games that's not all about huge epic stakes and tells a smaller story (where ultimately the world is at stake but you know what I mean), but for the most part it's about the friendship between three people and how it builds and then fractures
    and the last day being finally seeing that KH1 secret ending in full context as it happened was super rad?

    I can't decide if I should start KH2 next (which I have not played in at least 7 or 8 years) or Birth By Sleep (which I've never played and for the most part still know nothing about)

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  • turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Yeah, 358/2's story is really good.

    The gameplay wasn't terrible necessarily, but it wasn't great either and there was SO MUCH PADDING.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
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    Yeah the gameplay is actually one of the best parts; it actually controls mostly like a regular Kingdom Hearts game. It's just that there's so much filler between relevant story beats. I even thought the movie was way too long, they could have shortened it up a lot and still kept in everything even slightly important.

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    Here's the thing that'll decide the order for me

    is the console version of Birth By Sleep an improvement on KH2, gameplay-wise? I kinda wanna just keep moving forward in the gameplay getting better and it could really go either way, since it was a PSP game, but it was also made like 5 years later

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  • AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
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    The BBS gameplay is better than KH2's imo

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