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You're Gonna Shake Your Butt, That's a Guarantee [Kesha]

ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
In 2005, an 18 year old woman named Kesha Rose Sebert moved to LA with her mother, celebrated country music writer Pebe Sebert (best known for several songs made famous by Dolly Parton), from their hometown of Nashville to pursue a music career for Kesha. With her she brought a demo tape containing two very different styles of music. One was a gorgeously penned and sung country ballad written by Kesha in the style of old time Nashville country, the other was described by Billboard as a: "“gobsmackingly awful trip-hop track... at one point toward the end, Ke$ha runs out of lyrics and starts rapping, for a full minute or so: ‘I’m a white girl/From the ’Ville/Nashville, bitch.’”

Kesha was quickly signed by famed producer Dr. Luke (Previously known for his work with Avril Lavigne, Katy Perry, and Carrie Underwood) on Kemosabe Entertainment, a subsidiary of Sony Records. Soon after her first single, Tik Tok, was released and cemented her reputation as the crude party girl of pop, one that she embraces to this day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP6XpLQM2Cs

During her time with Dr. Luke Kesha released two albums, Animal and Warrior, both with multiple hits on each. During this era her songs were heavily rap/sing-talk based and nearly always revolved around dance jams and partying. That's not to say that she didn't put out great work: the melody and beatcrafting was always extremely catchy, and songs like Gold Trans Am showed that Kesha was deft at wordplay, innuendo, and had a good sense of humor about herself and reputation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2-sU-Hbda8

There were always signs that Kesha had more to give than was apparent by listening to her singles. During this period Kesha wrote several songs for other acts, like Pink Champagne for Ariana Grande, Boy Like You for Charlee, and Time Of Our Lives for Miley Cyrus, considered some of those artists best work. In addition, attendees to her concerts often noted Kesha had great vocal range that was not displayed on her albums. Dr. Luke's production continued to push her rapping/party girl aspect and downplayed songs where she stretched her legs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tjl-0JNblo

In 2013, Kesha checked into rehab after struggles with weight loss. In 2014, she began a lawsuit against Dr. Luke alleging mental and physical abuse, including intense body shaming which she backed with emails in which Dr. Luke called her a "fat fucking refrigerator". During the lawsuit, Kesha was unable to release new music, as she was still beholden to her contract with sony, and was not allowed to tour using her current music as she did not possess the rights to do so. She countered by performing a tour called "Kesha & The Creepies: Fuck The World Tour", where she performed Rockabilly and Metal versions of her own songs covered by fair use as parody/cover versions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFrHPOa0RLU

Kesha eventually dropped the suit to be allowed to continue to release new music. Cooincidentally, Dr. Luke was removed by sony as both a producer and CEO of Kemosabe Entertainment and is no longer with the company, or currently working with any artists.

Yesterday, August 11th, Kesha released her first studio album in 5 years, Rainbow. The album is a fairly drastic change of direction. Like Adelle's '21', nearly half or more of the album is Kesha grappling with what happened to her under Dr. Luke, including songs like Praying, Rainbow, and Learn to Let it Go in which she alternates between intense anger and the decision to move on with her life and continue her career.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Dur3uXXCQ
Praying wrote:
I'm proud of who I am
No more monsters, I can breathe again
And you said that I was done
Well, you were wrong and now the best is yet to come

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHIcNNI6Sc
Boys and girls, everybody talks about you
Loves and hates, they don't really know about you
I've decided all the haters everywhere can suck my dick

There are a lot of reasons I'm making this thread. Partly its because I think the story of Kesha persevering and choosing to move on and continue to be herself while still evolving is intensely inspirational.

But also, I'm not sure I've ever experienced a flip on my opinion of an artist as quickly as i did kesha today.

I've always loved her stuff, it's silly and fun and great to dance to. But on Rainbow, she shows vocal talent I had no idea she had (As displayed in Praying) which is great.

But what got me more than anything is her range and how well she executes on every single thing she tries. In the same album she has a parody of country western love songs about being a stalker (baby I love you so much dont make me kill you), a weird twee ballad about introducing her new boyfriend Godzilla to her mom, an absolutely monster rock jam with Eagles Of Death Metal, and a duet with her childhood hero, Dolly Parton. And every single one of them absolutely lands.

My admittedly Irony-Based love of her work has switched to pretty much pure admiration of both her perseverance and her work.

But also because I can't stop shaking my ass to these bomb jams

So after this extremely long winded post, I ask you, SE ++

Will you Dance Like A Motherfucker with me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c0BjfIilgM

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  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod

    Will you Dance Like A Motherfucker with me?

    Yes. Yes I will.

    I've always been a big Kesha fan. I first started listening to her in college, and she quickly overtook the other major pop dance stuff for my parties, at very least. She was fun in a way that a lot of other artists weren't, and she had a little bit more edge to her, which I appreciated. So I kept up with her, listened to stuff behind the singles, and so on. Both the weirder stuff that started shining through on later albums, like that time that she did a song with Iggy Pop, in things that make perfect sense and also were totally surprising at the time

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE6rKgoS2lg

    Or that time that she did an absolutely heart wrenching cover of Don't Think Twice, It's Alright

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNCEV7ZSNFo

    Her legal troubles are something I've followed closely, and it's a damned shame that things didn't work out for her there.

    But I'm also so glad to have her back in my life releasing new music. Her new album is great, I've been loving it. I've seen a lot of people who dismissed her previously reacting to it with, well, the sort of reactions she deserves, and I'm really hoping it does well for her and lets her come back into the spotlight a bit.

    I'm going to go see her in concert in a couple of months and I'm super pumped.

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    @Straightzi I'm seeing her in Charlotte and I'm insanely psyched

    I know that I got real close to being weepy during the album listen so I'm slightly terrified I will be judged harshly by my friends if I start crying at a Kesha concert

    Hopefully I also get to dance my ass off

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  • PsykomaPsykoma Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    In 2013, Kesha checked into rehab after struggles with weight loss. In 2014, she began a lawsuit against Dr. Luke alleging mental and physical abuse, including intense body shaming which she backed with emails in which Dr. Luke called her a "fat fucking refrigerator". During the lawsuit, Kesha was unable to release new music, as she was still beholden to her contract with sony, and was not allowed to tour using her current music as she did not possess the rights to do so.

    A good OP, but I feel it's important to note it wasn't just alleged mental and physical abuse, the original suit also alleged sexual assault, date rape, and sexual harassment, not just limited to severe body shaming.
    Also that the judge who threw out her claims is married to a partner at a legal firm under contract with Sony -_-

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Psykoma wrote: »
    In 2013, Kesha checked into rehab after struggles with weight loss. In 2014, she began a lawsuit against Dr. Luke alleging mental and physical abuse, including intense body shaming which she backed with emails in which Dr. Luke called her a "fat fucking refrigerator". During the lawsuit, Kesha was unable to release new music, as she was still beholden to her contract with sony, and was not allowed to tour using her current music as she did not possess the rights to do so.

    A good OP, but I feel it's important to note it wasn't just alleged mental and physical abuse, the original suit also alleged sexual assault, date rape, and sexual harassment, not just limited to severe body shaming.
    Also that the judge who threw out her claims is married to a partner at a legal firm under contract with Sony -_-

    By physical abuse I did mean sexual, but I should have been clearer

    And yes, she got fucked by the legal system

    I'm hopeful the court of public opinion makes sure Dr luke never works again

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    The tiny silver lining of the situation is Kesha has gotten to spread her wings as an artist

    That can never make up for what happened but if she can use her art to bury him in public opinion there is a certain poetic justice to that

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  • bobAkirafettbobAkirafett Registered User regular
    I feel like her Deconstructed EP needs to be in here somewhere to show her vocal range as well.

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I feel like her Deconstructed EP needs to be in here somewhere to show her vocal range as well.

    I actually haven't heard it. What are the stand-outs?

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The version of Die Young on Deconstructed is incredible.

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    I listened to Rainbow on Friday. I still need some time to absorb it and listen to it a few more times, but I dug it

    Warrior is one of my favorite albums ever

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I like warrior a ton

    I feel like this grew on me really really fast though

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  • HyperBalladHyperBallad A ball of vivid colour and barely contained emotions Sydney. Lost in time and space.Registered User regular
    Listened to this album today on Spotify at work.

    This is an album literally dripping in bong water. And I mean that in a good way. Some serious pot-smokin' went down for this album and it is all the better for it. I really like the psychedelic country feel throughout it, and I love the tracks with Eagles of Death Metal. I should look into them more I think.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    hello yes, this album is fucking great

  • HandgimpHandgimp R+L=J Family PhotoRegistered User regular
    Kesha's music helped me get through rehab without going crazy; I'm happy she's able to publish again.

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular


    Kesha went on NPR to discuss every song on the album with Robert Segul, its a good interview!

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    Just got through my first listen of Rainbow. There seriously isn't a single weak track on the entire thing - it's insanely good. I'm going to be forcing the family to listen to it on our roadtrip tomorrow at least once.

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Me to my wife last night: "Dinner's ready! Plus I listened to the Kesha album the whole time I was making it, so you can really taste the feminism."

  • DrCongoDrCongo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Wow. This... this is scary good.

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    holy shit this album.

    I'm on my second listen of the day and this whole thing feels like a victory lap by someone who went through years of awful bullshit, and came out stronger and more determined than ever

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I'm really glad people are enjoying it this much

    Again, I made this because even as a fan I was fucking blown away by the thing

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    I love Let 'Em Talk to death

    I've listened to it countless times already

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  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Let 'Em Talk and Hunt You Down are probably my favorites right now. Maybe Hymn as well.

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    aaand I just bought it so I could keep listening on my way home

    I don't have a favourite track yet, but the part where she cracks up laughing mid-verse in the middle of Woman, and that's the take they decided to use for the album? Absolutely delightful.

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    Boogie Feet is easily my favorite

    It is wonderfully goofy and insane and catchy and also I'm pretty sure she's doing a Fred Schnieder impression at least a little bit?

    I also love Let 'em Talk and Boots

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  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Yeah that definitely might be a Fred Schneider impression

    Gosh, I love Fred Schneider impressions

  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Y'all ever play Hey, Fred Schneider?

    It's a weird theatre game vocal warmup sort of thing, where you chant in like, this rhythmic pattern (there's clapping and stuff, it's hard to explain), "Hey Fred Schneider, what are you doing?" and the person asked has to come up with some weirdo bullshit in their best Fred Schneider voice, and then they get to do it and target it at someone else. It's a really dumb game but I love it to death.

    Sometimes we would combine it with the other classic improv What Are You Doing, so the next person had to mime whatever activity the previous Fred Schneider had said until they were asked what they were doing.

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Y'all ever play Hey, Fred Schneider?

    It's a weird theatre game vocal warmup sort of thing, where you chant in like, this rhythmic pattern (there's clapping and stuff, it's hard to explain), "Hey Fred Schneider, what are you doing?" and the person asked has to come up with some weirdo bullshit in their best Fred Schneider voice, and then they get to do it and target it at someone else. It's a really dumb game but I love it to death.

    Sometimes we would combine it with the other classic improv What Are You Doing, so the next person had to mime whatever activity the previous Fred Schneider had said until they were asked what they were doing.

    No but this sounds like a very very good drinking game

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  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Y'all ever play Hey, Fred Schneider?

    It's a weird theatre game vocal warmup sort of thing, where you chant in like, this rhythmic pattern (there's clapping and stuff, it's hard to explain), "Hey Fred Schneider, what are you doing?" and the person asked has to come up with some weirdo bullshit in their best Fred Schneider voice, and then they get to do it and target it at someone else. It's a really dumb game but I love it to death.

    Sometimes we would combine it with the other classic improv What Are You Doing, so the next person had to mime whatever activity the previous Fred Schneider had said until they were asked what they were doing.

    No but this sounds like a very very good drinking game

    Pretty much all theatre games are.

  • QuetziQuetzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Oh here's a good video that explains this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylye9JiqnuQ

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    After further consideration, Woman is my current favourite track. It's a goddamn jam, she's clearly having a ton of fun making it, and I am a sucker for horns, especially with a hook like that.

  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    Boogie Feet is my current favorite, and the thing is there are a bunch of different points that remind me of other songs I like (though I can't place all the stuff IT reminds me of)

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    Goddamn this is a great album.

    So far I think Hymn is my fave, but I've only been able to listen through the whole list twice.

  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Boogie Feet is my current favorite, and the thing is there are a bunch of different points that remind me of other songs I like (though I can't place all the stuff IT reminds me of)

    I love the songs where you can very clearly tell she's having a ton of fun

    The end of Boogie Feet has a moment like that, where you hear her bandmates cracking up in the background

    And they aren't as fun as Let 'Em Talk or Boogie Feet (for obvious reasons), but Rainbow and Praying are both spectacular

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    Thanks for this OP, McChilla

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Hymn is my favourite Lorde song of the past few years

  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    While not on the same level as some of the other ones, I really enjoy Godzilla as a cute and fun little song; it reminds me of "Her Majesty" on Abbey Road.

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Mortal Sky wrote: »
    Thanks for this OP, McChilla

    I was in a very deep kesha hole and didn't have anyone to talk about it with locally so I had to get it out somehow

    You're welcome!

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  • stopgapstopgap Registered User regular
    I love Kesha as an artist and she has been through so much, I'm glad she is recording again

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  • tzeentchlingtzeentchling Doctor of Rocks OaklandRegistered User regular
    I really, really like at least half the songs on this album, and there isn't a song I don't enjoy listening to. That hasn't happened in an album for me since Janelle Monae's The Archandroid came out. I certainly wasn't expecting it out of Kesha!

    Woman is my current favorite, but I really like Learn To Let Go, Boogie Feet and Hymn. Also Let 'Em Talk, because the echo from the Eagles of Death metal singer is wonderful. Praying and Learn To Let Go together is a 1-2 wallop of feelings.

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